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1161  Other / Meta / Re: what is the definition of an altcoin? on: September 05, 2013, 05:55:12 AM
The Namecoin thread predates the creation of the altcoin section by several months, so that particular thread is considered "grandfathered".
1162  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if dev-team is compromised? on: September 04, 2013, 07:54:48 PM
Because your handlers wouldn't allow you to say that, and if you reply, it's proof you are still alive and not in solitary confinement.

That's exactly what they want you to think.
1163  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if dev-team is compromised? on: September 04, 2013, 02:17:08 AM
Does bitcoin have some type of alert/alarm when a fork exists so I can avoid taking payments or sending during this time?

Yes. If there's an invalid chain longer than your current chain, Bitcoin will automatically give you a warning and go into safe mode. 0.8.5 (probably) will go into safe mode if a competing chain is even approaching a dangerous length.
1164  Bitcoin / Important Announcements / Bitcoin-Qt / bitcoind version 0.8.4 released, fixes critical DoS vulnerability on: September 04, 2013, 01:33:12 AM
Bitcoin-Qt version 0.8.4 is now available from:

This is a maintenance release to fix a critical bug and three
security issues; we urge all users to upgrade.

Please report bugs using the issue tracker at github:

How to Upgrade

If you are running an older version, shut it down. Wait
until it has completely shut down (which might take a few minutes for older
versions), then run the installer (on Windows) or just copy over
/Applications/Bitcoin-Qt (on Mac) or bitcoind/bitcoin-qt (on Linux).

If you are upgrading from version 0.7.2 or earlier, the first time you
run 0.8.4 your blockchain files will be re-indexed, which will take
anywhere from 30 minutes to several hours, depending on the speed of
your machine.

0.8.4 Release notes

Security issues

An attacker could send a series of messages that resulted in
an integer division-by-zero error in the Bloom Filter handling
code, causing the Bitcoin-Qt or bitcoind process to crash.
Bloom filters were introduced with version 0.8, so versions 0.8.0
through 0.8.3 are vulnerable to this critical denial-of-service attack.

A constant-time algorithm is now used to check RPC password
guess attempts; fixes

Implement a better fix for the fill-memory-with-orphan-transactions
attack that was fixed in 0.8.3. See
for a description of the weaknesses of the previous fix.

Bugs fixed

Fix multi-block reorg transaction resurrection.

Fix non-standard disconnected transactions causing mempool orphans.
This bug could cause nodes running with the -debug flag to crash.

OSX: use 'FD_FULLSYNC' with LevelDB, which will (hopefully!)
prevent the database corruption issues many people have
experienced on OSX.

Linux: clicking on bitcoin: links was broken if you were using
a Gnome-based desktop.

Fix a hang-at-shutdown bug that only affects users that compile
their own version of Bitcoin against Boost versions 1.50-1.52.

Other changes

Checkpoint at block 250,000 to speed up initial block downloads
and make the progress indicator when downloading more accurate.

Thanks to everybody who contributed to the 0.8.4 releases!

Pieter Wuille
Warren Togami
Patrick Strateman
Gregory Maxwell
Sergio Demian Lerner
Cory Fields
Matt Corallo
Gavin Andresen

1165  Other / Meta / Re: what is the definition of an altcoin? on: September 03, 2013, 04:43:54 AM
Namecoin is an altcoin. BitMessage has nothing to do with money, so it's not an altcoin. I don't know anything about mastercoin or bitshares. I moved some bitshares threads at the recommendation of someone who knows more than me after I skimmed the threads and I decided that it looks like an altcoin.
1166  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Foundation Board Election Details Announced on: September 02, 2013, 09:25:20 AM
I predict that these candidates will get the most votes in the primary, listed from most votes to least:

Elizabeth T. Ploshay
Joerg Platzer
Trace Mayer
Ben Davenport
Dmitry Murashchik
Luke Dashjr
Duncan Goldie-Scot

What do you think?
1167  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Foundation Board Election Details Announced on: September 02, 2013, 04:09:07 AM
Hopefully whoever wins will honestly report on how much direction he/she is capable of as a member of the board. Maybe I'm wrong, but my strong impression is that directors won't be doing much interesting/important decision-making.

I am surprised that you believe we need _more_ lobbying efforts really. I would vote Ben, unfortunately I do not have a vote Sad.

I don't see any harm in talking to politicians. It probably won't provide huge gains, but I doubt it will make the legal situation any worse.
1168  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will the US strike against Syria cause a world war? on: September 01, 2013, 08:36:00 PM
A common argument against anarcho-capitalism is that it's not as good at defending against external aggressors, but this situation demonstrates a major weakness in governments: The US government can take total control of Syria by just compromising the Syrian government, which is probably pretty easy. In an ancap region, there would be no central government to take control of; the aggressor would have to fight decentralized groups of combatants until they are all defeated. Compare Syria to Afghanistan, where the decentralized Taliban has still not been eradicated after 10+ years and billions of dollars.

I'd still like to see the current Syrian government successfully stand up against the US. Do you think there's any chance of this?
1169  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Foundation Board Election Details Announced on: September 01, 2013, 07:29:32 PM
I am impressed. Elizabeth apparently makes a great politician and communications manager. Her skills at using many words to say little, and answering questions with very long "feel-good" speeches that lack substance and never actually address the question, is very impressive. In fact, her words are such an inspiration, that I am now quite motivated to work pro-bono as an "individual" liaison, to represent the community to the foundation and vise versa (a position I am convinced will still be wide open after the election is over), even if I should I loose. Elizabeth would likely make an excellent lobbyist though, representing "the individual" to politicians.

The board member will be spending 99% of his/her time on non-controversial outreach, political efforts, etc. For this, I believe that Elizabeth is the best candidate due to her experience with politics and communication. In the unlikely event that she would have to decide on something important, her statements convince me that she is one of the most likely candidates to decide correctly. Some of her articles/speeches are low in substance (true of almost all politicians), but she has also made detailed and explicit statements about her platform:

Quote from: Elizabeth T. Ploshay
At points, standardizing Bitcoin may appear as an attractive option to some, but we must be leary of any centralized control of Bitcoin and the Bitcoin QT open source project.
Quote from: Elizabeth T. Ploshay
In the end of the day, an individual knows best, and government does not know best.
Quote from: Elizabeth T. Ploshay
Across the board, less regulation is better.
Quote from: Elizabeth T. Ploshay
Should I be elected to serve in this open seat, I would honor Martti Malmi’s current ownership of as a standalone organization.
Quote from: Elizabeth T. Ploshay
Ideally, I would like the Bitcoin Foundation to do a better job of pointing people to these key educational sources whether, news sites, success stories of Bitcoin related businesses,, and other forums where the purpose and goals of the Bitcoin community are exemplified.
Quote from: Elizabeth T. Ploshay
Satoshi stated, “What is needed is an electronic payment system based on cryptographic proof instead of trust, allowing any two willing parties to transact directly with each other without the need for a trusted third party.”  One of the ideological tenets I hold to is limited government and a general principle that government and centralized sources of control do NOT know what is best for the majority of individuals.  Individual responsibility and interaction in the financial sector leads to greater economic growth.
Quote from: Elizabeth T. Ploshay
I do commit to respect the 21 million limit and will not support any attempt to increase it. Anything with a limit other than 21 million isn't Bitcoin, it's an altcoin.
Quote from: Elizabeth T. Ploshay
... any attempts to diminish the fungibility or open source nature of Bitcoin  will be met by a firm "no thanks" from me, both as a individual member of the Bitcoin community, and as a member of the Bitcoin Foundation Board of Directors. Fortunately, the current decentralized, open source characteristics of Bitcoin safeguard against any such attempts, but that does not relieve us from opposing any efforts to the contrary.
Quote from: Elizabeth T. Ploshay
Barring unforeseen/distant circumstances such as quantum computing breakthroughs that render SHA256 an ineffective tool for performing its role in securing the network, it must remain.

This is really just a boring political job more than anything, without much potential for abuse or excellence. (If it was an important position, I would have nominated myself...) The way the Foundation is set up, a single board member is unable to do much. A single board member has essentially no chance of convincing the Foundation to, e.g., issue harmful Bitcoin network edicts. The worst thing that a single board member is likely to do is say something very damaging to Bitcoin's reputation ("Everyone should use Bitcoin for tax evasion and money laundering!"), especially since it's difficult for the board to remove a board member. It's unlikely that Elizabeth will make this mistake, and she'll be able to use the position to effectively lead lobbying efforts, reach out to non-Bitcoiners, etc.
1170  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Satoshi proposed a gentlemans agreement to postpone GPU mining (2009) on: August 31, 2013, 09:09:58 PM
Not true.
In these immemorial times mtgox was still unctional, at some point accepted paypal, and credit cards through liqpay.

This particular quote was from a month before the first automated exchange opened (Bitcoin Market). MtGox came several months later IIRC.
1171  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would the effect be if ISPs are asked to block Bitcoin protocol traffic? on: August 31, 2013, 09:03:18 PM
ISPs don't currently have any incentive to block Bitcoin. BitTorrent uses a lot of expensive bandwidth. ISPs block it to save money and reduce the number of expensive legal complaints that they receive, not because they're evil. Bitcoin is very low-bandwidth, and no one is going to send a complaint to your ISP just because you're running a Bitcoin node. If ISPs did block Bitcoin, they'd be pissing off their customers without getting anything in return for it.

If Bitcoin is blocked (which is very easy), the blocked users would just need to use Tor.
1172  Other / Meta / Re: [ALERT] Novacoin Giveaway PM - Phishing! on: August 31, 2013, 07:50:14 PM
They were banned, and I deleted most of these spam PMs.

If you get spam like this:
- If the PM was sent less than an hour ago, report it ASAP! PM reports are (by default) seen by global moderators and admins, who can all ban the person and their IPs.
- If the PM was sent more than ~6 hours ago, the person is probably already banned, so you don't need to report it. If they sent a lot of spam, I might delete all of the spam PMs at some point.
1173  Other / Meta / Re: BitCoinTalk Down on: August 31, 2013, 04:04:56 AM
1174  Other / Meta / Re: BitCoinTalk Down on: August 31, 2013, 03:49:34 AM
Looks like MySQL was refusing connections for some reason. MySQL sucks.
1175  Economy / Auctions / Advertise on this forum - Round 95 on: August 30, 2013, 03:09:02 PM
In order to collect more money for the creation of good forum software and for other useful purposes, the forum is selling ad space in the area beneath the first post of every topic page.

Ads are allowed to contain any non-annoying HTML/CSS style. No images, JavaScript, or animation (no marquee or blinking). Ads must appear 3 or fewer lines tall in my browser. Ads will be prefixed with "Advertisement:". Ad text may not contain lies, misrepresentation, or inappropriate language. Ads may not link directly to any NSFW page. Ads may be rejected for other reasons.

There are 10 total ad slots which are randomly rotated. So one ad slot has a one in ten chance of appearing. Seven of the slots are for sale here. Ads appear only on topic pages with more than one post, and only for people using the default theme.

The ad lasts at least 7 days starting from when I put it up. (However, if you look at the ad history you'll see that ads frequently get 1-2 extra days, but this is random and definitely not guaranteed.)


Exact historical impression counts per slot:

Info about the current ad slots:

Ad blocking

Hero members, Donators, VIPs, and moderators have the ability to disable ads. I don't expect many people to use this option. These people don't increase the impression counts for your ads.

I try to bypass Adblock Plus filters as much as possible, though this is not guaranteed. It is difficult or impossible for ABP filters to block the ad space itself without blocking posts. However, filters can match against the URLs in your links, your CSS classes and style attributes, and the HTML structure of your ads.

To prevent matches against URLs: I have some JavaScript which fixes links blocked by ABP. You must tell me if you want this for your ads. When someone with ABP and JavaScript enabled views your ads, your links are changed to a special randomized URL which redirects to your site when visited. People without ABP are unaffected, even if they don't have JavaScript enabled. The downsides are:
- ABP users will see the redirection link when they hover over the link, even if they disable ABP for the forum.
- Getting referral stats might become even more difficult.
- Some users might get a warning when redirecting from https to http.

To prevent matching on CSS classes/styles: Don't use inline CSS. I can give your ad a CSS class that is randomized on each pageload, but you must request this.

To prevent matching against your HTML structure: Use only one <a> and no other tags if possible. If your ads get blocked because of matching done on something inside of your ad, you are responsible for noticing this and giving me new ad HTML.

Auction rules

Post your bids in this thread. Prices must be stated in BTC per slot. You must state the max number of slots you want. When the auction ends, the highest bidders will have their slots filled until all seven slots are filled.

So if someone bids for 7 slots @ 5 BTC and this is the highest bid, then he'll get all 7 slots. If the two highest bids are 7 slots @ 4 BTC and 1 slot @ 5 BTC, then the first person will get 6 slots and the second person will get 1 slot.

The notation "2 @ 5" means 2 slots for 5 BTC each. Not 2 slots for 5 BTC total.

- When you post a bid, the bids in your previous posts are considered to be automatically canceled. You can put multiple bids in one post, however.
- All bid prices must be evenly divisible by 0.25.
- The bidding starts at 0.50.
- I will end the auction at an arbitrary time no more than 12 days from now. (I will probably end the auction 1-3 days before the ads are scheduled to go up.)
- If two people bid at the same price, the person who bid first will have his slots filled first.
- Bids are considered invalid and will be ignored if they do not specify both a price and a max quantity, or if they could not possibly win any slots

If these rules are confusing, look at some of the past forum ad auctions to see how it's done. I also post periodic status updates which should help make things clear.

You must pay for your slots within 24 hours of receiving the payment address. Otherwise your slots may be sold to someone else.
1176  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 94 on: August 30, 2013, 03:04:44 PM
Auction ended. Final result:
Slots BTC/Slot Person
1 6
4 6 kncminer
2 5.75 Inaba
1177  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: `getbalance accountname` returning incorrect amount? on: August 30, 2013, 03:31:33 AM
The wiki mentions "debits", so I understand the possibility for an account to go negative. But if new transactions to an address associated with an account act as the only credit mechanism, under what circumstances would an account show a balance more than the wallet total?

getbalance ac
move '' ac 20000
getbalance ac
sendtoaddress 1A... 20
getbalance ac
1178  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 94 on: August 27, 2013, 07:27:26 PM
3 @ 5.30

Bids must be evenly divisible by 0.25
1179  Other / Meta / Re: Advertisements on: August 25, 2013, 06:01:48 PM
More money is never bad. It may be useful someday. Having it sit around is good for the Bitcoin economy, actually: it represents the fact that the forum has provided a service but hasn't yet demanded much from the economy in return.

You can verify that the money is in fact sitting around and not being used arbitrarily. The cold storage addresses are public. A lot of the money isn't even held by me.

1 in 570 chance of a Factoid showing. You get 1 Factoid for free if you're a Donator/VIP. Still pretty terrible, the odds are tiny.

1 in 570 chance of a particular factoid showing. Some factoid is shown with a 1 in 10 chance.
1180  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] on: August 25, 2013, 02:18:20 AM
An unrelated micropayment company owned before Bitcoin was released. They never actually managed to develop a product, AFAIK.
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