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521  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does martingale really works? on: June 08, 2014, 03:28:13 AM
there is skill in making smart bets. Lots of people are martingaling and will keep martingaling and that's great for you. When they succeded you lose a peanut when they fail you make back all the peanuts they took from you and then some

That's not skill again. Your assuming incorrectly that people will eventually fail - which is true for an infinite case but at any non infinite case there is a possibility that they will continue to win and stop before that loss. Gambling is entirely luck, if you were to flat bet you could also go broke on the variance that gives you x losses in a row. Stratagems may deviate but if any was truly better than the others people would quickly use it to try and gain the best advantage they can get.
522  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Will encrypting my Bitcoin Core wallet move the funds to different addresses? on: June 08, 2014, 01:29:35 AM
Relax, all it does is flush and change the pool of future keys it will use, so any future transactions will be on different addresses. The current addresses that have been used should remain the same.

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Besides storing your current private keys, bitcoin wallet file also contains some pool of unused private keys. When encrypting wallet, this pool is flushed.

If you make some transaction using new (encrypted) wallet then change is sent to one of addresses from the pool, which is not present in old (unencrypted) wallet.

For example, you had 1BTC incoming transaction and spend 0.1BTC, then remaining 0.9BTC will be send to a change address. Then old (unencrypted) wallet will not be able to use this 0.9BTC, and they will be lost. But if you haven't done any transactions involving your coins, the old wallet will work.
523  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: Account with Trust for sale on: June 08, 2014, 01:25:25 AM
You may not use this account to scam.

That is not going to stop anyone if they are determined. If anything, a person who buys this wants the positive trust so that they can scam.
524  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Best "all round" bitcoin/computer protection? on: June 08, 2014, 01:22:08 AM
Would you(or anyone else for that matter) mind expanding on this point a little? What sort of attacks are we talking about here?

I don't use Noscript at the moment. Are there really many javascript exploits out there in the wild that we should be worried about standard web browsing? Also, I'm assuming these exploits are going to be targeting windows, not Linux.

Does the fact that Chrome sandboxes everything make a difference at all? Or is that just an illusion of protection? What about running Chrome in Sandboxie?

Basically by just visiting a site (not by actually downloading any malicious stuff) you can accidentally download malware. It's a broad term as the attack vectors can vary but in the past there have JS attacks and even attacks on reputable sites (ie Microsoft and newspapers) as an ad-network got hacked and had its ads replaced with malicious code.

Yeah, if you're on Linux I wouldn't be too worried, the system is locked down enough (you don't spend all day on root do you?) that it's nearly impossible for malware to do anything to the system. Not to mention, Linux only makes up 1% on all OSes used so if you're going to attack something go for the one everyone uses and people have permanent admin power even when they don't need it.

I'm not sure of the implications of Chrome upon drive bys, so I can't really help you there.
525  Economy / Gambling / Re: Dooglus "AMA" on: June 08, 2014, 01:14:36 AM
They will eventually touch the red when they bet more and it would be a feedback loop to have them incentivised to continue to bet until they are finally up (and continue to chase for the +EV game... )

That is a fallacy unfortunately. There is a reasonable probability that they never in fact do get to losing margins and hence all you do is end up behind (as the house). If they do get to a certain margin and then give them +EV, they will eventually gain (over the long term) back their losses unless you remove the +EV. In effect all you're doing is cutting your profit margin and the only advantage to that would be if you gained enough users to overcome those losses.

@doog: Do you have an explanation for why bet splitting works? I can't think of the logic behind it.
526  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Offline Transactions With Imported Private Key on: June 07, 2014, 11:46:09 AM
Code:
electrum deseed #default wallet
electrum -w /path/to/wallet/file deseed #other wallet

If the above doesn't work then what version electrum are you using?

edit: I just read your post again. You're not supposed to run it in the electrum console. You are supposed to run it on the command line i.e. command prompt on windows, shell on *nix.

Woops, thanks for clarifying that.

@dabura667: That is so awesome. Just tested it to give you a tip for that helpful advice! Smiley Thanks.
527  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Confession of a Degenerate on: June 07, 2014, 11:10:31 AM
I'll show you and Light how it's flawed  Cheesy

That really didn't do anything aside from adding to my list of untrusted feedback. Nobody but you and those who have you in their trust list will see it affect my trust rating. People get neg bombed all the time, doesn't really do much unless they are on DT.
528  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Confession of a Degenerate on: June 07, 2014, 10:42:48 AM
I also have proved that you can negatively rate someone higher if you have the ability to rate people with a Trusted Rating.

I'm not too sure whether you properly grasp the trust system. I'm failing to grasp what this statement actually is meant to say.

Because this system is so fucking flawed someone can just rate themself so many times for +21,000,000 BTC Trusted Rating that regardless of how much they get negative rated they will always be green.

When the trust system was implemented a feature was implemented to reduce the effect of spammed positive trust (ala it increases your overall trust in smaller amounts). In general while one could spam ratings to get somebody green, anyone caught doing that would be kicked off DefaultTrust anyway making their trust worthless.

Also VIP members never go into red only orange the negative ratings show as orange but their positive always stays green.

Not true. Tradefortress is also in the red. Status doesn't matter.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=67058
529  Economy / Gambling / Re: Dooglus "AMA" on: June 07, 2014, 10:37:49 AM
Well, what you guys are talking about isn't really marginale, since that is about doubling your bet after each losing bet so that your next bet will 'make up' for all of your losses to that point. I think that "Risk Spreading" is a better name for the method described by dooglus.

Correct me if I am wrong Tongue

No, I'm pretty sure your right. See the thing is that your idealised aims are different - in martingale you are looking to make a profit and so you continue to play until you either make that profit or go bust. In comparison in this case you play to reach a certain specified goal. The problem I have in my head, is that probability doesn't give a crap about your aims it's irrespective of it so your expectation shouldn't change with differing betting patterns. But the maths clearly contradicts this. So right now I'm not really too sure what to tihnk.
530  Economy / Gambling / Re: Where are the EV+ casino games? on: June 07, 2014, 10:22:55 AM
Okay , what about the EV of the martingale strategy ?
If I want to get from 1 BTC to 2 BTC , would martingale betting or betting one single time be better ?

I wonder if it is just a myth propagated by casino owners Tongue

If your solely looking for move from 1 to 2 or n to k then split bets should give you a better expectation than a single massive bet (if the math in my previous post is right). I'm not sure how this maths works out with the idea that martingale is bad, I'm not sure whether it's bad because of expectation or because your more probable to go bust.
531  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Offline Transactions With Imported Private Key on: June 07, 2014, 10:15:02 AM
deseed creates a wallet file with the extension .seedless. What happens when you run it?

I'm just running 'deseed' in the console, so I'm not sure if the syntax is right. But this is what I get back.

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Traceback (most recent call last):
NameError: name 'deseed' is not defined

I'm getting the feeling I'm doing it wrong. What is the correct syntax for deseeding a wallet?
532  Economy / Gambling / Re: Where are the EV+ casino games? on: June 07, 2014, 10:09:10 AM
Yes.

And you're the first person who responded in such an open manner.

Everyone else just tells me I'm wrong.  Smiley

I cannot believe I'm saying this but I think you might be right.

I went ahead and played around with a case where the player starts at 1 wants to move to 2 by making two bets (of any size between 0-1 inclusive). Hence I went to go graph the function to see if it was true and I got this:

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/obkfifgbnl

Where y = probability of succeeding
and d = the value of the first initial bet

Notice how at both d = 0 and d= 1 the probability is 0.495 as expected (as you are either betting nothing then 1 or 1 then nothing and both are equivalent cases). And in between you get a probability higher than the 0.495 offered for the single bet.

I've tried a few set values for cases where you split your value up to more than two and you do get a better result. I can only theorise that this is because as your bet size approaches 0 with the number of bets approaching infinity your expectation approaches 1.

However, what I do not understand at the present is why this is so. I almost fell out of my chair when the numbers came out (I checked like 6 times), as it's inferring that you can get better than what the house 'technically' offers. The problem with this is that your expectation is better than just flat betting and logically that doesn't make sense. Both should have the same expectation.

I'm going to mull it over.
533  Economy / Digital goods / Re: WTS primedice.com betting bot unlike any other on: June 07, 2014, 08:35:27 AM
I am selling a bot for primedice.com. i know the website already has a bot built in but what i offer is much different and there for greatly increases your chances of winning with said bot.

Mathematically impossible. Please stop selling this, it is a SCAM.

Secondly, I would advise against anyone trying this, more than likely it is a keylogger to gain your credentials to the site so OP can go ahead and steal your coins.
534  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to make a coldwallet with electrum on linux but offline? on: June 07, 2014, 06:45:12 AM
*Edit: just realized that you are on a linux machine.

The problem is that you need to install electrum first and that must currently happen online. see also here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=416881.0

The security part is that you take that version of Linux (in the guide its ubuntu, but mint is similar) to an offline PC, create your key there, so the key has never been online.

Or you could just download the compressed tarball and extract it then compile it from there. You can get the tarball at the top here: https://electrum.org/download.html

Just use some google-fu to work out how to compile programs from source (it's just a few terminal commands which should be easy if you're smart enough to use Linux).
535  Other / Meta / Re: Hacked account — problems with understanding the recovery process on: June 07, 2014, 06:39:55 AM
Hi, I assumed I had just forgotten my password after changing it as nobody ever used it for anything.  Now someone is trying to sell things with my name. 

All I've ever posted was my Darkcoin address, and I sent the info to the moderator.  I probably won't get help because it's not a bitcoin address I did it with.

Anyway, sorry for disappearing, I was happier forgetting about it (and assuming it was my own fault) because otherwise I get upset, as I have an issue with anxiety, it hurts.

But now that someone has shown they took control over my account, I'm going to have to do something... Someone suggested I do negative feedback and link somewhere, probably here.

Thank you all for your help.  Again, sorry I disappeared.  I just don't want people scammed on my account, or any account for that matter, but with my name, it's quite upsetting!

Can Darkcoin sign and verify messages like Bitcoin can? You'll have to do some research (in all probability it's unlikely) but that might give some credence to your claim. The only one who can help you is theymos, the mods cannot help you regain control of your account.

If you're not too attached to that account, my advice would be to use your new one and get someone (preferably on DefaultTrust) to neg rep the old one so that people are warned about it.

536  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Does there any online service that sells paypal for bitcoins? on: June 07, 2014, 06:34:52 AM
Either deal on localbitcoins with people who have crap tons of trusted feedback or try the currency exchange subforum over here with, once again, people with a boatload of positive trust so you don't get scammed by people who want to chargeback the second you send the coins. How urgently do you need the cash?
537  Economy / Lending / Re: Need 0.35 Loan, will pay back 0.45 on: June 07, 2014, 06:29:44 AM
I need a loan of 0.35 to have enough for an order on BFL, will pay back 0.45 on 6/9/14. I have full verification on Coinbase but need to deposit funds on Monday, will send coins on Tuesday.

What are you buying on BFL? Last I heard they have been having numerous and extensive delays with their vaporware...

Anyway, do you have any collateral to offer?
538  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | 600M+ Bets | 350k+ BTC Wagered | Free BTC | 1% Edge | Instant on: June 07, 2014, 06:23:37 AM
Just hit 150+ rolls under 90 and did not win one bet, busted around 2BTC
can anyone tell me how this is even statistically possible? this has not happened once in my lifetime on any gambling site until now.

As in you lost 150 bets in a row of which you were betting with a 90% chance to win?

If that's the case that is so statistically improbable that I would seriously question the fairness of PD, but on the other hand it's far more likely I've misinterpreted. Could you please confirm whether I have in fact thought about this correctly?
539  Bitcoin / Electrum / Offline Transactions With Imported Private Key on: June 07, 2014, 06:16:02 AM
I've been wondering whether it's possible/ever will be possible to sign transactions offline but with imported private keys instead of key generated from the seed?

It's been stated it can be done. But the 'deseed' function doesn't seem to be working and I'm not too sure whether the functionality for this was removed.

yes, you can do it if you create your watching-only wallet with the 'deseed' command, from the wallet containing the imported keys

Would anyone know whether it can be done?
540  Economy / Speculation / Re: Who wishes they had bought bitcoin when it was $540 or so? on: June 07, 2014, 05:15:08 AM
If you're here for the long haul then there really isn't anything wrong with buying now and waiting for the price to eventually rise (as Bitcoin gains traction and the necessary supporting infrastructure is created and refined). Of course, if you're expecting another bubble and it to burst you could try getting in at the bottom of the bubble, but for all you know that bottom could still be higher than where we are now (same with the $150 to $1000 bubble - we never saw it reach $150 again).
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