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1481  Other / Meta / Ads in posts on: August 21, 2014, 09:08:07 AM
It occurred to me that I should write a little about this in case anyone's wondering about what dogie's doing, or why other people are getting banned for somewhat similar activity:

Ads are typically not allowed in posts (outside of the signature area) because they are annoying and off-topic. It is especially disallowed to put ads or signatures at the bottom of all of your posts. Except for traditional valedictions, which are tolerated but discouraged, signatures are for the signature area only.

However, if you are using the forum as a publishing platform to host something really substantial and useful, selling ads in that substantial work is allowed. To be eligible for this, your post must be in a topic that you started, and your post must be substantial and long enough to make the ad seem entirely insignificant. If in doubt, ask me.
1482  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Child boards on: August 21, 2014, 08:34:10 AM
You have a whole section now, so you can create new topics for this sort of thing! Smiley

I recommend an altcoin board.
1483  Other / Meta / Re: @theymos Can you add clean urls? on: August 21, 2014, 08:21:32 AM
Changing the URL structure would be difficult. This may be improved in the new forum software, but it's not a priority.

It oughtn't to. Browsers aren't supposed to send cross-domain Referers from HTTPS sites, since the URL may contain sensitive information (such as session IDs).

Most/all browsers send referrers if the new site is also HTTPS. (Which makes no sense, really.)
1484  Local / Other languages/locations / MOVED: Indonesia (Indonesian) on: August 21, 2014, 06:36:55 AM
This topic has been moved to Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian).
1485  Economy / Auctions / Advertise on this forum - Round 130 on: August 21, 2014, 04:53:03 AM
The forum sells ad space in the area beneath the first post of every topic page. About 25% of ad income goes to the forum moderators as thanks for all of their work. (There are many moderators, so each moderator gets only a small amount -- moderators should be seen as volunteers, not employees.) The rest is stored in the forum's treasury (verifiably), where it sits until the forum needs it.

Ads are allowed to contain any non-annoying HTML/CSS style. No images, JavaScript, or animation (no marquee or blinking). Ads must appear 3 or fewer lines tall in my browser (Firefox, 700px wide). Ad text may not contain lies, misrepresentation, or inappropriate language. Ads may not link directly to any NSFW page. Ads may be rejected for other reasons, and I may remove ads even after they are accepted.

There are 10 total ad slots which are randomly rotated. So one ad slot has a one in ten chance of appearing. Eight of the slots are for sale here. Ads appear only on topic pages with more than one post, and only for people using the default theme.

The ad lasts at least 7 days starting from when I put it up. (However, if you look at the ad history you'll see that ads usually get at least 8 days, and sometimes as many as 10, but this is random and definitely not guaranteed.)


Exact historical impression counts per slot:

Info about the current ad slots:

Ad blocking

Hero members, Donators, VIPs, and moderators have the ability to disable ads. I don't expect many people to use this option. These people don't increase the impression counts for your ads.

I try to bypass Adblock Plus filters as much as possible, though this is not guaranteed. It is difficult or impossible for ABP filters to block the ad space itself without blocking posts. However, filters can match against the URLs in your links, your CSS classes and style attributes, and the HTML structure of your ads.

To prevent matches against URLs: I have some JavaScript which fixes links blocked by ABP. You must tell me if you want this for your ads. When someone with ABP and JavaScript enabled views your ads, your links are changed to a special randomized URL which redirects to your site when visited. People without ABP are unaffected, even if they don't have JavaScript enabled. The downsides are:
- ABP users will see the redirection link when they hover over the link, even if they disable ABP for the forum.
- Getting referral stats might become even more difficult.
- Some users might get a warning when redirecting from https to http.

To prevent matching on CSS classes/styles: Don't use inline CSS. I can give your ad a CSS class that is randomized on each pageload, but you must request this.

To prevent matching against your HTML structure: Use only one <a> and no other tags if possible. If your ads get blocked because of matching done on something inside of your ad, you are responsible for noticing this and giving me new ad HTML.

Auction rules

Post your bids in this thread. Prices must be stated in BTC per slot. You must state the max number of slots you want. When the auction ends, the highest bidders will have their slots filled until all eight slots are filled.

I reserve the right to reject bids, even days after the bid is made. In particular, bids from people with less than 15 activity points are likely to be rejected. I recommend not getting into a bidding war with someone who has less than 15 activity points, as their bids might not be accepted, but your latest bids will still stand. If you need to know right away whether someone's bids will be accepted, PM me.

So if someone bids for 8 slots @ 5 BTC and this is the highest bid, then he'll get all 8 slots. If the two highest bids are 8 slots @ 4 BTC and 1 slot @ 5 BTC, then the first person will get 7 slots and the second person will get 1 slot.

The notation "2 @ 5" means 2 slots for 5 BTC each. Not 2 slots for 5 BTC total.

- When you post a bid, the bids in your previous posts are considered to be automatically canceled. You can put multiple bids in one post, however.
- All bid prices must be evenly divisible by 0.05.
- The bidding starts at 0.50.
- I will end the auction at an arbitrary time no more than 12 days from now. (I will probably end the auction 1-3 days before the ads are scheduled to go up.)
- If two people bid at the same price, the person who bid first will have his slots filled first.
- Bids are considered invalid and will be ignored if they do not specify both a price and a max quantity, or if they could not possibly win any slots

If these rules are confusing, look at some of the past forum ad auctions to see how it's done.

You must pay for your slots within 24 hours of receiving the payment address. Otherwise your slots may be sold to someone else. I will send you the payment information via forum PM from this account ("theymos", user ID 35). You might receive false payment information from scammers pretending to be me. They might even have somewhat similar usernames. Be careful.
1486  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 129 on: August 21, 2014, 04:45:11 AM
By the way, I unfortunately didn't get around to setting up the cheap-ad-slot thing this week as I was planning, so that probably won't happen until 2 weeks from now.
1487  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 129 on: August 21, 2014, 04:42:43 AM
Auction ended. Final result:
Slots BTC/Slot Person
1 2.50 TheGull
1 2.50 icside
2 2.05 MariaQin
1 2.00 sunxiaoxiao
1 1.55 jtoomim
2 1.50 GAW Miners

2 @ 2.55

You're too new. PM me first next time.

1 @ 2.51

Bids must be evenly divisible by 0.05. I will interpret your bid as 1 @ 2.50.
1488  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Is the wiki incorrect about length of addresses. on: August 21, 2014, 04:22:45 AM

27 characters

26 characters

This fact always surprises people. Wink
1489  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestion: Local > Bahasa Indonesia on: August 21, 2014, 04:17:08 AM
Agreed. Local sections are usually named after languages. How do you say Indonesian (as in the language) in Indonesian? Is that what "Bahasa Indonesia" is?
1490  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Lifecycle of a Message on: August 20, 2014, 06:50:37 PM
If an unknown message is received (it will hit the final else statement in ProcessMessage() and be ignored) will it still be propagated to other nodes?


Is pnode->PushMessage() enough to broadcast a message? From what I understand, it adds the message to the queue of outgoing messages, which are then gathered by    SendMessages() and sent.

PushMessage sends a message to a peer. Only certain message types are then broadcast to the rest of the network.

Is it possible to assign an expiration date to an individual message? So all nodes know to stop propagating it at that time?

No, but that's not necessary. Nodes don't propagate duplicate information, so block/tx/addr broadcasts reach every network node in a matter of minutes and then stop propagating.

How can you reject an incoming message and make sure it doesn't get relayed or processed?

Just ignore it when you receive it. ProcessMessage would probably be a good place to put additional logic of this sort.
1491  Other / Meta / Re: New legendary rank? on: August 19, 2014, 11:08:11 PM
All right, who's got the highest activity level? theymos at 1666?

1492  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 129 on: August 19, 2014, 10:07:42 PM
Note that I will accept icside's bids.
1493  Other / Meta / Re: What is the forum's policy on blatant software license abuse? on: August 19, 2014, 07:01:59 PM
GPL is not about protecting intellectual property for one person

I didn't say that it is. I don't doubt that GPL proponents are interested in helping the community as a whole. But that doesn't mean that the GPL is right.

With normal copyright, I can't distribute your work at all. With copyleft, I can distribute it, but I'm forced to do additional work to distribute the source code. The latter is much better, but you're still unjustly exerting control over my real property to protect your intellectual property. It is irrelevant whether you intend the license to benefit just yourself or the community as a whole -- it's still wrong to violently (via government) force me to contribute to your project just because I modified/used your copyrighted code.

Open source is often good, but the GPL is not. I use permissive licenses when publishing my own stuff, and the new forum software will use the MIT license.
1494  Other / Meta / Re: What would happen if you donate 50 bitcoin to the forum these days? on: August 19, 2014, 03:18:38 AM
Same thing has happened on the generic donate address, bar the odd huge transaction which doesnt look like a donation. I saw the same thing actually. Donations were maybe $100 a month, but immediately went to 0 as soon as the price went up.

The monthly "donations" to that address are forum revenue from ads, unproxyban fees, and (historically) Donator/VIP donations. I send it there to provide transparency. (However, note that the balance of 17RTT... is not a meaningful number.)

Real donations are indeed very rare. Which is fine. The forum has plenty of money.
1495  Other / Meta / Re: What would happen if you donate 50 bitcoin to the forum these days? on: August 18, 2014, 03:41:44 AM
You would get normal VIP status.
1496  Other / Meta / Re: Legendary coin color on: August 18, 2014, 02:46:29 AM
I changed it to dark blue.
1497  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: August 18, 2014, 02:38:41 AM
I tend to trust BitcoinEXpress's intentions, and I think that he would be reasonably impartial, but I'm not convinced that the altcoin section needs more moderation, and I'm not convinced that BitcoinEXpress would be the best possible moderator there in any case.
1498  Other / Meta / Re: What is the forum's policy on blatant software license abuse? on: August 18, 2014, 02:25:38 AM
I am opposed to all intellectual property, including copyleft licenses.

From a natural rights perspective: Intellectual property is not real property because it has no scarcity, and there is therefore no such thing as intellectual property rights. If we lived in a world without scarcity, where anything could be conjured up instantly with no cost, then the concept of property would be nonsensical because there would never be any conflict between people who wanted to use the same thing. Such a world is impossible for physical items because some things like original Gutenberg bibles or bitcoins are inherently scarce, but we already live in a post-scarcity world for information. I can copy and use any data without stopping you from using your copy of the data. So you have no right to prevent me from using my real property to duplicate and distribute any data, even if you created it, and even if the data is only protected by a copyleft license. (Unless I explicitly agreed to follow your conditions, but a notice in a file is not a contract.)

Source code licenses are especially ridiculous because you're saying that you own the result of some instructions that you've published, even though you don't even publish these results. (Source code being instructions for the compiler in producing object code.)

From a consequentialist perspective: If there was no copyright, then the producers of copyrighted content would have less incentive to produce content, but the free availability of ideas would probably inspire even more innovation and prosperity. In cgminer's case, maybe these hardware companies would have had to charge more for their hardware or been unable to create a product at all if they'd been required to publish their changes. I don't see how the world would be be improved if these companies were forced to expend resources to publish their modified cgminer code. (Would the changes even be useful for anyone else? I imagine that they're pretty hardware-specific.)

(I'm pretty bad at arguing things like this, so I doubt I convinced anyone here, but hopefully you at least understand my position.)

I recognize that it'd be ethically OK for the forum to support IP even if government-enforced IP is unethical, but I believe that fighting IP is good here for the same reasons that it's good elsewhere. Therefore, copyright violations should not be removed from the forum except where required by law. (Moderators should not deal with legal stuff, though. If posts on the forum violate cgminer-related copyright, send me a DMCA complaint and I will deal with it if necessary.)
1499  Economy / Service Discussion / Bitfetch needs competition on: August 15, 2014, 05:46:49 PM
I used bitfetch every now and then, and it worked OK for a while, but it often doesn't download torrents correctly anymore and it looks in general like it's mostly an abandoned project.

Basically bitfetch is a seedbox, but with pay-per-GB instead of a monthly fee, and it's intended mainly for downloading rather than seeding. I like this model a lot because I don't download enough torrents to justify a continuing seedbox subscription, and it's much faster than downloading+seeding a torrent on my rather slow Internet connection.

It'd be nice if someone would create an alternative to bitfetch. I'd definitely use it.
1500  Other / Meta / Re: Legendary coin color on: August 14, 2014, 06:43:19 AM
I have zero artistic talent, so if you want something other than a simple color, you'll need to create the image.

If you create an image, you can modify more than just that half-coin. I did that originally only because more than a half coin's worth of color is distractingly colorful. Colorizing half a coin doesn't symbolize anything. If you create an image, make sure it's not more distracting than the normal colored half-coin.

I have set up the template, so you can choose any color you like. I've played around with a few, as you can see below.

Those look very nice by themselves, but I think that they might be jarring if actually used because your coin icons look similar to but not exactly the same as the current coin icons. The current icons don't have the BTC. Still, I added the first two to the poll.
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