what a mess, you could avoid this only by paying your dues and dont trying to get free loans from people like you do
He says he has offered to pay you "your dues". It looks like you're just making excuses for grabbing a better deal in a shonky fashion. Its convenient to him to make this appear like this, I never considered that avalon mine before 27 march. He's a couple days late on a loan and now you're refusing to accept any payment? more than one month late. How can be possible if our new agreement ended up few hours ago? just look at the date from batch 2 wave two. initial loan repay was 3 days after that, the second date is public, and you missed it too Dãhhh... You made a new deal, a new agreement. As we all can see here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149851.0Why you keep bringing the `dead deals' to try to help you out? I made that without notice to you, just to see if you show up with some coins, turns out that I could also catch one of your lies |
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bitcoin p2p currency.
lembrem-se!
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assino em baixo e gostaria de adicionar uma recomendacao:
cuidado principalmente com pessoas que voce julga serem confiáveis, é aí onde mora o perigo, são os chamados Con Man, confidence man, eles te ganham no papo , são carismáticos e aparentemente jogam no teu time, vao até te chamar de amigo se precisar, mas não vão olhar pra trás depois de te dar uma rasteira.
trust no one.
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I have no idea what is going on between you guys but this is a prime example of the benefit of not allowing customers to change their shipping address after an order.
I second that and I say I profoundly regret my offer that started all of this. Trust no one. |
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160527.0First Who locked that thread?Second, I need that document anyone copied? This is VERY important to me.
Thiago, you are a liar and you asking him to remove information on ticket number 505, cause thats where I caught you. You are trying to make myself a fool over the eyes of brazilian users. Its already quoted there and that document proves it, along with the private message you sent Yifu. Third, where are my coins? Fourth, if you have them ready, where did you get them from?
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And all this started when I had this amazing evil idea offering him hosting with better electricity, management and no shipping delays.
No coins yet.
15tKRB4Le3LZ7Qje9PUFAMGyMKSH8Fmc7U
This was supposed to be friendship stuff and I got burned. I want my 60 and give up any extra coins.
Thanks everyone.
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I just caught up to these tickets. this is not Avalons problem nor we will aid in resolving it.
In this case, We are simply not going to honor the change of address, because this is a reselling/hosting/loan deal and this happens outside of Avalon control and must deal with the person who ORDERED these units.
as in, this unit will go to the original address Thaigo put on this order, which is neither rodigorc2's address, or the current "new" address he is changing to. Avalon does not "aid" the reselling of these orders, especially for reasons like this.
said ticket is referenced here: -redacted for privacy details-
BOTTOMLINE: if you want to resell. buy it first, have it delivered and ship it elsewhere yourselves.
thanks now everyone knows my address  its good ending, indeed. I like how Thiago managed to change the address back without paying me the coins. But I should not worry about that. His plan is almost done, like he said, now that he has one machine he will mine them and pay me 60 plus my account on insolvent bitcoinrain.com of 60. Oh man, you really like to extort people's money, don't you? On day 28 Thiago asked me if I could buy him 2 more avalons wait: that was day 26. |
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I just caught up to these tickets. this is not Avalons problem nor we will aid in resolving it.
In this case, We are simply not going to honor the change of address, because this is a reselling/hosting/loan deal and this happens outside of Avalon control and must deal with the person who ORDERED these units.
as in, this unit will go to the original address Thaigo put on this order, which is neither rodigorc2's address, or the current "new" address he is changing to. Avalon does not "aid" the reselling of these orders, especially for reasons like this.
said ticket is referenced here: -redacted for privacy details-
BOTTOMLINE: if you want to resell. buy it first, have it delivered and ship it elsewhere yourselves.
thanks now everyone knows my address its good ending, indeed. I like how Thiago managed to change the address back on day 28 without paying me the coins. But I should not worry about that. His plan is almost done, like he said, now that he has one machine he will mine them and pay me 60 plus my account on insolvent bitcoinrain.com of 60. |
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pois é, um pouco mais de atencao neste topico e a comunidade poderia ter discutido e sugerido uma estrategia melhor para o serviço.
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Holy shit, rudrigorc2 should be slapped with a scammer tag right now. I'm surprised logic fails to overcome his greed.
Go read whats going on within the brazilian community. then come back and edit your post. huehuehuehue I don't care what is happening in Brazil. Countries do not matter in this dispute. Take your BTC and stop trying to scam your way into a money printing machine. I already own one and a half avalon. bought with my mined coins. Thanks. That one I was going to slice in shares to folks in brazil that dont have the chance to mine. thiago are you there? |
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ThiagoCMC had better recieve the property that he paied for...
thats the problem dude, he only paid one, I paid other. once again, he will get what he paid for, from me(after mine to cover shipment costs) or direct from manufacturer and I shall get the other one. or he can stand up and come here to make what hes talked here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160527.msg1699815#msg1699815From what i've read (and im not taking sides just yet) You Funded Thiago's purchase of the second Avalon via a Loan. Then when Thiago attempted to repay you, You refused repayment because he was (according to you) Drastically late. Then you feel the right to ask for DOUBLE the bitcoins in repayment, That alone is fucked up since coin value has been increasing rapidly. Since thats Not Gonna Happen, He then offers to buy your Bitcoin Rain account, But then you state: "After you confirm here I will put my address to get the first 60 btc and after the I get those coins I will put another address in this same topic." Implying that he is going to pay you more than 60btc (wich is all fine and dandy if the rain account has some value/balace to it) wich is beyond the agreed upon Debt of 60btc! You DID NOT PAY for an Avalon FOR YOURSELF, You FUNDED A LOAN FOR ThiagoCMC TO PURCHASE AN AVALON FOR HIMSELF. You have No Rights to the Avalon unless there is an outstanding debt that is greater than 50% of the avalons value that YOU ARE UNABLE TO COLLECT So far you are refusing to accept a bitcoin payment from ThiagoCMC who is constantly trying to settle this debt by sending you the amount owed! apparently thats the game Thiago is trying to play with everyone he gets loans from, pay late, delay as much as he can, then pay somehow. Curious enough this thread tells me Im not the one he owes at the moment. thiago, day 28 you dont have the coins, now you have, how can u manage to get them so fast? edit: still waiting you come here Ill post my address to get 60, after that I will post another to wait the other 60. |
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I know my reputation is doomed for the moment, but I havent gone crazy yet. All you guys who have already paid Icarus, dont worry they are safe and sound(helluva noisy toy) ready to answer trade-in call. I appreciate the support of everyone I have done smooth transactions with. Mutual respect is all it takes.  Yeah, the winter is over. |
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Btw, Thiago, one thing remains untold, you did not have the coins to pay me back day 27, where did you get your coins from to pay me now?
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ThiagoCMC had better recieve the property that he paied for...
thats the problem dude, he only paid one, I paid other. once again, he will get what he paid for, from me(after mine to cover shipment costs) or direct from manufacturer and I shall get the other one. or he can stand up and come here to make what hes talked here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160527.msg1699815#msg1699815 |
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The first avalon was paid from thiago. He has a contract with avalon. The second was bought from thiago and paid by rudrigor. If he pays for another person that person still has the contract with avalon. And he paid for thiago because he had a contract with him about a loan. Even when the loan isnt paid back after the timeframe he cant force avalon to give him the avalon because he has no contract with them. He only has the right to demand the money back. And only the money that was agreed with the loan contract. Eventually some more as a reminder fee.
So there is no connection between rudrigor to avalon. He cant demand anything from avalon and avalon would breach the contract if they deliver to rudrigor.
That would be the rule in real world. Of course only if i dont miss some info.
This was sent as MP I think theymos can recover it anytime: So that was for the cheaper power there isnt it? But the machines are still his? If so he can send it where he wants. Or did you have a contract so that the machines are yours too or that you earn from their earnings too? yes cheaper power. I was going to host and give remote access and charge for the service, obviously, but signs of abuse made me create this thread my post still stands: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160527.msg1699815#msg1699815 |
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The first avalon was paid from thiago. He has a contract with avalon. The second was bought from thiago and paid by rudrigor. If he pays for another person that person still has the contract with avalon. And he paid for thiago because he had a contract with him about a loan. Even when the loan isnt paid back after the timeframe he cant force avalon to give him the avalon because he has no contract with them. He only has the right to demand the money back. And only the money that was agreed with the loan contract. Eventually some more as a reminder fee.
So there is no connection between rudrigor to avalon. He cant demand anything from avalon and avalon would breach the contract if they deliver to rudrigor.
That would be the rule in real world. Of course only if i dont miss some info.
This was sent as MP I think theymos can recover it anytime: |
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Holy shit, rudrigorc2 should be slapped with a scammer tag right now. I'm surprised logic fails to overcome his greed.
Go read whats going on within the brazilian community. then come back and edit your post. |
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