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1641  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: December 08, 2016, 06:41:30 AM
Based on the experience of the users of the bitcoin, this seems like a very profitable thing, a very easy way to benefit is buying bitcoin and hold for long term. I'll give it a try, I bought 3 bitcoin then sell again after 1 year or 200% profit.
Well, it does look very easy, but, although it was profitable, it is not easy to hold bitcoin in a long time, especially when the bitcoin prices began to decline. Well, it requires trust and patience are great, because without it, perhaps it will only be in vain. but, you should try it, because it is the safest, and easiest way to make money you have into more  Grin
yeaaa true , the biggest challenge for a long term holders is when the price keep dropping.
i have an experience when trying to hold my bitcoin as long aspossible.
but the reality bitcoin price get dumped and i lost almost 50% already , i cannot handle it anymore , i just give up on it.
1642  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin transactions - Slow OR Fast on: December 08, 2016, 06:28:15 AM
bitcoin transactions very quickly, because we could do it anywhere at any time, just press the button on your laptop / mobile, if there is internet, we can directly do the transactions. Because that, bitcoin transactions is very fast
Yes that is a fact that the transaction of bitcoin is very fast and can be done on a single click, but the problem is that of transaction confirmation, as the transaction confirmation may take a lot of times and really make trouble when you are in market and waiting just for the transaction confirmations.
But if the shops will estimate for the favorable fees of transaction and they will have believe that in that much fees the transaction will not be cancelled or not be returned they they will easily rely on only the click on the transaction and will not bother their clients to wait for longer in the market.
this is a tough problem , as bitcoin itself vulnerable .
i mean people can make a double spend.if a merchant accept 0 confirmation to speed up the deal.
the bitcoin transaction actually can be done as fast ast lightning but the confirmation required is so slow as hell recently.
1643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: December 08, 2016, 06:19:30 AM
Many people said the gambling is just a game and another people said it is Investment. How do you think?  Roll Eyes

Gambling is an investment which you know what odds you're getting. However, in an investment you are not playing against anyone. With gambling you are playing against the house, and the house will always have an advantage over you.

I wouldn't recommend gambling for profit, it is supposed to be fun and entertaining.

No, gambling is not an investment because if you lose that game, then all your money is gone. It is just playing a game for fun with small amounts. Investments are made to grow over the time as businesses grow. Gambling can't be called it as an investment, at least for me.
even the real investment will still have a drop when you expect to grow , it is normal thing.
for some people maybe they consider gambling as an investment.
as they think there is a chance to grow their money through gambling , pretty similar for me.
1644  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe that win in gambling is depending on your luck ? on: December 08, 2016, 05:54:25 AM
I would say it does. Here it does not even matter if your playing poker and sports betting, or on casino.
All of them depend on luck. Of course some more than others, but if you focus on sports betting, you can easily see that is depends on your luck as well, because sports itself depends a little on luck. Let's imagine a game of football between two balanced teams. You normally have 1 or 2 goals total, so those balls that hit the bar etc, or those mistakes from the referee, are luck factors that will definitely have a role on the outcome of the game. So if it affects the game, it will also affect your bet.
i agree that luck is really there involved in gambling.
but i don't think the whole gambling proccess and result is depends on luck.
for once , twice or three times okay it is luck have an influence to the outcme , but mostly an experience and skills have more key role in gambling besides luck.
1645  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Dark marketplaces? on: December 08, 2016, 05:43:42 AM
Lots of the markets on there are scams. I have lost around $500-$600 being scammed of BTC on my old wallet. But, if you want to make lots of sales the Deep Web is the place to go. Good Luck!

Yes there are a lot of scammers on there and you should also never buy something from it randomly because in the most cases you will than lose money.

It's true that there are a lot of scammers throughout the dark marketplaces and that is why we call it dark market for those people who are keep on hiding in the dark and doesn't want to expose their shady behavior and activities are there. So don't ever try to have some transactions there or else you will feel sorry about it.
a bad place will never be a good income for you , avoid to deal on there.
dark marketplace is a place for illegal marketers or for a tech savvy only.
the good thing there is only about bitcoin used as the primary payment processor , the rest is just full of bad things.
1646  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: December 08, 2016, 05:24:39 AM
Fun is fun. Becoming rich doesn't change this thing, you'll still want to be entertained. Being rich also doesn't mean it is necessary to gamble more than you would have gambled if you were poor - you can go with the same small amount. The riches are gambling too.
Yeah that is right if a person like a way of fun then he go for it in any situation no matter how much he become rich and how much he become busy he will bring some time for to gamble as it is a source of pleasure which is the need of every human being in the boring work of the life.
But gamble never be fun if you keep hitting unlucky losing streaks.
So you must stop immediately once you think you have lost too much and feel nothing .
A rich man who gamble have bigger risk to become frustated so i will suggest to keep incontrol.
That's when you are tested whether you are a discipline man or not, if you get frustrated then definitely you are not gambling for fun, you have already accepted because you start that you are gonna lose anyway because that is gambling and no certain way to win all the time. As a rich person with discipline you should not be affected as you have a lot of money and what you spend is only what you can afford to lose.
okay let's say you are gambling for fun , nothing more.
but can you imagine if then you keep gambling continuously and the result always lost you did not even get a single winning.
what would you do if something like that happened to you? it is not fun anymore when you have to lost like that , noone will feel happy.
1647  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: what happen with bitcoin after not mineable? on: December 08, 2016, 05:11:25 AM
If bitcoin is not mineable, I think Bitcoin will be worthless and people will not use Bitcoin anymore. This the main different between Bitcoin and FIAT. And, people definitely choose FIAT instead of Bitcoin if they can not mine Bitcoin anymore. Bitcoin price will drop to less than $1

That's not really true. It just means transaction fees need to be a lot higher or there needs to be a hell of a lot more people using Bitcoin daily.
really smells like speculation everywhere.
just take a look to stellar or ripple , both is not mineable since first time invented.
but until now a lot of people still interested and using it , so don't worry about bitcoin too , noone know what will happens actually.
1648  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: December 08, 2016, 05:03:33 AM

The 1st pick for this week will be from the game between   CF Malaga vs Granada CF
This event can be quickly accessed here: https://sportsbet.io/sports/pre-live/soccer-spain-primera-division/cf-malaga-v-granada-cf/event/9769453?ref=tipster6
Match:  CF Malaga vs Granada CF
Pick: BTTS  -  yes
Odds: @ 1.9
Stake: 15.00 mBTC
Potential Win :28mBTC

Malaga last games: 4-2 3-2 0-0 2-2 4-3  I see here Granada fighting for their lives and scoring a goal. Malaga will score at least 2.



i think the same as you , malaga always conceded no matter they play at home or away.
and granada is a team that could not lost easily without a hard fight.
both teams to score looks like a perfect pick in this match since hard to choose for moneyline.
1649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: management of risk and money on gambling on: December 08, 2016, 04:25:47 AM
You mean to say you will not use your money to gamble and you know how to earn money from gambling using free money given by sites? If that is what you want to say then I can say that is almost impossible to reach the minimum payout money with those free satoshi's. It is actually wasting our time. I don't worry about the end result but only load small amount play and forget it for next few days or weeks.
It's not completely waste your time , it was happened with me a while ago I could withdraw my money from faucet amount maybe I was lucky on that day. Beside that you can get free money from (Rain chat , faucet , or promotion) so you can get decent amount from it.
it was not wasting time but really bad idea to rely on something like free money to start gamble.
you guys prefer to find something else that can provide you a better entertainment .
managing gamble to keep always in profit is as hard as controlling your emotion.
1650  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: December 07, 2016, 06:49:48 AM
So what do you guys think will happen to Aguero and Fernandinho?  Will it be a four match ban for each or will the punishment be more than that?  If it's more then I guess City will be in the market to buy another striker and a holding midfielder then.

And in two weeks they're going to have a match vs an in form Arsenal.  I don't think City will be able to win that one.

 
the sure thing is fernandinho and aguero will miss arsenal clash.
it must be 4 games ban but not yet decided so far , and i think fabregas must be given red card too he caught slap fernandinho.
a world class provocation made by fabregas , he always do that since in barcelona even arsenal.

Fabregas may make a provocation, but the reaction from Fernandinho is too much. Sure he will get a hard punishment. Aguero also should get a hard punishment, he just want to destroy David Luiz's Leg, he even not make a ball as a tackle target, the target is David Luiz.
difficult situation from Pep as a manchester city manager. Now he get a right league for him.
That was what fabregas want , touch fernandinho a little then tell the referee to see on them.
The result as you can see fernandinho provocated and referee only see when fernandinho reacted and push fabregas so hard .
Simply experience working here lol , manchester city facing a serious problem here now to missed several key players on important match.
1651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: December 07, 2016, 06:32:52 AM
I think the biggest reason to ban online gambling but to allow gambling in a casino has to do with taxes, casinos pay lots of taxes, regular taxes and special taxes that only applies to casinos and with online gambling casinos can avoid those taxes by establishing themselves in jurisdictions with low or zero taxes.
There are already several of European countries who already did that.
Anyway, now days it is pretty easy to bet with bitcoins without confirming your identity or using a VPN, so we can pass this ban easily.
No one can stop us from doing something over the internet.
While that cannot stop us, such regulations and bans are effective against most of the population because not many of them know how to get around those bans by using bitcoin for example
yeaaa it works for a common people to prevent gamble by blocking the gambling sites through isp.
Online gambling is much more easy and free to use by all ages rather than real gambling.
But mostly want and choose to gamble in real casino because of the priceless thrill.
1652  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: December 07, 2016, 06:20:21 AM
A big NO, online or offline be it. Why? Because they are designed against you. For example a slot machine is designated to payout 85-97% payout ratio out of 100% money they get in. This will result in a loss for the players in the long run so not worth it.

Sure the jackpots of the slots may look appealing but they are won extremely rarely so not worth your money and time to try.
Why not just play for fun, i really enjoy playing slots. i don't bet big, just small bets and sometimes when i get lucky while having fun i multiple my money by x20 or x50. Smiley
And then you will keep trying continuously as you have lured by a previous nice winning amount.
This is just another way to get addicted and probably leading into a bankruptcy in the end.
The more winning amount you get in gambling the more your intentions to gamble will be no matter you are gamble for fun at first time.
1653  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: December 07, 2016, 06:09:53 AM
Fun is fun. Becoming rich doesn't change this thing, you'll still want to be entertained. Being rich also doesn't mean it is necessary to gamble more than you would have gambled if you were poor - you can go with the same small amount. The riches are gambling too.
Yeah that is right if a person like a way of fun then he go for it in any situation no matter how much he become rich and how much he become busy he will bring some time for to gamble as it is a source of pleasure which is the need of every human being in the boring work of the life.
But gamble never be fun if you keep hitting unlucky losing streaks.
So you must stop immediately once you think you have lost too much and feel nothing .
A rich man who gamble have bigger risk to become frustated so i will suggest to keep incontrol.
1654  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When is Gambling Like Investing on: December 07, 2016, 03:45:37 AM
Gamble will be like investing if you invest your money even if you know it is a big risk. You risk your money expecting to have a return from gambling. You invest in gambling more than your other responsibilities or for yourself. You put too much money in it treating it like a way to gain profit.
Especially if you gamble using bitcoin ,you will experience something extraordinary and a lot of benefit.
For example if you gamble with 1 bitcoin worth $250 and managed to gain up to 2 bitcoin.
And then you withdraw it all when the price of bitcoin gained too lets say 1 bitcoin worth $500 now it is mean you have done more than investment, you gain profit here and there.
But to double your bankroll in a casino game is very difficult in fact is a lot more likely that the price of bitcoin will double than to double your bankroll, it will be better to just keep your bitcoins and wait for a price increase.
I just assume you win the game and doubled your money in two sides .
Bitcoin price gain doubled and your winning in the game doubled just an assumption okay.
Because we are talking about gambling here , not as bitcoin holder only so no better option rather than to gamble it carefully and get your money doubled.
1655  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: December 07, 2016, 03:37:46 AM
No matter if there is no players rivalry involved in elclassico the rivalry have set so strong.

Messi and ronaldo are made for each other and their rivalry will continue even when they retired. People will still compare them and imagine when they decided to be a coach. They will probably meet as a coach in the future and there is no telling when will their rivalry end however both are great player
I just cannot imagine if then both messi and ronaldo become a manager for barcelona and real madrid.
The rivalry will sure continue , also if messi's son and ronaldo's son play for real madrid and barcelona in the future it is could be the longest rivalry.
Elclassico really attract people around the world with its history not just about messi and cristiano ronaldo.
1656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Soccer Transfer Market 2016/2017 ! on: December 07, 2016, 03:08:07 AM
Manchester United seems to buy Belotti from Torino for an undisclosed amount monster 100M!
I think it is exaggerated. Manchester United had a strong young striker as Rashford and does not make much sense to spend so much money for Belotti.


even if they buy him that won't change anything I expect more from them but manchester united plays very bad this won't change if they buy belotti from torino
too naive if then manchester united want to buy the release clause of andrea belotti for 100 million.
he just sign a new contract with torino for 5 years deal and manchester united really not need him urgently.
i will just shocked if this transfer done by united , wasting too much money.
1657  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: December 07, 2016, 02:54:49 AM
An exciting game tonight Benfica will face Napoli for qualifying to the next round , both teams have 8 pts in the first place in classement and Besiktas have 7 pts in the third place , it will be a game on fire ! i'm exciting to watch this game .

Napoli won the game and they qualified for the next round, It is almost obvious that they will win the game when the others has qualified for the next round and they havent. Benfica was a tough matchup for them and I didnt really expect them to win the game with only 1 goal difference in the game

Yeah congrats for Napoli, they qualified to the champions league playoff and i think Benfica also qualify because Besiktas lose by Dynamo Kiev 6-0, it's really an unexpected result though. Paris SG and Man City match got draw, luckly i don't have any bet for this match.
A tough group , all teams beat each other and have a close point.
but in the end besiktas who several times shocking napoli did not qualified because of very unlucky lost 6-0.
Benfica really have a good luck here, lost but qualified for next round.
1658  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When is Gambling Like Investing on: December 06, 2016, 12:10:42 PM
Gamble will be like investing if you invest your money even if you know it is a big risk. You risk your money expecting to have a return from gambling. You invest in gambling more than your other responsibilities or for yourself. You put too much money in it treating it like a way to gain profit.
Especially if you gamble using bitcoin ,you will experience something extraordinary and a lot of benefit.
For example if you gamble with 1 bitcoin worth $250 and managed to gain up to 2 bitcoin.
And then you withdraw it all when the price of bitcoin gained too lets say 1 bitcoin worth $500 now it is mean you have done more than investment, you gain profit here and there.
1659  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: December 06, 2016, 11:50:40 AM
La Liga can not be separated from the name of Messi and Ronaldo, they have become iconic La Liga so far, their competition always provides an exciting spectacle. However, I imagine what if they both move from La Liga or decide to retire? what will happen with Barcelona and Real Madrid?

They will stay the same with or without them. El clasico and laliga has attract alot of viewers even way before both of them started playing in laliga so even without them there will always be another player out there that will take their places and the league will continue as it is right now
Yeaaa the rivalry has exist since long time ago but with additional messi and ronaldo rivalry there makes elclassico more attractive and recognized as the greatest elclassico ever which i pretty agree with that too.
No matter if there is no players rivalry involved in elclassico the rivalry have set so strong.
1660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice sites with highest speed on: December 06, 2016, 10:58:23 AM
Based on my own experience and since I only play with small amount of satoshi each time I run my auto betting, I can say that Bitsler has the best roll speed. I already compared it with some other sites with same method and same bet amount. When we got good speed with dust then anything above it would be better for sure.

Yes I agree Bitsler have the fastest speed. I only discover and think about it today, since I have losing streaks like 9 and 10 in a row for 49.5% chance bets in a very short period of time. It took a lot longer to happen for other sites like Nitrogensports, so now I notice it is the speed difference.
You must give a shot on bitdice.me , for me it was the fastest speed rolling the dice.
It is just my opinion based my personal experience although i am not playing dice regularly but i can make a vouch.
Also primedice who have ran for years and have a lot of improvement in last two years is one of the greatest / fastest dice site to play.
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