Spot value doesn't have much to do with jewelry prices, its the craftsman's time and material/machinery costs that make jewelry expensive. You'll get nauseous if you run the numbers on a $1000 2 gram 14k gold ring. Much harder to test as well. If you are testing a pure gold bar and find anything out of the ordinary, its fake. With jewelry you can get false positives or negatives depending on whats in the alloys.

That said, people counterfeit gold, not that strange considering the amount of money to be earned doing so. Its not all that hard to test generic gold bars, the trick is with testing things that come in plastic slabs, or collectible things that you don't want to ding.

I've never quite been able to understand why people compare bitcoin, gold, and fiat at all. Fiat is not a store of wealth, its a currency or means of exchange. If you don't like the fiat system, just keep as much cash as you need to pay your bills, and put the rest into a store of wealth. Bitcoin and gold are both stores of wealth, but completely different investments. Gold has traditional commercial and industrial value. Bitcoin has value for all kinds of complex economic reasons I'm sure I'd butcher if I tried to repeat. Bitcoin is more unstable than gold, but it also has a greater gain/loss potential. They are very different investment vehicles.

Mix it up, hold Bitcoins and gold, and buy from reputable dealers if you want piece of mind. Its not worth saving $7 buying a gold bar on Ebay, unless you have all of the materials to accurately test it yourself, and have the time to fight with Ebay customer support when you claim the bar is fake. I've got all of the testing supplies, and will still tell you, I still prefer buying from a large company that is safe.

We have nothing to hide. Your sharp questions actually bring out more trust when answered. So I see that as a huge plus...

I have asked the CEO yesterday to ask the partners to bring out partnership statements with erecoin on their own social media channels. As soon as that is out, I will post it here in this thread. You are right, we need this in order to build a foundation of trust. Thank you for that idea and critical analysis. The BTT community is lucky to have you onboard!

But for the moment:

Here is an article about Beamler and Erecoin written in a very well known additive manufacturing Magazine: https://www.metal-am.com/beamler-and-erecoin-look-to-focus-on-blockchain-technology-for-additive-manufacturing/


I think the magnitude of Beamler speaks for itself and there is no need for me to provide proof it's real. https://www.beamler.com/

Their team seems pretty legit. But the collab with the mentioned partners from their website, do they have articles or any social media statement that will confirm their partnerships with erecoin?

I'm getting a green screen for the site now, hope it's just me.

If it's gone, I'll miss JD, it was a pioneer.

I agree with Lesbian Cow you would need to take individual
images of the coins front and back so that people can see
exactly what you have and what state they are in.

to clean or not to clean is a long running debate, personally
I like clean coins so that I can see the details of the coin rather
than the crap it has gathered throughout its life.

I didnt follow all the links you provided but judging from the
ones I did there are a lot of common coins which are not worth
that much apart from this:


There was only approximately 5000 of those coins minted, its
not gold or silver but the rarity is what is of interest.
Thats if it is this coin >

https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/spain-peseta-km-775-1946-48-1963-67-cuid-1082184-duid-1516025

https://www.silveragecoins.com/en/details.php?item=8531

EBAY Listing number 333051181011

There's a lot of posts in this section "ICOs will come back", "Some ICOs are scams", "Should I do ICOs". These all contain the implication that Initial Coin Offerings are fine and dandy.

What type of information do you need to know that Initial Coin Offerings are trash the majority of the time? 80% of ICOs in 2017 were scams. To put that into respective, that's 4 out of every 5. The odds are terrible. Going by the rules of probability, you're going to be apart of the four of five. Why wouldn't you be?

The ideas I've seen with Initial Coin Offerings are just as bad. Why do these companies need $80 million in the first place? Let's be realistic, most things don't need to be on the blockchain. Satoshi didn't need to do an Initial Coin Offering to make Bitcoin into a bustling success. He started off putting in his own money. What do ICOs actually have to bring to the table?

The people that are making these threads with a positive implication are probably apart of the scams, or they're risking their money with the odds stacked entirely against them.

It's possible to have original ideas offered for free. Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin. Some people are simply blinded by their greed and short-term to try speculate on the worthless. No wonder bubbles are so rampant within this ecosystem.

Resources:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/new-study-says-80-percent-of-icos-conducted-in-2017-were-scams

@cryptomeo: We didn’t forget you, we will reply to your question shortly

@dzkrb1966:
Explaining the full vision would explode the thread, but I wil explain it shortly: Erecoin will offer more than a secure, transparent and global transfer of 3D data. It also provides a fully integrated system for additive manufacturing (“3D-Printing”), meaning it’s not only a digital, but also a physical project when it comes to the 3D-printers and printing results itself. The complete idea is available as white-paper on our website www.erecoin.io.

Oh LOL
Welcome back my friend. Good luck for the restart. I hope you will manage regular basis job to use your spare time.

open bazaar is good bitcoin marketplace but I think we need a very big crypto marketplace which may be much more famous
among the people.



We need to devise a automated way of escrow which protects both the buyers and the sellers.