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1381  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: February 13, 2017, 05:18:30 PM
bitcoin itself cannot be a profitable activity. if you want to do a profitable and healthy activity than better keep yourself away from gambling and choose a legit way of earning and profit.. I don't know why lots of people interested in trading but I never saw someone getting rich or any kind of profit.
i am sorry , your words seems misleading here about "bitcoin itself cannot be profitable" .
you mean gambling with bitcoin ? actually there always a way , it is depend on how you do and handle it.
mostly have bad result when comes to gambling indeed and i admit about it too, really low chance for you to make gambling profitable in the long run.
1382  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: February 13, 2017, 05:05:15 PM
What matters if the bitcoin price does not matter, the bitcoin price actually shows how much worth a bitcoin, we know that it changes and many of us value a bitcoin to 1k or 2k but the price shows the reality of 1 btc
you know when the price back in 2009 ? it was almost worthless.
but hey it is become so worthy right now , wonder why?
simply everything not depends on price , but the value can be seen on bring something forward for the future. and bitcoin has it.
1383  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you beat the house edge on: February 12, 2017, 06:29:47 PM
Can't you beat the house edge? Today, with all these Bitcoin casinos and dices, I think it would be possible to beat small house edge with like 1%.
I always deposit small amount on site and when I make it to a good balance I withdraw, then I play with faucet and loose till the next deposit.
Can you share your experience with the gambling?
No. you can't beat house edge, unless you have infinite bankroll/ you are extremely lucky!
Infinite bankroll is useless the best thing would be extreme luck which is the most important thing on playing gambling.Beating house edge is hard for longer runs.
house edge exist to make the casino owner always in favor to get profit over their players.
so for me you can always beat them , it is only the matter are you gonna make it long term or just for once?or twice?
if then you want make it for long time , i don't think you can hold it longer enough.
1384  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: February 12, 2017, 05:38:46 PM
Slot games are good but I do not rely on slots for more longer because in these type of games I often feel that the  winning of the game is totally coded by the developers. Maybe they will be fair but even in that games I often think there may be something which will make me lose the money and it all because of it all depend on luck.
lol even in real life slots machine is the hardest game to win.
you know why? it is because this game required luck , nothing more , the game also is offering a huge winning that's why there is rare winner.
you should play this game really for fun , not to play regularly , it is gonna be the biggest mistake if you do it.
1385  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Fortune Jack a Scam or are they Legit? on: February 12, 2017, 05:11:26 PM
Anyone get paid by them?
I did gamble a lot on fortunejack (i can't count and remember how many times i've gamble on fortunejack). Never had any problem too when i withdrew my money, atleast they aren't scam site. Their support's response also fast when i need to ask something. I think they are a legit casino.
But one problem I faced almost half of the times I try to login is, when I try to login with my username pass, it then asks for captchas and when I fill the captcha it just redirects back to normal page. While sometimes it works and though login had issues I never had any issues at all at all with deposits and withdrawals. The withdrawals aren't instant but usually takes a few mins only.
captcha inserted for security reason, afaik last year or so they got DDOS attack.
and the problem about it is redirect back it is because your internet connection so poor , i have experienced it too.
so far they have no serious problem which you can consider them as legit , a little problem is normal as long as they have a good intention to fix it later.
1386  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: February 12, 2017, 04:41:36 PM
All of the interest in gambling is the fun and entertainment involve in gambling that is why people do not leave to gamble even in the time when they continue to lose their money. They mostly put smaller amount of money in gambling in order to continue their gambling for getting the fun.
i guess there is a lot of people keep increasing their bets lost after lost rather than drop the bet amount.
why? it is because how gambling always drive them into bigger problem it is addictive.
they know they will lost in the end , but nothing to do when you play against an addiction.
1387  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: February 12, 2017, 04:13:57 PM
Gambling is a sickness for some gamblers but of course not for the all of them. Some people just enjoy the game and never lose to it all they have or even a significant amount for them. I personally know several gamblers, online and irl ones, who are gambling for years not becoming gambling addicts.

That's when gambling is considered sickness is when they are already enjoying it and they do it for several times and they are affected by gambling with their daily lives. But when they are winning and their standing is very good and the fun never stops. Good thing that there are people that can manage to be not sicked with gambling including me.  Cheesy
A lot of people went crazy because of gambling , they cannot afford to lose but the did it anyway.
Causing them in a lot of debt and desperate to continue their lives and even try to suicide.
That's pretty insane isn't it? The message here is to not gamble what you cannot actually afford to lose, or it is yeaaa become a sickness.

well i don't see gambling really as sickness from a personal point. i've been gambling for several years now and i can say that it has a positive effect on me as it relieves stress and puts me in an enjoyable mood. i think there's such a thing as healthy gambling where in you can be engaged in it without having to worry about becoming addicted. gambling has been around for as long as people learned how to communicate with each other and i think it becomes a sickness only if we do it with an unreasonable amount of time and money,
lol are you sure? nothing positive in gambling , there is only lost lost and lost which bad at all.
what are your stats now by the way? i mean so far you are in profit or what? what makes you thinking that gambling has positive effect to you?.
and yeaaa that's my point don't gamble if you cannot afford it. pretty simple.
1388  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: February 10, 2017, 09:27:11 AM
2017 will be a great year for bitcoin, with the price making a new fondation at $1000 mark, more people will begin using bitcoin in their transcation. However this increase in popularity will bring another trouble for example the fee. There's seems to be more increase unconfirmed transcations lately and the recommended fee becoming more ridiculous  Tongue
yeah I think this is the year of bitcoin. for the price of $ 1,000 occurred again in this year. I myself was very surprised when the price could touch and exceed $ 1,000. and you know the popularity of bitcoin rose rapidly because of these events
everyone talking about all positives things without consider there could be a disaster.
the bitcoin financial system is required internet access , and it could be shut down anytime who knows?
no internet no transaction can be made and it is the end of bitcoin , so don't forget to think about bad things that could possible happened.

This is quite a catastrophic scenario. In that case, any currency wont be very handy, maybe gold/silver coins, but maybe even that would be worthless. Food, water, weapon, shelter and surviving skills would be most appreciated. I do think that man should be prepared for almost anything, but I think/hope that your scenario will never come.
Yeaaa noone wants this terrible scenario to be happened and wish it will never happened.
Anticipation always needed right? So there is no harm to thinking about it.
2017 can be the greatest year ever ( it has actually when reached the higheat price ) but can be the end of era who knows?
1389  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: February 10, 2017, 09:14:30 AM
maybe... But btc is famous because of its wavy motions. If you just hold your btcs doing nothing, you may not gain enough. Its better to try some exchanges / trades etc
Why he will not get anything if he will not do any thing with them. You can see that from the last year the price of bitcoin is tripled up so all of those who have kept their bitcoin doing nothing on their wallet then they have got a good profit from that investment.
If it does not do anything alone can make money, especially if we do trade with short-term,
buy when cheap prices and sell when it is expensive. It'll make us earn a bigger profit than not doing anything
You talking about how good the profit from trading only , without considering the risk you can lost alot!
People always lured with that way but failed in the end.
For me making money by investing long term in bitcoin always be a good idea rather than any other way & investment, why? Simply i am risk taker and i believe in bitcoin!
1390  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin without Altcoin ? on: February 10, 2017, 09:07:19 AM
Bitcoin without the altcoin is not good and it would never came so far without it for sure...
although alt coins are not necessary for bitcoin but still they are providing a little support to bitcoin. as most of the people like to invest their bitcoins in alt coins and for that reason i think alt coins are important for bitcoin.
I think bitcoin does not need Altcoins but I have no problem with the existence of altcoin. although I am a novice trader, but I had some time to get profit from trading bitcoin- altcoin.
true you can see the early months of bitcoin. there may be no other cryptocurrency than bitcoin, but bitcoin can live and thrive, but with the altcoin of course it would be helpful for bitcoin itself
I think it is all just the matter of business.
When someone see there is an opportunity and want to compete with bitcoin then born the first altcoin called namecoin.
And so on , the business keep interesting and growing so fast, then i think almost impossible to see bitcoin stand alone. There will always competition in any business.
1391  Economy / Economics / Re: Will you invest in a MLM scam in early stage? on: February 10, 2017, 08:55:17 AM
I will not invest in an MLM even if I know that I will earn if I join in it in an early stage. If you ever refer someone down the line and later on the MLM company closes, they will put the blame on you for sure and would possible strain your relationship with someone specially if you refer your friends or families and they invest on it then loses the money in the long run.
You seems have a lot of experience on something like HYIP and MLM isn't it? Cheesy
It was the dumbest idea to do invest on 100% guaranteed scam services , never try even for once.
It is dirty business and i guess people nowadays smart enough to avoid this kind services.
1392  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: February 10, 2017, 08:48:18 AM
Besides gambling is a fun activity

gambling is definitely not a fun activity, I dont feel fun with loosing my money or even when I win. I take this thing seriously because it involves money. It is crazy to see someone actually feels fun about losing his money, this is probably the dumbest thing that I have ever read with the exception that money is never an issue for you
lol you can not see something on one side , it might dumb based on your perspective.
but not necessarily it is same way for other people , you have to see on the other side.
you have to make a friend with someone who really don't care about money as they have everything already!
- Gambling will not be happy if you are too focused on money problems. Before playing, you should determines that you play because fun or because money
- I know the things related to money are often very sensitive, but you also should not tell other people crazy or stupid. If you say gambling is not fun, you can not play. But if you play, you should enjoy the feeling fun while playing. Not to judge others when you are not in their position
There's a lot of people who keep smile even they lost a lot of money.
Why they can do that? Because they really gamble responsibly, they only lost money that they can afford to lose.
So no problem! The problem here is when people still cannot gamble responsibly, and keep playing even it was hot money that urgently needed in the near future.
1393  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: February 10, 2017, 08:35:52 AM
I tried many times to become rich with gambling but it is not possible because through gambling we will make little amount of profit, to become rich is very difficult. Gambling is simple way to make little amount profit, but if you look for higher profit than ultimately you will loose all your money.
Lol on what kind gambling you've tried ? Playing dice with 2.0 muliplier or so?
Keep dreaming, with that way you will mever reach your goal , and even you will just get sucked by the house edge.
Will be better to gibe a shot on small amount bet with high multiplier such as parlay in sportsbetting or slots machine jackpot.
1394  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you manage ur emotions? on: February 10, 2017, 08:18:42 AM
very difficult, the most difficult job of the world.
Just like gambling, trading is a hard job emotionally that is, because it involves a lot of risks and a lot of patience, and also a lot of money, because with trading for example you don’t expect to win every time, you are going have to lose, so as said above make sure to trade with a small amount that you are willing to give don’t be greedy.
No wonder a lot of people consider trading such as gambling overall.
Even though it is required skills but still trading without having control to cut the loss and stop on certain profit doesn't have any difference such as gambling.
Managing your emotion to not become greedy it is important more than anything.
1395  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: February 10, 2017, 07:55:42 AM
Not all games need analysis but when waging on sports events  I have to go through past games played, any injury concerns of the team and avoid leagues known for match fixing altogether to avoid any surprise results.
Believe it or not analyzing games in sports betting works 70% of the time!
Without doubts, all the analysis are not always true that is why I always use my own judgment and try to gamble live on a game, so that way I can ensure earning profit without risking too much and not putting it all on luck, that is why I have been earning a lot and win 90% of my gambling on games.

not always true but close to correct and accurate isn't it?
watching the game live also is part of an analysis i think , so unconsciously you have been used analysis.
in my viwepoint it's work only for sportsbetting , the other games is having no effect at all.
Certainly, it's one of the most effective technique which is what we called live better. Once we watch the game, we know what is going on and we can make a good decision by watching the line offers by a certain sports book. I made this and it gives me constant success. It's good if you have good bankroll, so it's not a waste of time that you spend.
Yeaaa people should aware already about it , but still luck is the last factor for you to win.
Not analysis, not how much money you have but luck even it is in sportsbetting and you experienced enough.
Gambling is gambling you staking money there and have know already what is the consequence.
1396  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: In what situation would Bitcoin die? on: February 10, 2017, 07:41:15 AM
two scenario a might see here, one is witht he value, connected with regulation of the exchange

we see how easy is for chinese to dump everything and kill 30% of the value in no time, because they fear their government...

another one is if you destroy those big farm in china, which it's surely possible to do
A lot of scenario actually things that can make bitcoin gone forever and die.
Since bitcoin running by internet connection and then once internet disappear that time bitcoin useless.
Even though it seems impossible to be happened but it is worth to be anticipated, isn't it?
1397  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in casinos on: February 10, 2017, 07:26:05 AM
Well, now i have no experience of investing in casinos, but so far as i know it will be trust-able, becasue i don't see any bad thing about any gambling sites, and i am show all gambling sites are trust-able. So if you want to invest in any casino than should see the history about this casino, otherwise, i think it is a good idea. 

Why not try for yourself? It is not that bad to invest in casino's even the returns and profits are not that high but if you want to diversify the bitcoins you got. Investing in casino's is one of the best investment so far, just choose the casino's that are reputable and has good record from their early investors. Try it for yourself.
you should never to expect a high return when it comes to an investment.
the ROI will not attracting you but at least provide you a promising profit compared to do business by yourself.
the risk lower than have to gamble by yourself or do your own business, especially in casino investment where there is few case casino bankroll down to zero.

the risk of investing in a casino's bankroll is still pretty high because it is gambling. specially when it come to some of these dice sites. you can check out that famous topic for investments, you can clearly see the high risk of investing in some of these casinos.
in some cases the loss was pretty huge, as big as 20+% lost for the investors.
Yeaaa i know it , but the basic thing that makes casino owners always get profit is because of house edge.
Automatically makes the investor there get profit too.
So basically it was pretty interesting to invest in a casino because of the risk is worth taken.
1398  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: February 10, 2017, 05:03:18 AM
Gambling is a sickness for some gamblers but of course not for the all of them. Some people just enjoy the game and never lose to it all they have or even a significant amount for them. I personally know several gamblers, online and irl ones, who are gambling for years not becoming gambling addicts.

That's when gambling is considered sickness is when they are already enjoying it and they do it for several times and they are affected by gambling with their daily lives. But when they are winning and their standing is very good and the fun never stops. Good thing that there are people that can manage to be not sicked with gambling including me.  Cheesy
A lot of people went crazy because of gambling , they cannot afford to lose but the did it anyway.
Causing them in a lot of debt and desperate to continue their lives and even try to suicide.
That's pretty insane isn't it? The message here is to not gamble what you cannot actually afford to lose, or it is yeaaa become a sickness.
1399  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: February 10, 2017, 04:18:17 AM
I tried the martingale strategy and some modifications of it. The bottom line is that the odds are against us and you will eventually lose. If you are lucky enough to get ahead, quit and take the profits.

The house edge will always caught us unaware if we become so greedy and never stop betting. It is always a good idea to keep a realistic and achievable daily profit and once you hit that goal, stop right away in order for you not be beaten by the house edge.
Yeaaa first of all you need to know your limit to make sure you are not break the house edge and back to lost.
Then do gamble occasionally not as regular gambler , in the long run there is a little chance for you to keep get a profit.
Although a game like dice have a fast result , you can always manage your bankroll as long as you are discipline.
1400  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Question about Gambling on: February 10, 2017, 03:50:23 AM
No, you are not obligated to give him the .2

You worked on a 10% profit commission basis and it was his investment...
That's true, imho he should know that when he did it , it was considered high risk investment.
However put a trust someone online always have a bad ending.
Just a suggestion to everyone here to avoid something like this , if you cannot really responsible on what you have done, just grow up!
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