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on: March 04, 2016, 04:15:21 PM

Quote from: MRKLYE on March 03, 2016, 10:18:34 PM Thank you for the transaction list andu. Will look at it shortly. Quote from: cloverme on March 03, 2016, 09:50:39 PM The last time I saw this much drama BEFORE a coin launch was when the Fonz slapped a pinball machine for free quarters. This level of retarded conjecture is amazing. 1) I didn't buy any coins from CBIindex 2) Caveat Emptor - I speculate on assets and coins all the time. We all our big-boy pants on and know what speculative investing means for assets/coins. Take your argument to the Scam Accusations thread where it belongs, all of you know better. You're acting like newbies here, knock it off. I'm just going off what I've been told clover and in all honesty I was just trying to ensure you hadn't pissed away half a BTC on what is essentially an IOU for an undeveloped coin that can be printed in infinite amount at the moment. Starting a topic in scam accusations is redundant, as people reading this thread need to be informed as to what they are actually getting into and that these can be created at any time under the promise that they will be distributed or burnt. This in my opinion is extremely risky to anyone planning to hold or trade the coins as at any given time if a market order was put up they would be able to create more darkclam and dump them onto the market. All this aside, I would like to hear andu out and see if he has any proposal to limit 3rd party liabilities on this project. Going off of scouts honor seems a little risky or calculated and involving doog as escrow could be misconstrued as attempting to piggy back off his trust. I believe these are valid concerns and I invite any other users to voice their concerns about this project as well. DarkClam may have potential, But in it's current state their is far to much trust being placed on the developers to not print and pocket themselves a mountain of DC IOU's before the actual coin comes out... Even if you announced a 1% or 0.5% premine and were open about it I'm sure it would help alleviate some concerns others have. No one develops coins for free, and the only reason shitcoins exist is to take money out of peoples pockets and put it into yours. I like to spend time in front of a screen more than anything else, we dont want premine the distribution is public, all the trust on us is as long as we hold the leftover, and that will end in about two weeks, daxxog is not really developing for free, he is making my dice and he doesnt pay commission, besides we have few more projects on the way. 3rd party liabilities? Daxxog wanted to just burn it, and doog thrown the idea of continuing the distribution so we can have a fixed supply (check early posts), so i proposed using doog as escrow. I dont have time atm to write a full answer but i will edit later, i didnt saw this reply of yours till now. Edit: I actually had speaked with daxxog about this, what if instead of us taking a premine dooglus takes like 1% of the leftover as small reward for escrowing, or whatever we do.

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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"

on: March 04, 2016, 03:49:36 PM

Quote from: NUFCrichard on March 02, 2016, 08:58:46 PM I think that people are selling up to buy ETH and other ETH related Alts. I assume that is the case anyway, the price kind of sucks at the moment though. The amount invested in JD seems high still, so hopefully not too much invested money is moving out too. Eth is the shitties shitcoin out there, clam is going down because all these fuckers bitching and making people negative with their negativity, that makes people sell hence price going lower, many just-dice users that want a new shitcoin or btc (thing that i believe and hope that wont happen) keep preaching that clam has nothing to offer when few months backwards they were all licking the ass of clam and enjoying price skyrocketing, or well i guess i could say just licking the clam lol. I think CLAM has a bright future as always, but people doesnt bother to speak about it anymore, it may need services, but you cannot say it has no services, slowly eventually after clam gets rid of its "weak hands" and whoever profited enough and wants a next coin to pump. There was atleast a couple services under developement for clam, instead of bitching about the price and generate more panic those kind of users should just move away. I think clam is low just because the digger spreaded fear between the whales hence why the price being keept low( or atleast it looks that way for me.) Also take count for gods sake that most of the trades and specially the big ones are done off-market. Ps: Nufcrichard all this is not because you wrote that (specifically)but for the general senseless negativity im seeing in last months.

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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"

on: March 04, 2016, 11:15:21 AM

Quote from: dooglus on March 04, 2016, 04:16:55 AM Quote from: rocoro on March 04, 2016, 02:18:22 AM About how much would he get with 100, per day on JD ? I can tell you how much he would have got per 100 per week on JD over some recent weeks: Jan 4 2016 0.69 Jan 11 2016 0.71 Jan 18 2016 0.70 Jan 25 2016 0.68 Feb 1 2016 0.66 Feb 8 2016 0.67 Feb 15 2016 0.70 Feb 22 2016 0.76 Feb 29 2016 0.66 So about 0.1 per day. Or 10 days per whole CLAM. That's a little worse than my 8.333 day estimate for solo-staking, but that calculation could easily have been that much off because there's no accurate way of knowing how many CLAMs are actually trying to stake. Just wondering, does your aproximation include the commission?

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on: March 04, 2016, 05:53:30 AM

Quote from: jpcfan on March 04, 2016, 04:26:34 AM when i offsite max at darkclam dice my 147,000 dark clam will turn into 1 million darkclam fast. i will have blue betting there People was bitching cuz the way of the distribution, i see no fairer way to do it, its tecnically impossible to cheat this way. Besides most of us lost a lot hence i think this is a good chance flr ourselves to redeem ourselves lol.

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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"

on: March 03, 2016, 11:01:46 PM

Quote from: dooglus on March 03, 2016, 04:23:53 PM Quote from: tolikkk on March 03, 2016, 01:55:37 PM hi, how need Clams for pure POS? 100 enough? and how much is the probability to catch the POS at 100 coins in the wallets? thank you There are around 1.2 million CLAMs staking, and 1440 CLAMs are staked per day. So each CLAM can expect to take 1.2e6 / 1440 = 833.3333 days to stake, or 100 CLAMs can expect to take 8.333 days to stake. Roughly. Ill point out that investing on just dice or other site that lets you stake clams saves you from the headache of variance with such small amount going standalone. So yeah it may take 8.333 days to stake a whole clam, but you get a stake nearly every minute.

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on: March 03, 2016, 10:23:40 PM

Quote from: jpcfan on March 03, 2016, 10:20:11 PM i like the fonz.... for the record i had 347,000 darkclam. i sold 200,000 darkclam to 2 people for a total of 0.52btc. i'm decided to keep the other 147,000 darkclam and will invest it in the new darkclam dice site when it goes live. and when it goes live my next move would be to type these words into chat: /offsite max .........bitches!!!!! This is prolly not the place to speak about it, but not sure if id like offsite. Eitherway there is another site that will accept DC too.

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Economy / Lending / Re: 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ zazarb's Micro-Loans 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨

on: March 03, 2016, 10:07:18 PM

Quote from: zazarb on March 02, 2016, 07:11:18 PM Quote from: zazarb on January 26, 2016, 06:46:35 PM Quote from: andulolika on January 26, 2016, 05:28:23 PM Loan Amount:.1 Reason for Taking out a Loan:blow n dope/b] Amount to be repaid: .12 Repayment Date:1 month Type of Collateral:dis account Bitcoin Address:1anduis If you have clams id gladly accept them Sig: Signature: HJdoWAAffMdVgGUeeaTm6eNJIwRxXVCfjJYlOgSarIo1AS4YPmfCFZUi9nBvquaIEMHHmkmXx49IWZw XNl2l+DY= verified http://coinig.com/?adr=1anduisJPbwTUxNyf78nVcri45cm2hgfk&msg=I+am+andulolika+from+bitcointalk.org%2C+today+is+26%2F01%2F2016.+I+am+asking+for+a+loan+from+zazarb+with+my+account+andulolika+as+collateral.+If+I+default+my+loan%2C+zazarb+will+be+the+new+owner+of+my+account.&sig=HJdoWAAffMdVgGUeeaTm6eNJIwRxXVCfjJYlOgSarIo1AS4YPmfCFZUi9nBvquaIEMHHmkmXx49IWZwXNl2l%2BDY%3D 45clam sent Quote Quote from: zazarb on January 31, 2016, 07:17:56 PM Quote from: andulolika on January 31, 2016, 07:13:36 PM Loan Amount:50 klumz Reason for Taking out a Loan:Father of dorks Amount to be repaid:55 Repayment Date:25th jan or as late 2-3 days more Type of Collateral:dis acc Bitcoin Address:1anduis Address: 1anduisJPbwTUxNyf78nVcri45cm2hgfk Message: I am andulolika from bitcointalk.org, today is 31/01/2016. I am asking for a loan from zazarb with my account andulolika as collateral. If I default my loan, zazarb will be the new owner of my account. Signature: HA8XuALYE/M3j5IuAcGs+Rc8q9XOv5C+3hVA5y6OawkKc9da68aUsYbexCSK0b8psHJFf89Rrkvc2oFLaW4D26s= The loan can be both btc or clam based but state it here however you want. accepted,verified, sent 50clam(direct in jd) Both Loan merged and re-lent until 26 March .Total repayment Amount 125 clams Thanks zazarb .

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on: March 03, 2016, 09:47:25 PM

Quote from: MRKLYE on March 03, 2016, 09:40:41 PM Quote from: andulolika on March 03, 2016, 09:04:07 PM What part you dont understand, the leftover is for FUTURE CLAIMING with fixed supply if whoever claimed chooses to keep the distribution going, you can see if any coin was moved. A: I am not distributing anything B: How hidden? All you fuding about is on XCP C: HOW? You can see our stats they been taken directly from jd, you can check yourself the codes i guess, check daxxog github. D: Using it as escrow is a good move i agree lol. E: I never intended to be profesional, im 20yo i cannot be that profesional yet, beside i like shit as it is. Oh, and how can i scam them? Selling them darkclsms for the address that contains them? I cannot do that, im no coder, daxxog could, but i doubt he would. Perhaps you need to have a look at what the title of this thread says, Claiming no premine and then stating to have left overs for future claiming are contradictory and further hurt the credibility of this.. While we can see that coins have been moved we have no way of ensuring what coins were supposed to go where.. A2) Perhaps not, But you are still hyping a severely flawed "coin". (it was my understanding you were from what I was told) B2) I asked you before about where the XCP asset was located. You told me to fuck off. C2) How? You tell me. I'm 99% sure no one is going to take the time to audit the entire distribution, Which is what you are counting on. D2) You're blatantly trying to borrow doog's trusted status to give credibility to an otherwise completely flawwed distro method. E2) Perhaps then instead of threatening to kill me take my advice and pointers, I like the idea of DC but as it sits it's COMPLETELY fucked and hyping it up and inferring to people that it may hold value in the future while you can freely create them on promise to properly distribute / burn them could be misconstrued as very scammy given the fact that you've claimed no premine yet have 13 Million or something of them sitting there... So far you told me about cloverme and CBIindex's trade for DC and BTC which costed cloverme 0.5 BTC. Can you think of anyone else of the top of your head? Contrary to popular belief I'm not witch hunting you or on an anti darkclam crusade, I am honestly concerned at the lack of thought and the points of failure the current chosen distribution method holds. It's already costed one user a fair sum of BTC already.. I'm trying to prevent more needless loss on something that really shouldn't be traded until done properly via coding instead of asset creation and "scouts honor". Seems that cloverme bought from someone else, so cbi sold to someone else. 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You can also find the bootstrap I never told you to fuck off, i told oyu the answer many times till i got tired of you, as i said before you admited and i guess you still admit that you dont bother to research, fud first questions later? The bot that checks the distribution is open sourced i think.

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on: March 03, 2016, 09:04:07 PM

Quote from: MRKLYE on March 03, 2016, 09:01:11 PM Andu, none of your long winded replies mean shit. A) You cannot be trusted to distribute anything, period. B) Information was hidden or withheld in order to save face. C) It is impossible to tell how many have been pocketed by you and daxxog. D) You are dragging dooglus into this bullshit to give it credibility. E) Inability to maintain professional appearance under criticism. Lets get the facts straight here. You have a unlocked/unlimited XCP asset and you are tricking / manipulating people into believing they will have value in order to steal BTC from JD users. That isn't speculation, that isn't me trying to bully you. That is exactly what is happening and given the fact that we have no way of knowing that the distribution was fair or not I'm calling this shit a scam and you should really reconsider what you are doing. Make sure those who were unfortunate enough to trade real money for this bullshit broken "coin" are paid back.. DarkScam should not be traded in its current state nor should you be claiming you have no premine when the entire fucking thing is premined.. What part you dont understand, the leftover is for FUTURE CLAIMING with fixed supply if whoever claimed chooses to keep the distribution going, you can see if any coin was moved. A: I am not distributing anything B: How hidden? All you fuding about is on XCP C: HOW? You can see our stats they been taken directly from jd, you can check yourself the codes i guess, check daxxog github. D: Using it as escrow is a good move i agree lol. E: I never intended to be profesional, im 20yo i cannot be that profesional yet, beside i like shit as it is. Oh, and how can i scam them? Selling them darkclsms for the address that contains them? I cannot do that, im no coder, daxxog could, but i doubt he would.

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on: March 03, 2016, 08:56:56 PM

Quote from: Bluewaffle on March 03, 2016, 08:55:05 PM idk i have no trust issues with the distribution tbh i trust daxxog so idk maybe everyone just has different views on the whole thing I was wondering what he can do, his threat was spam and fud, i believe those things are good, it just shows they bother. Edit: @klye This makes me remember that you threatened me first , but i didnt really threatened you.

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on: March 03, 2016, 08:53:53 PM

Quote from: MRKLYE on March 03, 2016, 08:51:09 PM Quote from: Bluewaffle on March 03, 2016, 08:42:00 PM how is that a scam when there are plenty of coins being bought as an asset like iota peoplle have spent 100s of btc on the iota asset so idk what your whole trip is just cause you and andu bumped heads on jd doesnt mean you need to try n bash on something just cause of a personal issue This isn't a personal issue, I don't really have a problem with andu besides the fact he is being dishonest in his given info initially on DarkScam. But now this shit is starting to cost people money.. and personally if this isn't a scam I'd like to see any trades been done refunded and the trust issues in the distribution fixed before this shit goes on any further. As it sits I'm calling this a poorly thought out plan at worst or a shit scam at best. You dont have proof for ANYTHING because i have done anything, i been as transparent as possible and it is transparent if you bother to look, all you do is fud and spam.

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on: March 03, 2016, 08:50:33 PM

Quote from: MRKLYE on March 03, 2016, 08:47:09 PM Quote from: Makingsure on March 03, 2016, 08:39:05 PM Quote from: MRKLYE on March 03, 2016, 08:34:33 PM As it sits their are to many points of failure in this distribution method. It needs to be made trust-less. Personally I wouldn't touch this shit regardless with a 10 foot pole, Given that their PR guy andu basically reacted exactly how one would think a scammer would. If you had actually thought about the mechanics of the distribution and making it foolproof and trustless you wouldn't be having me whistle blow.. However, Your inability to state the truth about the XCP asset, the premine and the subsequent uttering of threats in JD after I tried multiple times to discuss this matter with you in a civilized manner left me no choice.. I will not allow this project to be given perceived value nor will I allow you to hype this bullshit in any places I frequent until either a trust-less system has been put in place or you refund any BTC lost in trading this bogus shit. I know of atleast one transaction of 0.5 BTC was traded for darkscam.. This should be refunded immediately by the trading parties. The fact that you were knowingly allowing this shit to be traded while the asset is unlocked and unlimited screams scam. Do not trade darkscam for BTC until the developers address the issues noted in above posts. Until then I am calling scam on this shit. "I know of atleast one transaction of 0.5 BTC was traded for darkscam.. This should be refunded immediately by the trading parties." say whaaaa? there are like literally thousands for pennies on the market, and not ONE sale has been done, how is andu responsible for private sales between idiots (i say idiots because who would buy that crap jpcfan himself has like 1mil of them) tht being said i still agree , way to many messed up distro problems and NEEDS to be trustless, only way in crypto nowadays Andu was the one pushing this DarkScam garbage in JD. I hold him personally responsible for any BTC lost in trades among users. Had he not been hyping this trash up and spamming it all over users would not have perceived it to be valuable nor would have they spent BTC on it. Given that info, I urge that no one even bother with this "coin" nor trade it until concerns in above posts have been addressed and fixed. - Get rich they said, real value they said... All while stuffing their pockets with them and fucking people out of BTC for a worthless token. Oh you using BB style

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on: March 03, 2016, 08:48:59 PM

Quote from: MRKLYE on March 03, 2016, 07:18:20 PM Well, I guess I'll finally make this information public before more people get sucked into this DarkClam bullshit. First off, DarkClam is nothing more than an unlocked unlimited XCP asset, Meaning that the developers can essentially create more whenever. Promises to have an actual crypto done up have been flying around, but not a single member of the darkclam team seems capable of such work. The OP of this post (andu) deliberately deceived people initially stating DarkClam was not an XCP asset, However later it was found out to be. I know of more than a few occurrences where JD users have been sucked in by this shit and traded BTC for these essentially worthless unlimited XCP assets... Now wait a second... These guys are claiming that this darkclam may have some value in the future all the while being able to create as many coins as they want.. The problem that this creates is that is it impossible to tell exactly how many DarkClam they've created from nothing.. and also how many they may claim to have distributed while stuffing them in their own pockets. Far too many points of trust failure here, and given that andu already has been caught deceiving people initially about what this "coin" really is do you honestly think that he doesn't have a hidden stash or premine set aside? So OP (andu) already has been caught spreading mis-information about the project from the get go.. And now we are going to trust him to have not filled his own pockets with these limitless assets which are essentially IOU's for some clone coin that they may be creating (which, given the design of this "coin" MUST be premined in order to supply the users that claimed the XCP asset with the "actual coin") Next comes my favourite part, The vote they have going currently for march 16th basically allows you to either vote for them to be "burned" (why would you have to burn anything if no premine as stated in thread title?) or to have them all transferred to JD owner dooglus to further distribute... I'd like to ask dooglus why he's even risking his trust getting involved with a project that basically from the start was designed to allow the developers to create unlimited amounts of coins with no sure way of telling if they've properly distributed or burned them all. (Again, why do you need to burn coins if their is no premine as stated in thread title?). Personally dooglus if I was you I would stay as far removed from this project as possible. Why create more work for yourself while risking your reputation on something that wasn't properly thought out from the get go. When it's proven that this was all an elaborate scheme cooked up by the developers to fuck people out of their hard earned BTC you're probably not going to want any involvement at all. This project as it is laid out currently has far to many points of failure, Taking the developers word that the distribution was done fairly doesn't fucking fly in crypto land and given that OP has already been caught trying to deceive people about the true nature of this project I would highly advise you skip over this scam in the making and not waste your BTC or CLAM supporting a project solely intended to pad the pockets of the developers via embezzled premined assets.. Dark Clam's scam potential is undeniable and andu doesn't want you to know this info. Don't buy into bullshit dark clam hype. Adding dark to a coins name and making an unlimited XCP asset with the promise to fairly distribute and burn is absolutely fucking absurd considering you claim no premine but the entire idea behind this cannot work without said premine. TL:DR; Andu lied about what DarkClam was initially, has been trading unlocked XCP assets while promising users they will have value (they won't) all under the promise that it will be fairly distributed (unlikely) all while trying to drag dooglus into it to give this scam in the making credibility. "Don't worry we'll make sure it's distributed fairly, trust us, we totally didn't make this "coin" so we could embezzle a fair chunk" -Andu's expected response. P.S. Great idea, terrible execution. If you want your projects to be successful do not allow andu's PR anywhere near it. Any credibility this "coin" may have had is absolutely smashed now given the fact your public relations guy can't even keep his fucking story straight. RIP DARKSCAM Its never been hidden that we didnt locked the asset yet its completly public. You were claiming i was saying darkclam is not an XCP asset, yes i did say that, when darkclam wasnt even an asset yet. I didnt wanted XCP at the beginning but i decided at the end that it may be better to properly develop the coin yet give people time to claim. No single member of the darkclam dev team? lol the "dev team" is made by daxxog, and the hard part of the coin (The VM) is expected to be done with cooperation of the CLAM dev team. You are claiming shit that you cannot know for sure how many coins we created? I think you should have another look at counterpartychain.io/asset/DARKCLAM . You dont have to burn anything, your coins are your coins, but as if you check the upper link you would see that there all the darkclams were issued (a bit over 24m) while the 11.09m(about) that users claimed the rest is held by daxxog, what we want to do is use dooglus as escrow (i believe he has an escrow thread,not sure id ask him on the jd chat eitherway.) to hold the leftover (currently held by daxxog which doesnt want to hold them). As you publicly announced in jd chat you didnt bothered to read any of the thread or the site yet you are coming with hard accusations against me and the coin(asset). If you looked a bit over we cannot cheat the system unless dooglus modified the wager himself, the leftover is going doog or burn the 16th march. I dared you to do this for the only reason that you been an asshole, and you proving yourself right now, all those claims without even a bit of research. Quote from: ilidion on March 03, 2016, 07:22:09 PM Quote from: daxxog on March 03, 2016, 02:45:24 PM Quote from: ilidion on March 03, 2016, 08:43:58 AM sooo questions here. all remaining darkclams to DOOGLUS and TRANSFER CONTROL of the token to him how many remaining dcs would be going to dooglus? and what does transfer control of the token mean exactly? Don't get me wrong I am all for having doog in our fun project. I think he is honest and a great asset to the coin. But I think a more thorough explanation would help others with their vote. I like to be an informed voter. But congrats on getting doog into dcs. Really nice move. Now if we can get some type of partnership with his dice site we could really grow this project. Congrats 13,153,520.94786813 or 54.03522979% will go to dooglas. "Transferring control" of the asset to doog means he can update the token information, create unlimited new tokens, or "lock" the token in to prevent more coins from being created. I currently control the token (and don't want to), which is why we are holding this vote. Sooooo I think it is a good idea but I think we need a statement from doog on what he plans and how he plans to use dc. It makes sense if he is going to take over the project in some way. Sorry I don't want to be a hater but you cant ask me to vote without knowing exactly what Im voting for. And I guess Im not the only one who has these questions. Get doog to make a statement and Im sure everyone will be more than happy for him to take over 54 percent of the initial distribution. The point wouldnt be him taking anything off the distribution, he would just be escrowing the funds. Quote from: MRKLYE on March 03, 2016, 08:01:47 PM And now we have andu uttering death threats to me on JD... Quote 13:46:02 (51) <clamdu> Klyemax gonna be klyeless lol Seems a very professional approach to dealing with whistle blowers eh? Suggest you'll kill them. /sarcasm Rather than acting like a child whom's birthday was taken I'd highly suggest you perhaps work on a trustless version of this project, because as it sits right now I'm going to advise everyone against even bothering with this fucking garbage cash grab you've dreamed up to fuck JD users. Just a reminder that this (andu) obviously level headed and extremely pleasant individual has access to the supposedly non-existant DarkScam premine and will distribute it fairly to you all, and then burn the rest... Of course once he's done threatening to kill me. Hmpf , you took your time to write all that, i had nothing in mind about killing you, you may give yourself a bit too much of importance, i guess we all do. Btw start apporting fundament to your accusations, i know you trust already sucks but yeah. Also i think its funny how you loved clam when you were making mugs and now all you do is saying how you dont see a bright future for it anymore. Quote from: CjMapope on March 03, 2016, 08:16:42 PM hmmm, ya see my problem was initial distribution my gripe was seeing hardcore gamblers own literally 500k DC , while many on the list had 100-500 "distributed MOSTLY to the largest gamblers" seems legit ;p just that alone for me is no way to make a coin, as to me, EVERYONE should get fair shakes at coins (original btc-qt had setgenerate) but idk, see what happens ;p EVERYONE would mean many many multi accounters, if you really have a better idea propose it, or make it .

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on: March 03, 2016, 11:13:09 AM

Quote from: ilidion on March 03, 2016, 08:43:58 AM sooo questions here. all remaining darkclams to DOOGLUS and TRANSFER CONTROL of the token to him how many remaining dcs would be going to dooglus? and what does transfer control of the token mean exactly? Don't get me wrong I am all for having doog in our fun project. I think he is honest and a great asset to the coin. But I think a more thorough explanation would help others with their vote. I like to be an informed voter. But congrats on getting doog into dcs. Really nice move. Now if we can get some type of partnership with his dice site we could really grow this project. Congrats My idea was him to hold the funds as escrow( look at the address that did the distribution to see how many left). Im not sure what transfering control of the token means honestly. We dont really have dooglus in the project, atleast officialy but he thrown acouple ideas in and been coperative. It would be lovely indeed to do it in such way so its more "close" to jd. Quote from: Dank Frank on March 03, 2016, 09:33:42 AM Quote from: daxxog on March 02, 2016, 06:19:31 PM VOTING IS NOW READY! Official vote token: A11025294652163217000 If you want to send all remaining darkclams to DOOGLUS and TRANSFER CONTROL of the token to him (for more distribution), send your vote tokens here: 1DARKCLAMxDooGXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZPbYip If you want to BURN all remaining darkclams and lock the token so NO MORE CAN BE CREATED, send your vote tokens here: 1DARKCLAMxBURNXXXXXXXXXXXXXXVvbpkg MAJORITY WINS, VOTING ENDS MARCH16. To vote i need to deposit BTC first? Counterparty shows a message that at least BTC0.0005 is needed for the transaction. I wonder how many votes gets lost because of this. Yeah its pretty annoying i know.

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on: March 03, 2016, 08:09:39 AM

Updated op with what more distribution means!

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on: March 02, 2016, 08:07:44 PM

Quote from: Makingsure on March 02, 2016, 06:53:37 PM Quote from: jpcfan on March 02, 2016, 06:49:03 PM i think would be great idea to have dooglus guide us. he always does whats best for the project i agree. i think that he has the tech chops and with dax and audu backing him up doing some of the lifting i believe him the best to do it im just trying to figure out this vote system (not very familiar with xcp web platform) and my vote will go there Im no coder lol, but i think its basically sending the testcoins (look in OP/daxx post for precise name) to one address for continuig and one for burning. Quote from: mrsalve on March 02, 2016, 07:30:56 PM Andu vote for me at this time before you send me few coins. My 2 cents tells me BURN. Hmm, sure thing.

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on: March 02, 2016, 04:36:34 PM

Quote from: Mig-23 on March 02, 2016, 04:31:56 PM so,..this coin only available at the xcp wallet ? sorry i still confused Yes, for now yes. And well its not only xcp, i have on phone indiesquare lol. Quote from: Makingsure on March 02, 2016, 04:33:43 PM Quote from: andulolika on March 02, 2016, 11:14:47 AM Quote from: Makingsure on March 02, 2016, 08:44:22 AM Quote from: ilidion on March 02, 2016, 08:40:53 AM Quote from: Makingsure on March 02, 2016, 08:36:52 AM Quote from: ilidion on March 02, 2016, 08:24:27 AM im running low on dcs already. Let me know if you need a spanish translation. hahaha ? where are you using them if i may ask? (sorry if i missed something) I'm not using them and still feel like I'm already running low. That means its a great coin. I guess I'm just a hoarder. o ok me too patiently waiting, i think it will be a bit, still only have first thing on their roadmap crossed off ;p Actually shit still got done, i think daxx is on dice stuff atm, eitherway there is few of the things that are like half way done and new ideas go to his mail nearly every day, it all takes a bit. haha thx for the answer, i understand, things take time, no rush, just impatient asshats like me ;p please pm me if you need any help testing or an extra set of hands for anything Well you can speak with daxxog, if you really want to do something surely you can get with him on stuff like whenever you feel.

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on: March 02, 2016, 04:27:31 PM

Quote from: jpcfan on March 02, 2016, 03:51:24 PM i''m keeping at least 100k. andu give me your counterwallet btc addy so i can send you that 100k You could find it in darkclam.com but 13juEYtQVQnu8pbH9Mxoz8qKws9EmbE1WQ

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on: March 02, 2016, 03:37:07 PM

Quote from: jpcfan on March 02, 2016, 11:20:16 AM hope we can get some buyers n sellers on xcp exchange. Im personally not selling shit lol.

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on: March 02, 2016, 11:14:47 AM

Quote from: Makingsure on March 02, 2016, 08:44:22 AM Quote from: ilidion on March 02, 2016, 08:40:53 AM Quote from: Makingsure on March 02, 2016, 08:36:52 AM Quote from: ilidion on March 02, 2016, 08:24:27 AM im running low on dcs already. Let me know if you need a spanish translation. hahaha ? where are you using them if i may ask? (sorry if i missed something) I'm not using them and still feel like I'm already running low. That means its a great coin. I guess I'm just a hoarder. o ok me too patiently waiting, i think it will be a bit, still only have first thing on their roadmap crossed off ;p Actually shit still got done, i think daxx is on dice stuff atm, eitherway there is few of the things that are like half way done and new ideas go to his mail nearly every day, it all takes a bit.

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