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1461  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: January 24, 2017, 01:51:40 PM
I never gamble with my profit from gambling. To me that is untouchable money that I cash out on my card after every more or less good win. I allow myself to gamble only in the case that if prize money is very low.

Really? I rarely see people that they are not touching their profit. Because most of the gamblers are using their profit to gamble again and replace their old capital with that new capital. And when I win, I'm using my profit to keep on playing but I'm cutting some portion to save so that I can have something to spend if I want to.
I am also using the same method, But I will not withdraw all my winnings daily. If I made any big profit, i will split that amount and withdraw some money to use my personal work, and yes I will replace my old capital to new capital this will make me play freely. Because suppose if I lose that money I will take that easy it's my extra money. Yes, i will play with my profit.
i think this is about a principle in gambling right?
there is people who love to keep playing doen't matter if they will ended up losing .
but there also some people who really care about collecting profit and enjoy it for a while in real life , i prefer to use it in real life.
1462  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂ 🎁 The Fastest & Most Popular Dice 🎁 Biggest Traffic on: January 24, 2017, 01:23:33 PM
website is still in maintaince?
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Not yet updated current announcement about maintenance. I just came from a website for checking, and it seems that all goes with it should be.
Or are you mean for new games "Roulette" ? If yes, it is true that the website in maintenance.

Hello guys,

We are under DDOS attack. We don't know who is behind this attack. But if they read me, I prefer to see the website down lifetime than talking with them (don't even dream to get money) and if you are not DDOS us for the money. It is a good competition  Cheesy

Cheers,

Baryom, with the amount of traffic the site is getting this past few days, 'others' may really get envious to bitsler's success. If the site will be down forever then it's official. I'm quitting Dice.
Good Luck to you and looking forward to roll again once it is back.


ah no wonder if then some 'dirty competitor' doing something like that  Cheesy .
just make sure everything secure especially about funds stored there Wink .
by the way is the site have fully up now? because i feel still hard to get into the site , it keep loading.
1463  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: January 24, 2017, 01:14:03 PM
If the bitcoin has a stable price It will be still popular with many retailers accept bitcoin

Of course the retailers prefer the stable prices because they have to buy bitcoin using fiat most of the time and they would regret having to sell it at lower price if prices fall during the day.

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but Bitcoin price cannot stay stable for long.

The reason being bitcoin used as a trading commodity mostly and some pump and dump happening. The price makes bitcoin popular to buy and sell and the fluctuation are main point of attraction for the traders.
yeaaa the current volatile price is only having a lot of benefit for investor and trader.
future money purpose of bitcoin in doubt with this feature.
i personally that have small business in real life and accept bitcoin feel uncomfortable with this volatile price honestly.
1464  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: January 24, 2017, 01:07:34 PM
discipline is born from a behavior, from your daily activity.
you cannot become a discipline player when you have a bad behavior ( indiscipline in your daily life )
i agree with discipline you have gambling in smart way as it will avoid you from greedy , in the end you can get profit.

I've learned that in a hard way. I lost all my earnings. I had profit from playing smartly and found a strategy that looks promising. Probably, it's like stumbling in gold. When I tripled my bankroll, I thought, it won't hurt to get a dollar more or so. I lost everything. It's true that you will lose in the long run, no matter what your strategy is. Or maybe i'm just unlucky
everyone will surely call their losing everytime as just unlucky day or so.
but the truth is more than just a luck only few people can have that 'luck' to win and walk away with a lot of money .
why? a gambling site built for making profit , they have a house edge and it will always make you looks fool.
1465  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Martingale Basketball Betting System on: January 24, 2017, 12:54:04 PM
The biggest issue is that you are not getting the same odds across the board for your bets.

Martingale is based on the fact that you always have the same return if you win. If you bet with sportsbetting at 1.77 and the next at 1.82, there is already a difference. Suppose you lose the 1.82 bet and then win the 1.77 bet with double the amount, you have to start over from the first amount but your winnings are not one bet more than what you lost.
i have done this kind betting style applied in sports , the result good enough.
to get over the different odds in every event you can adjust the bet amount to make it feel like having 2x multiplier.
at least doing martingale on sportsbetting much better than have to do it on dice. good luck btw.

But if you are adjusting the bet size, you are not really doing martingale anymore.. The whole idea is that you keep doubling so you always win what you bet in the first place.

I agree that if you can find games with similar odds, the chances of going bust while doing martingale are much lower in sports as the outcome is kind of more predictable.
then i will say it is as a new version of martingale.
adjusting your bet amount to get profit doubled , not to make your bet amount doubled anymore.
yeaaa sportsbetting is the closest game to 'predictable' even though some people don't like sports and have still lot of doubt.
1466  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Daily use of bitcoin? on: January 24, 2017, 12:07:40 PM
using bitcoin in their daily lives is a necessity. today bitcoin has been widely used and accepted by various merchants.
in my country today almost everyone knows bitcoin and most of my friends are already using bitcoin.
glad to hear that and wish the growth running faster than what we expect.
the problem always on how you can explain properly to common people.
they will always ask you a specific definition about bitcoin , and mostly we always hard to find a match description for them, they just feel confusing and then lost interest.
1467  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling Investments on: January 24, 2017, 11:52:28 AM
Latest update - 5BTC investment is now worth 6.42511BTC



Cant believe that 24 weeks have been past now. That is like 6 months of investment already. I still can remember that previously we are so looking forward for that 1btc of profit for weeks.

And having close to 30% is very remarkable. Normal investment only yield like 5% per year and with the rise price of btc, the amount of profit is even close to 100% in fiat.
interesting stats , with this i believe a lot of people will reconsider to make investment in bitcoin casino.
no wonder why the yield was very high for an investment.
especially when you invest in bitcoin it gives you more profit for bitcoin volatile price.
1468  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Excuses on: January 24, 2017, 11:40:21 AM
Did you ever gamble with other's money to pay your own debts or otherwise to solve a certain problem through gambling?

I won't do such things to cover my debts, as we know that mostly players lose in gambling instead of makes more money.
Better to borrow other's money and pay my debts with it and no need to gamble which the money could gone for good.
The point is, gambling is not the right option to solve your debts problem.

Indeed.. Gambling to pay off debts is the worst idea you can have, like literally.

Paying of your debts is a thing you have to do, no matter what. You simply can't go around with worse than 50/50 odds to pay them off. You will end up in a worse place, as you now also have debts with the one you borrowed the money from.
get a loan to pay another loan , that was the horrible reason to gamble.
it was full of risk , really you can call it as the true gambling.
to gamble between you can cover your debt or have deeper debts and so on till you realize that everything you've done before is actually not worth and a mistkae.
1469  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Strategy and Lost in GAMBLE on: January 24, 2017, 11:24:45 AM
Maybe in my sports betting will do prior analysis about condition of the team that will compete, because it will help to bet on the right team that will increase the chances to win. I think just it my opinion a strategy that could help to win the bet, I've tried many strategies in a variety of games, but it does not affect my opinion. My biggest loss when playing blackjack, I spent around 0.1 BTC in that game.
yeaaa luckily you have realized about it early rather than a lot of people out there.
who still wondering and looking for some working strategy to make money in gambling.
i believe there is such strategy have big impact or determine you'll win or not , it is just a style nothing more.
Indeed, although in wins gambling relies heavily on luck, but in the sports betting strategy greatly affects wins and enhance the chances to get a win. So I think before doing sports betting analysis is needed, so the potential to win bigger.
oh yeaa a lot of people think an analysis can really have big impact to the outcome.
but works only on sportsbetting and the rest games cannot.
i personally agree with it , based on my experience i have lost records in a games such as bj , dice and slots where in sportsbetting mostly having profit.
1470  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: January 24, 2017, 11:11:28 AM
but i think the best way to quit gambling for good is when we are spend our money so we can not place a bets.

Thats probably the most fundamental thing in gambling, you need some funds to gamble and people cant do that when they have nothing on their possesion however even if it is 1 cent it is still considered as gambling and of course waiting till you lose everything from gambling is not something that might help people to quit for good

(Well I realized this probably right now)

At least for the people who have a lot of money that would be the best way. The thing is some people are poor and they are still gambling borrowing money for that. That's a real hell IMO, hell for them and hell for those who live with them. I think the first rule in gambling should be "Never borrow money to gamble".
the way of most poor people thinking about gambling is wrong.
they want a fast money making without having too much effort in it .
what makes they are poor is actually because they are not clever enough to treat gambling, when you gamble in right way you don't even have to quit.
1471  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: January 20, 2017, 10:07:28 AM
Yep knowing to stop is a key part of gambling, if you know when to stop you have already made 50% of the job in betting game, if you cant control your impulses you will get constantly fucked by the odds, so you must run with your profits as soon as possible. Oh and when it comes to trading is the same, you must set stop losses and know when you fucked up and run with the money.
smart way to gamble can you find if you can control yourself in the game. but, it is very difficult to do that, in fact very few people who can do that. many people who try it, but in the end they got stuck in a gambling game. if you want to try, try to use the number of bets a little, but do not let you be tempted to keep playing, because it is common.
I guess things that could make you play smart in gambling is when you can get profit in the end.
I mean not only luck determine you to win or not , but also your intelligence.
To have a self-awareness that you won't get a winning forever so you'll just gamble ocassionally.

Gambling in a smart way is possible if you are just betting with low numbers but I do not see any other smart thing about it..

imho to gamble small amount doesn't mean you are gambling in smart way .
i prefer to gamble high amount in a fair odds such as 1.9 or 2.x and just leaving after that no matter what is the result.
rather than do small bet amount continuously , you will have higher chance to become addicted with that way.
you be true do a small bet will only get small benefit and it was not the smart way but not everyone is as brave as you they just don't want to take big risks. I think all gamblers who bet big or small has a higher chance of become addicted
this is gambling , if you don't want to lose your money then go away.
it is simple principle in gambling , if you gamble with that principle you will not gamble with small amount.
it has same chance , just the matter of value , for me to know what exactly gambling it is and treat it properly is what people call as smart way.

I think, if they (gambler) are aware, they are more lose money than make money from gambling. If they remain conscious even gambling, defeat them as if not too concerned with the missing money. But when they win they will be very happy, although not winning so much. I guess that's why they continue to gamble. So, discipline is the smart way to gamble. All I write above shows a people who not discipline.
discipline is born from a behavior, from your daily activity.
you cannot become a discipline player when you have a bad behavior ( indiscipline in your daily life )
i agree with discipline you have gambling in smart way as it will avoid you from greedy , in the end you can get profit.
1472  Economy / Marketplace / Re: What kind of service/business would you create if you had funding and.... on: January 20, 2017, 09:57:08 AM
i will make a business related to food, drinks, clothing and property because all of this included unlimited human needs and must be fulfilled (economics lesson "primary requirement"). i also thinking to make my hobby into a business
That is nice but the problem is most people want privacy and by buying physical objects you are exposing yourself to lose some of your anonymity.
you don't have to go full anonymous all the time lol .
be yourself , show your creativity to the world and show your own face shouldn't be a problem.
it was what geeks do all the time in front of computer without having communication enough , it feels like inhuman sometimes. i have a plan to open an offline store that accept bitcoin however so goodluck.
The problem is some people end up mixing their private lives and their public lives and that is the way they get busted, if you use by mistake funds that were supposed to maintain your anonymity and then you link your name by mistake then everything you have bought can be linked back to you.
as long as you running a legitimate business why you should hiding behind the anonimity?
i don't think it wasn't a bad i dea to create an offline store that accept bitcoin.
the idea itself is not as unique as a lot of merchants out there , but at least we can make a contribution to bitcoin development.
1473  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your good intentions regarding Bitcoin in 2017? on: January 20, 2017, 09:48:18 AM
Bitcoin will continue to grow higher and higher than the past years. On account of this sure there will be lot of new users as well adopters. Trying to make use of this situation I've been gradually increasing my trade limits to earn the good profit through trading as it looks to be the right year.
yeaaa true , to anticipate there will be a lot of newcomer that can leading to demand increased.
we are as bitcoin enthusiast should have a plan to make a bigger investment.
i believe after the skyrocketed price few weeks ago , bitcoin become more popular out there , let's see in the next months.
1474  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: January 20, 2017, 09:37:36 AM
Spend some good time with my friends, and put some back to gamble for sure.


exactly , you should enjoy the winning while you can , i personally always do this however.
make a quality time no matter it is with your GF , family or friends , the purpose of you want the money is to get a pleasure right?
so just take it easy , don't get stressed just because gambling , having a real fun is important.
1475  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: you need to overcome your fear of losing money on: January 20, 2017, 09:26:48 AM
Losing is part of successfully trading. If you treat losing as part of trading then you are an experienced trader.
Thats true it make you successful person if you think like that learns from your mistake.If you want to make more experienced trader just learn and use your knowledge that you learned to predict prices.
yeaaa that is normal thing actually to have a feeling insecure do trading.
risk is something that should be familiar for every business maker including a trader.
people usually is too greedy , don't want to experiencing something bad first , they just want a good result only.
1476  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How many money did you spent in gambling in a day? on: January 20, 2017, 09:14:16 AM
I'm very curious about the money you spent on gambling because i want to know about gambling's earnings by gambler's here in a day to know how much you spend in gambling in 1 month to show me and the other gamblers that ease their spending in gambling. Cheesy  Huh Huh
I spend around 0.5 bitcoin every month? I think its been on 1 bitcoin every month plus the profit i gambled every time i tried to play it again on other gambling website it easy to chase the lose than winning it back Sad sad but true.
i have a fixed limit for gambling and that is 0.015 BTC. when ever i come to play gambling i mostly bring that amount with myself. because i know that it is very difficult to control my self in gambling once i start playing gambling and through this way i con only control myself in gambling.
Can you be more specific about the amount of Bitcoin you use in gambling? 0.015 for a week or a month? If you only use 0.015 Bitcoin, it is incredible. I have never seen such people who spend too less Bitcoin like you and it is certainly that you are good in gambling and controlling yourself. Do not be pessimistic about yourself. You are awesome
you may know there is financial stats difference between us .
it is indeed to play 0.015 weekly or even monthly for most people it was really tiny amount.
some people even call it as not worth , but if you take a consideration for those people who come from non rich country you may can understand.
Even in poor countries or 3rdworld countries 0.015 is really very small if you are playing gambling and you cant do too much on it even what kind of gambling game you would play but setting on this kind of amount for some people isn't bad at all and you are right people who are living on rich country would really see this amount as a dust but for some it would be enough already to those people who just wanna to try out.
indeed if you gamble with such low amount in weekly or monthly interval it was low.
but if you do it daily , i don't think for a poor country $10 to $15 for gambling is considered as low amount.
actually as long as you gambling stay on the limit everything will be just fine.
1477  Economy / Economics / Re: How many Bitcoin do you have saved? on: January 20, 2017, 09:03:29 AM
Since the start of this thread, the price has jumped up a lot!

Yea BTC can jump or fall any moment.
I have accommodate few BTC mostly by selling and buying alts.
I want save BTC to better future and have something for retirement in it.
I think that all fiat money sooner or later will land in toilet,
while BTC will grow problems sooner or later will be solved.

You are right, since this thread, bitcoin price too much jumped, even i save my bitcoin and now recently i have sold them, because of highest price of bitcoin, and it really give me superb profit. I never did any hardworking with my bitcoins, i did only hold them, and sold them in a high price, I also suggest don't save bitcoins for a long time, sell them when you think it give you double price.   

That's why savings in bitcoin better than any other currency or gold.
While fiat money facing inflation every year but bitcoin keep growing in value.
I've managed to save a little bit btc for future planning, I think BTC3-5 every year is good enough.
sometimes when you hold bitcoin large amount fee confused once the price hit the highest.
you will think to exchange it for a while take a benefit on high price .
to buy again later when the price dropped a little which make you feel like trading , so reinforce your plan to invest for long term then go save bitcoin as many as you can.
Almost all people are doing this the same buying bitcoin and wait for the price increase if they are lucky that the price hit even 20% its a large profit if you invest large number of bitcoin.. don't lose opportunity every time you can seen the price was increase just sell your bitcoin 25% so that if the price will continue to increase you can sell the rest.. just to save your profit that is why you need a large amount of bitcoin so that you can manage and earn profit..
but have you experienced when you buy low and sell high but then the price keep increasing?
just like when the bitcoin price in mid of 2016 around $450 but then in the end of year 2016 increased to $750.
i sell it all , but you know the price keep growing up to $1,100 ! that's why you have to reinforce your plan and hold bitcoin for long term.
1478  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: January 20, 2017, 08:50:51 AM
For me,  gambling should be considered as an addiction. Discpline and control to ourselves  is the best  shield  to play a game in which you can win or lose money .
an addiction that can easily turn to something like a sickness.
you may have heard about a lot of stories that tell you how dangerous gambling impact to your life.
you can even get crazy thinking about become rich through gambling right?
Agree. Gamblers can easily become addicted to gambling if they do not have an ability to control their temper and their greediness. In general, I have seen many people who lost lots of money in gambling and it is totally bad for them. However, if a person consider gambling as a type of entertaining, he will get dangerous impact on Bitcoin and he will obtain the joyful and the happiness in gambling
the problem is not on how you can control your self or not .
but more likely to on how people deal with to not bring the financial problem into the game.
i mean when you have a purpose in gambling to doubling your money to pay here and there , but then all you got just a losing, what would you do? they would just become more frustated and broke.
1479  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Martingale Basketball Betting System on: January 20, 2017, 08:26:55 AM
The biggest issue is that you are not getting the same odds across the board for your bets.

Martingale is based on the fact that you always have the same return if you win. If you bet with sportsbetting at 1.77 and the next at 1.82, there is already a difference. Suppose you lose the 1.82 bet and then win the 1.77 bet with double the amount, you have to start over from the first amount but your winnings are not one bet more than what you lost.
i have done this kind betting style applied in sports , the result good enough.
to get over the different odds in every event you can adjust the bet amount to make it feel like having 2x multiplier.
at least doing martingale on sportsbetting much better than have to do it on dice. good luck btw.
1480  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happen "if" someone have all of bitcoin? on: January 20, 2017, 08:17:17 AM
That's truly impossible. Is it possible to get hold of entire fiat into the hands of a single hand or a group of community. Same is with bitcoin, though it has got the calculated number of bitcoin to be generated within a targeted year. If someone is trying to hold or buy the entire bitcoin around the world too, its impossible.
yeaaa it is impossible, but at least someone or some group can have bitcoin the most .
currently the bitcoin supply available around 16 million and worth to 14.396.939.566 USD , someone can afford to acquire bitcoin with that much money?
i guess yeaa someone can do it (if it was stored in one basket) , but the reality it is not.
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