couple things.
I still can't specify scrypt vs decred. I'm using all miningrentalrigs for host.
When you select a coin it wants to change everything. Also, under the coin selection mention why can't you select a pool payout value?
I'm getting a couple Baikal Giant+ units. Does this allow monitoring or profit switching between algos?
1) Last week we figured out that MRR changed their API's to require both API key+secret, so there will be some implementation effort before MRR will work. 2) Can you explain this scenario a bit more. When you talk about selecting a coin, in which part of the application? 3) I know that some users have Baikal miners and they have worked fine with Awesome Miner. The only limitation found so far is that the Baikal miner cannot change algorithm on the fly when changing pool, which makes the profit switcher to not work. The algorithm change on the pool command is a limitation on the Baikal miner as far as we have seen so far. |
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Well, I tried the current developer build (3.2.2) with a managed profit miner. Did my profiles with benchmarks, configured claymore dual -dcri values and made sure that every online service was correctly configured. AM started mining successfully but to the wrong address. Immediately stopped the miner and checked the logs. It seems that AM isn't configuring launch parameters automatically. Went to confirm this by deleting the default configs of all miner software (ccminer, etc) and tried to mine again. This time AM failed to launch the mining software. Logs confirms this and also the profit switching screen doesn't show any launch parameters. Log file: https://pastebin.com/SeVJ10jGDon't know how everyone is doing but managed profit mining isn't working for me. Just a thought, but I installed AM in C:\AwesomeMiner\ instead of the default location. I'm using Windows 10 Pro with admin rights. Request: it would be really useful if we could clone/export profit switching configs. It's a PIA to have to manually input benchmarks again when all I want to do is an exact copy of a profile with a different command line for 1 program (like a profile to mining only in GPU 1 in my PC while I'm gaming with GPU 0) I think this is similar to what another user just reported. I will provide a correction for this scenario for the profit switcher, but please verify in next release. I can also add a Clone button for you in the Profit Profile section of the Options dialog. The idea is that you should be able to select for example the AMD profile, make a clone, and then make a few adjustments. Is that what you are looking for? |
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Version 3.2.2: I cannot find any OnlineServices from MiningRigRentals. Is this a bug or a feature?  It's not listed as one of the customizable services in the Options dialog, Online Services section. You can still see the static profits in the Online services tab, if you at the bottom of the window make sure the checkbox (inside the drop down) is checked. In general, MRR has not had as much priority in Awesome Miner as the other services. ... I do have the MRR checkbox ticked, still no info  I just noticed that the MRR API has changed to require API key+secret, even for the basic operation to get general profit information. Strange move. |
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Hello, It's possible to create a rule wich change frenquency on ASIC in relation to profit ? For example, if nicehash or coin report: - 0 to 20$/day --> 384MHz
- 20.01 to 30$/day -> 400MHz
- 30.01 to 35$/day -> 412MHz
- ...
Thanks A feature similar to this was possible with the older batches of Antminer S9, as they could be configured with custom frequency over SSH. Newer batches of S9 doesn't support that configuration. From an Awesome Miner point of view, SSH commands can be sent to any ASIC/computer, so this is more about what the ASIC can support and figuring out exactly how it can be set over SSH (or any API). There are no predefined triggers for defining profit rules like that right now. It should be possible with a C# script based trigger that requests pool revenue per day. |
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CPU mining with profit switching in AM dev 3.2.2)Q: How do I set up CPU mining with profit switching in AM? Problem 1: I can see 'CpuMiner-Opt 3.4.6 (CPU)' under 'managed software'. But it is NOT available/selectable in the profit profiles -> no CPU mining! Does any else notice the same? Because of this I created a 'user defined mining software' entry for a CPU miner (Configured as [full compatibility with 'CpuMiner-Opt 3.4.6 (CPU)]). I also selected all supported algos as for 'CpuMiner-Opt 3.4.6 (CPU)' So far so good. BUT: Problem 2: The custom miner config is missing the same functionality (Default command line argument, User defined command line argument) as for built-in miners. This will lead to P3 further down  Problem 3: The custom miner does not get any parameters passed to it. Result: Starting Diagnostics
...What am I doing wrong? 1) The CPU miner is currently not included in the profit switcher. Most people run the profit switcher with GPU mining software, so adding and testing for CPU mining wasn't a priority. I can add it to the list for the next version. 2+3) I found a problem related to the profit switcher here, so I will correct that and hopefully it was for the scenario you described here. |
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Currently when I want my Managed Miner to switch to a different coin or use a different mining program, I right-click the miner, select Apply Template and then select a new Managed Template to use.
Can this type of operation be performed programmatically either via a C# script or HTTP call?
I looked at the documentation but did not see any reference to this.
I would likely upgrade from Professional to Premium if this is available (especially via an HTTP call).
This would allow users to write their own profit solutions external from AM and in whatever language they like.
Their solution could then simply instruct AM to switch to a specified template on a specified miner.
Thanks!
Currently no, but I've already made some preparations for this because of similar requests recently. What I can do is to add two new HTTP API methods in the next version. One to get the list of all Managed Templates (with Id and Name), and then an API operation to apply a specific template to a miner. |
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Version 3.2.2: I cannot find any OnlineServices from MiningRigRentals. Is this a bug or a feature? It's not listed as one of the customizable services in the Options dialog, Online Services section. You can still see the static profits in the Online services tab, if you at the bottom of the window make sure the checkbox (inside the drop down) is checked. In general, MRR has not had as much priority in Awesome Miner as the other services. |
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Prompt me please. After numerous updates, I have lost graph of the temperature. Is it just me such a situation or have all users on the free version?
This is not related to which version you are using. Temperatures should be displayed so this is probably a bug I need to look into. Please tell us when will fix the bug, or will it be in the next update? The current plan is to correct it in the next release. |
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Hi Patrike and thanks a lot for your work and the new versions  I have a little problem with miningrigrentals.com I don't understand why, in Online Services, the profit is so high. When I connect my miner on miningrigrentals.com, I have this: It was about 38CHF and not 81CHF with stratum+tcp://mrr-pool:3333In second, thanks to change the coins listed with exchange rate in the statusbar. It would be perfect if we could add more. Have a good day. Jack Thanks for the feedback. I know that MRR support isn't as up-to-date as it should because of API changes over the years since it originally was implemented. It had a little lower priority from my side as the feature not been one of the most widely used. For the coins in the status bar, is it that you want more than 5 of them to be displayed at the same time? |
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Prompt me please. After numerous updates, I have lost graph of the temperature. Is it just me such a situation or have all users on the free version?
This is not related to which version you are using. Temperatures should be displayed so this is probably a bug I need to look into. |
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Hey Patrike,
I seen your post that you had many good ideas on how to improve the software, maybe we should run a running tab of all the things planned to be adjusted or added so we can discuss them as a group to try and help you along with the brainstorming side of how to go about it better.
I am planning on doing some more videos, just waiting for the next update in hopes that it fixes some of the issues im having currently. I know you mentioned you were making some changes on a lot of the topics im getting to work 100% yet.
One feature i could use some help by either you or someone else in the community is how does one add coin balances into the software, i have tried so many different coins trying to get it to work based on the instructions on the site and they all come back as "update failed" this is not something that needs a dire fix, just looking for some assistance on how others got it to work... trying to make sure i know more about the software and how to get most of the features working before i go and post videos on how to do it all... for future peeps.
Maybe something simlar to UserVoice would make sense, where everyone can create feature requests and then there is a discussion per request and other users can vote. The drawback is that you probably would have to sign up before getting involved in conversations, making it less attractive to many users. Thanks for doing more video and trying out the new features. The Balance feature is probably not as well documented as it should be. Awesome Miner can only get information from 7 sources right now, and the one with support for most coins is: http://chainz.cryptoid.info/In Awesome Miner you can enter the following for Dash as an example, in the "Block Explorer API Url" field. http://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/api.dwsWhat I probably should do is to allow you enter any URL that returns a plain number with the current balance. Right now there is a behavior to follow the Bitcoin block explorer API if a custom URL is entered. |
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Hello!
AM isn't using some of my configured algorithms. Right now Skein in MiningPoolHub is supposed to the most profitable for me but AM doesn't have it in the profit switching list and it is enabled everywhere (main algos and switching profiles). Other algos are missing too.
Also, AM is duplicating worker names in the command line when using MiningPoolHub
Which version of Awesome Miner are you running. The latest public release (v3.2) or the latest development release? In the development release you can configure MiningPoolHub in the Options dialog, Online services, and select which algorithms to enable for the profit switcher. The latest version will also support custom mining software to be used together with the profit switcher (add a user defined Managed Software, and enable in in the Profit profile you use). If you use the feature "Add to worker name" for a Managed Miner (or Managed Profit Miner), it will append this to the worker name defined for the pool or profit switcher. In the Profit switching section of the Options dialog, how did you enter the worker name for Mining Pool Hub? And how is the "Add to worker name" configured for your Managed Profit Miner? More about worker names: http://www.awesomeminer.com/help/workername.aspx |
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I am proposing some enhancements to AM:
First of all, thanks for all feedback. I will comment on some of the items below. - Undo retirement of ccminer-1.5.81_1 (SP-Mod 1.5.81)
It is much faster (3x!! on GTX 1080ti) on keccak, but useless on almost any other algo :-( - Option to specify any type of miner software, preferrably one per algo.
Some miner sw is considerable faster on a specific algo than others (e.g.
- For miner sw with cmdline switches the entire commandline should be configurable using variables:
eg. "-a %ALGO% -i 31 -o %URL% -u %USER% -p x -b 0.0.0.0:4028 -x 1 -y 2 -z 3"
There are already two ccminer versions included (2.1 and Alexis). In addition to that, you can still add you own Managed Software, where you can define that you want to use the old ccminer for Keccak only. With the Managed Software feature you can define which algorithms to use for each mining software. Good suggestion about the variables, it could make sense for Generic Miner. - Option to run two (or more) miner instances on the same GPU, but so that
the miner sw does not get switched (when using profit switching) on all instances @ same time
Instead there should be a delay before the miner sw gets switched on the next instance (to the now most profitable algo!).
e.g.:
1. switch miner sw / algo on first instance
2. wait some time (configurable, e.g. 30 secs or 'profit switching interval / number of miner instances')
3. update profit list and dermine most profitable algo
4. on the next instance: if most profitable alto is different from the currently executed one then switch miner sw / algo
5. loop to 2 ... next instance
Why? I run two miner instances on the same GPU so I never loose hash time when swiching miner sw (e.g DAG preparation takes ages, before mining begins)
This is a very specific scenario for the profit switcher. The original idea was to keep it as simple as possible in contrast to Managed Miners where you can do almost anything. I will see if I can figure something out to handle this scenario in a good way. - Cumulated summary per miner group
What is the information you would like to see here, and where should it be presented? |
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Version 3.2.2 (Development preview of 3.3 - Not for production use)Here are the changes, where the blue items have been added or updated since the last development release: - More flexible algorithm configuration. New algorithms can be defined by user and configured for each mining software. - More flexible Online Service and profit switching configuration - Managed Software can be added and used by both Managed Miners and by the Managed Profit Switcher
- Profit switching improvements, including configuration to disable individual algorithms per pool and separate dual mining hashrates- Web interface includes secondary hashrate if available, coin information in smart phone mode and corrections to notification display in multi-user environments - HTTP API adds operations on single notifications and includes Group Id information for miners - Custom e-mail address can be set for a notification action, to override the global e-mail address to send notifications to - The coins listed with exchange rate in the statusbar can be customized
- Moved e-mail server configuration to a separate section in the Options dialog
- New algorithms added
- Antminer R1-LTC hashrate correction
- Display Claymore miner invalid shares as HW errors
- Claymore Ethereum Miner 9.8
- Correction of Block Explorer request for zcash for the Balance feature- Ccminer 2.1 replaces older Ccminer SP-mod - Corrections to SMTP library to support Office 365 accounts Important: The Remote Agent must also be upgraded. Development Previews can be enabled from the Options dialog, General section. Then Menu -> Check for updates. If you need access to the MSI files for manual installation: http://www.awesomeminer.com/download/setupdev/AwesomeMiner.msihttp://www.awesomeminer.com/download/setupdev/AwesomeMinerRemoteAgent.msiNew guide on the web site about Managed Software: http://www.awesomeminer.com/help/managedsoftware.aspx
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Here, installed again 3.2.1 and same issue, would not load, uninstalled and reinstalled 3.2, works great.
Many thanks for that information, I managed to find the issue. It's when you have a user defined algorithm with the same name as a predefined algorithm (for example you added Skein, but that one is already included). A correction will be available in version 3.2.2 that is planned to be available within the next 12h. |
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Hey Handsome,
Do you will update Claymore to 9.8 through Awesome Miner? It's been a few days...
I like the remote update.
I've uploaded a new definition file for those running the development version. I will also release a new development version within the next 12h where it's included. |
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Some possible issues concerning AM and profit switching on miningpoolhub when using auto exchange to some other coin.
I believe AM uses the BTC equivalent value with calculating highest profit coin at any particular time. On miningpoolhub, when using auto exchange to another coin, even when the auto exchanging to BTC, miningpoolhub has additional delays that has to be considered. Normally coins mines are initially unconfirmed, then confirmed; but with auto exchange they are then automatically place on the exchange to be converted to the desired coin, then finally deposited into the desired coin some time later. The more coins being auto exchanged, the faster this process completes. The time it takes for some coins to be exchanged can be very long if they have a very small balance because miningpoolhub bundles multiple small accounts of other miners together until there is enough to efficiently exchange them. I have seen small balances take days to exchange and of course the profit switching calculation will be completely off at that point because it was based in part on the BTC exchange rate at the time it was mined. On small mining rigs, profit switching to a coin that produces a small balance and then switches away too quickly is a problem because you can end up with such small coin balances on some coins that effectively never exchange until days or weeks later.
Setting AM to only switch once every several hours might partially resolve this issue, but is not optimal profit switching.
Can AM be told that any particular coin is set up as an auto exchange to another coin and then account for that by: 1) factoring in the conversion to the destination coin value when determining when to switch to that coin; 2) set that coin to always mine for a minimum duration (possibly) or minimum profit (best option) to improve the chance that there are enough coins to auto exchange quickly even if it would otherwise indicate that a profit switch is indicated. (i.e. a switch away from a low coin mining too quickly effectively reduces the profit of that coin to 0).
Example: Let's say I have SiaCoin set to auto exchange to ETH on miningpoolhub. I would like to be able to inform AM that I have this set and have it factor that into the profit calculation (i.e. consider the BTC/Day/GH/s factor by 0.5% loss for the auto exchange, or whatever). And also set SiaCoin so that when AM switches to it that it will mine it for at least enough to achieve some number of ETH, (i.e. 0.01 ETH) thereby practically guaranteeing that the auto exchange happens quickly.
These are good ideas for improving the profit switcher, but some of them will require quite some thinking and development effort to get right. With the latest development release you can define a profit factor (1 = 100%, 0.995 = 99.5%) for per algorithm and per online service pool (nicehash, zpool, MPH). You define this in Options dialog, Online Services section. |
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Patrike,
I have been promoting AM on steemit a lot lately and the various mining places i hang out on, one feature that has been brought up to me by more so the larger mining groups is adding the ability to mine coins based on difficulty...
Like add a "Manage Difficulty Miner" miner...
Many of the larger miners could care less about the profit switching side of mining, they are usually not needing the income today as the reason for profit switching is to place you on the more profitable coin current based on usually the value of the coin rising or difficulty dropping way down, but usually its because the value of the coin is super high based on the sharerate you mine at netting you the most profit if you switching it to btc automatic on a real time basis.
The larger miners i talked to told me they are more interested in the ability to add new coins and algo's on release date, which is already an option and the ability to mine low difficulty coins, not algos...
So this miner would not only have selections for which algo to mine, but which coin to mine, which would not work on pools that combine coins under a single mining port. They could setup the pools for each coin as part of setup and add new on the fly, then based on the select few they are interested in mining it would mine the coins with the lowest difficulty based on rules, netting them more coins in their pocket for that day
Example given to me...
Signatum: in a few days its dropping down from 2500 block reward to 1250 block reward size, so the profits on this coin will basically cut in half initially, so the difficulty on mining this coin is very key to longer term profits for the larger miners...
have a list of all the coins, then rules next to them
Ex:
Skunk - Signatum - Active if difficulty below XXXXX, mining weight xxxx
Equihash - Zen - Active if difficulty below XXXXXX, mining weight xxxx
So basically if the difficulty for that current mined block is below the rules amount, it would place it on a list to mine, then based off the few that make it on that list we could then use the mining weight assigned on a scale of 1 to maybe 100 to determine which one to mine on that smaller list....
What this would do is allow the larger miners who mine coins directly without auto conversion to mine them at the most efficient rates they can since difficulty plays a large role in this... with the goal of exchanging them later when they are more profitable. The mining weight variables would put it on the user to weight which coins they would prefer to mine over others if the difficulty level drops down low enough to be worth mining.
I do agree that those running large scale mining operations typically don't use the normal profit switcher, as they typically do more analysis of what is profitable long term. That is also the reason why it took quite some time before Awesome Miner got a decent profit switcher built in - it was simply not a priority by those with larger number of miners. As I stated in my previous post, it's more common to use custom C# scripting for some of these users. I assume that some customers already today are creating scripts with the kind of forward thinking you do above. You are making good points in your post above, and it's good input for me to improve Awesome Miner. I know that custom C# scripting isn't for everyone and there can be more user friendly ways that Awesome Miner can support the scenarios you describe above. |
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Awesome Miner is not using the individual json files for each coin, because that would be too much hardcoding in Awesome Miner and too many requests sent to the WhatToMine web server.
I'm currently working with the author of WhatToMine to get more coins from the standard coins.json API or similar from WhatToMine. This is really the best solution, because I want any coin that is getting added to WhatToMine to automatically show up in Awesome Miner. That concept works already today, but the WhatToMine coins-API doesn't include some of the new coins.
This is why i think it would be better to create a template design similar to the way you added the ability to add new algos to online services. Literally every website whattomine, coinmarketcap, etc... all those websites are pulling data from the coin explorers... i dont see why we cant just pull the data from the coin explorers for each individual coin. The amount of data being transferred from a json request is very minimal honestly. This would reduce the requirement to pull all this data from whattomine. Example: SIGT Add a 4th option under the "optional section" Labeled: Json Profitability Calculator Properties JSON URL: Then add the ability to dictate within the data the values are found, maybe add a pull data button, which would pull in data and dynamically fill in empty boxes with data detected after each comma, then check the parts the data is found in and assign it to difficulty, block reward, and price.... idk maybe it would be easier to just had a preprogrammed option with just the whattomine json format already formatted, all the user does is add the new coin json url and it populates the rest.... You could set this as an non default option so the users can do it when new coins come out if they are dedicated to mining enough update it daily like this on new coins. Good point. But for WhatToMine, if the author is adding all coins automatically to the combined coins.json file requested by Awesome Miner, there isn't much need to specify individual coin files from WhatToMine. It's only right now before that's in place on WhatToMine it could make sense. For other statistics sources out there like coin explorers, they all provide slightly different API's so there is no single standard here, making it difficult to have generic support for it in Awesome Miner. Your suggestion to define rules for JSON processing is however taking care of that scenario, so that idea is for sure something I will consider. Thanks! What some of the larger customers of Awesome Miner is doing is to write their own C# scripts inside Awesome Miner, where they pull JSON data from whatever sources they want, process it and then using the C# scripting API in Awesome Miner to update the coin profitability statistics. This is for sure more complex, but it gives full flexibility and can support any data source out there, do any calculations and also combine data from multiple sources into a single coin. Maybe multiple JSON requests should be used to update different aspects of a coin, because block explorers give some information, while you need exchange data for others. |
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This is a little confusing to
Awesome Miner will not change the pools at all for the External Profit Switching feature does that mean if say i have three pools set up on the External miner it will ignore them or leave them a lone and only use what i have set up in AM ? . if that's how AM works with External's or does AM only use what's set up in the External miner software, if i have switching enabled and then it can mean: whatever pools are set up on that External miner won't change but AM will change to them to use them ? . if that's the case how does AM know when to switch, is that a set able option some place and kind of why i asked "then follow setting up a managed miner for switching for the pools".I'm sure i didn't ask in the right order but you usually understand and ask directly with the right question  . The External Profit Switcher is really intended for ASIC miners like Antminers and similar. If you have GPU systems, you should run them as Managed Miners with the Managed Profit Switcher. Awesome Miner will not add new pools or remove pools from your miner when using the External Profit Switcher. If you have 3 pools defined, those will still be there all the time, even when the profit switcher is operating. So what the profit switcher is doing is "Operates by changing priorities of existing pools of an already running External Miner". Most ASIC's, including Antminers and some mining software supports this priority operations. Awesome Miner will simply instruct the miner to prioritize the one of the three pools that has the highest profitability. The pool priority order might look like this from the beginning: LitecoinPool, Nicehash Scrypt, zpool Scrypt. After the profit switcher executed and figured out that Nicehash was better, it will send Pool Priority command to the miner and instruct it to use the following priority: Nicehash Scrypt, zpool Scrypt, LitecoinPool. As you can see, no change to the pools (none added, none removed). Just a change of priorities. The The External Profit Switcher is really intended for ASIC miners like Antminers and similar. both my ASIC Scrpt miners are similar in that one uses BFG 5.42 one uses CGMINER 3.9 that does support priority operations SO i need three pools at least of three Different coins ? . that still really doesn't explain how to get to work . do i need to do any thing to the default profile ? . can i make my own profile or should I ? . SO make sure i have three pools set up and turn on the profit switching profile for the External miner and leave it set to default and that's it ? . and pretty much all it does is pick the most profitable one at start up uses that pools and stays there from the pools set up in on the External miner . cool .. Yes it's mainly for ASIC's and yes you should have at least 2 or 3 pools to have something to switch between. If you have an Antminer for example, it only supports a single algorithm so no need to use Profit profiles to specify hashrates. How to get it to work is still only to check the checkbox "Enable with profile" and leave it at default profile in the External Miner Properties. i was looking for some thing like the proxy i linked were i can set each pool on it's own timer , I was hoping AM could do that without the proxy or switch to AM own pool group with timers on each pool like the proxy does but without a proxy if that's makes sense. . like Pool one is 90 mins the pools 2 is 90 then pools is 3 90 mins then once that's done it starts the process again and ofc that really only makes any thing if the pool is PPS or the pools can be set to PPS . you might think that won't make any thing but it does as long as the pools are PPS . the reason i asked without the proxy is the proxy seems to not work right at times or slows down over time . but im sure that is because of a lack updates to that proxy software . and if AM can use it owns pools groups but not effect the miner like the proxy does I'll bet more would love it .. how i join the proxy is use a address some thing like stratum+tcp://192.168.1.206:3333 on the miner then the proxy does the rest and uses the pool group I set up with the proxy . the miner all ways stays on stratum+tcp://192.168.1.206:3333 while the proxy points to each pools timer . cool if am can't do that and i don't blame you for not offering that for External miner it seems like that might be a lot of work to put in but when you offer that cloud thing i saw a few pages back i might bug you then and id even pay a monthly fee as long as it's reason able because i know the updates won't stop.
Those kind of proxy features at not available in Awesome Miner AM Still sees my NV CARD As a AMD CARD if I mix cards , i said some thing about a while back to fix it, i don't mix cards .
Was this on the Systems tab for a Managed Miner you could see AMD, while you had nVidia GPU's only? |
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