No reason to double data from coins to calculators. This is just to list all coins https://whattomine.com/calculators.jsonAs stated in previous post I will try to add the rest of popular algos to `coins.json` soon. Perfect - thanks! |
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For WhatToMine.com and Coinwarz.com, there are no hardcoded coins in Awesome Miner. It uses the coins API of these services to get all available coins. The drawback is that several of the new coins that are listed here: http://whattomine.com/calculatorsare not returned by the WhatToMine API. I've contacted the author of WhatToMine about this to find a solution for it. As soon as they are returned by WhatToMine, they will appear in Awesome Miner. Is AM using an API call to whattomine that returns all the coins together but without several newer coins? Because if you click on any of these newer coins on the link you post above and add .json to the url you do get the info. Like this one for example: http://http://whattomine.com/coins/65-adn-scrypt-og.jsonAnd the url for each of the coins seem to be standardized so that the symbol is always between the first and the second dash There is also currently this issue: If you try to add a coin to a pool and that coin can be mined with a few different algos AM will only list the coin under just one of the algos which is not necessarily the most profitable one. That makes profit switching incorrect for that coin. The page you mentioned above ( http://whattomine.com/calculators) lists those multi-algo coins as separate coins with different diffculties and different profitabilities. This one for example: http://whattomine.com/coins/115-dgb-qubithttp://whattomine.com/coins/114-dgb-skeinhttp://whattomine.com/coins/112-dgb-myriad-groestlhttp://whattomine.com/coins/113-dgb-sha-256It would be great if we can get these multi-algo coins listed under each one of their algos Awesome Miner is not using the individual json files for each coin, because that would be too much hardcoding in Awesome Miner and too many requests sent to the WhatToMine web server. I'm currently working with the author of WhatToMine to get more coins from the standard coins.json API or similar from WhatToMine. This is really the best solution, because I want any coin that is getting added to WhatToMine to automatically show up in Awesome Miner. That concept works already today, but the WhatToMine coins-API doesn't include some of the new coins. |
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Another small improvement in the next development release:  The coins at the bottom can be changed |
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This is a little confusing to
Awesome Miner will not change the pools at all for the External Profit Switching feature does that mean if say i have three pools set up on the External miner it will ignore them or leave them a lone and only use what i have set up in AM ? . if that's how AM works with External's or does AM only use what's set up in the External miner software, if i have switching enabled and then it can mean: whatever pools are set up on that External miner won't change but AM will change to them to use them ? . if that's the case how does AM know when to switch, is that a set able option some place and kind of why i asked "then follow setting up a managed miner for switching for the pools".I'm sure i didn't ask in the right order but you usually understand and ask directly with the right question  . The External Profit Switcher is really intended for ASIC miners like Antminers and similar. If you have GPU systems, you should run them as Managed Miners with the Managed Profit Switcher. Awesome Miner will not add new pools or remove pools from your miner when using the External Profit Switcher. If you have 3 pools defined, those will still be there all the time, even when the profit switcher is operating. So what the profit switcher is doing is "Operates by changing priorities of existing pools of an already running External Miner". Most ASIC's, including Antminers and some mining software supports this priority operations. Awesome Miner will simply instruct the miner to prioritize the one of the three pools that has the highest profitability. The pool priority order might look like this from the beginning: LitecoinPool, Nicehash Scrypt, zpool Scrypt. After the profit switcher executed and figured out that Nicehash was better, it will send Pool Priority command to the miner and instruct it to use the following priority: Nicehash Scrypt, zpool Scrypt, LitecoinPool. As you can see, no change to the pools (none added, none removed). Just a change of priorities. |
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i have read it for several times, but stil can't understand anything.
Maybe you can make a tutorial for external miners?
Trying to get it for few days, and I'm stuck.
The same. I have understand profit switcher with GPU but not with an ASIC. For example, we need to add a new Profit Profile for Antminer L3+ with only scrypt algo and speed to work or default profile work good ? I can see if I can improve the instructions for this, but from a configuration point of view, it's really only one single setting that needs to be enabled, and that's the one you have in the guide already: http://www.awesomeminer.com/help/profitswitching.aspx#awesomeprofitLet's say you have an Antminer L3+ that do scrypt mining, and that we assume you already have 3 pools added to this miner. So when you go to the Pools tab in the main window of Awesome Miner, you will see your 3 pools. If you only have one, make sure you add more. There is no automatic step to just enter a bitcoin address as for the Managed Profit Switcher, instead you need to add your own pools with URL's and worker names. Example of pools can be a Litecoin pool, the Nicehash Scrypt pool and the zpool Scrypt pool. Once you have some pools defined for a miner, and you have activated the profit switcher for the External Miner according to the single step described on the link above, the profit switcher will be working. It will calculate the profitability of all the pools of the External Miner and instruct the Antminer to prioritize the pool with the highest profitability. For this feature to work, and also to make changes to the pools from Awesome Miner, the Antminers must run in privileged API mode. Please let me know more details on where you got stuck in getting this feature to work. (Edit: See my post below as well) |
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Awesome Miner profit mining really needs benchmark adjustments. When my rig is mining ETH solely using claymore I get 84 MH/s. When it is mining ETH+SC I get only 56 MH/s ETH. There is no way the 1670 MH/s SC compensates for a loss of nearly 30 MH/s ETH. Awesome Miner needs to consider the actual performance on single algos and performance for each combination of dual algos for each a rig to determine what is better profit. MPM out performs AM in this respect because it applies combination benchmark results to determine which is combination is higher profit.
For now I need to completely disable dual coin profit mining. How do I do that?
Benchmarking and improvements to the profit switcher are on the list of features to implement. To disable dual mining in the Claymore miner, you can provide the command line parameter "-mode 1". To do this for the profit switcher, go to Options dialog, Profit profile section, edit your profile, select the Claymore Ethereum miner and click configure. Add the command line parameter here. So I get that "-mode 1" overrides Claymore so that it only does ethash even if it gets parameters for dual. But if I add "-mode 1" will Awesome Miner also know to stop comparing the BTC/Day for the various dual options so that it won't try to switch to dual? If it does try to switch to dual, then al lit is doing is switching to potentially a less profitable pool than it was already in. What I've done now is to implement support for specifying dual mining hashrates in addition to the standard hashrates. I've updated the profit switcher to both consider Ethereum and all other coins with standard hashrates, then calculate if dual mining hashrate of Ethereum plus any of the dual mining hashrates of the 4 secondary coins gives higher profitability. With these changes, I think your initial request has been covered. The implementation will be part of the next development release that is expected to be available within the next few days. |
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Many thanks! I did find your PM now as well. Will the calculations.json include the same information as coins.json or the individual json files, like block time, difficulty, reward and exchange rate? I would prefer not to make calls to each individual json file for the coins, because that will just put load on your server. |
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Here is a little preview of what will be included in the next development release. As in the previous development release, you will be able to add your own algorithms that's new on zpool for example. Now you can also add your own Managed Software and specify that it has full compatibility with any supported software, but with a different set of algorithms. In the example below, I've defined a custom CcMiner 2.2, which includes other algorithms than CcMiner 2.1, but is defined to be fully compatible with CcMiner in all other aspects.  In the second screenshot, I've included the custom CcMiner 2.2 to the profit switcher, and put it on top to indicate that if an algorithm is supported by both CcMiner 2.2 and 2.1, it will pick the software for 2.2.  With these changes, the profit switcher becomes more flexible. The Managed Software concept can of course be used without the profit switching feature as well, and will allow you to define multiple versions of CcMiner and other mining software. You can also defined Managed Software to run in API Compatibility Mode instead of Full Compatibility Mode. In API mode, you will have to define all command lines yourself - Awesome Miner will do nothing for you. The idea is to support full customization, but still get monitoring information about hashrates and so on. Like a Generic Miner in terms of flexibility, but with monitoring and statistics available. |
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Not sure if i've missed this in the thread but is there a walkthrough of;
a) adding a customer miner e.g. ccminer 2.2
b) adding a new algo to profit switching using said custom miner
Cheers, apologies if i've missed it.
a) If it's not a profit switching scenario: If you open the properties of your Managed Miner, you will see that Automatic download is enabled by default. In this scenario, Awesome Miner will download and setup the mining software for you, in this case ccminer 2.1. If you change to Specify Path manually instead, you can point to your ccminer 2.2 executable instead, and Awesome Miner will use this one. If you need to do this on multiple computers, you can also use this feature to push the ccminer 2.2 software to all of them: http://awesomeminer.com/help/uploadsoftware.aspxb) For profit switching scenario: Instead of configuring each Managed Miner like this, you define similar settings for you Profit profile. Go to Options dialog, Profit profile section, modify the profile you use, for example nVidia GPU, select ccminer and click Configure. Now you have the same option to change from Automatic download to specifying your own software path where you can point to another version of ccminer. After having tried hard to do this for a while here is my understanding: You can add a custom miner and you can add a custom algo, however using them for profit switching with a custom coin is not possible. Adding a new algo is not useful for profit switching because any custom coin that goes with the new algo does not update its difficulty/price/block_reward One possibility is profit switching (among hardcoded coins only) by replacing the original ccminer with a custom ccminer, but then you have totally lost the use of the original ccminer for all algos. So your new ccminer better be superior to the original ccminer for all the coins you're mining So yes custom miner/algo/coins are possible but if your goal is to input a new coin, enter the hash rate of the new algo, point it to a custom ccminer and have it in the profit switching mix you can't do it. Would that be correct Patrike? please confirm. Another issue is, even if you're OK with using the custom ccminer for all coins and you're OK with manually updating difficulty/price/block_reward for the new coin regularly, it is still not useful for profit switching because you may only specify one global hash rate for the new algo for all your rigs. So assuming your rigs are not identical, the hash rate will be incorrect for all but one rig. Therefore profit switching that new coin, even with the above restrictions, would be pointless for more than one rig. I've made some improvements in this area in the development version 3.2.1. See the following post for more details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=676942.msg20341208#msg20341208With the new version, you can add your own algorithms, and then add it for zpool and you will get profitability information. However, if you add a new coin that Awesome Miner cannot find, you will not get any automatic profit information. The concept you describe about having support for multiple versions of ccminer for the profit switcher is the next step for me to implement. This has been requested a lot recently. Great, I appreciate your effort to address these issues. I'm using 3.2.1 and it has good improvements but having to use zpool to get coin info is not ideal for various reasons, also zpool does not cover most coins. Its not really zpool that the software is getting the info from, its whattomine that most of it is pulled from, so the limitations fall on the use of that website as the source data. I hope the dev adds the ability to add new coins in the future and give us the ability to add our own api url links for the data being pulled for the coins. This would allow massive customization on being able to add new coins and maintain a good correct profit number, because there is are dozens of websites to pull these api sources from on the day of release for each coin.. The method that Patrike prosposed above for profit switching would require zpool to pull the info (by using "unspecified xx algo" as the coin) If you wanted to use whattomine (that has many times the number of zpool coins) you cannot currently add any of their covered coins that are not already hard coded in AM for profit switching as of 3.2.1 But I definitely agree it would be a great improvement to have option to add coins through api url or at least start by allowing all current whattomine coins to be recognized For WhatToMine.com and Coinwarz.com, there are no hardcoded coins in Awesome Miner. It uses the coins API of these services to get all available coins. The drawback is that several of the new coins that are listed here: http://whattomine.com/calculatorsare not returned by the WhatToMine API. I've contacted the author of WhatToMine about this to find a solution for it. As soon as they are returned by WhatToMine, they will appear in Awesome Miner. |
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Hi, guys, can somebody tell me, how to configure automatic switching from one of predefined pools (GAME, Litecoin, DGB) to another based on current coin profit? Im talking about Asic L3+.
Hello, I have the same question. I don't understand how work profit switching with ASIC. We need to configure pools like zpool or nicehash in ASIC and it switch automatically on the best coin ? Or it change automatically the priority pool ? Thanks. Hi, External Profit Switching- Operates by changing priorities of existing pools of an already running External Miner - Works with many kinds of mining software, but will not change the mining software being used - Automatically switch between multiple algorithms, online services like NiceHash and single coin pools So the idea is that you manually need to make sure that the miners has a couple of pools defined, with different coins. Awesome Miner will then change priorities of the pools to ensure highest profit. Awesome Miner will not change the pools at all for the External Profit Switching feature (in contrast to how the Managed Profit Switcher works) See the help page for details on how to enable it on an External Miner: http://www.awesomeminer.com/help/profitswitching.aspx |
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Hi, Is there a way to get all coins in a one or two API request? This one gives many, be doesn't includes coins with skein or skunkhash algorithms for example: http://whattomine.com/coins.jsonIf I know the short name for all algorithms, I could add all of them in a request like this: http://whattomine.com/coins.json?&factor[sk_hr]=xxx&sk=true&factor[sk_p]=xxx If Skein is "sk", how to specify other algorithms, for example skunkhash? Many thanks for a great site! |
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I bought the software for 500 miners and works very well.
For now we have antminers for BTC and in a few weeks LTC/X11.-
The rigs for altcoins also works very well, with the nvidia 10xx series and the radeon RX series.-
Thanks!!
Thanks for the feedback. Great to learn about successful deployments of Awesome Miner in larger mining operations. |
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Just a heads up. A small "bug" shows the Antminer R1-LTC as performing 1.2GH/s vs the reality of MH/s. The firmware is using its custom cgminer 4.8.0   This bug is actually in the Antminers themselves. Both L3 and L3+ is reporting GH/s when it's actually MH/s. Awesome Miner detects that it's L3/L3+ and compensates for this. So when you use L3/L3+, it looks fine in Awesome Miner. Now with R1-LTC it's probably the same thing, the Antminers report incorrectly and Awesome Miner needs to compensate. Could you send me the API report for one of these miners (toolbar: Tools -> API Report), and I will be able to see the name of this miner. Then I can add a rule to compensate the hashrate on this one as well. Sent PM APIREPORT. Sorry, I hit send before adding a subject line. My apologies Thanks for the API report. I've made a small change to support this in the next release. |
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Not sure if i've missed this in the thread but is there a walkthrough of;
a) adding a customer miner e.g. ccminer 2.2
b) adding a new algo to profit switching using said custom miner
Cheers, apologies if i've missed it.
a) If it's not a profit switching scenario: If you open the properties of your Managed Miner, you will see that Automatic download is enabled by default. In this scenario, Awesome Miner will download and setup the mining software for you, in this case ccminer 2.1. If you change to Specify Path manually instead, you can point to your ccminer 2.2 executable instead, and Awesome Miner will use this one. If you need to do this on multiple computers, you can also use this feature to push the ccminer 2.2 software to all of them: http://awesomeminer.com/help/uploadsoftware.aspxb) For profit switching scenario: Instead of configuring each Managed Miner like this, you define similar settings for you Profit profile. Go to Options dialog, Profit profile section, modify the profile you use, for example nVidia GPU, select ccminer and click Configure. Now you have the same option to change from Automatic download to specifying your own software path where you can point to another version of ccminer. After having tried hard to do this for a while here is my understanding: You can add a custom miner and you can add a custom algo, however using them for profit switching with a custom coin is not possible. Adding a new algo is not useful for profit switching because any custom coin that goes with the new algo does not update its difficulty/price/block_reward One possibility is profit switching (among hardcoded coins only) by replacing the original ccminer with a custom ccminer, but then you have totally lost the use of the original ccminer for all algos. So your new ccminer better be superior to the original ccminer for all the coins you're mining So yes custom miner/algo/coins are possible but if your goal is to input a new coin, enter the hash rate of the new algo, point it to a custom ccminer and have it in the profit switching mix you can't do it. Would that be correct Patrike? please confirm. Another issue is, even if you're OK with using the custom ccminer for all coins and you're OK with manually updating difficulty/price/block_reward for the new coin regularly, it is still not useful for profit switching because you may only specify one global hash rate for the new algo for all your rigs. So assuming your rigs are not identical, the hash rate will be incorrect for all but one rig. Therefore profit switching that new coin, even with the above restrictions, would be pointless for more than one rig. I've made some improvements in this area in the development version 3.2.1. See the following post for more details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=676942.msg20341208#msg20341208With the new version, you can add your own algorithms, and then add it for zpool and you will get profitability information. However, if you add a new coin that Awesome Miner cannot find, you will not get any automatic profit information. The concept you describe about having support for multiple versions of ccminer for the profit switcher is the next step for me to implement. This has been requested a lot recently. |
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Sorry if this info it's already out there, i couldn't find it.
How to deal with different Overclock configurations by algos for auto-switch with Nvidia cards (also amd)?
Except for few ones, they are totally different and no adjustment would ruin the performance for every coin.
This feature is not supported, but has been requested before and makes perfect sense to add. Awesome Miner can do overclocking, but not as part of changing algorithm or pool. Some mining software like sgminer and Claymore can do this via command line or by using Device Profiles in Awesome Miner. |
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Not sure if i've missed this in the thread but is there a walkthrough of;
a) adding a customer miner e.g. ccminer 2.2
b) adding a new algo to profit switching using said custom miner
Cheers, apologies if i've missed it.
a) If it's not a profit switching scenario: If you open the properties of your Managed Miner, you will see that Automatic download is enabled by default. In this scenario, Awesome Miner will download and setup the mining software for you, in this case ccminer 2.1. If you change to Specify Path manually instead, you can point to your ccminer 2.2 executable instead, and Awesome Miner will use this one. If you need to do this on multiple computers, you can also use this feature to push the ccminer 2.2 software to all of them: http://awesomeminer.com/help/uploadsoftware.aspxb) For profit switching scenario: Instead of configuring each Managed Miner like this, you define similar settings for you Profit profile. Go to Options dialog, Profit profile section, modify the profile you use, for example nVidia GPU, select ccminer and click Configure. Now you have the same option to change from Automatic download to specifying your own software path where you can point to another version of ccminer. |
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Just a heads up. A small "bug" shows the Antminer R1-LTC as performing 1.2GH/s vs the reality of MH/s. The firmware is using its custom cgminer 4.8.0 This bug is actually in the Antminers themselves. Both L3 and L3+ is reporting GH/s when it's actually MH/s. Awesome Miner detects that it's L3/L3+ and compensates for this. So when you use L3/L3+, it looks fine in Awesome Miner. Now with R1-LTC it's probably the same thing, the Antminers report incorrectly and Awesome Miner needs to compensate. Could you send me the API report for one of these miners (toolbar: Tools -> API Report), and I will be able to see the name of this miner. Then I can add a rule to compensate the hashrate on this one as well. |
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Quick Question:
Should I be entering my own hashrates into the algorithms section for better profit or using the default values? Thanks!
You should enter your hashrates to get better tuned profit switcher. You can also use the Save Hashrate operation in the right-click menu when you are mining to update the hashrate for a specific algorithm. |
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Thanks bud, that actually fixed the issue and its up and running, now to move onto the next issue ill run into lol... tell you learn its all a mystery
Do you know if there is a way to add additional pools under online services?
Also, is their an ability to manually add the api for coin info? like i tried to add Signatum, i can manually add the values... but then i have to keep updating it manually....
Online services: they seems to be hardcoded, I found no way to add a new service. Api coin info: AM already checks whattomine to get coin statistics, I don't know if it uses WTM also for custom coins (SIGT is available at WTM). For revenue calculations, AM can get statistics from pool, but again I don't know if it works also for custom coins, I never tried, sorry. This has been addressed in development version 3.2.1 where you can add new algorithms and online services as you want. For example the new skunk algorithm on zpool. However, don't try to add the coin Signatum as a user defined coin, because it's not included in the API from WhatToMine.com yet (but it's listed on their web site if you go to coins tab). Instead, when you create the pool, define the coin as "Unspecified skunk" based on the new algorithm. Awesome Miner should be able to figure out the profit information based on this. Unfortunately, if you add "unspecified skunk" and use suprnova pool, Awesome Miner isn't able to calculate any profit. May we have also suprnova in online services? It would be great. The concept of "Unspecified skunk" was intended if you add a new pool in Online services for zpool. If "Unspecified" as coin and you use pools from Nicehash/zpool/MiningPoolHub, Awesome Miner will be able to figure out the profits from the API's of these pools, as they are multi-coin. If you mine a single coin pool, using "Unspecified" will not give you any profit details as Awesome Miner is not aware of what coin is being mined. For many popular coins listed on WhatToMine, Awesome Miner can get the coin statistics. I'm also in the process of improving this, as some new coins are not listed from the WhatToMine main API, but will require some extra requests to get. |
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Has anyone gotten the remote managed miners to work?
I installed Awesome Miner Remote v3.2 on all my rigs, then i went under network scan and found them all under detect via Awesome Miner Remote and setup the same settings as i do mining the software directly on the Awesome Miner software and then press start..... nothing happens on any of the machines.. the buttons across the top go greyed out all except reboot..... so i seem to be stuck at this point... I have rebooted them, press start again and nothing but greying out the buttons occurs.....
So i added all my rigs under me using network scan again, but using detect via ccminer, this works perfectly if im mining on these rigs with my old batch file method, but if i setup the pool and miner in the awesome miner software and run the exact same ccminer as my old batch file uses, it starts up and starts mining on the pool, but the awesome miner computer (my pc in the house) says disconnect... but if i stop mining on awesome miner, start the old batch miner up they come online via the pc im trying to monitor them from...
I still am trying to figure out how to setup port forward on the 2 remote locations i have my other rigs located, it seems to be an issue with the modems being used, because using an online port checker shows the ports still blocked even tho in modem im setting them up to port forward..... sigh
The fact that the version is listed in the status column indicates that there are different version on Awesome Miner main application and the Remote Agent. Could it be that you run v3.2.1 on the main application and 3.2 on the Remote Agent? If that's the case, I recommend to upgrade the Remote Agent to the same version before trying anything else. Hey patrike, I just checked the website, the version of awesome miner remote is the latest available, inside the software there is no updates coming up when checking for updates. Maybe v3.2.1 has not been published? Im currently running v3.2.1 main software and remote v3.2 Hi, The web site is only listing the public releases, not the development versions like 3.2.1. To upgrade your remote systems to latest Remote Agent software, you can either select the miner in the Awesome Miner main window, and click the Upgrade button. An alternative, if you need access to the installer software to manually install it on the remote computers, you can use this link: www.awesomeminer.com/download/setupdev/AwesomeMinerRemoteService.msi |
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