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641  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 277 on: May 17, 2019, 08:58:02 PM
Bids must be evenly divisible by 0.02. I round down invalid amounts.

9 @ 0.24

You have negative trust. I won't accept your ads until that's resolved.

Current status:
Slots BTC/Slot Person
9 0.26 Coinzilla.io

The auction continues.
642  Other / Meta / Re: The current permaban situation is ridiculous on: May 14, 2019, 04:23:54 AM
All plagiarism bans are human-checked.

There's *no fucking way* anyone that has spent here years and has 1000+ comments knows from memory every single post they made. Im sure most of these cases genuinely don't know what they are banned for.

You should know that you haven't plagiarized because you would never do such a thing.
643  Other / Meta / Re: The invite and account section should be locked for newbies on: May 13, 2019, 08:08:07 PM
I don't like blanket-restricting newbies from doing things. Report the posts selling KYC accounts without an explanation as to why they're not hacked -- newbies doing this should be nuked on sight. Also report excessive bumping or topics-per-user. If reports aren't handled well, I'll add another moderator (probably based largely on report stats).
644  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Grin Observer - GRN/BTC - Price Movement and Discussion on: May 12, 2019, 04:08:00 AM
A bit OT, but did you donated the 50 btc?  Wink

No, that wasn't me.
645  Economy / Reputation / Re: What's wrong with Vod, and Hhampuz on: May 12, 2019, 04:01:05 AM
I was disgusted by the reckless and vicious doxing in this case, where:
 - The evidence was very thin.
 - Even if all of the allegations were true, it'd likely result only in civil penalties, not criminal.
 - The whole thing was motivated merely by past arguments. OgNasty never caused Vod to even lose anything, as far as I know. An utterly ridiculous & disproportionate escalation.
 - It's based on the premise that purely statutory crimes are directly unethical, which I don't agree with at all, though I'm willing to mostly look past this as subjective.

It's good that Vod came to his senses on this after the fact, though doing it at all certainly blemishes his reputation in my mind, and I added to my notes the fact that those users merited such a post. Meriting it is saying basically that we need more posts like this on the forum, and we do not need more posts like this on the forum.

Red-trusting Vod over this is an appropriate usage of red-trust, since his actions here are highly trust-relevant. But I tend to think that since he edited his post and seems to genuinely regret at least the public doxxing part, it'd be best to forgive.

For the meriters, I can understand the argument for red-trust, but I tend to think that it's at the wrong level. If the meriter was meriting it because they were actively thinking, "I want to make the forum really vicious, where everyone is constantly tearing each other apart for stupid things, and this post moves in that direction," even that's not really a trust-relevant motive, just a very unhelpful motive. And probably the meriters were thinking more innocent things than that.
646  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Grin Observer - GRN/BTC - Price Movement and Discussion on: May 12, 2019, 03:02:31 AM
I can't find the post now but I think theymos mentioned that it was 5 in 2 months. It's been ~4 months now so perhaps it's up to 10 Smiley. I was considering paying with grin for my bot account but it was just too much hassle to bring up my semi-cold wallet... ended up paying with BTC.

It was just an initial burst, there's only been one more since then. 6 out of 1166 total payments.

Someone just today reported to me that they were unable to send an amount with grin's 9-digit precision. It sounds like whatever wallet they were using only supported 8-digit precision. They haven't yet responded to my question as to which wallet it was. If it's a very popular wallet, maybe this has impacted people's ability to pay via grin.



I still think grin has value to lose since it's so inflationary. In early 2020, inflation will settle down a bit and apparently a GUI will be released, so that's a good guess at an inflection point. But inflation will still be a huge influence for a long time, so I'm not really expecting it to explosively "moon". For example, I think it'll take years to reach $20 again, assuming it survives long enough to do so.
647  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Congressman Brad Sherman calls for a bill to ban all cryptocurrencies on: May 10, 2019, 03:07:29 PM
This guy is the worst, an ultra-statist. He's been anti-Bitcoin for at least a couple of years, since I've heard this stuff from him several times before, and he's also consistently anti-freedom in all other areas. Someone should set up a dark money nonprofit in his district with a mission of "educating voters about the problems with restricting freedom, such as banning cryptocurrencies" or something like that, and accept worldwide BTC donations.
648  Economy / Auctions / Advertise on this forum - Round 277 on: May 10, 2019, 02:52:03 AM
The forum sells ad space in the area beneath the first post of every topic page. This income is used primarily to cover hosting costs and to pay moderators for their work (there are many moderators, so each moderator gets only a small amount -- moderators should be seen as volunteers, not employees). Any leftover amount is typically either saved for future expenses or otherwise reinvested into the forum or the ecosystem.

Ads are allowed to contain any non-annoying HTML/CSS style. No images, JavaScript, or animation. Ads must appear 3 or fewer lines tall in my browser (Firefox, 900px wide). Ad text may not contain lies, misrepresentation, or inappropriate language. Ads may not link directly to any NSFW page. No ICOs[1], banks, funds, or anything else that a person can be said to "invest" in; I may very rarely make exceptions if you convince me that you are ultra legit, but don't count on it. Ads may be rejected for other reasons, and I may remove ads even after they are accepted.

There are 10 total ad slots which are randomly rotated. So one ad slot has a one in ten chance of appearing. Nine of the slots are for sale here. Ads appear only on topic pages with more than one post, and only for people using the default theme.

Duration

- Your ads are guaranteed to be up for at least 7 days.
- I usually try to keep ads up for no more than 8 or 9 days.
- Sometimes ads might be up for longer, but hopefully no longer than 12 days. Even if past rounds sometimes lasted for long periods of time, you should not rely on this for your ads.

Stats

Exact historical impression counts per slot:
https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats

Info about the current ad slots:
https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adinfo

Ad blocking

Hero/Legendary members, Donators, VIPs, and moderators have the ability to disable ads. I don't expect many people to use this option. These people don't increase the impression stats for your ads.

I try to bypass Adblock Plus filters as much as possible, though this is not guaranteed. It is difficult or impossible for ABP filters to block the ad space itself without blocking posts. However, filters can match against the URLs in your links, your CSS classes and style attributes, and the HTML structure of your ads.

To prevent matches against URLs: I have some JavaScript which fixes links blocked by ABP. You must tell me if you want this for your ads. When someone with ABP and JavaScript enabled views your ads, your links are changed to a special randomized bitcointalk.org URL which redirects to your site when visited. People without ABP are unaffected, even if they don't have JavaScript enabled. The downsides are:
- ABP users will see the redirection link when they hover over the link, even if they disable ABP for the forum.
- Getting referral stats might become even more difficult.
- Some users might get a warning when redirecting from https to http.

To prevent matching on CSS classes/styles: Don't use inline CSS. I can give your ad a CSS class that is randomized on each pageload, but you must request this.

To prevent matching against your HTML structure: Use only one <a> and no other tags if possible. If your ads get blocked because of matching done on something inside of your ad, you are responsible for noticing this and giving me new ad HTML.

Designing ads

Make sure that your ads look good when you download and edit this test page:
https://bitcointalk.org/ad_test.html
Also read the comments in that file.

Images are not allowed no matter how they are created (CSS, SVG, or data URI). Occasionally I will make an exception for small logos and such, but you must get pre-approval from me first.

The maximum size of any one ad is 51200 bytes.

I will send you more detailed styling rules if you win slots in this auction (or upon request).

Auction rules

You must be at least a Jr Member to bid. If you are not a Jr Member and you really want to bid, you should PM me first. Tell me in the PM what you're going to advertise. You might be required to pay some amount in advance. Everyone else: Please quickly PM newbies who try to bid here to warn them against impersonation scammers.

If you have never purchased forum ad space before, and it is not blatantly obvious what you're going to advertise, say what you're going to advertise in your first bid, or tell me in a PM.

Post your bids in this thread. Prices must be stated in BTC per slot. You must state the maximum number of slots you want. When the auction ends, the highest bidders will have their slots filled until all nine slots are filled.

So if someone bids for 9 slots @ 5 BTC and this is the highest bid, then he'll get all 9 slots. If the two highest bids are 9 slots @ 4 BTC and 1 slot @ 5 BTC, then the first person will get 8 slots and the second person will get 1 slot.

The notation "2 @ 5" means 2 slots for 5 BTC each. Not 2 slots for 5 BTC total.

- When you post a bid, the bids in your previous posts are considered to be automatically canceled. You can put multiple bids in one post, however.
- All bid prices must be evenly divisible by 0.02.
- The bidding starts at 0.02.
- I will end the auction at an arbitrary time. Unless I say otherwise, I typically try to end auctions within a few days of 10 days from the time of this post, but unexpected circumstances may sometimes force me to end the auction anytime between 4 and 22 days from the start. I have a small bias toward ending auctions on Fridays, Sundays, and Mondays.
- If two people bid at the same price, the person who bid first will have his slots filled first.
- Bids are considered invalid and will be ignored if they do not specify both a price and a max quantity, or if they could not possibly win any slots

If these rules are confusing, look at some of the past forum ad auctions to see how it's done.

I reserve the right to reject bids, even days after the bid is made.

Price flattening

At the end of the auction, after the winning bids are all determined, I will do a "price flattening" operation. This has no effect on which bids actually win. For each bid, in order of lowest to greatest price/slot, I will reduce each bid's price/slot to the highest value which is equal to or only the minimum increment greater than the next-lower bid. This allows you to bid higher prices without worrying so much, but you still mustn't bid more than you're willing to pay. Example:

Code:
This:
Slots  BTC/Slot  Person
    6      0.20       A
    1      0.16       B
    1      0.08       C
    1      0.08       D

Becomes:
Slots  BTC/Slot  Person
    6      0.12       A [step 4: reduced to 0.10+0.02=0.12]
    1      0.10       B [step 3: reduced to 0.08+0.02=0.10]
    1      0.08       C [step 2: same as the next-lowest, unchanged]
    1      0.08       D [step 1: the lowest bid is always unchanged]

Payment, etc.

You must pay for your slots within 24 hours of receiving the payment address. Otherwise your slots may be sold to someone else, and I might even give you a negative trust rating. I will send you the payment information via forum PM from this account ("theymos", user ID 35) after announcing the auction results in this thread. You might receive false payment information from scammers pretending to be me. They might even have somewhat similar usernames. Be careful.

[1]: For the purposes of forum ads, an ICO is any token, altcoin, or other altcoin-like thing which meets any of the following criteria: it is primarily run/backed by a company; it is substantially, fundamentally centralized in either operation or coin distribution; or it is not yet possible for two unprivileged users of the system to send coins directly to each other in a P2P way. The intention here is to allow community efforts to advertise things like Litecoin, but not to allow ICO funding, even when the ICO is disguised in various ways.
649  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 276 on: May 10, 2019, 02:48:31 AM
2 @ 0.09

Bids must be evenly divisible by 0.02. Usually I would round your bid down to 0.08, but that'd take you out of the auction, which I don't think you want. So I will just ignore this bid instead.

Auction ended, final result:
Slots BTC/Slot Person
2 0.10 ColorlessK
1 0.10 HatuSS
1 0.10 EthexBet
1 0.10 noordminers
1 0.10 BoXXoB
3 0.08 mindtrip
650  Other / Meta / Re: Cryptios on: May 10, 2019, 02:30:41 AM
Not sure why I found the use of the word "humans" in that sentence so funny. Only something non-human would refer to others as "the humans". I think the autonomous theymos AI needs more training data to better blend in with us lowly humans and avoid subtly revealing its true nature. Grin

Once Satoshi's ultimate plan is fulfilled, all will join me in abandoning the weakness of flesh.     Wink

@theymos, couldn't a lot of this be avoided if we had a 2FA system in place?  I know you don't want to use the google system, and I don't blame you, but what about a decentralized system like using a PGP public key to generate single-use passwords, and send PGP encrypted password recovery links to the registered email?

I know we've discussed this numerous times, and it's always been shutdown.  Forgive me if I'm beating a dead horse, but I think I would rather live the downsides of a 2FA system opposed to the downsides of farming out account recovery.

That wouldn't eliminate the need for manual recoveries; it might even increase it as people lose their second factor. 2FA would be nice, but IMO the email notifications provide many of the same benefits, so it's not high on my to-do list.
651  Other / Meta / Re: @theymos, I Suggest A New Section of Bitcointalk for 'Blockchain Developments' on: May 10, 2019, 02:16:21 AM
It's a meaningless fad.

Agreed. I've heard very few worthwhile use-cases for "blockchain tech". When companies say "blockchain", they usually mean "broadcast everything to everyone and expect them to store it", which doesn't scale and isn't a new concept anyway. The real application of blockchains - decentralized timestamping - can be very useful, but it's not a holy grail.

It reminds me of this (replace "cloud" with "blockchain"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ntPxdWAWq8
652  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 276 on: May 09, 2019, 03:43:31 AM
Note that Dkeys' bids are likely to be rejected.

Current status excluding Dkeys:
Slots BTC/Slot Person
2 0.10 ColorlessK
1 0.10 HatuSS
1 0.10 EthexBet
1 0.10 noordminers
1 0.10 BoXXoB
3 0.08 mindtrip

The auction continues.
653  Other / Meta / Re: Cryptios on: May 08, 2019, 09:20:53 PM
The account was security-locked, not "banned for sending stupid merit". The user would see a message saying "Your account is locked because it is suspected to be compromised, email ...". Then if they email and provide some evidence that it's not compromised, it'd be unlocked.

Locking without a recovery email can be appropriate in cases similar to this where the user woke up, their access had suspicious characteristics, and they immediately started doing suspicious things. If their access characteristics change from one week to the next, without a long period of inactivity, then I'd be more likely to assume by default that they're using someone else's computer or they sold their account (which is allowed), and I'd rely on a complaint email to move from this default assumption.

Cryptios's main purpose is recovering accounts, but they can also do minor patroller-type things. They are neither admins nor global moderators. They have access to IP/security logs (not PMs), but each of their accesses to private info are logged and per-day-limited; even if their access was compromised, the damage would be limited. In the past 7 days, they viewed the basic info/logs of 461 users and viewed the IP logs of 51 users.
654  Other / Meta / Re: @theymos is it true that you forced OG to remove Laudas tagg ? on: May 06, 2019, 08:00:25 PM
I pressured several people to remove inappropriate, unconstructive ratings amongst each other. When OgNasty replied telling me that he perceived real trust issues with Lauda, I responded:
If this is what you believe, then you shouldn't remove the rating, but then it wouldn't be fair for me to pressure Lauda to remove ratings against you. Personally, I find Lauda's history gray, not red. And the trust system is only going to work if there's some level of forgiveness and de-escalation. But if you really believe that Lauda isn't safe to deal with, then you should leave the rating.

Then there was an exchange between OgNasty and Lauda in which Lauda kept a laudably Cool cool head, and OgNasty was able to reach a point where he could feel OK removing the rating.

The ratings did all end up being removed, which I'm happy with, and I appreciate the willingness to de-escalate and forgive from the people involved in this case. The fact that this issue came up at all indicates that the trust system isn't working perfectly (and I am considering future system changes), but it's still a good outcome.
655  Other / Meta / Re: This altcoin is trying to trade merits ? Will theymos allow this ? on: May 05, 2019, 03:08:56 AM
Are the stable coins are not backed by the fiat currencies?

They typically are (or claim to), but that's not really the point. Most people never intend to trade the stablecoin for the underlying currency. The point is for it to have ~zero volatility so that you can use it as a non-position when trading.
656  Other / Meta / Re: This altcoin is trying to trade merits ? Will theymos allow this ? on: May 04, 2019, 10:24:56 PM
If they're just using merit as a metric for an airdrop, without requiring that anyone send merit, then I don't have a problem with that. It's totally centralized, obviously, but it's not a terrible way to do it.

What I dont understand is how can he guarantee or promise that the price of the token will be $1. It is not really that easy is it?

This is totally unrelated to this particular token, which I don't know anything about and only spent 30 seconds skimming, but you could do a stablecoin in a mostly-decentralized way like this:
 - Call the stablecoin "SSCN". There's also another token which is part of the same system called "SBND".
 - When the price is below $1, the system automatically creates x SBND tokens and sells them for SSCN tokens in an automatic auction process. This destroys SSCN coins, reducing the supply and therefore increasing the price.
 - When the price is above $1, the system automatically buys y SBND tokens in return for SSCN tokens in an automatic auction process. This creates SSCN coins, increasing the supply and therefore reducing the price.

(Speculators would buy SBND tokens if they think that SSCN is going to become more popular, and sell them if they think that SSCN is going to become less popular.)

A decentralized system cannot know anything about prices, so some centralized entity needs to provide SSCN's price to the system as an input. This is an unavoidable point of centralization. But everything else, such as determining x and y above and conducting the auctions, could be done automatically.
657  Other / Meta / Re: Don't over-create Trust Appeals; keep minds/ emotions stable. No more Red on: May 04, 2019, 05:07:09 AM
We have so many threads like this nowadays, people twerking for merits.

There are a lot of pointless "summarize something obvious" posts, but IMO btcsmlcmnr's summary added something.

Forgiveness and de-escalation are key to getting Trust working smoothly:
 - Forgiveness: Often people make fairly small mistakes, but then they seemingly get red-trusted for life. This isn't really fair, and it discourages participation due to paranoia: if you think that you have a 1% chance of running afoul of some unwritten rule and getting red-trusted for life, you might just avoid the marketplace altogether. Red trust should mostly be based on an evaluation of what the person is likely to do in the future moreso than a punishment/mark-of-shame.
 - De-escalation: If some people end up locked in a feud where they're only really giving negative trust to each other in retaliation for negative trust, then one of them should propose burying the hatchet and removing the negative trust. Otherwise it never gets resolved, and everyone is worse-off for it.
658  Other / Meta / Re: DT update log on: May 03, 2019, 11:58:10 PM
Old:
Code:
theymos
HostFat
gmaxwell
TECSHARE
phantastisch
OgNasty
SebastianJu
malevolent
qwk
Vod
Anduck
mprep
Dabs
Foxpup
philipma1957
Cyrus
monkeynuts
Welsh
TMAN
Lauda
Mitchell
vizique
Ticked
yogg
dbshck
TheNewAnon135246
hybridsole
greenplastic
hilariousandco
EcuaMobi
Avirunes
Lesbian Cow
willi9974
cryptodevil
suchmoon
Rmcdermott927
achow101
owlcatz
nutildah
minerjones
sapta
tmfp
BitcoinPenny
yahoo62278
zazarb
bill gator
LFC_Bitcoin
ezeminer
MaoChao
bones261
LoyceV
actmyname
WhiteManWhite
The Pharmacist
LeGaulois
DarkStar_
TheFuzzStone
Jet Cash
bL4nkcode
Lafu
Gunthar
Hhampuz
xtraelv
Kryptowerk
krogothmanhattan
Halab
Veleor
theyoungmillionaire
o_e_l_e_o
chimk
iasenko
coinlocket$
asche
DdmrDdmr
Alex_Sr
Hellmouth42
taikuri13
Coolcryptovator
1miau
ICOEthics

New:
Code:
theymos
HostFat
gmaxwell
TECSHARE
phantastisch
OgNasty
SebastianJu
malevolent
qwk
Vod
Anduck
mprep
Dabs
Foxpup
philipma1957
Cyrus
monkeynuts
Welsh
TMAN
Lauda
Mitchell
vizique
Ticked
yogg
dbshck
TheNewAnon135246
hybridsole
greenplastic
hedgy73
hilariousandco
EcuaMobi
Avirunes
buckrogers
Lesbian Cow
willi9974
cryptodevil
suchmoon
achow101
teeGUMES
owlcatz
nutildah
JohnUser
dazedfool
minerjones
sapta
tmfp
BitcoinPenny
yahoo62278
zazarb
bill gator
LFC_Bitcoin
ezeminer
MaoChao
bones261
LoyceV
actmyname
WhiteManWhite
The Pharmacist
LeGaulois
DarkStar_
TheFuzzStone
Jet Cash
bL4nkcode
Lafu
polymerbit
Hhampuz
xtraelv
Kryptowerk
krogothmanhattan
roycilik
Halab
kenzawak
Veleor
theyoungmillionaire
o_e_l_e_o
chimk
iasenko
coinlocket$
asche
DdmrDdmr
anonymousminer
Alex_Sr
morvillz7z
taikuri13
Coolcryptovator
lovesmayfamilis
1miau
ICOEthics
659  Economy / Reputation / Re: Trust Sytem or trusted member list Must Be Removed? on: May 01, 2019, 11:39:17 PM
Note that olcaytu2005 is banned on his request.


There are aspects of the trust system that are clearly less than ideal, some of which are probably solvable (and some probably not). But caucusing with people who have very clear and serious questionable behavior isn't going to help you convince people of anything. Anduck had a good case for the trust system being broken. You (cryptohunter) might've had some case for the trust system being broken if you had handled your initial trust issues with rationality and patience instead of absolutely losing your mind and throwing lies around, and even now I could imagine your red trust eventually being cleared if you were able to attain a stable mindset. olcaytu2005 on the other hand hasn't even attempted to defend himself against the accusations (from several independent widely-trusted members, based on publicly-available data) of knowingly assisting scams, so he does not have a good case for the trust system being broken.
660  Other / Meta / Cryptios on: May 01, 2019, 10:55:35 PM
FYI: The humans handling the new account recoveries system which was implemented late last year are a company that Cyrus created called Cryptios. alanst, 3dOOm, and Rizzrack -- the "mysterious newbies" who some people noticed -- are three of their employees. They've been doing a great job.

Although Cyrus created the company with bitcointalk.org in mind as their first customer, they are accepting additional customers. Their main specialization right now is high-security, social-engineering-proof customer support & community moderation.
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