Yes, I thought about it, but somehow I wanted to give them an additional deadline compared to what they promised the campaign manager. I take into account some possible unforeseen circumstances, even if this is what hugeblack mentioned.
However, I would encourage decodx as the OP on this topic and one of the potential victims of ww, to create a flag against them. It should be more of a warning and to reduce the damage and potential new victims. I will support such a flag, I will also be happy to withdraw my support if there is a positive resolution to the whole matter.

Whirlwind svakako nije ni blizu bio dominantan poput CM, ne ocekujem neki ozbiljniji potres. Samo je sada sansa za ostale mixere da dodju do kvalitetnijih postera u njihovim kampanjama.


Ovo je bas lose sa zarobljenim novcem. Treba pokusati napraviti resenje sa minerjones koji drzi nesto njihovih sredstava kao escrow.

btw. Pitanje za vas ucesnike ww kampanje, ukoliko se nekako ozivi ova kampanja, hocete li nastaviti sa njom ili trazite nesto stabilnije?

I don't see a problem if the funds from the escrow were used to settle the user, regardless of the fact that it was initially planned for the review campaign. Which, by the way, was finished a long time ago. The problem is that it is difficult to prove how much someone had/tried to withdraw because there is no irrefutable evidence for that. All they have is a letter of guarantee or notes, but that can very easily be forged, which will certainly be tempting to scammers.
Also, after the withdrawal request, the balance going to be 0, so in the event that the escrow gets direct access to the private key, it will not be able to determine the owner and amount of funds with certainty.

---

This is not true. You haven't read anything, because if you had, you would know that the unavailability of the Whirlwind website is not the main problem.
Read again, Sir.


The problem with the clearnet whirlwind page has been going on for over a month now, and considering your insistence on it, I'm pretty sure you've never used Whirlwind, at least not in the last month.
Why do you act as a victim in this case? Why do you say "We"?

The purpose of presenting unmerited posts is for the admin (theymos, or whoever decides) to see your perception of which post deserves merit. Ordinary members, i.e. non-merit sources, can give earned merit at their own discretion, unlike sources that have a greater obligation towards rationality in order not to waste free merits.

I would not trust what you are writing.
The page you promote is completely incompetent, and does it offer any more information? All the mixers you mention are totally anonymous and seem to use the same script with a slightly different choice of colors and fonts. Somehow I got the impression that you are behind this, and the whole thing is an attempt at fraud. It's the same thing with the wallets you promote here.
Clearnet mixers are a problem, but Mixers that require registering an account are ok, wtf?

Quoting for reference

I personally consider influencers a big misconception. They certainly did not gain their influence exclusively with good and accurate information, and for a monetary reward, they will publish anything. Their modus operandi is to publish bombastic news the real truth is not the most important for influencers.

Once again, to be clear, it is not my intention to defend this exchange, even based on my intuition, I think they are closer to the description "scam" than trusted. But that's just my opinion, and I can't make accusations just based on my feelings.
Of course, there is no possibility for me to send any deposit there, certainly not $16m like some smart influencers who share pieces of advice.

Honestly, I didn't like the whole idea of staking on their platform from the beginning. I see every mixer as a platform that should serve as simply as possible and in the shortest time. When we add to that the regular difficulties and risks for each mixer, holding Bitcoin there is a bad idea for users.
I talked about it at the beginning of the implementation of this idea

decodx, In your case, I would be patient for a while longer, considering the last communication between the campaign manager and the Whirlwind representative. Take into account the possible time difference, so accept a maximum waiting time. You certainly have every right to ask for your money, it's somehow especially bad when you lose money that you entrusted to someone. Regardless of whether it is $100 or $5000 or even more.
I didn't use their service after the introduction of anonymity mining, but are there any traces that you can use to prove the last unsuccessful withdrawal? In case of a refund from a third ^escrow party.

This thing seems a bit of a trick. In the worst case, if you can't control whether they don't deliver you the most unfavourable exchange rate, you should at least add a warning about things like this.

A few days ago, I saw this HoBit exchanger in your monitoring, but now I can't find it. Does this mean that you excluded them from monitoring because of this manipulation, or am I just not doing the search well? I looked for it on the list https://www.bestchange.com/list.html

Royse777 and Sinbad.io team, how will the best design be chosen? Will it be your choice or will you leave it to the forum members?
I can already see several quite good solutions, it would be a pity if they are not used.

I completely agree that you should be extremely careful here, at least until some time passes and the service continues to work without issue.
The problem happened because a significant part of the team lost access due to travel, I think that without access they cannot determine the exact amount of damage.

I haven't tried it, but is there a limited number of PIN attempts and for example what happens after 5 incorrect attempts in a row?
If there is no other recovery method, the app should not lock. Enabling an unlimited number of attempts is again not a good solution from a security point of view.

Here is the official Bitget signature campaign https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462250.0
As far as I can see, none of the ones you listed are officially campaign participants. But it would not be the first time that we have a private campaign where users shill for a brand.
And yes, it seems to be organized (or one person manages all accounts) because after being inactive since July, all accounts have actively started writing in the same way about Bitget. I will probably tag them all.

So, you open scam accusations based on one YouTuber's opinion and one Tweet from an unknown person? Did you find everything about this disputed case, surely Bitget gave some explanations about the reason for the dispute with this user. for a correct assessment, it is necessary to hear both sides, right?


Can you make up your mind, are you hearing about Bitget for the first time or are you using them for small trades?

---

To be clear, I have no relation to Bitget exchange, I don't even have an account there, so this is not a defence of their name. I just don't like blanket accusations and guesswork.

The key thing you wrote was, "due to a shortage of users". if that's really the case and you don't have enough interested users, then the idea itself is not good enough.


I'm not sure how unique the idea is, for example, I've seen similar platforms before where participants placed bets on the weather forecast. And that idea ended ingloriously like yours.

Even without communication with the owner, the campaign worked until (last 5 days) there were problems with the withdrawal of funds.
The manager did what was necessary to protect the campaign participants and put them on pause.


Feel free to visit their ANN and you will get most of the answers to your questions, although the OP summarized the whole problem.

The whirlwind campaign is currently being stopped due to problems with withdrawal and the unavailability of the owner.
As important as this information is for this thread, it is probably more important for everyone to refrain from using this service until further notice.

How long do you want it to be?
Mixing Bitcoin as a service is thought to increase privacy, with as few links to the final owner of the coin as possible. A very important part of the whole process is the deletion of all logs and information about finished transactions.

CloudFlare does not offer hosting, but a completely different type of service. You mixed up some things, but it can be assumed what you wanted to say.
If you insist on privacy and do not want Cloudflare to collect your data, this mixer also has its own TOR version of the website, so you can go there and have complete privacy.

That's the most likely scenario. Backlinks and references from Bitcointalk are always welcome to boost the website. By opening specific topics, he is just trying to get to the meter in order to be able to put a link in his signature.
Later, such accounts are always valuable to bounty spammers.

I would add that the clearnet website has been offline for quite a long time now. Maybe it's not crucial considering that the .onion site is online, but it still seems neglected.


It's a good thing that minerjones keeps $40k in escrow, so there is a possibility for forum users to be compensated. Maybe he can confirm the current status of those funds.[/list]