[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread

[okaynow]

Another point I want to stress (which I've mentioned before): I'm getting anxious with the lack of a logo. The logos found in the OP here and on the NEM subreddit are different and below par (In my opinion; absolutely no offence to the creators. I couldn't do better!). It's hurting NEM's image. Either you or Utopian need to make a decision soon! NEM is now getting too large to have no brand associated with it.

Logo will be decided by the community !
I've also stressed that point a few times but I guess UP wants to wait a little to make sure all proposals make their way here

There is an ongoing Logo and currency symbol discussion over here https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=660.
The idea is that we don't need to spam this thread over every individual issue, so please everyone,
visit the thread and take part at the discussion, let the designers know what you think.

There will be a vote set up as we get closer to the release, but for now it is a brainstorming thingie.

PS:
The one you see posted on the announcement and in this thread was one that was quickly picked as the proposal was forming.
The one at reddit is one of the later candidates. Both are temporary, and it can be found in the thread history(though i'm too lazy to do it).

TY

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[TauMuon]

Another point I want to stress (which I've mentioned before): I'm getting anxious with the lack of a logo. The logos found in the OP here and on the NEM subreddit are different and below par (In my opinion; absolutely no offence to the creators. I couldn't do better!). It's hurting NEM's image. Either you or Utopian need to make a decision soon! NEM is now getting too large to have no brand associated with it.

Logo will be decided by the community !
I've also stressed that point a few times but I guess UP wants to wait a little to make sure all proposals make their way here

There is an ongoing Logo and currency symbol discussion over here https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=660.
The idea is that we don't need to spam this thread over every individual issue, so please everyone,
visit the thread and take part at the discussion, let the designers know what you think.

There will be a vote set up as we get closer to the release, but for now it is a brainstorming thingie.

PS:
The one you see posted on the announcement and in this thread was one that was quickly picked as the proposal was forming.
The one at reddit is one of the later candidates. Both are temporary, and it can be found in the thread history(though i'm too lazy to do it).

TY

That is exactly the problem, we're in need of a logo now, not in a few months time!

[TauMuon]

I like to have a site similar to localbitcoin for NEM as early as possible so I am looking for people doing that.
  

I have registered "localcryptoco.in" website and ready to initiate it with NEM coin:

http://localcryptoco.in/

If developers help, we can pipe the nem interface with it fast.

Just let me know.

Quoting this for visibility. Nice one Sepehr!

[Malna01]

Hi all,

We all talk about NEM and a New Economy Movement. Here, I want to share a concrete example about what I think NEM can really help to build a better world:

http://editi[Suspicious link removed]/2014/02/13/world/africa/cocoa-nomics-from-bean-to-bar/index.html?hpt=hp_c4

Chocolate production s a business of billions of dollars. Most of the world’s cocoa comes from West Africa, with more than a third coming from the Ivory Coast alone. Cocoa is grown mainly on small, family-owned plantations by farmers living in poverty. According to the publication, only 3% of the total price of a chocolate bar goes to the producers. If we can make NEM a powerful coin, those producers will be able to sell directly their products, without the necessity to use intermediates that speculate with the price. Even more, if we hink even beyond the cryptocurrency itself; those producers can start to manufacture their own chocolate, increasing the value and selling directly to retailers or even better, to consumers; using all the features of NEM coin.

This is why I am here
 

[SZZT]

Does anyone else find the NEM vs Nxt thing really interesting?  It's like bananas in pyjamas

trolling edited

What will happen with him right now?
Seriously pointless accusations - hope to mankind still possible??
Participating in a "no envy" movement does not go well with these lines here

Seriously, stop with the negativity everyone..

First off, don;t feed the troll. He is our puppet. Get over it. And stop asking for ones' head, and not ruin your image at the same time.
Do you realise how it sounds? Think, before you type.

Second, everyone please:
Stop dividing yourselves and the community between false dilemmas. No coin is an enemy of an other.

Stating that *any* coin is an adversary to *any* other coin has the same sense as stating that one hammer is better than another hammer.
Get your heads together and accept a universal truth:

Tools do not have a character. It is the user that defines the tool.
Your coins are tools, and represent your wealth. Learn how to use the tool, before you lose your wealth.

That is exactly the problem, we're in need of a logo now, not in a few months time!

There is no problem. What we are in need of, is a decent development. On the software side.
When the devs will be ready, the logo will be too.
We do not need to hurry on anything. Everything has to follow the devs, so lets just keep our pants up.
And we surely do not want to sell something we don;t even have now, do we?

I'm off for now. Be nice.

[Thingamajig]

That stake will not be the only unclaimed stake.

There weill be a public auditing where big multi-accers get weedet out which means there will be stakes from those people.
After that, there will be hate and anger and people screaming unfair, scam and what not so maybe some will voluntarily ask for a refund which again would leave stakes unclaimed.

UP still wants to have 3k stakeholders so if we're way below that there may be a second round in which the rules would be tightened severly.

I guess we'll have to wait and see...

I really welcome this, although i do have one concern:

I introduced a Romanian friend to NXT who purchased (some) of my own stake (transferred to his own wallet) who later participated into NEM after i had got on board (both of our stakes have been authenticated)

On the surface, this would look like a sockpuppet account but it's really quite the contrary in reality; he's a real individual, of which i know if needed, could vouch for me here, or, if at UP's request, in other ways if necessary.

The concern i have is how do we ensure in circumstances like above, arn't wrongly accused?

Seriously, stop with the negativity everyone..

First off, don;t feed the troll. He is our puppet. Get over it. And stop asking for ones' head, and not ruin your image at the same time.
Do you realise how it sounds? Think, before you type.

Second, everyone please:
Stop dividing yourselves and the community between false dilemmas. No coin is an enemy of an other.

Stating that *any* coin is an adversary to *any* other coin has the same sense as stating that one hammer is better than another hammer.
Get your heads together and accept a universal truth:

There is no problem. What we are in need of, is a decent development. On the software side.
When the devs will be ready, the logo will be too.
We do not need to hurry on anything. Everything has to follow the devs, so lets just keep our pants up.
And we surely do not want to sell something we don;t even have now, do we?

I'm off for now. Be nice.

Nailed it.

[gramufibus]

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[venus,wu]

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[Sergey_A]

Hi all,

We all talk about NEM and a New Economy Movement. Here, I want to share a concrete example about what I think NEM can really help to build a better world:

http://editi[Suspicious link removed]/2014/02/13/world/africa/cocoa-nomics-from-bean-to-bar/index.html?hpt=hp_c4

Chocolate production s a business of billions of dollars. Most of the world’s cocoa comes from West Africa, with more than a third coming from the Ivory Coast alone. Cocoa is grown mainly on small, family-owned plantations by farmers living in poverty. According to the publication, only 3% of the total price of a chocolate bar goes to the producers. If we can make NEM a powerful coin, those producers will be able to sell directly their products, without the necessity to use intermediates that speculate with the price. Even more, if we hink even beyond the cryptocurrency itself; those producers can start to manufacture their own chocolate, increasing the value and selling directly to retailers or even better, to consumers; using all the features of NEM coin.

This is why I am here
 

What is the link? Can you explain it more detailed?

[sunnieku]

Hi utopianfuture
   I sent 550 nxt on page 41 in part 2 and my tid is 13522593849883067460.But  in the NEM stakeholder population my name on line 749 in thread 2 without group number, I just wondering is that ok without group number.

[lovekfc]

to be honest, I am a bit surprised more stakeholders are not excited as I am and choose to remain silent .  With 3000 members I thought this place with be buzzing. UPs idea of selecting only active contributors for the next round is really important.  We need some new blood .

I was thinking the same, this place should be flooded with more people.

But on the bright side it is more active than most new coins, and I imagine there will be a huge up increase when Nem is nearing completion.

if we use the number of post of each id in this thread to compute the GINI coeffiecient, the current GINI coefficient is 0.677, while the dogecoin thread is 0.74, the nxt thread is 0.85.
the less the coeffiecient, the more activated of each id.

I think a lot of people will activate here when we get the coin is launched !

absolutely correct! 

[sunnieku]

Hi utopianfuture
   I sent 550 nxt on page 41 in part 2 and my tid is 13522593849883067460.But  in the NEM stakeholder population my name on line 749 in thread 2 without group number, I just wondering is that ok without group number.

On the left side there is no group number but on the right side i found my name at the end of group 2, thanks for your time

[j23a]

Someone is playing loud music outside, for hours. It's so annoying. I would so not have told that person about Nem back when they could have bought a stake. The music is so annoying.

[tlincoln]

to be honest, I am a bit surprised more stakeholders are not excited as I am and choose to remain silent .  With 3000 members I thought this place with be buzzing. UPs idea of selecting only active contributors for the next round is really important.  We need some new blood .

I was thinking the same, this place should be flooded with more people.

But on the bright side it is more active than most new coins, and I imagine there will be a huge up increase when Nem is nearing completion.

if we use the number of post of each id in this thread to compute the GINI coeffiecient, the current GINI coefficient is 0.677, while the dogecoin thread is 0.74, the nxt thread is 0.85.
the less the coeffiecient, the more activated of each id.

I think a lot of people will activate here when we get the coin is launched !

absolutely correct! 

Yes. Waiting patiently while NEM starts to coalesce.

[crackerhead]

Looking at all the threads for uninspired altcoins, it's clear that NEM is really unique. Not sure how we got such a great community of people together, but somehow UtopianFuture pulled it off.

Remember guys, no envy.

Also, should someone try to e-mail these guys and ask for photos to use on ournem.com?
https://vimeo.com/85843499

There are some sweet photos online at: http://raskalov-vit.livejournal.com/134512.html
I'm thinking something like this with the crane photoshopped out: http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9756/65616424.8c/0_a0bb3_4aa09adb_XXL.jpg

It appears they are fluent in Russian? I would ask them for permission, but if someone that speaks Russian well could get in touch with them, that would be awesome.

[Sergey_A]

Hi utopianfuture
   I sent 550 nxt on page 41 in part 2 and my tid is 13522593849883067460.But  in the NEM stakeholder population my name on line 749 in thread 2 without group number, I just wondering is that ok without group number.

On the left side there is no group number but on the right side i found my name at the end of group 2, thanks for your time

I suppose you'd better move your topic to NEM stake complaints thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450200.0

[stoneone]

ournem.com is now online!

good job!

[googie4]

ournem.com looks pretty good. Will not bookmark, will memorize.

[patmast3r]

I really welcome this, although i do have one concern:

I introduced a Romanian friend to NXT who purchased (some) of my own stake (transferred to his own wallet) who later participated into NEM after i had got on board (both of our stakes have been authenticated)

On the surface, this would look like a sockpuppet account but it's really quite the contrary in reality; he's a real individual, of which i know if needed, could vouch for me here, or, if at UP's request, in other ways if necessary.

The concern i have is how do we ensure in circumstances like above, arn't wrongly accused?

First of all only people with a lot of stakes are being targeted here. We're talking > 10 ro so.
Secondly timing of posts and transactions, wording of posts, everything is taken into account when identifying sockpuppets. I don't think we're goign to hit too many false positives.
Also it's a public auditing. Anyone that feels misstreated can come forward and say so.