As far as the issue of using celebrity names without permission, even assuming for the sake of argument that there would be no legal issues, wouldn't it be better to have the celebrity on board anyways? That way they could promote the product during interviews on talk shows and such. True good point. I mean in the ideal world this would be the way to go. The advantage of targeting teenagers would be that they may become lifetime users. Maybe a better way to reach them would be through the classroom. Could we convince business/economics teachers that satoshis make good "play money" for classroom exercises? I think there are some possibilities there. I think you bring a convincing point there in these would become lifetime users. Yes, the classroom is another way I think there was some user on this forum who was doing that. Good suggestions!
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haha good stuff Bruno!
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This is stupid, sexist, and borderline illegal.
^^this^^ plus we already have DeCrypto and GGB doing that.
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You get girls to post sexy "jail-bait" pictures and guys send them tips. The girls can have a wishlist of stuff they want (say amazon.com) and as they accrue bitcoins they can redeem them for their stuff from the site operator. This way you don't have to teach teenage girls dumb enough to post pictures of themselves on the net how to deal with bitcoins, just male nerds.
lol...interesting take. I don't want to go to jail. Why does it have to be "jail-bait" pictures? lol
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Then I suggest you grab it and run with it....
lol ok ...didn't know I needed your permission first
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Terrible idea.
I'd give you a free idea which might actually work: Make a free2play mmorpg or social networking site in which you can earn and spend bitcoin, themed for your particular audience. Bonus points if you find a clever way of combining the two.
Then of course that would be a lot more work, but you aren't afraid of work are you?
I see where your coming from. Not afraid of work no!!
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How would this work? Would you be asking teenage girls (or more likely their parents) to exchange USD for bitcoins and then exchange them for merchandise? Or would you be giving away the coins? As with anything else its the parents that "buy in" to what their teenagers do. At first, would be giving bits of bitcoin away. This way it becomes a novelty within a novelty. The girls can claim to their friends they have Cody Coins thus drawing them in. You could even have a "limited supply" and once that is gone they would have to purchase them. And yes they could use them to buy merchandise, songs etc., or just send amongst each other. For this model to become profitable, or even just break even, you'd basically have to become an online currency exchange. It would probably be easier to convince Mt. Gox to start selling celebrity endorsed Yubikeys. I think becoming a "online wallet" makes more sense and do advertising. Obviously, the model would have to be worked on. I was just seeing if its even a good demographic to be targeting. If you're willing to operate at a loss simply to increase Bitcoin awareness, you'd better be prepared to give up astronomical amounts of money to convince your target market that it's better to obtain the merchandise through you instead of simply buying it at the mall or downloading it from itunes.
Yes, aware of this but the trade off could be pretty big. Good feedback thanks!
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You are partially right. I just see teenage demographic as a game-changer. Just don't know how to get there or at least working on it
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I am sure they would want to know about it first and to give their permission to use their name. If you contact Hollywood people - that group is more than likely going to be against it.
I'm not following everyone's logic here where the person needs to be contacted? Am I not allowed to make a fan site? I suppose your saying a "profitable" fan site ? Then what happens when I put google adsense on my fan site currently or something is that making a profit?
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I said "do" not "don't". You mean Cody Simpson wouldn't even be involved with this project? Well, I'd hope his managers aren't petty enough to sue over the use of his likeness, but that seems kind of sketchy. You're really not giving a lot of credit to the girls if you think using a famous person's name is enough to make them like something. Well, it's great to talk about expanding into new markets, but the market has to be ready for the product and the product has to be ready for the market, and I don't think that's been achieved with bitcoin + the type of teenage girl who would go for this. There are some fairly easy-to-use e-wallets and hybrid wallets, but protecting bitcoins still requires a little technical knowledge and a lot of common sense. But, if you already have some ideas for bitcoin businesses for this demographic to spend their coins on, why not focus on developing those first? It might be worthwhile if the businesses exist. @BkkCoins - Ooh, that's an interesting idea. No, I hear your point. I think aligning a Celeb would be a better idea like BkkCoins said. I was just throwing this out here to get some feedback and introduce a new way to spread bitcoin. It doesn't take much for teenage girls to be come fanatic about something it's actually built into their "brains" . lol....
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You could talk to some celebrities about making a deal with Casascius to get actual physical coins with their likeness or band logos and embedded with bitcoin value. It would work best when the band/celebrity has a philosophy that aligns with Bitcoin.
Being an old fogey I'd probably go for StonedCoins (with a tongue on front).
Haha like the "stonedCoins" good idea. Yes, I can see your point about aligning with a celeb . Hmm...
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Well, I do think we need to expand our market past this white male geek demographic.
I disagree. Anytime you can expand the usage of something it is good thing. Don't get me wrong I like the white pasty male geek demographic! A celebrity endorsement would be nice, but I'm not sure that a teenage pop icon is the right spokesperson I never even thought about a celebrity endorsement not a bad idea. This was more just a general website for girls to feel they have something. Sure, it would get a lot of attention, but what are the girls going to do with their coins after the promotion's over? They would always remember it as a marketing gimmick unless the marketers took care to make sure they had plenty of ways to integrate it into their life. This wouldn't be a promotion. This is just a place for the teenage girls to pick up some cody coins or whatever the celeb they want. It would be come a novelty within a novelty for them and yes they could spend ( just have to brainstorm ). I wonder if a facebook faucet would be a good idea? It would work like a typical facebook game, you get rewards for letting the app spam your friends and convincing them to sign up.
Good question. I'm sure someone around here has thought of this? hehe....
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What makes these coins "Beiber coins" instead of just bitcoins?
Yes, I know what you mean. Basically, the site would be branded as "Cody Coins/Bieber Coins" the site actually might have to be an online wallet type site that is branded toward Cody Simpson or Bieber for example ( meaning the site would have Cody/Bieber all over it) as the teenagers wouldn't know the difference between bitcoins and CodyCoins even though its bitcoins at the end of the day. All they know is they are getting bits for free and teenagers like to have things associated with their favorite stars and even better they can actually spend it on real goods. This make better sense?
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So the other day I was thinking if there was anyway of marketing bitcoins to teenagers we would be pretty golden for bitcoins.
So for example, someone like Cody Simpson we could have Cody Coins site . At first, we would do a Cody Coins faucet and each teenage girls would come and get like say small bit of cody coins. Hopefully, there would be a way to spend these cody coins ( after some accumulation or something) maybe at coinDL for a cody simpson track or t-shirt or something. The point being all of sudden bitcoins could go mainstream in pop culture . In the ideal world teenagers would begin to snatch up cody coins and help propel it virally through twitter and facebook of what they have.
I don't know this is pretty far out there but I can see how this would play into a few different variations like Beiber Coins lol ....thoughts?
edit: I think this would be a good market to target as a lot of household disposable income goes to this type of audience and teenage "buy in" already happens as its the most sought out target market in the world.
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;-) I *am* the wife. My husband (and I) runs QuickBitcoins.net !
Hello wifey! haha ...didn't know welcome aboard I like your bitpantry site don't know anything about QuickBitcoins.net - hopefully, you are enjoying the bitcoin community!
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Don't worry Charlie will get to you! (eventually....) lol
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How is this working out for your wife?
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Couldn't a sub-contractor system work? A large, recognized courier system would hire sub-contractors to handle deliveries. This way, even if the individual courier gets in trouble, the actual agency would have plausible deniability.
Why would anyone want to be a courier if it meant assuming responsibility for the package contents with absolutely no assurance it wasn't something illegal or dangerous? this ^^
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