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1161  Economy / Auctions / Advertise on this forum - Round 85 on: June 08, 2013, 02:09:41 PM
In order to collect more money for the creation of good forum software and for other useful purposes, the forum is selling ad space in the area beneath the first post of every topic page.

Ads are allowed to contain any non-annoying HTML/CSS style. No images, JavaScript, or animation (no marquee or blinking). Ads must appear 3 or fewer lines tall in my browser. Ads will be prefixed with "Advertisement:". Ad text may not contain lies, misrepresentation, or inappropriate language. Ads may not link directly to any NSFW page. Ads may be rejected for other reasons.

There are 10 total ad slots which are randomly rotated. So one ad slot has a one in ten chance of appearing. Seven of the slots are for sale here. Ads appear only on topic pages with more than one post, and only for people using the default theme.

The ad lasts at least 7 days starting from when I put it up. (However, if you look at the ad history you'll see that ads frequently get 1-2 extra days, but this is random and definitely not guaranteed.)


Exact historical impression counts per slot:

Info about the current ad slots:

Ad blocking

Hero members, Donators, VIPs, and moderators have the ability to disable ads. I don't expect many people to use this option. These people don't increase the impression counts for your ads.

I try to bypass Adblock Plus filters as much as possible, though this is not guaranteed. It is difficult or impossible for ABP filters to block the ad space itself without blocking posts. However, filters can match against the URLs in your links, your CSS classes and style attributes, and the HTML structure of your ads.

To prevent matches against URLs: I have some JavaScript which fixes links blocked by ABP. You must tell me if you want this for your ads. When someone with ABP and JavaScript enabled views your ads, your links are changed to a special randomized URL which redirects to your site when visited. People without ABP are unaffected, even if they don't have JavaScript enabled. The downsides are:
- ABP users will see the redirection link when they hover over the link, even if they disable ABP for the forum.
- Getting referral stats might become even more difficult.
- Some users might get a warning when redirecting from https to http.

To prevent matching on CSS classes/styles: Don't use inline CSS. I can give your ad a CSS class that is randomized on each pageload, but you must request this.

To prevent matching against your HTML structure: Use only one <a> and no other tags if possible. If your ads get blocked because of matching done on something inside of your ad, you are responsible for noticing this and giving me new ad HTML.

Auction rules

Post your bids in this thread. Prices must be stated in BTC per slot. You must state the max number of slots you want. When the auction ends, the highest bidders will have their slots filled until all seven slots are filled.

So if someone bids for 7 slots @ 5 BTC and this is the highest bid, then he'll get all 7 slots. If the two highest bids are 7 slots @ 4 BTC and 1 slot @ 5 BTC, then the first person will get 6 slots and the second person will get 1 slot.

The notation "2 @ 5" means 2 slots for 5 BTC each. Not 2 slots for 5 BTC total.

- When you post a bid, the bids in your previous posts are considered to be automatically canceled. You can put multiple bids in one post, however.
- All bid prices must be evenly divisible by 0.25.
- The bidding starts at 0.50.
- I will end the auction at an arbitrary time no more than 12 days from now. (I will probably end the auction 1-3 days before the ads are scheduled to go up.)
- If two people bid at the same price, the person who bid first will have his slots filled first.
- Bids are considered invalid and will be ignored if they do not specify both a price and a max quantity, or if they could not possibly win any slots

If these rules are confusing, look at some of the past forum ad auctions to see how it's done. I also post periodic status updates which should help make things clear.

You must pay for your slots within 24 hours of receiving the payment address. Otherwise your slots may be sold to someone else.
1162  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 84 on: June 08, 2013, 02:05:46 PM
Auction ended. Final result:
Slots BTC/Slot Person
1 7
2 6.75 friedcat
4 6.5 TradeFortress
1163  Other / Meta / Re: How does this Java exploit work? on: June 08, 2013, 04:36:34 AM
0-day for Java usually are used to bypass the sandbox or code signature restrictions. Anyway I consider it to be a lame exploit because many don't have Java installed or enabled. Compared to let's say Flash Player who's 0-day exploit is likely to run code on almost every visitor.

I've dealt with ~10 people who seem to have fallen victim to this exploit, and many more will have had their accounts compromised without my knowledge. Looks like Java is fairly widespread, even in the Bitcoin community. If this exploit can be used on bigger and more important sites, it seems like a pretty major Java weakness.
1164  Other / Meta / Re: How does this Java exploit work? on: June 07, 2013, 07:53:47 PM
That's not actually Zero Hedge. It's a phishing-type site.

Are you 100% sure it is from this page?

1165  Other / Meta / Re: My Bitcoin Forum account has been compromised!! on: June 07, 2013, 07:43:29 PM
WOW a lot of bitcointalk accounts are getting compromised. Theymos 2FA is need!

I think that this attack involves stealing cookies using some weakness in Java, so two-factor authentication wouldn't help here.
1166  Other / Meta / How does this Java exploit work? on: June 07, 2013, 07:42:02 PM
The Java applet on this page is somehow being used to take control of forum accounts. Exactly how does this work? Is it a 0-day Java exploit, or some inherent security weakness in Java? Is there anything that can be done on my end to stop it?

(Proceed with caution)
1167  Other / Meta / Re: [Feature added] Color besides usernames for Ignored by % of established members. on: June 07, 2013, 04:27:46 PM
The number of established users increased, moving the range up.
1168  Other / Meta / Re: Marketplace trust on: June 06, 2013, 09:56:17 PM
By the way are we trusted feedback on ourselves by default since I see two lists trusted feedback and untrusted feeback
See John K and Badbear as trusted and myself but don't remember making a trust list

Yes. You trust yourself regardless of whether you're actually in your trust network.
1169  Other / Meta / Re: New addition to the forum on: June 06, 2013, 01:50:59 AM
They actually really irritate me because I've gotten so used to the old way, but I guess I'll get used to this eventually. It's a good addition, especially on PM pages.
1170  Other / Meta / Re: Deleting threads - Log the Title, URL, date deleted, deleted by, and reason on: June 06, 2013, 01:49:29 AM
Fixed. That's a SMF bug -- deletions there weren't being logged at all.
1171  Other / Meta / Re: New addition to the forum on: June 06, 2013, 01:19:43 AM
They're new. I noticed that there's an option in the settings to collapse page numbers, and enabling this also added brackets for some reason.
1172  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 84 on: June 05, 2013, 04:28:47 PM
I'll consider wm-center's bids to be cancelled until he confirms.

Current status:
Slots BTC/Slot Person
1 7
3 6 BLFC Jordan
3 6 TradeFortress
1173  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammed by Kr4X | Administrator of Gold Coin Talk on: June 05, 2013, 12:59:31 AM
Verified. Thanks!

Did you check that E6fwC7ztpW5VusXJg3mXfwF8oixqMqtM2G didn't actually receive anything?
1174  Other / Meta / Re: Marketplace trust on: June 03, 2013, 02:18:32 AM
That's the way it does work. Theymos trusts Vezunchik through a middleman, but Veunchik is abusing the system. This is a problem, especially when it's theymos, because he has the default trust list. It's up to him to fix it, and it highlights the problem with the default trust not being empty.

This rating isn't visible by default. Things are a little different from how they originally were: By default, you trust "DefaultTrust", not me directly. So it's not a problem for the default trust network when someone in my trust list has a bad trust list unless they're also trusted by DefaultTrust (which DeaDTerra is not).

Wait you want theymos to change how he trust people, that is a little messed up. That isn't how it should work.

No, that's reasonable. This system isn't perfect: it's more of a "choose your own moderator" system than a true web of trust. Anyone in your trust list should be someone who carefully maintains their trust network and watches for bad ratings. (I will create tools to make it easier to watch for good/bad ratings in and out of your trust network.) It's OK to alert these people when there's something wrong IMO.

Problems like this one with Garr255 will become less of an issue as time goes on, though. It'll be very difficult for someone to get a negative trust score unless they're fairly new. I don't believe that any trust scoring system can accurately rate people when they've been around for a long time and gained a lot of trust. Either negative trust scores will become so prevalent as to be meaningless, or everyone who's been around for a long time will be able to easily scam for at least several weeks before getting negative trust scores. To solve this, I think I'll create a separate arbitration system using scammer tags; with this, even if you have a trust score of one million, you'll get a scammer tag if you lose in arbitration.

Theymos.... do you ever consider admitting to yourself that someone in a position of authority (such as yourself) is more appropriate to judge the trustworthiness of other individuals involved in the transaction precisely because you don't give half a shit about them? It's easy to "care about justice" as a juror... but it's much more difficult when you have a gun to the head of your wife's murderer. When it's a puzzle, it's easy and objective. The worst thing you could do would be to allow those involved in transactions to rate others -- to give them the gun.

The trust system is meant to defend against scammers and alts of scammers who don't have significant previous trade history. (Currently, Garr255 doesn't have much trade history according to the trust system.) It's a scammer early warning system and a database of trade info that people can use as part of a trust judgement. Justice needs to be done with something else.
1175  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Selling BTC for USD - no fee - cash in the mail (US) on: June 03, 2013, 12:31:17 AM
Still selling.
1176  Other / Off-topic / Re: How long has your OS been installed? on: June 01, 2013, 04:18:24 AM
1177  Other / Meta / Re: Marketplace trust on: May 31, 2013, 04:27:57 PM
So people can overvalue their transactions by bartering a lot of high value paperclips(you can get houses for those still right?

Sure, or they could just lie. But their contribution to the trust score is limited, and they might be removed from trust lists for attempting such manipulation.
1178  Other / Meta / Re: Adblock Plus censoring posts on: May 31, 2013, 04:15:39 PM
I'm on Chrome, and the bug is still present using AdBlock Plus (which is now turned off).

What bug? Blocked links? Which links are blocked?
1179  Other / Off-topic / Re: What type of coding is used in sites like Satoshi Dice? on: May 31, 2013, 03:57:57 PM
It's common to use a database abstraction layer, which allows you to do database stuff without writing SQL. (Though I prefer to deal with the database directly.)
1180  Other / Meta / Re: Marketplace trust on: May 31, 2013, 03:54:45 PM
why not make the field alphanumeric then at allow it to be risked value, let people denominate it in whatever they want.

Because the numeric value is used in the trust score calculation, so there needs to be a consistent measure of value.
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