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1041  Economy / Speculation / Re: CryptoWaves - Elliott Wave Analysis Blog on: April 28, 2014, 07:55:49 PM
Do you guys think we just hit point 2?

I think we have begun a wave C, could be part of a 1-2-1-2 primary, or a correction up 600-700.




We don't know really if that's C or (III). They are indistinguishable at this stage.  But I think it's more likely to be C because previous wave down was more like B.

What is 1-2-1-2? I know only 5 and 3 combinations. These one-twos should subdivide.

well 1-2-1-2 is a retrospecive form of primary, that looks just like an abc until wave a of the next leg turns around into a iii wave.
we had some really bad news yesterday, and the market has turned. this is not a short squeeze, I think it has fundamental drive. considering where we are in the larger picture, I am expecting a wave iii.
1042  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: April 28, 2014, 07:49:00 PM
EW was a pattern observed retroactively for decades worth of data in saturated / mature markets.  Bitcoin is none of those.

EW certainly applies to bitcoin. very clearly. the constant is not the market, the constant is people/herd psychology - old as the hills. wave counts can be ambiguous, but I promise you Bitcoin offers some of the clearest junctures you will eves see. this is because people are very emotionally attached, and prone to panic/greed.
1043  Economy / Speculation / Re: CryptoWaves - Elliott Wave Analysis Blog on: April 28, 2014, 07:34:44 PM
Do you guys think we just hit point 2?

I think we have begun a wave C, could be part of a 1-2-1-2 primary, or a correction up 600-700.


1044  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 28, 2014, 11:36:56 AM
No, the argument wasn't invalid. If you are even a little more then than stupid,.....

FTFY
 Grin
1045  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 28, 2014, 11:23:45 AM
What I like to call "check mate"  Grin Grin Grin Grin

but it's not certain!  Wink
1046  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: April 28, 2014, 11:21:06 AM
Forgive my ignorance again but what does the EW stand for in EW analysis?

Elliot Wave.
Its wave theory, theorised first by a fella called Elliot.
1047  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: April 28, 2014, 11:08:57 AM
I have talked to him personally on chat. not very convincing in his reasoning, although his count is valid. A valid count is all you need to make money with EW, be it right or wrong, but there are better bullish counts that are equally if not more valid.
1048  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 28, 2014, 10:59:24 AM
making predictions based on the certainty, that bitcoin will be adopted by the entire world, is a little beyond dumb.

strawman. god im so sick of strawmans around here.

why do speculators have to begin and end every sentence with "probably imo" we are specualators, grow up. we are playing a game of probability and Risto knows this better than you.


If you know something about speculation, then you know that there is no certainty in speculation. If someone is trying to pretent certainty, especially in a subject that is extremely uncertain, then that someone is a useless tool.

yeah well what did I just say? your argument is a strawman. you dont like Risto, ok, but keep the argument valid or you look dumb.

No, the argument wasn't invalid. If you are even a little more then stupid, then you won't make predictions that aren't predictable. That will lose you any credibility that you might have. It's like the weather service would make a certain prediction, that at 12:36AM on 23.08.2019, it will start to rain in NYC. Predictions like that will make you look like a joke to those who know better, only to the dim-witted ones it may look like something wonderful.

actually the argument was invalid, alongside this beautiful red herring you have presented to me. Risto is not 100% certain that bitcoin is going to be adopted by the entire world. you set up the argument as a strawman - or where do you get your facts?
1049  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 28, 2014, 10:36:25 AM
making predictions based on the certainty, that bitcoin will be adopted by the entire world, is a little beyond dumb.

strawman. god im so sick of strawmans around here.

why do speculators have to begin and end every sentence with "probably imo" we are specualators, grow up. we are playing a game of probability and Risto knows this better than you.


If you know something about speculation, then you know that there is no certainty in speculation. If someone is trying to pretent certainty, especially in a subject that is extremely uncertain, then that someone is a useless tool.

yeah well what did I just say? your argument is a strawman. you dont like Risto, ok, but keep the argument valid or you look dumb.
1050  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 28, 2014, 10:27:49 AM
making predictions based on the certainty, that bitcoin will be adopted by the entire world, is a little beyond dumb.

strawman. god im so sick of strawmans around here.

why do speculators have to begin and end every sentence with "probably imo" we are specualators, grow up. we are playing a game of probability and Risto knows this better than you.
1051  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: April 28, 2014, 08:24:38 AM
many readers don't understand the whole concept and go out screaming "rpietila was wrong" every time I say anything, no matter what probability is attached.

The vultures love having someone to blame. they crave it. they also crave promises. and free lunch.
1052  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 28, 2014, 08:04:48 AM

What is your source for news?

Crazy that they also banned withdrawal channel!

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withdrawals of funds, purchase and sale of recharge codes related transactions and other activities not through my bank account funds transfer related transactions. Once found, the bank is entitled to take account transactions related to the suspension, cancellation related accounts and other measures.

they banned withdrawals without notice? funny that!
the easiest way to take funds out is with BTC now.
1053  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 28, 2014, 07:52:00 AM
Nobody compelled me to compose memoirs, so they are there for a purpose. Perhaps I will tell, perhaps not.  Grin

So you made a bold prediction - "won't go below 435!" Then you wanted 7 to 1 odds against it. LOL! Are you even listening to yourself?

I'm not trying to be hard on you and yes, I admit I called you out, only to try to get you to take the bet quickly. You don't like to take reasonable bets, only unreasonable ones, so I thought I might gode you into a reasonable one.

But you are making yourself look bad here, not me or anyone else.

7:1 odds are a bargain, very reasonable indeed to even the slightest bear. you should have taken the bet.
1054  Economy / Speculation / Re: CryptoWaves - Elliott Wave Analysis Blog on: April 28, 2014, 06:34:46 AM
we have a complete count. the C wave was a weak impulsive, now we have a typical abc-abc-135 pattern. this is a tradable juncture with a lot of upside potential - I am long from 430. this bear run is very weak, and losing momentum rapidly.
Exit strategy is pending, if the impulsive becomes more aggressive, I would cut loss in the teens, but the trade is otherwise valid until 400 is broken.
1055  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 28, 2014, 05:43:22 AM
"BTC China ‏@btcchina  4m
@Quiontron Hi, we are still accepting deposits from Bank of China. All withdrawals are not affected. Thanks."   

Ah. Thanks, missed that. Yeah, it's the only bank left for Huobi and BTCChina then. Already closed their account on  CHBTC. I somehow got confused

I doubt PBOC will ban fiat withdrawal. If it does happen, shit will hit the fan. Banning all fiat deposits is already a huge step towards slowing down BTC adoption in China

if PBOC bans fiat withdrawal, every cent of fiat on those exchanges is going straight into bitcoin. BOOM.

Thats ridiculous. They would set a deadline and people would be desperate to get out while they can. The idea of "to the moon" because there is no other choice is juvenile. Did it happen with Gox? Hell no.

hey, I didnt say 'to da moon', and actually it did happen to gox. dont you remember the $200 arbitrage?
1056  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 28, 2014, 05:19:25 AM
Good news! NO FUD.

BTCChina:

http://www.weibo.com/2149945883/B1MStEjN0?mod=weibotime

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Small partners about bitcoin China suspended all news withdrawals are false news Bitcoin Chinese recharge and withdrawals everything is normal. If you need help, please call customer service phone 400-664-3033



A chinese guy on tradingview chat was telling me this yesterday. a lot of chinese are not concerned at all - after all, the chinese have declared that they cant ban it, dont have the authority to ban it, and dont wish to ban it. There will be a loop hole in the system for deposits somewhere. ill bet on it, seems like the chinese think so.

thanks for posting.

China needs to die before the bull market can resume. The reason is simple: A China market that is still alive can die. A China market that is dead cannot die because it is already dead. That sucks for the Chinese traders and investors. Blame the PBoC if you like, but it's the truth.

the chinese govt is simply not simple. One word from the PBoC and the bull run resumes.

China is uncertainty. Markets hate uncertainty. Why is that so hard to grasp? Why is it so hard to accept?   

markets hate uncertainty. chinese LOVE bitcoin.

what are you accusing me of? anything is possible. I dont have the crystal ball, though a lot of people enjoy accusing me of this.

It's true but useless to say anything is possible. What is probable?

you are saying that it is uncertain, so we will probably fall. when markets are forward looking, Im gonna go right ahead and say thats a paradox. One word from the PBOC, and the bull is back.
1057  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 28, 2014, 05:07:34 AM
"BTC China ‏@btcchina  4m
@Quiontron Hi, we are still accepting deposits from Bank of China. All withdrawals are not affected. Thanks."   

Ah. Thanks, missed that. Yeah, it's the only bank left for Huobi and BTCChina then. Already closed their account on  CHBTC. I somehow got confused

I doubt PBOC will ban fiat withdrawal. If it does happen, shit will hit the fan. Banning all fiat deposits is already a huge step towards slowing down BTC adoption in China

if PBOC bans fiat withdrawal, every cent of fiat on those exchanges is going straight into bitcoin. BOOM.
1058  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 28, 2014, 04:48:45 AM

today is the 28th, this is dated the 27th.
1059  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 28, 2014, 04:43:27 AM
Good news! NO FUD.

BTCChina:

http://www.weibo.com/2149945883/B1MStEjN0?mod=weibotime

Quote
Small partners about bitcoin China suspended all news withdrawals are false news Bitcoin Chinese recharge and withdrawals everything is normal. If you need help, please call customer service phone 400-664-3033



A chinese guy on tradingview chat was telling me this yesterday. a lot of chinese are not concerned at all - after all, the chinese have declared that they cant ban it, dont have the authority to ban it, and dont wish to ban it. There will be a loop hole in the system for deposits somewhere. ill bet on it, seems like the chinese think so.

thanks for posting.

China needs to die before the bull market can resume. The reason is simple: A China market that is still alive can die. A China market that is dead cannot die because it is already dead. That sucks for the Chinese traders and investors. Blame the PBoC if you like, but it's the truth.

the chinese govt is simply not simple. One word from the PBoC and the bull run resumes.

China is uncertainty. Markets hate uncertainty. Why is that so hard to grasp? Why is it so hard to accept?   

markets hate uncertainty. chinese LOVE bitcoin.

what are you accusing me of? anything is possible. I dont have the crystal ball, though a lot of people enjoy accusing me of this.
1060  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 28, 2014, 04:20:47 AM
Good news! NO FUD.

BTCChina:

http://www.weibo.com/2149945883/B1MStEjN0?mod=weibotime

Quote
Small partners about bitcoin China suspended all news withdrawals are false news Bitcoin Chinese recharge and withdrawals everything is normal. If you need help, please call customer service phone 400-664-3033



A chinese guy on tradingview chat was telling me this yesterday. a lot of chinese are not concerned at all - after all, the chinese have declared that they cant ban it, dont have the authority to ban it, and dont wish to ban it. There will be a loop hole in the system for deposits somewhere. ill bet on it, seems like the chinese think so.

thanks for posting.

China needs to die before the bull market can resume. The reason is simple: A China market that is still alive can die. A China market that is dead cannot die because it is already dead. That sucks for the Chinese traders and investors. Blame the PBoC if you like, but it's the truth.

the chinese govt is simply not simple. One word from the PBoC and the bull run resumes.
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