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1461  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ▐[ANN] [TRUMP] TrumpCoin - The Currency Dedicated to Making America Great Again▌ on: December 08, 2016, 01:23:03 AM
Let's see if it keeps on changing tomorrow!  Today they added another 3K votes only for Hillary..  One more day approx and they can call a recount in Pennsylvania




same as yesterday now






   POLITICAL NEWS   


REVEALED: Michigan Recount Uncovers Serious Voter Fraud in Detroit- VOTES COUNTED UP TO 6 TIMES

Jim Hoft Dec 7th, 2016 9:23 am Leave a Comment

More bad news for Democrats—
Green Party candidate Jill Stein’s Michigan recount unintentionally exposed this major voting fraud scandal.
In Detroit, one of the chief ways they engage in voter fraud is to count the same ballot MULTIPLE times. This is just ONE way. They also do some shady stuff with absentee ballots etc.

Once they started the Michigan recount in earnest, and knowing he would be exposed, the Detroit City Clerk Daniel Baxter all of a sudden started claiming that the optical scanners which read the paper ballots did not work the day of the election. Baxter blamed the discrepancies on decade-old voting machines. That is his cover story. Nothing like this was mentioned until he realized their voting fraud scheme would be detected.

Baxter’s claim is that, when trying to push the ballots through the readers, the ballots would be stuck and they’d have to push them through again thus ‘ACCIDENTALLY’ resulting in a double count. He says the poll workers sometimes ‘FORGET’ to adjust the machine count and instead let the ballot count twice.

Of course, that’s COMPLETELY BULLSH*T.

** Over One-Third of Detroit Precincts Will Not Be Recounted Due to Ballot Discrepancies

And, it’s much worse than that.
In one Detroit Precinct, a recount team was given a box of ballots with an unbroken seal where everything appeared proper and in place. The tag on the box said there were 306 ballots. The book said 306, and the ticket said 306, so that means there should be 306 paper ballots on the box. When they pulled out the ballots, there were exactly FIFTY paper ballots in a locked sealed box that again was supposed to have 306. The official canvasser approved count for this precinct was 306. For FIFTY ballots.

It looks like Detroit counts each vote more than SIX TIMES! No wonder they get such high turnout rates!

Ken Crider, who helped with the recount in Cobo Hall in Detroit, posted this on Facebook last night. Ken said a ballot box in Detroit had been tampered with — and that each vote was counted SIX TIMES!

Ken Crider
20 hrs · Livonia, MI ·

MUST READ! Penny Crider and I just got back from helping watch the recount at Cobo Hall in Detroit. On Nov. 8th (election day) the election officials at 8:00 pm shut down the polls. They then reconciled the differences from the machine count and the voter count on the computer. At this point a Metal tag/seal with a serial number is put on the box and the box was taken away.
Penny’s precinct, Detroit Precinct #152 had an unbroken seal and everything looked proper. The tag on the box said 306 and the book said 306 and the ticket said 306, so there should be 306 paper ballots on the box, right. Well when they pulled out the ballots the stack seemed short and when they finished separating the two page ballot to count the Presidential page only guess how many ballots were in the box? 304 no, 299 nope, 200 nada, how about 100 wrong again. There were only exactly 50 paper ballots in a locked sealed box that again was supposed to have 306. HMMMM.
Oh I forgot to add, since there was a discrepancy in the two numbers the original count stands
One more thing my precinct (sorry I forgot the number), had 525 votes on the book, tag and ticket and we counted 525 ballots the election official was praising the Lord “Hallelujah we have a countable precinct” Jill Stein had three (3) votes.

...not to sound like a broken record..but looks like Trump was right again!  The vote was rigged!





Please make a 2 lines  summary  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
1462  Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / Re: [ANN][PTC] PesetaCoin | España | Bittrex - Cryptopia - SouthXchange on: December 08, 2016, 01:18:13 AM
mi volumen es real, aclarando el tema...
pero la verdad que da x el culo el puto bittrex

exchanges. pais. volumen. pares de monedas(btc-usd/btc-adc...)

cryptopia          New-Zealand                           99.81 BTC       2060    
shapeshift          Switzerland                         792.68 BTC       861       
novaexchange      Sweden                                   22.15 BTC       745    
yobit                  Unknown                              1,243.11 BTC            743    
c-cex                  Russia                                 351.82 BTC            335    
tradesatoshi          United-Kingdom                     4.67 BTC       207    
bittrex                  United-States                      1,385.17 BTC        207    
bitsquare          World                                     3.60 BTC            197    
megacrypton        United-Kingdom                     0.03 BTC            192       
coinexchange          Unknown                                     1.67 BTC       178    
bter                          China                                 690.52 BTC        176    
bleutrade          Brazil                                     6.55 BTC        156    
vircurex                  China                                     0.02 BTC        133    
poloniex                  United-States                    29,675.81 BTC        118    
livecoin                  United-Kingdom              1,474.11 BTC             90    

si, claro, al decir totalmente lógico me refería a tener los avisos de deliste continuamete, no al volumen falso.
hablando en plata, bittrex da x culo.

de la lista que has puesto, los mas interesantes parecen bitsquare, livecoin, shapeshift(q realmente no tiene mercado no?) y ccex
1463  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE]New ERA - VOIP WALLET -100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon on: December 07, 2016, 02:44:08 PM
26/11/16   0,0019
27/11/16   0,0189
28/11/16   0,0008
29/11/16   0,1063
30/11/16   0,0016
01/12/16   0
02/12/16   0
03/12/16   0,9641
04/12/16   0,185
05/12/16   0,0926
06/12/16   1,1451
07/12/16   0,5073
08/12/16   
09/12/16   
   3,0236


we need to arrive to 7btc to keep listed in bs bittrex

1464  Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / Re: [ANN][PTC] PesetaCoin | España | Bittrex - Cryptopia - SouthXchange on: December 07, 2016, 02:42:53 PM
El escaparate es bueno, pero tener cartel de liquidaciones todo el rato...  Cheesy
Y pagando una fortuna por estar en el escaparate...
Ademas los demas exchanges, cada vez estan ganando mas volumen, y bittrex no crece
1465  Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / Re: [ANN][PTC] PesetaCoin | España | Bittrex - Cryptopia - SouthXchange on: December 07, 2016, 02:40:41 PM
Oye que no es por molestar, pero viendo que en bittrex no la toca nadie con un palo, realmente os merece la pena estar haciendo volumen falso =?

digo que pagar la fee de 7 bitcoins por estar en un escaparate que nadie mira ,,,, y que encima escribe periodicamente (esta moneda no la toca nadie la vamos a sacar de aqui que no queremos basura) o algo asi no recuerdo las palabras exactas estan en ingles  Grin ... pues no le veo sentido.

quizas desde craptopia u otra que no cobre podiais destinar esas fees a otros gastos que parece que necesita la moneda.

totalmente lógico. Ya ha llegado un punto que no merece la pena.

La próxima vez que le pongan el aviso, será el último
1466  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLG] Sterlingcoin v1.5.1.1 | United Kindom | Bittrex Bleutrade Cryptopia on: December 07, 2016, 02:56:26 AM
I understand that watching the price go down doesnt look good to you, but you have to understand that you have more amount of it.

Anyway, If you guys (in general, cos I dont see anyone posting) dont understand or like it, it's ok.
Scarcity will make SLG too expensive for the new comers at some not so far point.
But, well, until it's not happening, it's not still a problem

we should just move on to the next topic.
1467  Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / Re: [ANN][PTC] PesetaCoin | España | Bittrex - Cryptopia - SouthXchange on: December 07, 2016, 02:38:58 AM
3.65/7 aprox
hoy toca meterle caña
1468  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TES] ϟ The Tesla ϟ Decentralize the Energy System ϟ Bittrex - Cryptopia on: December 07, 2016, 02:35:41 AM
How long until I can purchase the new Tesla and drive it away from the dealership and pay in TES?
Any ETA on that?


As you can imagine we all have that in mind, but giving an ETA on that would be absurd.

I guess they will be accepting BTC first, just for a matter of user base. After that, very soon.


Is there a fund that's been set aside in case we need to bribe Elon to take it, say 10% of the total coin supply. You see, that would be perfect but if you think he's going to take it just based off the name your dreaming in fancyland because that aint never going to happen.

Never say never, although realistically we will need something. There are several options, one is to offer Tesla Motors certain amount of Tes from current total, but that is something majority of holders would have to agree on and also participate in the funding (giving away certain percentage to assure constant and even possible exponential price climb). But first, we have to raise the value of TES to a certain level. There are some other options that would allow step by step adoption and provide great initiatives.

Not saying that would ever happen, but there is even an option of some sort of fork to bring TES to the next level in the future. There seems to be a trend of forks currently (some succesfull and justified some not) and if progress would require such changes, we are probably willing to discuss this with the community, if it would be requested.

Btw, besides asking good questions, what can you offer to Tesla community (skills and funding).
This goes to all holders of TES. Are you willing to help and how?

We are still waiting for someone to compile wallet for RP3 for current bounty of 65k TES.

Upgraded wallets are coming, also compile for iOS and Linux (Valkir needs to make final review of the code and wallets will be available for download).
Someone wrote he will be willing to donate for Android wallet, after Win/iOS and Linux wallets will be sorted.
The team is doing it's job, I hope the community will also.

We will need additional funds to speed up further development and we would welcome skilled individuals who are willing to donate some time to help TES in it's progress.


I think we should do a coin swap. TES for TESLA. How many TES are available now, we take that number, double it and save half for the Elon pitch a few years down the line. And user the other half for the swap. Im even willing to help out for the swap and anything else i can assist with because I think its a great coin but it could be greater with the right Elon backing.

If you want to bribe Elon, why dont you buys coins in the market an you save it for that?

Being TeslaMotors is not the main objective of TES.

TeslaMotors will be the most interesting merchant. Nothing else. Read the OP.

And as tiredofscams said, what can you do for TES?

Let's be real. Without Tesla motors this coin probably goes nowhere. I cant afford to be buying TES and trying to convince Elon to take them but I did come up with a great idea and you just blew me off.

Next time you have someone trying to help its wise not to blow them off with a silly reply like "you buy tes and bribe elon yourself"


again, you're not the first one having that idea.
but thanks for your idea.
In fact, if you do any contact in TeslaMotors, it would be awesome
1469  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLG] Sterlingcoin v1.5.1.1 | United Kindom | Bittrex Bleutrade Cryptopia on: December 06, 2016, 07:46:59 PM
Making a split will hurt holders also its only the first dumper that will benefit from it. You cant secure the coin with a split. You still have a kind of inflation when you pay fees for 7BTC trading. And next time they maybe will ask for 10BTC trading. To few holders and PoS means you have to pump and dump your own coin. I could write more but I .....


Nothing are stopping you from making PR for this coin. So start now. With constantly delisting mesages on BIttrex and a unsecure coin. Who will invest in it. And with another 16 miljon coins that can be dumped on investors and make an inflation that can crash this coin to a few satoshi worth. On top of that Cryptsys wallet can come back to life and make huge problems. It can fork SLG.

Your proposal of a split dont solve anything it just worsening the problems and making a huge inflation. What will you call the new coin with more coins NSLG?

You dont understand coins and you dont understand economy. Which coins have you done marketing for and were you succesfull?

lol

dude do you even read what I post?

Because you're always repeting you're FUD without reasoning. 

The first dumper will benefit from it?
lol
such an ignorant... The trade his halted and it restarts in the price stimation. No dumper.


I'm gonna try to explain it to you for the last time.

I'm gonna use the opposite example of the split, the contrasplit.

Why should anyone make a contrasplit? Because they believe there are too many coins.
By reducing the coin supply, you artificially move the price up. So, the value of your holding is the same.

You can reduce the coin supply by 5. And the will increase *5. You will have the same value.

What we are talking about here, is what is the ideal coin supply for real adoption. But you dont seem to understand...

I hope you will understant it, once people came here saying that SLG is too expensive...


I just saw something that I dont like from you. You took a great mans name and put it on a shitcoin. That coin is also in danger od delistning. Your skills are not that good and you should not use Teslas name. I dont think you have skills you just want to get 5 times more coins to dump. Tesla is under 100 sat. And that is what you want to do with SLG.

lol Now I'm really doubting about you intelligence.

So your research says that I took a great mans name and put it on a shitcoin?
Great research asshole, then how you explain this thread, 2 years before I created the new thread?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=778053.0

This is the thread I've created,  with the approval and support of the previous dev who had no more time to dedicate to TES (Teslacoin).
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1529315.0
We are 4 people working to make TES the coin for funding Free Energy and Renewable Energy Projects.
We are funding the development from our pocket.



I see a lot of thing that I dont like from you. Like that you're behaving like a kid who can not make any reasoning.

I thought this was a serious conversation... 


1470  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ▐[ANN] [TRUMP] TrumpCoin - The Currency Dedicated to Making America Great Again▌ on: December 06, 2016, 07:03:05 PM
I still can not believe elections are being rigged in US. wtf?
un-fucking-believable
1471  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TES] ϟ The Tesla ϟ Decentralize the Energy System ϟ Bittrex - Cryptopia on: December 06, 2016, 07:00:27 PM
How long until I can purchase the new Tesla and drive it away from the dealership and pay in TES?
Any ETA on that?


As you can imagine we all have that in mind, but giving an ETA on that would be absurd.

I guess they will be accepting BTC first, just for a matter of user base. After that, very soon.


Is there a fund that's been set aside in case we need to bribe Elon to take it, say 10% of the total coin supply. You see, that would be perfect but if you think he's going to take it just based off the name your dreaming in fancyland because that aint never going to happen.

Never say never, although realistically we will need something. There are several options, one is to offer Tesla Motors certain amount of Tes from current total, but that is something majority of holders would have to agree on and also participate in the funding (giving away certain percentage to assure constant and even possible exponential price climb). But first, we have to raise the value of TES to a certain level. There are some other options that would allow step by step adoption and provide great initiatives.

Not saying that would ever happen, but there is even an option of some sort of fork to bring TES to the next level in the future. There seems to be a trend of forks currently (some succesfull and justified some not) and if progress would require such changes, we are probably willing to discuss this with the community, if it would be requested.

Btw, besides asking good questions, what can you offer to Tesla community (skills and funding).
This goes to all holders of TES. Are you willing to help and how?

We are still waiting for someone to compile wallet for RP3 for current bounty of 65k TES.

Upgraded wallets are coming, also compile for iOS and Linux (Valkir needs to make final review of the code and wallets will be available for download).
Someone wrote he will be willing to donate for Android wallet, after Win/iOS and Linux wallets will be sorted.
The team is doing it's job, I hope the community will also.

We will need additional funds to speed up further development and we would welcome skilled individuals who are willing to donate some time to help TES in it's progress.


I think we should do a coin swap. TES for TESLA. How many TES are available now, we take that number, double it and save half for the Elon pitch a few years down the line. And user the other half for the swap. Im even willing to help out for the swap and anything else i can assist with because I think its a great coin but it could be greater with the right Elon backing.

If you want to bribe Elon, why dont you buys coins in the market an you save it for that?

Being TeslaMotors is not the main objective of TES.

TeslaMotors will be the most interesting merchant. Nothing else. Read the OP.

And as tiredofscams said, what can you do for TES?
1472  Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / Re: [ANN][PTC] PesetaCoin | España | Bittrex - Cryptopia - SouthXchange on: December 06, 2016, 06:56:47 PM
sip, 7 btc en total
1473  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ▐[ANN] [TRUMP] TrumpCoin - The Currency Dedicated to Making America Great Again▌ on: December 06, 2016, 02:51:01 AM
   POLITICAL NEWS   

"Clinton intenta apoderarse de la Casa Blanca por la puerta trasera"
Clinton tries to get into the White House by the back door

https://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/225259-clinton-apoderarse-casa-blanca-puerta-trasera

The spanish version of RusiaToday is reporting about the last movements of Hillary.
I can not found the info in the english version of RT.

Any US media reporting it?
1474  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TES] ϟ The Tesla ϟ Decentralize the Energy System ϟ Bittrex - Cryptopia on: December 06, 2016, 02:32:22 AM
How long until I can purchase the new Tesla and drive it away from the dealership and pay in TES?
Any ETA on that?


As you can imagine we all have that in mind, but giving an ETA on that would be absurd.

I guess they will be accepting BTC first, just for a matter of user base. After that, very soon.
1475  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLG] Sterlingcoin v1.5.1.1 | United Kindom | Bittrex Bleutrade Cryptopia on: December 06, 2016, 02:22:03 AM

I agree with you crysx

This coin was a very good coin. It still legit and working but there is a huge lack of interest. Rw13enlib88  thinks steven can fix everything for nothing. Just the rebase takes a lot of time and effort. I have started companies outside internet and one thing is the most importent to know and that is "A product can be superior but if it has no costumer it will fail".

SLG is old. Its hard to make PR for it. It needs some work. It needs something new and that could be a  new algo and PoW. There are also other ways to go but that is more work and it needs more money.Some ppl here thinks that they can sit on their bag and everything will be good. First of all SLG is a global coin. Coins are not limited by borders. Secondly if a coin has a few ppl holding it then new ppl will hesitate to get into it because they are scared of beeing dumped on. SLG coinsupply is to low.

Steven is a good guy. He have been here alone riding the storm. Dont work against him. Work with him or this coin will be dead.

I dont think Steven can fix everything, but he will do his best.

SLG is old and that is good. Do you prefer to use a 7 year old coin or a recently created alt? Cmmon, dont be naive...

It's hard to make PR fot it? lol
Have you heard about nationalism? Brexit?
BoE creating his own digital currency like SLG but with centralization?
https://www.rt.com/business/352280-england-cb-bitcoins-issue/
Do you understand that right now, we are about 10 million people using digital currencies?
Do you understand that we are about 7.000 million people on earth?

First of all, when you compete against thousands of coins you need to focus on a niche. Maybe you dont understand it, because as it seems you dont have any concept of marketing. If you have launched companies outside internet with a good product and you have failed to attract customers is because you dont know anything about marketing.

Second, do people hesitate buying BTC because there are some rich people holding btc?
Third, you're right coinsupply is low. It should be increased but not for the reasons you mention.
It should be increased to fit the new users and dont have one SLG too expensive in €/$/pound
You should learn about monetary policy...

4th, we all agree, we are not here to work against Steven, we are all here to help Steven and SLG, and for sure I'll make my best on it

You are comparing SLG with bitcoin. That is so out of bounds. Bitcoin was not first. We had another in europe and it was in banks. It failed because of funds. Bitcoin had a lot of problems in the beginning. It was called a scam and other things. A lot of ppl are into bitcoins just because they think they will be rich. Before the price rised it was just hardcored computer ppl that was interested in it. Still ppl dont understand the idea about bitcoins. They just want to trade it or with it on exchanges.

You compared it with NLG. That is also wrong. NLG is a scamcoin. They had a large premine that was going to be distributed to ppl. That did not happen. Now they are using that premine to develope the coin. So now it getting less shady. SLG dont have that premine so there is no funds to use for development.

I have succeded with my companies and it is because I have knowledge of PR and economy.

Its hard to get more ppl into crypto because wallets are not easy to use and if you lose your password then your money are gone. There needs to be more development on the clientside before it can be used in a way that more ppl understand.

Your problem is that you dont understand that you can not have the same % of the coins and still develope SLG. There must be more ppl into it and your % have to change. But if it is done right the price will rise and you will benefit from it more than you lose. The main point is that there are no funds and more ppl and more coins needs to be in the community. PoW and algo is one way to go.

Giving more coins to you so you can keep your % will not solve the problems. Sooner or later Bitrex will delist this coin. It dont matter to them that the minimum trades are done. They want to have coins with a future.  

Stop looking at other coins. SLG is a working coin. It has no shady past. It lacks funding and development. Development are costly and takes time. Things needs to be happening soon

- Yes, I'm comparing SLG to BTC, SLG to NLG, SLG to GBP and whatever that help us take perspective.

- 100% of the people involved in BTC wants to make money.
If you just want to improve the world, sell your BTC and keep helping so we can have a better world.
Same stuff with alts.

- NLG didnt mantain their original road map, not sure if that counts as scam, but i dont care. The good point of NLG is that they are actively developing it.

- Congrats for your sucess in those business!

- It's hard to get new users, I agree, that's why we need development.
But you're forgeting the main motivation to attract new people.
FOMO.
It happend before, and it's gonna happen again.

- I understand that I dont want my investment diluted and I understand that you dont understand that chainging the algo or moving to PoW is not a marketing tool. It's the spec of the coin. We need marketing tools!

- Bittrex wont delist SLG.

- If you read my previous posts, you already know that I'm willing to collaborate in the funding with SLG and BTC


There are another benefit to go PoW again and that is increased security.

This coin has more tha one problem and there is not money or time to fix everything at once.
If we go the road some wants and that is to keep their % of this coin and make an split 5:1. That i s bad economy because that is nearly the same as giving near 500% PoS for a year. It will not do any good for this coin and exchanges dont like it and can delist the coin.

There are some security risks that this coin has and the first is PoS with coinage. The second is Cryptsy and it is nearly the same as the first. We dont know who in charge of the wallet and what is going to happend to it. It will get a huge coinage and its a high risk for this coin. Other old wallets are also an risk.


Thats why I insist that a low cost solution are to make a comeback with PoW. You need both to have coinage and the most hashing power to bring this coin down.

One solution are to make 2 coins per block. That would give  1440 new coins/day. Not much to catch and it will help a little with the trades. I would also suggest to change algo. If you reward more than 2 coins/block I think there is no way to avoid a algo change. I also think that a discussion with the other devs to incorperate this coin into the weaver would be possible.

But a very good PR are also needed to get more interest in the coin. I think we can buy 5 coins per block without problem  if algo are changed to the same as darksilk. Devs have the code and it would not be so hard to change SLG. Mining can be done with CPU or GPU.

I also suggest that max coinage will be 30 days.  Discuss it and give steven some inputs.



  

- "make an split 5:1. That i s bad economy because that is nearly the same as giving near 500% PoS for a year."
dude wtf? It's adapting the monetary base to the users, which should have been done since the beggining...
You understand the market cap will be the same right? so it's 0% increase in your value...

- If coinage is a big problem, I could agree moving to PoW manteining the monetary policy.
Keeping the same monetary policy is basic.

- 2 coins per block = 1440 per day = 525600 per year = 13.5% inflation
2 coins doesnt sound that much for miners but is a 13.5% inflation which is bigger than 5.5% inflation we have right now
You see why I was proposing the 5:1? Because it makes no sense to be more scarce than btc (it still would be with a 5:1 conversion)

- 5 coins per block would be hyperinflation, so nop nop nop, or atleast without conversion. 13.5% inflation sounds too much compared to 5.5%, so 33.8% is less interesting.


Making a split is inflation. Coins will be 5 times cheaper and only bagholders will get the coins. No new ppl will get into the economy with that move and you will not secure the coin from attacks. Investors in companies in my country wants around 15% returns to be interesting for them.  Your proposing of 500% inflation is not good to the coin. You dont understand basic economy but you have to understand that this coin needs both  PoW and PR and that badly.

You're mixing stuff.

- There is no inflation since the value of your holding is the same. So there is no devaluation in your portfolio which is the consecuence of inflation.
Investors can stay calm

- The split is for having more coins. Therefore being less scarce. Therefore more affordable for more people.
No new people included in this movement.
Yes you can say it has 8 digits to be used, but people dont wanna have 0.0005 of something, the wanna have 50 of that.
It's just a matter of perception.

- PoW as you propose is to solve coinage issue and get new people into SLG by mining with CPU and GPU

- PR is to attract new users/developers/investors/merchants.
Make interviews in the crypto and the mainstream media, ads in news site, some kind of contest to promote SLG, etc

You are wrong. You dont want to catch a few coins that maybe dont even make an inflation but you want to do a split 5* that will inflate the coin 500%. You cant catch 16 million coins at once but you can catch a few thousand. If you can make PR like you said then 5 coins per block is nothing and the coins price will rise. This coins need security, more coins and more ppl. Everything cant be solved at once because of funds. Crunch some numbers and see how much you pay bittrex for nothing. How about getting a few coins and help trading. It will not do all but it will make a little movement. New algo, PoW and PR and some more coins will do much. A 500% inflation are crazy. It will destroy this coin and do nothing for it.

again... dude you are mixing stuff.
i'm gonna try to explain it more detailed

1:5 or 5* or split.
One time
More offer and same demand, make the price goes down to 1/5.
Means no inflation to holders becuase you end up having the same value.
The total supply of SLG increase one time.

PoW inflation
Everyday
More offer, same demand. Make the price goes down depending on the % created.
Means inflation to the holders. You end up losing value.
The total suplly of SLG increase every year.

PoS inflation
Everyday
More offer, same demand. Make the price goes down depending on the % created.
Means no inflation to holders becuase you end up having the same value.
The total suplly of SLG increase every year.


Do you see the difference?

There is a reason for each thing.
Dont try to mix them all
I'll already explain which reason is behind what stuff, but here you have it again

- The split is for having more coins. Therefore being more abundant. Therefore more affordable for more people.

- PoW as you propose is to solve coinage issue and get new people into SLG by mining with CPU and GPU

- PR is to attract new users/developers/investors/merchants.
Make interviews in the crypto and the mainstream media, ads in news site, some kind of contest to promote SLG, etc
1476  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TES] ϟ The Tesla ϟ Decentralize the Energy System ϟ Bittrex - Cryptopia on: December 06, 2016, 01:02:27 AM
Are the faucets up yet ? If not why ? Coin looks cool, I like Tesla. This is like a second Resurrection of the thread.
I think you need to do some promos to get more people in. I like your roadmap ideas but how many are you going to get done and which ones first ?

Hi,

welcome!

no faucets, TES is so cheap right now.  Cheesy

We're working on the wallet update, then will make a promotional campaing of TES and then we will lauch the Android wallet.
After that, we'll get into the Free Energy Crowfunding Platform
1477  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLG] Sterlingcoin v1.5.1.1 | United Kindom | Bittrex Bleutrade Cryptopia on: December 05, 2016, 08:11:44 PM

I agree with you crysx

This coin was a very good coin. It still legit and working but there is a huge lack of interest. Rw13enlib88  thinks steven can fix everything for nothing. Just the rebase takes a lot of time and effort. I have started companies outside internet and one thing is the most importent to know and that is "A product can be superior but if it has no costumer it will fail".

SLG is old. Its hard to make PR for it. It needs some work. It needs something new and that could be a  new algo and PoW. There are also other ways to go but that is more work and it needs more money.Some ppl here thinks that they can sit on their bag and everything will be good. First of all SLG is a global coin. Coins are not limited by borders. Secondly if a coin has a few ppl holding it then new ppl will hesitate to get into it because they are scared of beeing dumped on. SLG coinsupply is to low.

Steven is a good guy. He have been here alone riding the storm. Dont work against him. Work with him or this coin will be dead.

I dont think Steven can fix everything, but he will do his best.

SLG is old and that is good. Do you prefer to use a 7 year old coin or a recently created alt? Cmmon, dont be naive...

It's hard to make PR fot it? lol
Have you heard about nationalism? Brexit?
BoE creating his own digital currency like SLG but with centralization?
https://www.rt.com/business/352280-england-cb-bitcoins-issue/
Do you understand that right now, we are about 10 million people using digital currencies?
Do you understand that we are about 7.000 million people on earth?

First of all, when you compete against thousands of coins you need to focus on a niche. Maybe you dont understand it, because as it seems you dont have any concept of marketing. If you have launched companies outside internet with a good product and you have failed to attract customers is because you dont know anything about marketing.

Second, do people hesitate buying BTC because there are some rich people holding btc?
Third, you're right coinsupply is low. It should be increased but not for the reasons you mention.
It should be increased to fit the new users and dont have one SLG too expensive in €/$/pound
You should learn about monetary policy...

4th, we all agree, we are not here to work against Steven, we are all here to help Steven and SLG, and for sure I'll make my best on it

You are comparing SLG with bitcoin. That is so out of bounds. Bitcoin was not first. We had another in europe and it was in banks. It failed because of funds. Bitcoin had a lot of problems in the beginning. It was called a scam and other things. A lot of ppl are into bitcoins just because they think they will be rich. Before the price rised it was just hardcored computer ppl that was interested in it. Still ppl dont understand the idea about bitcoins. They just want to trade it or with it on exchanges.

You compared it with NLG. That is also wrong. NLG is a scamcoin. They had a large premine that was going to be distributed to ppl. That did not happen. Now they are using that premine to develope the coin. So now it getting less shady. SLG dont have that premine so there is no funds to use for development.

I have succeded with my companies and it is because I have knowledge of PR and economy.

Its hard to get more ppl into crypto because wallets are not easy to use and if you lose your password then your money are gone. There needs to be more development on the clientside before it can be used in a way that more ppl understand.

Your problem is that you dont understand that you can not have the same % of the coins and still develope SLG. There must be more ppl into it and your % have to change. But if it is done right the price will rise and you will benefit from it more than you lose. The main point is that there are no funds and more ppl and more coins needs to be in the community. PoW and algo is one way to go.

Giving more coins to you so you can keep your % will not solve the problems. Sooner or later Bitrex will delist this coin. It dont matter to them that the minimum trades are done. They want to have coins with a future.  

Stop looking at other coins. SLG is a working coin. It has no shady past. It lacks funding and development. Development are costly and takes time. Things needs to be happening soon

- Yes, I'm comparing SLG to BTC, SLG to NLG, SLG to GBP and whatever that help us take perspective.

- 100% of the people involved in BTC wants to make money.
If you just want to improve the world, sell your BTC and keep helping so we can have a better world.
Same stuff with alts.

- NLG didnt mantain their original road map, not sure if that counts as scam, but i dont care. The good point of NLG is that they are actively developing it.

- Congrats for your sucess in those business!

- It's hard to get new users, I agree, that's why we need development.
But you're forgeting the main motivation to attract new people.
FOMO.
It happend before, and it's gonna happen again.

- I understand that I dont want my investment diluted and I understand that you dont understand that chainging the algo or moving to PoW is not a marketing tool. It's the spec of the coin. We need marketing tools!

- Bittrex wont delist SLG.

- If you read my previous posts, you already know that I'm willing to collaborate in the funding with SLG and BTC


There are another benefit to go PoW again and that is increased security.

This coin has more tha one problem and there is not money or time to fix everything at once.
If we go the road some wants and that is to keep their % of this coin and make an split 5:1. That i s bad economy because that is nearly the same as giving near 500% PoS for a year. It will not do any good for this coin and exchanges dont like it and can delist the coin.

There are some security risks that this coin has and the first is PoS with coinage. The second is Cryptsy and it is nearly the same as the first. We dont know who in charge of the wallet and what is going to happend to it. It will get a huge coinage and its a high risk for this coin. Other old wallets are also an risk.


Thats why I insist that a low cost solution are to make a comeback with PoW. You need both to have coinage and the most hashing power to bring this coin down.

One solution are to make 2 coins per block. That would give  1440 new coins/day. Not much to catch and it will help a little with the trades. I would also suggest to change algo. If you reward more than 2 coins/block I think there is no way to avoid a algo change. I also think that a discussion with the other devs to incorperate this coin into the weaver would be possible.

But a very good PR are also needed to get more interest in the coin. I think we can buy 5 coins per block without problem  if algo are changed to the same as darksilk. Devs have the code and it would not be so hard to change SLG. Mining can be done with CPU or GPU.

I also suggest that max coinage will be 30 days.  Discuss it and give steven some inputs.



  

- "make an split 5:1. That i s bad economy because that is nearly the same as giving near 500% PoS for a year."
dude wtf? It's adapting the monetary base to the users, which should have been done since the beggining...
You understand the market cap will be the same right? so it's 0% increase in your value...

- If coinage is a big problem, I could agree moving to PoW manteining the monetary policy.
Keeping the same monetary policy is basic.

- 2 coins per block = 1440 per day = 525600 per year = 13.5% inflation
2 coins doesnt sound that much for miners but is a 13.5% inflation which is bigger than 5.5% inflation we have right now
You see why I was proposing the 5:1? Because it makes no sense to be more scarce than btc (it still would be with a 5:1 conversion)

- 5 coins per block would be hyperinflation, so nop nop nop, or atleast without conversion. 13.5% inflation sounds too much compared to 5.5%, so 33.8% is less interesting.


Making a split is inflation. Coins will be 5 times cheaper and only bagholders will get the coins. No new ppl will get into the economy with that move and you will not secure the coin from attacks. Investors in companies in my country wants around 15% returns to be interesting for them.  Your proposing of 500% inflation is not good to the coin. You dont understand basic economy but you have to understand that this coin needs both  PoW and PR and that badly.

You're mixing stuff.

- There is no inflation since the value of your holding is the same. So there is no devaluation in your portfolio which is the consecuence of inflation.
Investors can stay calm

- The split is for having more coins. Therefore being less scarce. Therefore more affordable for more people.
No new people included in this movement.
Yes you can say it has 8 digits to be used, but people dont wanna have 0.0005 of something, the wanna have 50 of that.
It's just a matter of perception.

- PoW as you propose is to solve coinage issue and get new people into SLG by mining with CPU and GPU

- PR is to attract new users/developers/investors/merchants.
Make interviews in the crypto and the mainstream media, ads in news site, some kind of contest to promote SLG, etc
1478  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLG] Sterlingcoin v1.5.1.1 | United Kindom | Bittrex Bleutrade Cryptopia on: December 05, 2016, 06:06:51 PM

I agree with you crysx

This coin was a very good coin. It still legit and working but there is a huge lack of interest. Rw13enlib88  thinks steven can fix everything for nothing. Just the rebase takes a lot of time and effort. I have started companies outside internet and one thing is the most importent to know and that is "A product can be superior but if it has no costumer it will fail".

SLG is old. Its hard to make PR for it. It needs some work. It needs something new and that could be a  new algo and PoW. There are also other ways to go but that is more work and it needs more money.Some ppl here thinks that they can sit on their bag and everything will be good. First of all SLG is a global coin. Coins are not limited by borders. Secondly if a coin has a few ppl holding it then new ppl will hesitate to get into it because they are scared of beeing dumped on. SLG coinsupply is to low.

Steven is a good guy. He have been here alone riding the storm. Dont work against him. Work with him or this coin will be dead.

I dont think Steven can fix everything, but he will do his best.

SLG is old and that is good. Do you prefer to use a 7 year old coin or a recently created alt? Cmmon, dont be naive...

It's hard to make PR fot it? lol
Have you heard about nationalism? Brexit?
BoE creating his own digital currency like SLG but with centralization?
https://www.rt.com/business/352280-england-cb-bitcoins-issue/
Do you understand that right now, we are about 10 million people using digital currencies?
Do you understand that we are about 7.000 million people on earth?

First of all, when you compete against thousands of coins you need to focus on a niche. Maybe you dont understand it, because as it seems you dont have any concept of marketing. If you have launched companies outside internet with a good product and you have failed to attract customers is because you dont know anything about marketing.

Second, do people hesitate buying BTC because there are some rich people holding btc?
Third, you're right coinsupply is low. It should be increased but not for the reasons you mention.
It should be increased to fit the new users and dont have one SLG too expensive in €/$/pound
You should learn about monetary policy...

4th, we all agree, we are not here to work against Steven, we are all here to help Steven and SLG, and for sure I'll make my best on it

You are comparing SLG with bitcoin. That is so out of bounds. Bitcoin was not first. We had another in europe and it was in banks. It failed because of funds. Bitcoin had a lot of problems in the beginning. It was called a scam and other things. A lot of ppl are into bitcoins just because they think they will be rich. Before the price rised it was just hardcored computer ppl that was interested in it. Still ppl dont understand the idea about bitcoins. They just want to trade it or with it on exchanges.

You compared it with NLG. That is also wrong. NLG is a scamcoin. They had a large premine that was going to be distributed to ppl. That did not happen. Now they are using that premine to develope the coin. So now it getting less shady. SLG dont have that premine so there is no funds to use for development.

I have succeded with my companies and it is because I have knowledge of PR and economy.

Its hard to get more ppl into crypto because wallets are not easy to use and if you lose your password then your money are gone. There needs to be more development on the clientside before it can be used in a way that more ppl understand.

Your problem is that you dont understand that you can not have the same % of the coins and still develope SLG. There must be more ppl into it and your % have to change. But if it is done right the price will rise and you will benefit from it more than you lose. The main point is that there are no funds and more ppl and more coins needs to be in the community. PoW and algo is one way to go.

Giving more coins to you so you can keep your % will not solve the problems. Sooner or later Bitrex will delist this coin. It dont matter to them that the minimum trades are done. They want to have coins with a future.  

Stop looking at other coins. SLG is a working coin. It has no shady past. It lacks funding and development. Development are costly and takes time. Things needs to be happening soon

- Yes, I'm comparing SLG to BTC, SLG to NLG, SLG to GBP and whatever that help us take perspective.

- 100% of the people involved in BTC wants to make money.
If you just want to improve the world, sell your BTC and keep helping so we can have a better world.
Same stuff with alts.

- NLG didnt mantain their original road map, not sure if that counts as scam, but i dont care. The good point of NLG is that they are actively developing it.

- Congrats for your sucess in those business!

- It's hard to get new users, I agree, that's why we need development.
But you're forgeting the main motivation to attract new people.
FOMO.
It happend before, and it's gonna happen again.

- I understand that I dont want my investment diluted and I understand that you dont understand that chainging the algo or moving to PoW is not a marketing tool. It's the spec of the coin. We need marketing tools!

- Bittrex wont delist SLG.

- If you read my previous posts, you already know that I'm willing to collaborate in the funding with SLG and BTC


There are another benefit to go PoW again and that is increased security.

This coin has more tha one problem and there is not money or time to fix everything at once.
If we go the road some wants and that is to keep their % of this coin and make an split 5:1. That i s bad economy because that is nearly the same as giving near 500% PoS for a year. It will not do any good for this coin and exchanges dont like it and can delist the coin.

There are some security risks that this coin has and the first is PoS with coinage. The second is Cryptsy and it is nearly the same as the first. We dont know who in charge of the wallet and what is going to happend to it. It will get a huge coinage and its a high risk for this coin. Other old wallets are also an risk.


Thats why I insist that a low cost solution are to make a comeback with PoW. You need both to have coinage and the most hashing power to bring this coin down.

One solution are to make 2 coins per block. That would give  1440 new coins/day. Not much to catch and it will help a little with the trades. I would also suggest to change algo. If you reward more than 2 coins/block I think there is no way to avoid a algo change. I also think that a discussion with the other devs to incorperate this coin into the weaver would be possible.

But a very good PR are also needed to get more interest in the coin. I think we can buy 5 coins per block without problem  if algo are changed to the same as darksilk. Devs have the code and it would not be so hard to change SLG. Mining can be done with CPU or GPU.

I also suggest that max coinage will be 30 days.  Discuss it and give steven some inputs.



 

- "make an split 5:1. That i s bad economy because that is nearly the same as giving near 500% PoS for a year."
dude wtf? It's adapting the monetary base to the users, which should have been done since the beggining...
You understand the market cap will be the same right? so it's 0% increase in your value...

- If coinage is a big problem, I could agree moving to PoW manteining the monetary policy.
Keeping the same monetary policy is basic.

- 2 coins per block = 1440 per day = 525600 per year = 13.5% inflation
2 coins doesnt sound that much for miners but is a 13.5% inflation which is bigger than 5.5% inflation we have right now
You see why I was proposing the 5:1? Because it makes no sense to be more scarce than btc (it still would be with a 5:1 conversion)

- 5 coins per block would be hyperinflation, so nop nop nop, or atleast without conversion. 13.5% inflation sounds too much compared to 5.5%, so 33.8% is less interesting.
1479  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TES] ϟ The Tesla ϟ Decentralize the Energy System ϟ Bittrex - Cryptopia on: December 05, 2016, 01:16:26 AM
Hi Community!

We will have news about wallets soon but we have a new problem for this week...  Sad

TES is in danger of delisting in Bittrex!!

As you can imagine, we cannot lose Bittrex so we need you to colaborate on this one!

Just 2 things...

First, send an email or open a ticket in Bittrex asking them to keep TES listed no matter if we achieve the volume goal.
We are a long term community, which usually means we are not buying and selling everyday.
You can copy the text in the bottom, it's gonna take 1 min and it's really helping TES

Second, buy some TES so we can achieve the volume goal

Thanks for your colaboration


Quote
Hi Bittrex,

I'm writting to ask you to not delist TES.
I'm part of the community and I'm holding for the long term, which means I'm not buying and selling everyday.
Even if we dont achieve the volume goal, I have to ask you to keep TES listed.

Thank you


Same as diode. Expect some desperate young gaper with bags full of trashy trex alts to self-trade a little to yield 5 BTC volume or whatever is required to keep it another two weeks.

Dont make selftrades. Buy, sell or dont do anything. As you prefer...
1480  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ▐[ANN] [TRUMP] TrumpCoin - The Currency Dedicated to Making America Great Again▌ on: December 04, 2016, 09:29:25 PM
sorry what is an RCTR campaing?

RCTR = Re-correct The Record!

We used the twitter bot to send Trumpcoins to people who made interesting tweets as a thank you or tip!

Maybe we can again do this to bring attention to the areas that the main stream news is neglecting to report accurately.

What do you think about this?  I will put 500Trumpcoins toward this out of my personal!

can we tip journalist who are reporting on the issue?
maybe this way, they are also interested in talking about TC
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