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141  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The best buy right now is not Bitcoin, it is ALTCOINS on: January 08, 2016, 03:09:45 PM
You spelled 'sell' wrong.
142  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will never reach $2000 again on: January 07, 2016, 05:16:19 PM
Yea, good question. I think it is possible in the early 2020s when inflation really drops.
143  Economy / Speculation / Bitcoin will never reach $2000 again on: January 07, 2016, 05:07:49 PM
Whoops, too early.  Grin
144  Economy / Speculation / Re: Halving already 100% priced in! Would you buy or sell now? on: January 04, 2016, 04:09:26 PM
Maybe its priced in for the smart money who already knows about the halving but not for the speculators who hear about it late and jump in when price is already moving up? It then creates a snowball rolling getting bigger where more people jump on at the end just because they see huge gains, this is the bubble forming.
Now you've ruined it by letting everyone know! Wink
145  Other / Off-topic / Re: What are you doing New Year's Eve play bitcoin? or give bitcoin ... or a family on: January 04, 2016, 05:04:53 AM
I'm pretty sure the term "New Year's Eve" is offensive.

In America they say "holiday".
How offensive! You must mean in the United States. South Americans are Americans too.
146  Economy / Speculation / Re: Halving already 100% priced in! Would you buy or sell now? on: January 04, 2016, 05:03:26 AM
Interesting fact: If the current price of bitcoin doubles for the halving then "market cap" will be equal to what it was at the last ATH.
147  Economy / Speculation / Re: Another way of looking at the halving, market cap and coin inflation rates on: January 03, 2016, 04:37:10 PM
The april high of 2013 ($266 / 2.6b) almost equals the 2.4b of our recent low in january 2015 ($152).
Very interesting point! And to get back to the ATH in "market cap" would now only require a price of $925, which is 20% less than the ATH price per bitcoin. (I am using blockchain.info numbers here for simplicity.) This number will drop to $882 by the time of the halving, which is coincidentally 2x the current price. Hmm.
148  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 02, 2016, 01:14:07 PM
Satoshi's original vision of sound money & free guns
I remember hearing he was for free drugs -- guns too?
149  Economy / Speculation / Re: Another way of looking at the halving, market cap and coin inflation rates on: January 02, 2016, 02:35:58 AM
Glad you guys find this interesting.

I added the MSFT bit there as a sort of sanity test because I have no reference as to what 879b looks like. Of course that was bubble time for Microsoft. As we know bitcoin "market cap" is not really market cap.

Thoughts on additional analysis which could be done with this perspective? I think everyone is naturally concerned about their own hoard so we look at the price of each coin alone. The above approach is an attempt at a more circuitous route which takes into account the overall value of the network during this highly inflationary time. The network is worth $.75m more now than last time bitcoin was at this price yet everyone feels as though we finally are back to late 2014 -- in a sense this is correct but I think it is misleading. The understanding people have on what it means for a coin to be priced at $X will naturally influence the market but I would wager that those beliefs cause effects of a higher order than these more fundamental network constraints.
150  Economy / Speculation / Re: Another way of looking at the halving, market cap and coin inflation rates on: January 01, 2016, 01:21:16 AM
Cool! Looking forward to your comments.  Smiley
151  Economy / Speculation / Another way of looking at the halving, market cap and coin inflation rates on: December 31, 2015, 10:30:21 PM
tl;dr If market cap growth is to increase we are going to see a nice jump due to halving. On top of that the rate of this growth can also increase as it did after the last halving. Even with $41,000 coins it would take 32 years to reach MSFT's market cap on 30 Dec 1999.

12/31/2015 price $430
9/18/14 price $430

day diff is 469
block diff is 67,536
coin diff is 1,688,400

12/31/2015 coins 15,028,500
9/18/14 coins 13,340,100

market cap now $6,462,255,000
market cap then $5,736,243,000
increase is $726,012,000
increase is 12.66%

430*1.1266=484.438

$1,548,000 per day gained at $420*3600

2753 2553 days since genesis until now
growth at above rate would imply $4,261,644,000 $3,952,044,000
but actually grew $2,500,000 per day over lifetime of btc until now
*had 50btc/10m for ~1/2time

2084 days until 9/18/14 from genesis
grew by $2,752,000 a day

at current $1,548,000 then we have $309,600,000 before halving
2nd halving implied price $6,771,855,000
that is if 15,750,000 coins = $430

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28 nov 2012 halving was 1425 days since genesis
10,500,000 coins
~$115,000,000
grew $81,000 per day until 1st halving

$6,656,855,000 between first halving and implied second halving
1328 days
$5,012,692 per day

62x daily growth from 1st to 2nd

But current coins per day are worth $1,548,000 per day, .3x the average growth rate between halving 1 and 2
Or .62x the overall growth rate throughout the life of the system

and 81,000/7200=$11.25 for first phase

?= 430/.3 - 430/.62 = $693-$1433
? After 2nd halving then per day issued is $1,247,400 per day - $2,579,400

If 3rd era is 15x from 2nd era (.25 previous jump) then $41,000 coins to get to ~75m daily increase from 1800 coins

75m daily increase would be 27.375b per year

MSFT cap was 879b on 30 Dec 1999. At above rate of growth it would still take 31.9 years (2048) for us to reach that total. (n.b. not accounting future halvings)

Edit: Corrected two errors, needs rechecking
152  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Dec 18 to Jan 1 diff thread setup picks are now Closed!!! on: December 31, 2015, 11:09:35 AM
congrats 64dimensions (I guess  Wink)

Wink Yea, congrats 64dimensions!
153  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Dec 18 to Jan 1 diff thread setup picks are now OPEN!!! on: December 23, 2015, 08:20:46 PM
+12.3 = keystroke

Thanks =)
154  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Setting up new diff thread Dec 6 to Dec 20 picks closed. on: December 18, 2015, 07:44:20 PM
Right now 18.14% is a rollover number.

That would bring us to 0.416 btc prize.


Wow... this is getting intense. Smiley
155  Economy / Speculation / Re: Not long and I will be at my break-even price of $1124.76 on: December 15, 2015, 04:55:17 PM
Guys I was just joking! Cheesy $1124.76 was the ATH on Stamp. Whoever bought then hasn't admitted it yet. Wink

No, it wasn't. It was 1163$ in Bitstamp and it was almost exactly 1 year before.
Check out the graphics here and make time interval 1w, you'll see: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitstamp/btcusd
1124$ was good price to buy, it's not even ATH. Cheesy
haha, yes you are right of course! I just took those numbers from the bitcoin wiki page. Smiley

This is supposed to be a sort of satirical post but everyone is taking it seriously. I love how everyone is so supportive. But most do not read the thread, haha.
156  Economy / Speculation / Re: Not long and I will be at my break-even price of $1124.76 on: December 15, 2015, 02:25:01 PM
Dang, that really sucks that you bought that high.  But I do hope you're right.  Some day, people will say to you, "I wish I bought that low"! Wink
If only I had held... I sold everything in a panic in August at $162. Wink I guess it could have been worse!
157  Economy / Speculation / Re: Poll: Bitcoin's price after the halving on: December 15, 2015, 02:22:18 PM
A dollar will cost at most 0.001 bitcoins. Smiley
158  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 15, 2015, 02:17:35 PM
We have another ~20% difficulty jump inbound in t-minus 3 days and counting.
159  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Setting up new diff thread Dec 6 to Dec 20 picks closed. on: December 15, 2015, 02:14:25 PM
95,163,423,723 (+20.30%)
160  Economy / Speculation / Re: Not long and I will be at my break-even price of $1124.76 on: December 15, 2015, 08:02:08 AM
Guys I was just joking! Cheesy $1124.76 was the ATH on Stamp. Whoever bought then hasn't admitted it yet. Wink
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