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661  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: October 30, 2014, 05:55:12 AM
Triangles are terminal moves, it is a rule that has never failed me.

Well then you are clearly new to Bitcoin.  In past ramps up, there has been triangle after triangle all breaking to the upside for months without terminating the trend.  Maybe that has changed now that the market is much larger, but I'd be careful having such certainty about any pattern.

the demands of ew triangles are different to those simple wedges you are referring to. I am not new to bitcoin.

Then can you please enlighten me as to what the difference is between a wedge and an "ew triangle"?

an ew triangle is a five wave structure, not a three wave structure (like a simple wedge) that must be composed of non impulsive abc's. at least two of the up or down waves within an EW triangle are of the proportion 1/0.618.
662  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: October 30, 2014, 04:41:38 AM
I am not trolling, but so far what I've understood about EW is that it takes insane amount of work, and in the end it's never right. Ever....

So I ask you this, why still use it? MACD+RSI and some chart patterns seem to work infinitely better than this.

Elliot wave is closely tied to irrational behaviour of the crowd. it is no secret that sentiment is the best historical edge a trader can have in predicting price action. Macd or rsi are not linked to sentiment or irrational behaviour. using our understanding of fibonacci ratios and how they must occur in all complex systems we can describe in detail likely pathways that the market may take from any given point, this helps us seamlessly adapt to and understand changes in the market. Unlike the macd or rsi elliot wave is a leading indicator, not a lagging indicator. this is critical in a system where buying low and selling high is a key philosophy.

I must disagree that macd and, rsi or any arbitrary pattern work better than EW analysis. I know first hand that it is a very rewarding area of study.
663  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: October 30, 2014, 04:32:48 AM
Now wave iv seems complete, we can estimate a more accurate level for wave v. a bit lower than before, lets say 2040-2030.

We will have a reaction from this point. very possibly it will be the bottom, but there is just one chance that this is not over yet. see the highlighted circle. I think that is wave f-g of the extended trianlge. It could be wave i-ii. this means what we are seeing here is wave (v) of iii,

wave (iv) would top within wave ((iv)) so this is a breakout set up. At this point I suggest going long on a breakout through 2090 is a good strategy, or you could try cautiously to pick the bottom of wave (iii) if you are an active trader. you will need to place your stop under 2018 and accept it is a fairly risky trade.



The ambiguity raised here about wave i-ii is relevant now that we appear to be scratching out new lows. The count is behaving naturally so I expect this price action to be capped to 0.618 of hypothetical wave (iii)  which is a powerful number 2000. we realistically shouldnot get close to this but we should plan our trade accordingly. If you buy here you should feel comfortable with price action up to that point remembering that this is a long term position.
664  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: October 30, 2014, 04:25:54 AM
in hindsight to your first few posts you seem to be getting it wrong every time... I would keep trying but I think EW analysis is flawed unless you add in other external factors.

You need to look closer and read more carefully. I have been having much success.
ok i promise to look again

I looked as promise... seems counts are good but timing is off... great job with the counts.. seems to pay to follow the larger counts because they seem to be following.. and the lower tf counts can act as good areas of interest to long. I will continue to follow quietly.

thanks mate, hope you find it helpful in times to come.
665  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: October 30, 2014, 01:14:11 AM
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Hi, I am interested in your thread and taking it on board. To be honest it doesnt help that its in Yen as opposed to dollars as I am guessing most people on here relate to dollars therefore they have to do some mental conversion.

Once we get past that then I am struggling to get a grasp on your views/opinions.

It would be a lot easier for a simpleton like me if you were to add a footnote for dummies along the lines of

Well, we are in a bit of a no mans land today.. from a $440 position it may go up or down... Should it drop below $325 its a good buy as the graph extrapolation suggests it will rebound. On the other hand it may rise but it really need to break $370 to suggest we are enterring into a bull market..

That would be simple and really help me but, as its your post then i fully understand if you cant be arsed

Ta


The chines market and charts are more liquid. they make for far superior analysis. This is why I will nearly always chart the yuan, sorry. I will try give USD values for bitstamp and bfx when it is important but otherwise you need to look at the charts yourself and see the critical levels as they appear on the chinese charts.

EW can not be trusted on BFX charts. Due to leveraged trading, traders are able to trade a higher volume than they otherwise could elsewhere. This allows the chart to be painted with amplified movements that invalidate otherwise good counts. Not that this is always the case, but it's far too easy to have this happen.

Thanks Ryan,
and this is why I have to specify different levels for trading on BFX. I dont like having to do this for the smaller counts. there is a good reason why I left BFX for OKcoin.
666  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: October 30, 2014, 12:43:09 AM
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Hi, I am interested in your thread and taking it on board. To be honest it doesnt help that its in Yen as opposed to dollars as I am guessing most people on here relate to dollars therefore they have to do some mental conversion.

Once we get past that then I am struggling to get a grasp on your views/opinions.

It would be a lot easier for a simpleton like me if you were to add a footnote for dummies along the lines of

Well, we are in a bit of a no mans land today.. from a $440 position it may go up or down... Should it drop below $325 its a good buy as the graph extrapolation suggests it will rebound. On the other hand it may rise but it really need to break $370 to suggest we are enterring into a bull market..

That would be simple and really help me but, as its your post then i fully understand if you cant be arsed

Ta


The chines market and charts are more liquid. they make for far superior analysis. This is why I will nearly always chart the yuan, sorry. I will try give USD values for bitstamp and bfx when it is important but otherwise you need to look at the charts yourself and see the critical levels as they appear on the chinese charts.
667  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: October 29, 2014, 10:52:42 PM
Looking at the 1m charts (yes, I know...) it seems as though wave v is done. Now the test..... 2090. if we break 2090 then buy the breakout, stoploss local lows. if we see weakness in that area, expect a drop to test lows and buy a weak fall there. no more shorting! close your shorts!

Is the end point of wave v same as the end point of wave b in the older post (below)? Or is that count valid anymore? To me it seems quite spot on! But then again, I may be missing something.


The dominant B wave forecast is playing out well, here is an updated chart of the larger wave C wave we have been tracking.






Nope that scribble was a bit shallower than this wave b, by about 100 yuan. but looks about right. It is still a valid count.  Smiley
668  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: October 29, 2014, 10:24:35 PM
Looking at the 1m charts (yes, I know...) it seems as though wave v is done. Now the test..... 2090. if we break 2090 then buy the breakout, stoploss local lows. if we see weakness in that area, expect a drop to test lows and buy a weak fall there. no more shorting! close your shorts!
669  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: October 29, 2014, 09:13:15 PM
Now wave iv seems complete, we can estimate a more accurate level for wave v. a bit lower than before, lets say 2040-2030.

We will have a reaction from this point. very possibly it will be the bottom, but there is just one chance that this is not over yet. see the highlighted circle. I think that is wave f-g of the extended trianlge. It could be wave i-ii. this means what we are seeing here is wave (v) of iii,

wave (iv) would top within wave ((iv)) so this is a breakout set up. At this point I suggest going long on a breakout through 2090 is a good strategy, or you could try cautiously to pick the bottom of wave (iii) if you are an active trader. you will need to place your stop under 2018 and accept it is a fairly risky trade.

670  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: October 29, 2014, 05:55:54 PM
good morning. We have had the crunch in volume, this is typical of wave (iii) of iii, the eye of the storm. this means we are probably now closer to the bottom of v than the top. Our profit target is now a sober 2050 or so, not so low as allowed (1970)

671  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: October 29, 2014, 05:46:56 PM
Triangles are terminal moves, it is a rule that has never failed me.

Well then you are clearly new to Bitcoin.  In past ramps up, there has been triangle after triangle all breaking to the upside for months without terminating the trend.  Maybe that has changed now that the market is much larger, but I'd be careful having such certainty about any pattern.

the demands of ew triangles are different to those simple wedges you are referring to. I am not new to bitcoin.
672  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: October 29, 2014, 01:48:13 PM
Moving our stops down to 2130 in china or around 349 in the west.
673  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: October 29, 2014, 12:38:44 PM
If we break local lows and this wave v gets rolling, we can expect to find a bottom in a fairly short amount of time. Ill be tracking the waves live. This bottom is worth trying to pick out because we have a very strong count. Triangles are terminal moves, it is a rule that has never failed me. I will track the waves and we might be presented with a leading signal, or a breakout signal at the bottom to buy. Targets are 320ish in the west (profit target, not buy target!) and 2020ish in china.


I am not sure to get this. You mean 320 is a target to buy to close short trades, but it is not good to buy for a long trade ?

yeah you see the difference is that when we open a margin long we are exposing ourselves to risk of margin call. When we close a short there is no such risk. at the very bottom we usually dont have enough evidence to take this kind of risk. there is a very small chance that is not worth taking that we will get margin called straight away in the volatility and lose everything. Best to wait for hard evidence of the bottom before opening a margin position. Note that I very rarely try to pick bottoms to open margin long unless I have a strong count and a strong bigger picture. Closing margin positions however.... its worth picking the tops and bottoms for those because we can take the small risk of missing out on a few dollars of profit, take the quick, easy money, and save ourselves the time and stress of chasing corrections. It has also got to do with your mentality. when you are in profit, you are calm and will make good decisions. Picking the bottom to open margin long is VERY BALLSY and requires more practise.
674  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: October 29, 2014, 10:43:12 AM
If we break local lows and this wave v gets rolling, we can expect to find a bottom in a fairly short amount of time. Ill be tracking the waves live. This bottom is worth trying to pick out because we have a very strong count. Triangles are terminal moves, it is a rule that has never failed me. I will track the waves and we might be presented with a leading signal, or a breakout signal at the bottom to buy. Targets are 320ish in the west (profit target, not buy target!) and 2020ish in china.

675  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: October 29, 2014, 07:22:22 AM
The triangle is playing out to the downside. This means we will likely have a great buy in the low 20xx range.

No, we have a C of IV to play out first. Then we can buy back in the 200s. We aren't going straight there. And its going to take another 3-5 weeks for this IV to play out anyway.

No reason to assume that the market is in any rush to complete these waves.

you are confused, Im tracking termination of c(B) not C. 20xx not 20x.
676  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: October 29, 2014, 02:43:05 AM
The triangle is playing out to the downside. This means we will likely have a great buy in the low 20xx range.
677  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: October 29, 2014, 12:49:51 AM
Having said that, Im going to stop with the scalping. A thread is not much good when adapting to market changes needs to be seamless.
678  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: October 29, 2014, 12:43:29 AM
Closing a short means buying.  Buy!  Buy!  Wink


just good thing the people who took my trade are'nt everyone   Cheesy
679  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: October 29, 2014, 12:40:09 AM
With shorts on okcoin at a high I think it might be wise to assume a neutral position here. sentiment is a significant part of ew.

Queue the image where everyone switches from "SELL!  SELL!" to "BUY!  BUY!".


Lol no I just think the trade has lost its strength. we should take profit and see what follows. Its really not bullish or bearish.
680  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: October 29, 2014, 12:10:51 AM
With shorts on okcoin at a high I think it might be wise to assume a neutral position here. sentiment is a significant part of ew.
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