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1701  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: November 24, 2016, 04:01:42 AM
Trading is unpredictable and I think that its almost similar to gambling these days so that says already enough in my eyes.

if you learn about the analysis of trading, then you can make your own prediction in how much price it will be down and up with right and i think trading is not the same as gambling. but i am agree that trading is unpredictable and we can prevent this with the lesson and experience we have so we can manage the profit and the loss we have get.
both gambling and trading is not the same thing , but both have a something similar .
such as when you are trying to guess the price of the market in trading , you also guess the outcome of dice number in gambling.
that two behavior is basically same , but trading more realistic as guessing based on fact in the real world when gambling pure just guessing.
1702  Economy / Digital goods / Re: WTB Battlefield 1 and fifa 17 on: November 24, 2016, 03:44:45 AM
I want to buy battlefield 1 and fifa 17 for bitcoin will take the lowest price.
As i have heard at some country the price is so low , and i am looking for do a business.
Buy from you who have lower price country to resell it. If you are a green trust member i will go first otherwise we should use escrow.

You may want to check out these threads and shoot its OP a PM for inquiry:

Battlefield 1 sale at $49/key
[WTS] Battlefield 1 - 34.99$
thanks for the reference , i have contacted one of them.
while waiting reply and the deal , i will keep looking for the fifa 17 origin cd key.
i need 3 fifa 17 origin cd key , so please contact me over here or just pm me Smiley.
1703  Economy / Gambling / Re: Monthly Best Gambling Site (November) on: November 24, 2016, 03:31:40 AM
Shills everywhere Smiley



lol, and its too obvious also Tongue , 15 posts from 15 newbie members lol
and sometimes shills account created to destroy rival reputation , don't you agree?
i just see there is a jealous between you both for not winning this vote.
don't take it seriously , people will not consider this vote as a reliable one as long as there is no real indicator such as this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.0  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0 .
1704  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Buying clothes with bitcoins? on: November 24, 2016, 03:22:36 AM
In my country, India, anything like this isnt happening anytime soon. However some of bitcoin monetization is starting, but it will take a long time, and 99% of the people here are illiterate about bitcoins, and wont accept it as a payment method anytime soon. Also, many people here dont have internet connections even, so this would take a real while.

Same to my country bitcoins is not known by mostly all of people here, thats why i can't see any shops nor local online store who's accepting it as their payment processor, maybe it will take time for this coin to get in their nerves and be accepted but im not sure that it will happen since bitcoins flactuation are really is the main cause why we cant see big adoption for it, but we dont know what will happen in the future and lets hope for better path for bitcoins.

Yeah, too many countries have that problem, i also never see any shop where i can buy cloth with bitcoin in open market, but i am thinking why we use our bitcoins only for buying clothes? Because bitcoin is not a easy thing and cloth is not difficult to buy them.   

I agree its still pretty difficult to do it right now and I hope this will change but we still have to see this of course.
Lets hope this will happen I have my doubts about it but most likely it will happen.
it is okay bitcoin just live for 8-9 years until today there is a lot of progress.
just the matter of time bitcoin can be more popular and adopted everywhere.
i believe there is a lot of clothes store accepted bitcoin already , it is just not available in every country, be patient and keep support is the key.
1705  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How work Fibonacci strategy? on: November 24, 2016, 03:11:24 AM
Fibonacci will never be profitable as it simply adds the last two numbers together.

From the first bet on if you lose you will end up making a loss when using those numbers to dictate your betting.

Martingale does work if you have unlimited bankroll and unlimited max bet. These two however are never the case and a long losing streak will result in you losing it all.
fibonacci strategy is similar to martingale but this one has less aggressive.
used both strategy just to make your bets more varies not for making profit.
you have to know that it was fact that any strategy doesn't change anything in gambling , fibonacci, martingale, d'Alembert  etc all just to make a variation nothing more.
1706  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin traders, why don't you just trade forex? on: November 24, 2016, 02:52:48 AM
Honestly people try bitcoin & altcoin trading because of very high profit and loss probability. Here, everything happens with a huge percentage, either loss or profit. Sometimes you can get richer in few seconds or poorer in a few minutes.
your opinion sounds like bitcoin is a high risk investment such as HYIP or something.
i don't think it was the main reason why people trade bitcoin instead regular forex.
bitcoin trading run for 24/7 , forex cannot afford to do that , so simply in bitcoin you can even trade in holiday!
1707  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: There is no life in Gambling can you accept this....?? on: November 24, 2016, 02:40:00 AM
My wife told me to quit gambling. She thinks that if she can see transaction on the my credit card she knows everything. Thank you Satoshi for Bitcoin. She has no idea  Grin Cheesy Smiley

You are crazy, aside from being addicted to gambling. Your wife wants's you to stop gambling because she obviously knows what could be the worst effect that you will be having in the end. You should better listen to her rather than hiding it, if you really can't control it then just ask some amounts probably that she can afford to lose, she would better understand you that way.
there is a life when you hiding your gambling habit inside complicated thing called bitcoin lol.
i do agree sometimes bitcoin have a benefit in this situation.
i mean when someone in your family strictly prohibit you to gamble then bitcoin come solve it all.
But I think it depend on the way you play gambling if you play gambling in good manner if you have a good strategy for playing gambling then certainly there is fun and enjoyment in gambling is possible for you, but if you have no gambling strategy then there is in fact no life in gambling finally.
what good manner? what kind strategy that gives you an entertainment?
soundslike you are talking nonsense  Roll Eyes about a strategy  provide you a life in gambling.
things make gambling make you feel like really life is when you get the excitement waiting for the outcome and won it.
1708  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: November 24, 2016, 02:19:50 AM
No i think messi today have more value than several years ago.
If i remember correctly there is a rumour says real madrid can spend 500 million euro to hijack messi from barcelona.
But since barcelona still need his service badly they will never let messi go no matter what.


500 millions for messi alone is quite insane because with 500 millions you could get alot of great player in fact the whole squad to fill up the entire position that you feel need some extra players on. It is just crazy to even think that there will be a team that wants to sign messi with that huge amount
everyone know that , but they are living in business world.
means those 500 million worth to the business that can grow faster in the future, such as ibrahimovic in manchester united.
messi is known as the best footballer in the world , a lot of apparel industry will offering a new contract when he move.
1709  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: November 24, 2016, 01:59:41 AM
I were able to stop gamble when i saw it were eating my finances, i had set a limit for my gamble purposes, but the people addicted to gamble does face uses problems trying to left those and not being able, if you do have childs, you should do those for them, for they be able to get some future and see you as an example and not a huge problem.
yeaaa gambling will never be a good thing if you do it for money , it is just torture you.
just try to hold your desire to gamble , wipe your thought to make easy money.
and sometimes thinking about something more important and precious such as childs and wife welfare help you out of this.
1710  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your aim in gambling???? on: November 23, 2016, 12:51:35 PM
My aim is to make $2000 within my first year of gambling. So far I've made roughly 1200, so I think the other 800 dollars is doable in 6 months.

$2000 is not big goal to achieve but only with gambling that looking very strange as you claimed you already got $1200 as pure profit in 6 months than it looking very possible for you, I think the important thing in gambling we always stay under the some limit never get greedy to achieve goal in a day, but in long term gambling ending with get busted so you must keep this in mind before keep you playing.
It depends if he started with 20 dollars then making 2000 is in fact great profit in terms of percentage if in the other hand he had 10K as capital then that is not really a lot of earnings taking into account how risky is to play casino games and to come on top of the casino.

For me, $2,000 is already a big goal to achieve for the whole year. But within my expectation I don't usually aim big amount as I gamble. My aim is just to get myself entertained as I gamble and whatever it takes or if I do experience some winnings and returns. Then that is just going to be fine with me.
At least by setting a goal you will have a limit.
As long as you did not push the limit you will not losing money too much.
For example if you did not have a plan once you reached $2,000 you will not stop playing, you will keep staking until you lost it all back to zero.
1711  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: There is no life in Gambling can you accept this....?? on: November 23, 2016, 12:16:56 PM
My wife told me to quit gambling. She thinks that if she can see transaction on the my credit card she knows everything. Thank you Satoshi for Bitcoin. She has no idea  Grin Cheesy Smiley

You are crazy, aside from being addicted to gambling. Your wife wants's you to stop gambling because she obviously knows what could be the worst effect that you will be having in the end. You should better listen to her rather than hiding it, if you really can't control it then just ask some amounts probably that she can afford to lose, she would better understand you that way.
there is a life when you hiding your gambling habit inside complicated thing called bitcoin lol.
i do agree sometimes bitcoin have a benefit in this situation.
i mean when someone in your family strictly prohibit you to gamble then bitcoin come solve it all.
1712  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: November 23, 2016, 11:21:44 AM
For me the safest way to gamble is betting about 0.01% of your balance, with that strategy and discipline you will get a possible 0.01% of losing your whole balance. Most of the time the safest thing is the slowest.
That is a good estimate for to gamble but some people have a very lowest balance and 0.01% of which will not be much beneficial for to give him much profit for to earn and so they will have to keep a little higher amount of that for to play effectively. It is the condition when I was a student that is why I mentioned that condition.

Then you must deposit or invest to your prefer gambling site so you can do this 0.01% bet. Most of the gambling site has a minimum decimal value that can accumulate your bet so you must be above that to profit within the range of your desire bet. If you don't have money, don't gamble.
it might work to make you gambling in more safe way by put those low percentage.
but still you need bankroll management , to avoid losing control.
frequently people get heated even you stat bet with 0.01% you still can lost 100% if you keep playing without bankroll management.
1713  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: November 23, 2016, 10:50:59 AM
Noone know how loyal messi is, everyone love money.
So if then messi offered a lot of money to move , i guess it will be hard decision for him to reject the offer.
But yeaaa as long as there is still no the next messi in barcelona he will never leaving.


Messi is loyal to the club and there is no way that he is going to move to another club just because of money. If it is personal issue or something then the club will settle the issue and not let their special wonderkid move to another club. Messi wouldnt want that either unless things cant be fixed anymore
yes you're obviously true that Messi is very loyal to Barcelona because if he really want money then several years ago he would leaving Barcelona and no necessary to wait until this year because if i'm not mistaken that Inter, PSG and manchester City has been offering huge salary for him on condition that he must move to other clubs but he has refuse those offers and preferring to remain playing on Barcelona

No i think messi today have more value than several years ago.
If i remember correctly there is a rumour says real madrid can spend 500 million euro to hijack messi from barcelona.
But since barcelona still need his service badly they will never let messi go no matter what.
1714  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Portuguese League Prediction Thread (Primeira Liga) on: November 23, 2016, 10:12:42 AM
MATCH DATE 26.11.2016. (3rd)

Match: CF Belenenses v FC Porto
Betting option: Both teams to score YES
Odd: 2.25
Stake: 0.015 BTC (15 mBTC)
Return: 0.03375 BTC (33.75 mBTC)

Teams play well but Porto is little drop on form in last 2-3 games but this match will end will goals they scored in last meetings around 2-3 goals in last several games they play each other so i expect to keep up in following match, bet both team to score seem good pick.

both teams is not in the good shape even Porto only able playing draw against FC Copenhagen on champion league and CF Belenenses also already have experience to lost several times this season and i think these teams is unstable however i do agree with your pick but if you're dare try to combine your pick with under 2.5 goals because their statistics showing that Porto have serious problem during their match they are not always able to make a goals so on my predictions the result of this match will be lack of goals

Both teams is indeed not in good situation , but porto clearly is better than the home team.
The only porto problem is the las t 3 away match always finished draw, they cannot afford to win.
But because balenenses much more worse than porto situation i think porto can win the match with over 2 goals margin , so i will go for over 2.5 goals.
1715  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Prediction ligue 1, france football league on: November 23, 2016, 09:28:44 AM
This is my 2nd bet single bet for this week Ligue 1,I picked match
Rennes vs Toulouse played Friday Nov 25 ,2016 at 19:45 (Forum Time)

This event can be accessed here: https://sportsbet.io/sports/pre-live/soccer-france-ligue-1/fc-stade-rennes-v-fc-toulouse/event/9539817?ref=tipster8

Rennes vs Toulouse
Double Chance + Both teams score : Home.Away/Yes
Starts Friday at 19:45
Odds: @3.30
Stake:0.015 BTC (15.00mBTC)
Potential Win :0.0495 BTC (49.50 mBTC)

Here is the proof of this bet:


Why I chose this:
Rennes at home didn't succeed to win fully but ended last match at draw. Toulouse
will drag being element of pressure on Rennes which will cause of goals by each side.
Rennes has to win else Toulouse in spite of ordinary form will take the match.
A good odds you got there, i agree that the match will not ended draw.
But i think ligue 1 matches really rare have a result both teams scored as the strikers there not good enough.
3 days ago all league 1 matches finished both teams not scoring 0-3 ,0-1 and 2-0 i doubt rennes vs toulouse both can score.
1716  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: November 23, 2016, 09:10:36 AM
Manchester city vs Borussia and barcelona vs Celtic
Manchester city and Barcelona will be easy to win on this match.
Don't worry to bet on over 2.5 goals.

Yeaaa i am going to bet all in favorites teams tonight, should be easy money.
Arsenal , manchester city, atletico madrid, barcelona and fc basel all moneyline!
Because yesterday there is a lot of goals scored already, i think this one gonna be low goals scored matchday, under 2.5 goals for all the matches!
1717  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you want to become Rich you need to Put Higher bets on: November 23, 2016, 08:44:03 AM
to test your luck you have to bet high amount, you can do with small amount too.
Noone will do to put higher bet amount continuously to be come rich.
It is a bad way to reach your ambition to become rich .
In my opinion with higher bet amounts, instead of getting rich from gambling, a gambler will become poor in quick time itself.

It is proven that gambling will not support anyone to become rich. At the same time we can assume, your bet amount will decide how quick you will become poor. If you bet in higher amounts, it might mean that you are rushing towards your poverty.
As long as you can control yourself to not become greed i guess you will not poor.
I mean when you bet big amount and won it , just cash it out immediately don't gamble again.
Wait for another time to test your luck, and always stake the amount that you can afford to lose.
1718  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 22, 2016, 11:57:26 PM
West Brom vs Burnley FC I don't think either of these two teams will come out as winners and therefore I bet draw or home and under 2.5 goals.

Bad luck with this one last night bro, I don't think anybody could have predicted West Brom to win 4-0. Teams managed by Tony Pulis aren't known for scoring lots of goals so this was a surprise.
Considering tom heaton the goalkeeper which is incredible made a lot of saves under burnley goal.
Yeaaa i was not expect burnley can conceded 4 goals to west bromwich , draw should be the fair result.
I just think west bromwich a little more lucky in the early minutes , make them play confidently.
1719  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: November 22, 2016, 11:41:32 PM
reported that Messi will not extend his contract at Barcelona, because he was upset with the Spanish government about the case of tax. This issue will make the other teams get the signature Messi who can help the team to get some degree.

Nah, I don't think that Messi will ever leave the best team in the world, even if they won't offer him any salary at all he is going to  stay.

He made enough money during his career so he is not greedy at all and he is not playing to gain profit and to earn money, he is playing to gain respect and reputation, and the money at this period of his career is just a bonus.

Messi will never leave Barcelona until he retires, and I don't think that anyone will do that unless he is a bench player and he is not included at games.

Messi might have a season or two in the US when he's like 38 or something, maybe even go back to Argentina or something. He won't leave whilst he's still able to play at the very top level though.
Noone know how loyal messi is, everyone love money.
So if then messi offered a lot of money to move , i guess it will be hard decision for him to reject the offer.
But yeaaa as long as there is still no the next messi in barcelona he will never leaving.
1720  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: US Election - gains/loses on: November 22, 2016, 11:23:08 PM
iam not play gamble in us election
because only one event is very high risk to play
i think much people is lost, because the strong candidate Hillary clinton losses
Yup, we got an unpredictable result in US election. I think except US citizens all people thought that Hillary would win this election. All media people are supported to Hillary. So based on media news many people are placed bet on Hillary. But no one expected that Trump would become next president of US. I am also not put my bet on this event.
I did put a small bet of $50 on Trump, but I disagree that is was unpredictable, he was there, he could be voted and he was in fact voted, what it failed where the instruments to accurately measure the voting intentions of the people, but many were able to tell that Trump had in fact good enough chances to win the election.
For the americans it might not surprising at all trump can win the election.
But for most people around the world , it was shocking unexpected result.
All media around the world almost sure no chance for trump to win over hillary clinton, too bad it was wrong.
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