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1361  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Your biggest bitcoin regrets? on: February 17, 2017, 08:28:00 AM
Didn't cash out when its was like 1000$ and bought again when it fell down..

that was my biggest mistake

I can't see any regret here. If you can just look upon the price of bitcoin now, is now back to $1,000 and keep on moving forward.

I can consider buying at lower price is my regret but I won't say that it is my biggest regret.

Maybe not believing my friend for encouraging me to go with bitcoin earlier is one of my biggest regret in bitcoin.
You might talking about holding bitcoin in the long run right?
It is indeed still worth to keep holding till there is no interest in bitcoin then you should start to worry.
Regret only when you failed to hold yourself to sell your bitcoin in higher price , as for example where in the next few hours the price increased drastically up to 30% but then you did not hold any bitcoin.
1362  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: February 16, 2017, 05:17:25 PM
maybe... But btc is famous because of its wavy motions. If you just hold your btcs doing nothing, you may not gain enough. Its better to try some exchanges / trades etc
Why he will not get anything if he will not do any thing with them. You can see that from the last year the price of bitcoin is tripled up so all of those who have kept their bitcoin doing nothing on their wallet then they have got a good profit from that investment.
If it does not do anything alone can make money, especially if we do trade with short-term,
buy when cheap prices and sell when it is expensive. It'll make us earn a bigger profit than not doing anything
You talking about how good the profit from trading only , without considering the risk you can lost alot!
People always lured with that way but failed in the end.
For me making money by investing long term in bitcoin always be a good idea rather than any other way & investment, why? Simply i am risk taker and i believe in bitcoin!

What you said is true, everyone talks about profit from trading but no one tells about the risk of loss in trading also, their are so many users who are in big loss due to trading in altcoin without knowing about the coin features and get scammed by scam coins,

That is why if you are earning other income then save from that and buy bitcoins and keep for long term apart from that you can earn bitcoins through this forum buy doing lot of task.
So yeaaa it is always better to invest in the long term if you have no time to trade in daily basis.
Trading required experience and skills to analyze the market and some news that could affceted.
And for those people who is too busy to just learn and looking for an experience , the best choice to make money in the long run always an investment business.
Investing into long term is a good way to make better earning,  at the same something important to be considered on the go is to make changes or sell the invested amount by withdrawing it,  because at times the price reaches peak.  We need to be careful to use the right time to make good profit out of it. Else you might feel bad if price drops during the time of withdrawal on urgent needs.
The point is when you can not afford to manage the money to make profit through a short term business such as trading or something like that , then you should not do it.
Take a look to another oportunity such as this long term investment in bitcoin , if it has better chance for you then take it seriously.
1363  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is no longer a currency on: February 16, 2017, 04:51:52 PM
actually I agree that bitcoin is not a currency, when we talk about currency there is always a party that controlled it, but most of the people used it for currency and it is acceptable for some user as an exchange tools that makes bitcoin as a currency, and I like all of us treat bitcoin as a currency because it is really efficient to used

No, we should agree on it, bitcoin is a currency, if it is not currency, So why we use to bitcoin for payment wise, and also we covert the bitcoin into fiat currency. Do you use any other thing alternative for currency?
No off course, we use only currency whenever we buy something and anything. Bitcoin is a pure currency but its name is cyrpto.
With a thought such as you have said it could make gold as a currency too right?
Gold have been used to trade, used as a payment and could be converted to fiat too.
Things make people consider bitcoin as not a currency anymore is because the price/value that way too high.
1364  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: February 16, 2017, 03:48:04 PM
Gambling is a sickness for some gamblers but of course not for the all of them. Some people just enjoy the game and never lose to it all they have or even a significant amount for them. I personally know several gamblers, online and irl ones, who are gambling for years not becoming gambling addicts.

That's when gambling is considered sickness is when they are already enjoying it and they do it for several times and they are affected by gambling with their daily lives. But when they are winning and their standing is very good and the fun never stops. Good thing that there are people that can manage to be not sicked with gambling including me.  Cheesy
A lot of people went crazy because of gambling , they cannot afford to lose but the did it anyway.
Causing them in a lot of debt and desperate to continue their lives and even try to suicide.
That's pretty insane isn't it? The message here is to not gamble what you cannot actually afford to lose, or it is yeaaa become a sickness.

well i don't see gambling really as sickness from a personal point. i've been gambling for several years now and i can say that it has a positive effect on me as it relieves stress and puts me in an enjoyable mood. i think there's such a thing as healthy gambling where in you can be engaged in it without having to worry about becoming addicted. gambling has been around for as long as people learned how to communicate with each other and i think it becomes a sickness only if we do it with an unreasonable amount of time and money,
lol are you sure? nothing positive in gambling , there is only lost lost and lost which bad at all.
what are your stats now by the way? i mean so far you are in profit or what? what makes you thinking that gambling has positive effect to you?.
and yeaaa that's my point don't gamble if you cannot afford it. pretty simple.

I agree with you, I also think too many bad things caused by gambling. I think what we do is a waste of money. Even though you win the game, I'm pretty sure you do not add the money you have from the previous one. Because I'm sure the number that you can defeat more than victory . It has become the path of a gamble game.
It is always be the main problem of many player.
they know it has been waste their time and money but still  they keep repeating the same thing for long time.
It has been a sickness for those people who can not control their emotion to want an impossible winning in the long run.
1365  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you choose casino to play? on: February 16, 2017, 03:06:02 PM
I think all possible answers has been posted, so what next OP? Will you wait till many people saying the same thing again and again? I think there is no need to keep this thread alive as you will only get the same answer.  Lock this thread asap!


Yeaaa i guess it is enough as a reference to improve his casino to be better .
with current data based on people opinion he should get a point what people want when choosing a place to gamble.
But there is no harm to keep this thread alive rather than close this one but then popping up another similar topics.
1366  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: February 15, 2017, 05:04:58 PM
maybe... But btc is famous because of its wavy motions. If you just hold your btcs doing nothing, you may not gain enough. Its better to try some exchanges / trades etc
Why he will not get anything if he will not do any thing with them. You can see that from the last year the price of bitcoin is tripled up so all of those who have kept their bitcoin doing nothing on their wallet then they have got a good profit from that investment.
If it does not do anything alone can make money, especially if we do trade with short-term,
buy when cheap prices and sell when it is expensive. It'll make us earn a bigger profit than not doing anything
You talking about how good the profit from trading only , without considering the risk you can lost alot!
People always lured with that way but failed in the end.
For me making money by investing long term in bitcoin always be a good idea rather than any other way & investment, why? Simply i am risk taker and i believe in bitcoin!

What you said is true, everyone talks about profit from trading but no one tells about the risk of loss in trading also, their are so many users who are in big loss due to trading in altcoin without knowing about the coin features and get scammed by scam coins,

That is why if you are earning other income then save from that and buy bitcoins and keep for long term apart from that you can earn bitcoins through this forum buy doing lot of task.
So yeaaa it is always better to invest in the long term if you have no time to trade in daily basis.
Trading required experience and skills to analyze the market and some news that could affceted.
And for those people who is too busy to just learn and looking for an experience , the best choice to make money in the long run always an investment business.
1367  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: February 15, 2017, 04:50:24 PM
All of the interest in gambling is the fun and entertainment involve in gambling that is why people do not leave to gamble even in the time when they continue to lose their money. They mostly put smaller amount of money in gambling in order to continue their gambling for getting the fun.
i guess there is a lot of people keep increasing their bets lost after lost rather than drop the bet amount.
why? it is because how gambling always drive them into bigger problem it is addictive.
they know they will lost in the end , but nothing to do when you play against an addiction.

i believe that you are referring to a strategy called martingale and that is not based on random increasing the bet size, it actually is a strategy in gambling.
it is not the best strategy but it gets the job done. whenever you lose a bet you increase the bet size to an amount that can cover the loss of this bet and if you win gives you something leftover to work with.
Actually it is not what i mean , when you lost you will feel have to recover the last bet that you have done.
No matter it is doubling or even tripling the bet, you will always want to recover and make a bigger bet amount.
Then you are in deep lost that hard to make it back, frustated and gamble like zombie that have no goal to achieved.
1368  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: February 15, 2017, 04:34:50 PM
Trading is a kind of gambling to those who don't know anything how trading works and those who don't have any kind of skills in general. I have done trading on iqoption as they need minimum investment of 10$ and didn't know anything about it and somehow I reached 300$ I think it is like gambling but later when I tried again i lost so think you can play it as gambling but I would recommend you to gamble instead of trading.
So how about when someone who have no idea about investment but then do invest however.
You will say that investment as gambling too? The meaning of gambling itself is actually simple.
Anything that done randomly, baseless and hoping for benefit but you don't know how to make it happen then it is called gambling.
1369  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: February 15, 2017, 04:23:12 PM
hello everyone.
i want to know what do you think about gambling bitcoin.. Does Beneficial or more losses?
Share your story here guys!  Grin Grin Grin

I know you already know the answer to your own question. But anyway, out of 100% I think 95% would say gambling is not a good habit.  and 5% are those people who gamble because for themselves it gives them profit and enjoyment. But logically, or common sense only if we don't like to waste our money or investment we should not ever try to do gamble in the gambling site. So our money will be safe.
This is direct to the point because if we dont really like to lose our money or we do value our money soo much then we should really not tend to play gambling at all since on the beginning because on playing it you will surely lose lots of your money and you dont want for it to be happen to you.
If you can treat gambling properly i guess there is nothing wrong.
But since nowadays a lot of people use gambling as source of income things turn wrong and worse.
They can not afford to lose but want to keep playing and get profit, it is not makes sense .
1370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: February 15, 2017, 11:30:21 AM
It is reality whenever we win and than we want more to win in gambling, and do more bet, and in this way, we lose our all winning amount. So it doesn't mean we are rich from gambling, its mean we win money from gambling and lose money in gambling.   

In the matter of EV- gambling you wont really win anything unless you win quite huge amount from the start through variance however let that alone, most people wont do such thing and go for huge amount from the start which is a mistake as people feel safer to bet low on the beginning and try to increase it however in the long run, that thing wont work

No matter you trying to bet with low amount or bigger amout it won't make you rich.
In the last 5 years i never heard people around me become rich though gambling.
And it is enough for me as a proof there is few people can reach the goal to become rich or something like that.
1371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where and which part of day do you gamble? on: February 15, 2017, 10:48:37 AM
I play at night time mostly as day time I am doing my regular job. Similarly at weekends I prefer to visit casinos in company of my friends to have some fun and joy together. Rest of the time I do online gambling on different odd sports gambling sites to get more convenient and easy way to perform so gambling bets.
Do you find yourself luckier at certain time?
It all just a myth, nothing can proof that if you play at certain time will make you having luck.
I don't believe on something like that, just be realistic.
Gambling randomly whenever and wherever, that's why it is called gambling because there is nothimg sure.
1372  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The danger of the cyptocurrencies on: February 15, 2017, 10:31:03 AM
beauty of crypto currencies is only of their privacy . if it would by the government then their is no option to use crypto currency . while we will use direct other online currency instead of these . because due to control under government of country there will be restrictions of saving and transfer .
I would agree into this thought.Cryptocurrency is not advance at fiat currency but just improved some features and added some that is what makes it special from fiat
Cryptocurrency come with its breaktrough feature as real money/physical money alternative.
We can not expect bitcoin can be the next USD or EURO as primary currency at least for now.
People should not have to worry about what bitcoin can do in the future, it is even have positive impact so far.
1373  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: February 15, 2017, 10:12:48 AM
I simply add all my winnings back to my gambling bankroll and move up in stakes as I hit certain bankroll levels. When I lose to where I drop below certain bankroll level(s), I just move back down in stakes. I have a certain ultimate bankroll goal that I wish to reach that any further winnings above it, I will withdraw. I haven't reached that goal yet. But I'm working my way up there.
But then what will you do when you lost the whole bankroll before reach your goal?
Will you start from zero and repeat the same way? And what will you do if the unlucky keep hitting you.
I doubt it is a good idea to keep adding the winning amount to the bankroll , there is a time for you to enjoy the profit.
1374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: February 15, 2017, 09:50:38 AM
There's a lot of people who keep smile even they lost a lot of money.
Why they can do that? Because they really gamble responsibly, they only lost money that they can afford to lose.
So no problem! The problem here is when people still cannot gamble responsibly, and keep playing even it was hot money that urgently needed in the near future.

Hmm i agree it make sense, if its super rich people than losing small sum of their money is small matter for them. Because they gambling just for fun not for earning easy money lol
Poor people can have the same situation too however.
If they can control themselves to not greedy want to earn money faster in very easy way (they think) such as gambling.
You have to stay on your limit, as those people who addicted is the one who gamble more than they have to gamble.
1375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone ever stop gambling? but then gamble again? on: February 15, 2017, 09:39:26 AM
Well i do some bets while in a while i dont see the real need or interest into putting my bitcoin at risk expecting to get a bit more, i do make sport gambling, but isnt something i really care, my last bet were 1000 doge i had won and it had changed my life at all, i do gamble with tiny ammounts, soo i cant regret if i loose or win.

And then due the idea of the main topic
I thought there were a moment when a gambler caller to break for a while not to stop because in my opinion the gambler will never stop to play what did by gambler is only waiting a right time to tune into gambling again Smiley
That is basically true , there is no ends for those people who gamble for profit.
They will keep comimg back trying to make money even for a little bit only.
Quite different with those people who gamble for having fun , they will gamble occasionally.
1376  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in casinos on: February 13, 2017, 07:29:05 PM
Well, now i have no experience of investing in casinos, but so far as i know it will be trust-able, becasue i don't see any bad thing about any gambling sites, and i am show all gambling sites are trust-able. So if you want to invest in any casino than should see the history about this casino, otherwise, i think it is a good idea. 

Why not try for yourself? It is not that bad to invest in casino's even the returns and profits are not that high but if you want to diversify the bitcoins you got. Investing in casino's is one of the best investment so far, just choose the casino's that are reputable and has good record from their early investors. Try it for yourself.
you should never to expect a high return when it comes to an investment.
the ROI will not attracting you but at least provide you a promising profit compared to do business by yourself.
the risk lower than have to gamble by yourself or do your own business, especially in casino investment where there is few case casino bankroll down to zero.

the risk of investing in a casino's bankroll is still pretty high because it is gambling. specially when it come to some of these dice sites. you can check out that famous topic for investments, you can clearly see the high risk of investing in some of these casinos.
in some cases the loss was pretty huge, as big as 20+% lost for the investors.
Yeaaa i know it , but the basic thing that makes casino owners always get profit is because of house edge.
Automatically makes the investor there get profit too.
So basically it was pretty interesting to invest in a casino because of the risk is worth taken.
Well, Investing in the bankroll is good because we always have the profit thanks to the house edge. However, the profit is not as much as you think and it is very small, to be honest. it will be more effective if I choose some other projects. Casino is just for fun. And if I ever had a big capital, I would run my own casino
there is no investment that offering you a huge profit in short term .
and i do aware about it too , but when you invest a lot then it is really worth in my opinion.
run your own casino means you are investing there too lol , there is no difference Cheesy .
1377  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: February 13, 2017, 07:03:25 PM
I tried the martingale strategy and some modifications of it. The bottom line is that the odds are against us and you will eventually lose. If you are lucky enough to get ahead, quit and take the profits.

The house edge will always caught us unaware if we become so greedy and never stop betting. It is always a good idea to keep a realistic and achievable daily profit and once you hit that goal, stop right away in order for you not be beaten by the house edge.
Yeaaa first of all you need to know your limit to make sure you are not break the house edge and back to lost.
Then do gamble occasionally not as regular gambler , in the long run there is a little chance for you to keep get a profit.
Although a game like dice have a fast result , you can always manage your bankroll as long as you are discipline.
play safe for martingale strategy actually it's a good strategy to play dice If you refrain from greedy you will not lose because martingale strategy do not earn a big profits in once roll
lol i don't think so , the martingale betting system could fail early.
for example when you got 15 times losing steaks and sucked the whole bankroll you have withing a minute.
i have experienced it lately in safedice , almost went broke early doing martingale and got that annoying streak lost.
1378  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: February 13, 2017, 06:35:59 PM
Well for me the smartest way to play gambling is to limit your self,
Set up a goal for your profit and your lose and just be calm whenever you lose.
and for me the smartest way is to not play gambling at all. if you are a smart and clever person and care about yourself and your money than just stay away from gambling. gambling is only for those who have a lot of money but don't know how and to where they spend their money.. gambling is not for earning.
think about this , if you not gamble at all then could it be called gambling in smart way?
if you think you are smart by did not gamble it is not a problem , just go away  Grin .
gamble only for once or twice a month to avoid addiction and that's what i call smart.
1379  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: February 13, 2017, 06:06:20 PM
Aside from house edge, most of the time, gambling is always in the losing side. Even in a sports betting, sometimes a team or a player also lose even if all the predictions are in their favor. In the long run, you lose not just money in gambling, time and opportunities too in real life are gone when we are busy playing. It's good to put less priority in gambling so you won't lose a lot.
Yeah that's why I already I stopped from gambling online. For me betting is not a good source of income, I would rather to spend my time in work and make tasks with hundred percent sure that I can earn money without doubts.
That's a good progress for realizing you cannot get good return in gambling, you do a task and you are paid for it, some great, right. Actually, if you can manage to control yourself, you can always come back and gamble. For me, it is very entertaining and good thing to relieve some stress, you are busy working so you need to relax sometimes and gambling can give us that.
of course you should not make this kind hobby as your income source .
it has been a public seccret that the casino / bookmaker get profit rather than the players itself.
people aware about that but unfortunately because of addiction they really don't care in the end.
1380  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: February 13, 2017, 05:34:53 PM
Depends on how big is my profit from my initial deposit, If my initial deposit is bigger than my profit then I'll withdraw my initial deposit vice versa, that is the best you can do if you want to secure your profit rather than continuing gambling risking both your profit and your initial deposit.
that's right it is better than have to gamble again the whole money you have.
but for me , to cash them out along with the initial deposit and start a new session later.
so just forget everything what you have earned/lost previously and enjoy every secs you get there.
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