It's dumb because the reward your getting is extremely small compared to your cost. First off Nvidia cards make poor miners (even when GPU mining was viable) and the hash rate you'll generate is going to be so small you'll be lucky to make a few cents in a week running your card at full blast the whole time. With that kind of workload you'll probably overheat/brick the card giving you a lot of hassle for at best a few bucks.

Depends if you that the bank staff not to look through your possessions while your gone. While jewellery cannot go missing from a bank safe deposit without some big questions, if some scrupulous staff member copies down your private key/mnemonic they could move the coins without having to steal the actual paper. And with the paper still where it should be you have no way to prove that it was the banks incompetency.

It's highly unlikely that the devs would get the agreement of the miners and the nodes and in such a case the only way your proposed changes would get across would be that it is not included in the changelogs/publicly announced and hence it makes it in as a disguised patch. This only works provided no one compares the original changes and the source code so in reality it is very unlikely. Not to mention the backlash that would occur if it was discovered. So you can safely assume that it is extremely improbable that the code will be altered by the devs in such a manner that gives control to the government.

Regarding the discussion about mixing services, you guys are forgetting that a mixing service that logs it's users and retains their data so it can be shared is not going to get any business as it defeats the purpose of the mixing service. Even if Bitmixer had records, he has no inclination to share them seeing as he won't gain anything and it will damage his services reputation for maintaining anonymity.

Well looks like he's not coming back to pay back the loan as agreed. Looking at his posting history it seems he wanders in every week or so and takes breaks, so there is a chance he will pay back. That being said I've decided to give him negative rep until the loan issue is resolved. I still cannot see why someone would want to risk their account for $13, but it is what it is.

You still need to verify the bank account by at least logging in the with  bank credentials (or for later levels you might have to work with deposits). And it only applies to US bank accounts for the time being, so don't think it'll work with any other bank. To fund it from someone else's, you'll need their log in details at the least, and I'm pretty sure the owners will notice the fraud once you make a deposit.

No offense, but I fail to see what his physical abilities have to do with his hacking abilities (if it is even a he). Not trying to be a big downer, but to be brutally honest if you were to go via the criminal justice system your case would probably collapse if you didn't have much more information than his IP to prove that he did it. From what I've read (and learnt), judges don't really believe that an IP equates to a specific person (as piracy cases will show you). How would you even prove he stole it, although unlikely, he could claim that it was transferred by klee to him for some unbeknownst reason? And how would you know you had the right guy, unless you managed to get a warrant for police to raid his equipment?

Or would you just take the more dangerous and possibly convenient route and hire someone to scare him/worse? And even worse, what happens if you get the wrong guy?

This is probably going to be a little off-topic, but I've never understood why people think that any sort of positive correlation with Bitcoin means their trying to pump. If you were a normal person, would you honestly base your trading on the posts of some random guy on the internet who has posted a >20 times? I wouldn't.

Back on topic, if it gets big enough you can bet your bottom dollar that the banks will jump on quickly so as not to lose customers. Given that the non-savvy user is going to need a place to safely store coins and call upon if they need help they'll be happy to pay what they are now for this 'privilege'. To the rest of us, it may mean a day where we are completely independent of banks - although it would be interesting if banks offered insurance on coins they have stored.

I suppose that could be possible, but why wouldn't he just send the coins from the current address their in then mix? Considering that he already received a signed message and to verify signed messages you need a Bitcoin address (and for the address to have any relevance it needs to have enough coins in it), the address is already known to at least klee... Not to mention, sending them in relatively small chunks is going to take a while if at all.

That's just really garbage whinging talk. You don't need to bloody well understand the mathematical principle behind Bitcoin - a simple (but really rather complicated) overview is enough. It's probably a bit arrogant of me to say so, but I believe I have a reasonably good grasp of the core ideas behind Bitcoin without having to completely understand the mathematics behind trap-door cryptographic functions and elliptic curve cryptography. Personally, I doubt anyone truly believed we'd ever get this far with Bitcoin, some hoped and dreamed and speculated (more than others) but no one truly expected it.

Well it's time to check in given that it it's the 13th of July. Seeing as I agreed to 5 days overall, there's still one more day for him to repay before we have some issues. Personally, it isn't looking very good considering that he hasn't been online since the 10th, but it would silly for him to lose trust for a measly $12.

If the hacker wants it over and done with why wouldn't he just give it all over now and be done with it? Smells fishy to me.

From what I can see, so far the hacker hasn't held up on their end with the promise (the only tx to the agreed address is - https://blockchain.info/tx/bfdedc91f7f909ad56733bbcffc75214ad49f96d362ae2fb69fb6b529173686a) which is about 100x less than the overall amount and 50x less than the agreed amount for the first split.

This, I cannot stress how important it is to make sure that you are getting the version that the developer intended and not one that has been placed there with malicious intent thanks to some security hole on the site. The best thing would be to go through every line of code for the open source program and understand what each does, but this requires both a shit ton of time and a knowledge that a majority of people lack.

Seeing that all we're doing is just restating our own viewpoints, I'm not sure whether there is much to say on the matter - I haven't seen a valid argument stating that Bitcoin will not adapt, just absolute statements. Obviously, I haven't made an argument for it either, it's an interpretive idea rather than anything that can be truly known until we reach a point where adaptation occurs.

That being said, there are a select minority who want to use a coin which doesn't have infrastructure to support payments but as I've stated I personally doubt it will gain any traction. Features like extra anonymity are nice, but I don't really care about that if the coin I own can't be used to pay for anything. All it is will be the same thing that Bitcoin was in 2010, a creative plaything/experiment.

Since we're comparing - 100% accuracy*. Huehuehue.

Jokes aside, it's incredible how much work you mods seem to do, the volume of reports is pretty staggering.

Oh and since I'm here, congratulations hilariousandco on the promotion. Looks to me like you've well deserved it.

* (on my measly 52 reports)

I qualified my statement with 'possibly'. I don't have the time nor the interest (at least anymore) to read through pages and pages of altcoin material - of which half is marketing for pumps and dumps. The ideas are nice, but to me their irrelevant until they gain some usage outside of the small niche users these alts have currently. It's like the philosophical view of communism - it's a nice idea, but we aren't going to ever see it truly in practice so it doesn't matter that much to me.



That could be stated for any altcoins that can even get off the ground. If the feature is groundbreaking enough and necessary there will be vocalisations by an increasing mass for changes to the client. That we haven't had any significant modifications is simply indicative that overall only a minute fraction of people actually care about these new 'features'.


See response to FreeTrade.

It would be impossible given both the theoretical constraints (how do you define human nature with a set of rules?) and the technological constraints (even if you could the amount of space you would require I'd wager would be beyond what we have today or anywhere in the near future). Not to mention you'd probably create a ridiculously inaccurate portrayal of the human your trying to copy; it just cannot be done.

But that's how the system is built. By default its purpose is to provide irreversible transactions behind a layer of anonymity and obscurity. Unless you're planning on changing this, you're not going to change the current environment that enables scams to occur. The best you can do is educate people on how to store their coins properly rather than the current unsafe practices.

The thing is, it isn't exactly evolution when Bitcoin can just copy any significant feature that altcoins offer/think of. While animals might descend from one line due to a specific trait, Bitcoin doesn't have to - it just steals the trait if need be.


This is possibly the only other altcoin that I agree has true innovation rather than just pure marketing/pointless tech with no value. Pity it isn't more widely used.

I thought they moved over ages ago when the ASICs started making the difficulty explode and making it pointless to mine using a GPU? Not to mention now, given that there are scrypt ASICs it kind of defeats the purpose of having an altcoin that is 'ASIC resistant' as they were touted.

@OP: Other than it being an interesting piece of trivia, I fail to understand the relevance this has aside from telling us how difficult it is to mine...