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1721  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: November 22, 2016, 02:00:45 PM
Leicester vs Club Bruges this encounter will be dominated by Leicester as they have great form into that league and still undefeated. Than Leicester -0.5 is good pick and it has high possibility there.

Leicester is so shit this season ...

I guess you refers to their performance on BPL, but here we are discussing about their performance on UCL which is different competition and they showed different performance on this competition. They are on 1st position now with 10points (3 wins and 1 draw), is this so shit? Of course no, it is impressive achievement on such competition even though they are on "easy" group but we should appreciate what they have done so far.
it was rare thing on what happened to leicester city.
they were so bad in local league but incredible play at european competition such as champions league.
i don't expect leicester have a big target in champions league , but the situation force him now to set the higher goal in this competition.
1722  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Soccer Transfer Market 2016/2017 ! on: November 22, 2016, 01:18:00 PM
Lewandowski to Real Madrid?  Shocked It would be great. We need him, he will be a perfect player for us. Imagine: Ronaldo, Bale, Lewandowski!

Then they will sell Morata again? They have more than enough stickers atm, I dont think they will sign a new stricker when they are out of the transfer ban. If it is happening in the future then Morata will ask to go. Morata is young talented player, Madrid should give him more time to play instead of signing new player.
yeaaa benzema and morata both pure stricker it is enough for real madrid to have them.
sometimes cristiano ronaldo can be placed on stricker too if needed so there's no reason for real madrid to get another forward player.
they need pepe and sergio ramos replacement , a defender.
1723  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: November 20, 2016, 01:47:31 PM
I think my worst mistake in gambling is the time when i was consumed with greed.  I remember I was winning that time, I already increased my bankroll of about 1000% after playing and strategically stopping for about 5 days.  Then on the 6th day, i don't know but it seems i lost my  focus and was consumed by greed when i failed to track the turns and i did not stop resulting of losing 75% of my current bankroll.  During that time i keep on insisting i have to win 1 more time but it did not happen LOL.
Yeah worst mistake is to be consume by greed on gambling since once you've been consume by it, you may bet most of you bank. And base on what you've said I think you have been consumed by addiction too.

It is absolutely true. indeed any greed will give a lack or very large losses. Everyone who presents a greed in each case only a small possibility of getting good results and they will definitely get a very big regret because their deeds are very greedy. If you want to play in the gambling should eliminate the thought of greedy and should be able to control yourself
Be greedy it is not a mistake , greedy is natural .
Everyone who gamble is always have a desire to win a lot , to win more and more.
You just need to control it , so the mistake here is to have no control.
1724  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 20, 2016, 01:30:07 PM
Chelsea won five in a row without conceding a goal, and against Middlesbrough they won their last six without conceding a goal

So I guess Chelsea wins to nil might be worth the be

I personally wants them to lose and suffer the same fate as last season however that thing might not happen. Im getting the thought that the winner of the league could either be manchester city or chelsea given that their performance is quite good nowadays and almost no other team stand on top of them in term of performance
Don't forget about liverpool , a lot of bookmaker consider liverpool as strong candidate to win BPL.
And also arsenal who always be major contender but always finished on fourth Sad.
However i wish chelsea get a draw and the top 5 will be more tight.
1725  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you want to become Rich you need to Put Higher bets on: November 20, 2016, 01:21:23 PM
Off course , if you want to make profit much faster , you have to put high bets only. But this concept don't applies to every gambling website . I will differenciate them below.

#1 - Directbet - Winning amount is depend on the Odds ( × 100 or anything ) .If you bet 0.01 on cricket team and the odds are  × 500 , then you will win like 5 bitcoins by wagering just 0.01btc only.

#2 - Satoshimines - Here,  you can apply that concept easily.  The bigger bet amount , the higher winning amount will come up from the mines you will open while playing.

#3 - Casino , slot machine,  Roulette game , etc. Here also same concept applies.

That means if you will continue keep winning while gambling with higher bets , it will take no time to let you become a rich person.

Note : But it cannot be happen really , if you want are not lucky enough.

But there is a reason those odds are so high and that is the chance of something happening with 100 odds is incredibly unlikely so much that you could make hundreds of those bets and not hit a single one.


Buddy, I am only talking about " bets " only no " ODDS " . Whatever you are saying , may be it's correct as per your experience.  But after all, you are doing the same thing which you do on other sites which is " Gambling ". Anything can happen. Who knows,  the team which had highest odds will win the match too. That's what I am trying to say.
But i guess we are here discussing about to put higher bet amount not higher odds , am i right?
To bet on that high odds is not a good idea to try if you wanna do it continuously.
But it is okay if you want to try occassionally, low odds did not guarantee win moreover high odds.

yes i don't think its a good idea to make a higher bet beside we can loss all of our money. but if we want to test how work is our luck, then you can do it but don't do it very often because i think you can not deal with it if you are only get loss in the games. so my suggestion is be careful when you want to put higher bet. don't case the rich, if you have a good luck then the rich will come to you  Grin
I guess really bad idea just to test your luck you have to bet high amount, you can do with small amount too.
Noone will do to put higher bet amount continuously to be come rich.
It is a bad way to reach your ambition to become rich .
1726  Other / Archival / Re: Which one is more risky? Skill-based gambling or trading? on: November 19, 2016, 06:20:55 AM
I often see that people prefer skill-based gambling such as poker or sportsbook because they think it's more profitable than trading.
But, people say that sports can be manipulated by mafia/casino for their own good.

So, which one is more risky? Skill-based gambling or trading? I think both of them have same risks because both of them could be manipulated, unexpected things could happen and many more.

It depends on your style of trading or gambling.  Looser and more aggressive gamblers have higher risk but tend to have bigger pay days than average.  But it also depends how good they are in playing that style and how disciplined they are during bad runs.  The same can also be said about trading.  So a good answer would be 'it depends'.
No i guess , it is obvious that gambling has more risk than trading .
No matter it is skill based , gambling is always give you 50:50 chance to win and lost the whole money.
While in trading you still have guaranteed to get your money back at least for 50% , 40% or so.
1727  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you want to become Rich you need to Put Higher bets on: November 19, 2016, 03:49:11 AM
Off course , if you want to make profit much faster , you have to put high bets only. But this concept don't applies to every gambling website . I will differenciate them below.

#1 - Directbet - Winning amount is depend on the Odds ( × 100 or anything ) .If you bet 0.01 on cricket team and the odds are  × 500 , then you will win like 5 bitcoins by wagering just 0.01btc only.

#2 - Satoshimines - Here,  you can apply that concept easily.  The bigger bet amount , the higher winning amount will come up from the mines you will open while playing.

#3 - Casino , slot machine,  Roulette game , etc. Here also same concept applies.

That means if you will continue keep winning while gambling with higher bets , it will take no time to let you become a rich person.

Note : But it cannot be happen really , if you want are not lucky enough.

But there is a reason those odds are so high and that is the chance of something happening with 100 odds is incredibly unlikely so much that you could make hundreds of those bets and not hit a single one.


Buddy, I am only talking about " bets " only no " ODDS " . Whatever you are saying , may be it's correct as per your experience.  But after all, you are doing the same thing which you do on other sites which is " Gambling ". Anything can happen. Who knows,  the team which had highest odds will win the match too. That's what I am trying to say.
But i guess we are here discussing about to put higher bet amount not higher odds , am i right?
To bet on that high odds is not a good idea to try if you wanna do it continuously.
But it is okay if you want to try occassionally, low odds did not guarantee win moreover high odds.
1728  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much does it cost to create a btc gambling site? on: November 19, 2016, 01:25:11 AM
How much does it cost to build and maintain a website like primedice (for example)?

Hosting,programming,design and advertising costs?

I have an idea about a brand new bitcoin gambling game which will be completely different than the dice sites,

but i don`t know from where to start.

I don`t know if this is the right place to ask,but can anyone answer?
I think 300BTC are enough here we go for details:
1. Hosting cost: about 50 bitcoins maybe it is too high cost but you must make sure the website is not down while there are many users who visit it.
2. Programming and design cost: 50 bitcoin you must be looking for people who can do programming and design with one.
3. Promotion cost: 100 bitcoin in my opinion the most much take out the gambling is for promotion.
We are here just make a random speculation , noone of the real gambling site owner speaking up here.
To make an explanation and clarification at least , so yeaaa this is just speculation and maybe an estimation.
But if you take a look here  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=818014.0 ,when moneypot get sold for 100bitcoin in an auction so i guess it would be the reliable estimation so far.
1729  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 19, 2016, 01:00:44 AM
Well, in a match Everton vs. Swansea, I will never hesitate to support Everton, because I know that this time everton really has grown. Well I believe the score that appears in this match will not be more than two goals, because I also know that swansea is a strong club, so I'll bet under 2.5 goals with the winner everton
Everton form is really bad , i would not surprised if the match finished draw or so.
Everyone would definitely to bet for everton to win as they have better squad and play at home too.
But this time my feeling tell me the match would finished draw so i would like to bet double chance bet for draw or away.
1730  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Skills vs Luck *poll* on: November 17, 2016, 06:15:34 AM
Both things  are  important when you do  trading  because skills  is also  important  in able to execute trade  because  if you dont have  any  knowledge and skills  about trading  your  move  would  be useless and also  luck  will just  supply a little bit  because   if youre  lucky  enough  to  open an order on a good entry  point  and you do exit on the right  time then  youre  lucky enough because  its a guarantee profits for you.
But a skilled trader, does not need to rely on his luck to enter and to exit trades at right times.
Just his skills will help him to do so. In other words, skills will maximize the chances of being lucky. Knowledge and skills are the keys for a successful trading even luck has some minor role along with those keys.
i think even a trader with thousands years experience and tons of skills still need some luck.
in my opinion both are interrelated and interdependent.
but yeaa i agree with your opinion overall as skills could maximize the chance to win and luck complete it all.
1731  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 17, 2016, 05:50:57 AM
The best way to stop is to lose a big a mount. Once you are exposed to big losses, you will think again before gambling stupid amounts of money, you will start gambling less and less, less often and for less money, to the point that you end up not gambling at all because you see how stupid it is to keep losing money. After a time, you will come back but you will have control over it, and will treat it as fun and nothing else.
Well, i can say that it does works. because i've been through it and i gamble a lot less now. i'm afraid to gamble big and i don't go after my losses anymore. Smiley
It is really very rare to see people are staying away from gambling and its problem. But you have done it congratulations. As you are doing, we need not to quit gambling completely but in order to avoid gambling problems we must gamble very rarely.
Gambling with the very less amount and going for it occasionally will guarantee lesser to no gambling problems.
Gamble occassionally only sure could prevent you to get addicted and get a lot of problems.
But for a gambler who have already addicted it is can be another problem to make it realised.
Everything back to your own personality, how you treat gambling to make it as a fine thing not causing any problem.

And honestly, that should be the way on how the gamblers should play. By treating it as for entertainment, they should gamble occasionally not regularly. The more you gamble, you are prone to being addicted and basically it can destroy your life, let's live a balance life.
actually to gamble regularly should not be a problem as long as you have a limit.
but it was a rare thing to see people have it , they just keep pushing the limit because a greedy.
you cannot avoid it , gambling always attractive with that way.
1732  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What would be your recommendations when trading crypto? on: November 17, 2016, 05:35:32 AM
Even though, I've been several years buying, selling and even holding Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies there is one thing that I need to master yet and that is the ability to trade effectively any crypto in order to maximize profits.

Since crypto is highly volatile (especially alt coins), there is a good chance to make decent profit via trading.

Any good recommendations or resources that you could recommend me in order to trade cryptocurrencies effectively? (books, or any other resource)

I know one key rule which is buy low, and sell high but most of the times I end up loosing more than what I have invested initially instead of maximizing profits.  Smiley
The only people that succeed in trading are skillful and professional trader.Professional trader learn a lot of skills for technical, sentiment, and fundamental analysis. Google this! For crypto trading I think technical analysis is not as important as the other two. In contrast, in classical ForEx the technical analysis is the most prominent activity.

It also pays to have the technical skills to actually understand crypto currencies. Do you actually know what a hash function does? While I can do such analysis for you in my coin reviews, you should learn that yourself in the long-term.
Aq
i am not totally agree with your opinion , a technical analysis is not really important for low value altcoin trading.
but it is important for a top cryptocurrency such as bitcoin, litecoin, dogecoin, ripple and ethereum.
why? it is because a top cryptocurrency have a quiet big impact to the real global economy, especially bitcoin.
1733  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: November 17, 2016, 05:20:12 AM
For me, the best source of bitcoin nowadays is trading. Because it is the style in the market by seeking more profits if you wanted a long term. Even you don't have money or enough money you can trade because trading is not necessary that you must have a lot of money to trade.
the question itself for me is pretty odd lol.
op mean maybe earning source?to get bitcoin , grow them right? trading always be the first choice as it is not so complicated even for a newbie.
but if you want to try something different such as to join bitcoin casino affiliate program , or bitcoin ads networking maybe.
1734  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: November 17, 2016, 05:10:38 AM
Gambling is just so addicting because its so fun to do and you can also fun, these two factors are making it so enjoying and nice.
I really think 80% percent of the addicts is addicted because of this.
Gambling is not all about fun and you can do is fun in gambling you need to work it out your money just don't lose all your money you need to enjoy on that thing because in gambling you have the choices if you are going to play more or just stop once you lose or win.

Yes, gambling is fun and should remain as just for entertainment and not to recover what you lost. For me gambling on NBA odds is fun, because I cheer more for my teams and observe them on a deeper level.
i believe everyone want to get have fun in gambling at first time.
but then as time goes by they feel something good won a big amount money easily and so fast with gambling.
then situation changed to chasing money with gambling , yeaaa that easy money make people addicted.
1735  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: November 17, 2016, 03:56:27 AM
I think , No. Because,  there are many stories in which many rich people get vanished ( poor ) with their gambling addiction. I will gamble but for fun only.  I will not make it my addiction. Better than this, I will plan to make more profit by doing any stable business .
A rich people will not go allin if they gambling , they know what they are doing.
So i think there only few case when a rich people become poor because lost a lot of money in gambling.
Gamble only amount that you can afford to lose is something important to noticed even you rich.
It's for sure they will not go all in because they are playing for fun and they want to enjoy their time in gambling. When you go all in you can only play like a little time and why would you do that if you are not aiming anymore of the money, you should be smart as a rich person.
it is not about be smart or not , but it is about being a realistic person or a risk taker.
most of rich people will just live with something realistic , as they have a chieved the goal.
unless they are still not satisfied and want more , then they might take another risk , i just don't think they want to take a bigger risk in gambling so it is a little bit risky when you are rich already and keep gambling .
1736  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the most profitable type of gambling? on: November 17, 2016, 03:42:02 AM
Yes poker is also the type of gambling that can be profitable, if you can play poker well I am sure you will get a large win. Perhaps in addition to poker in my opinion that could profitable gambling is sports betting. If the you can understand and examine the teams that competed at the right, you will get a profit, it's a fair bet in my opinion.
the most popular claimed as the best game that provide you a promising profit is poker and sportsbetting also.
both games is a skill based games that's why people say it is profitable rather than any other games.
but in the end gambling always make you negative somehow.
1737  Economy / Marketplace / Re: What kind of service/business would you create if you had funding and.... on: November 17, 2016, 02:40:46 AM
I think creating an exchanger online, or a trading platform could be profitable for the long run, i would create such programs if i have enough funds , but it need really good budget to start with

A casino is not a bad idea either  Grin
it was not a fresh idea, building a business such as a casino an exchange service etc it was fusty idea.
how about to build a department store/mall which there bitcoin only accepted as payment no fiat.
it could be a weapon to fight fiat Cheesy and make bitcoin become more popular.
1738  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: November 17, 2016, 02:28:00 AM
To play gambling in a smart way just remember do not bet all your money in one bet because if that bet lose then you will not have a chance to recover that loss. So bet wise and do not be greedy you should control yourself when to stop. Most people just keep betting even they are winning already and they will end up losing after the end of the day.
In simply word you need a bankroll management , not a yolo bet right?
Set your daily winning and losing limit if you are a regular gambler.
That is the smartest action you can do in gambling , but i dont think people agree with this opinion as a lot of people think that gambling itself is not a smart action.
The first thing you have to determine is why you are gambling, if you gamble for fun then you make sure you will enjoy the time you allotted in your gambling session, the longer you gamble the more you are entertain, however if it's for the money going all in or yolo is good if you are confident with your bets.
i guess the longer you gamble the more chance you get addicted and not having fun anymore.
gambling can make us entertained in short period only.
so the best thing you can do is to gamble occassionally only to avoid an addiction and another bad things after .
1739  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: November 17, 2016, 02:15:26 AM
Just want know how much the gamblers who use analysis when play gambling and what kinds of gambling game? And do you think it is needed or not making analysis on gambling game or it is depend on lucky. Thanks for share your opinions and experience.

There might be some casino games that is useless to analyse because the house edge will always be against you. To give an example, look at Baccarat. A quick google search will show you that the house has the winning odds of over 1% at all times making you a long term loser even if you get to "win" in some sessions. Another example would be Roulette where the house has a 2.7% edge.
Indeed people cannot use any analysis on a luck based games such as dice, roulette slots etc.
It will not provide you any changes to turn your bet result from lost to win.
Even in sportsbetting you use analysis to predict the match , always hard to earn profit in long run.
But most of the time we use to analyze games when it came to sports betting as we always check whether the teams are playing hard and the coaches are fit with the system that the teams are using but in the the end its always luck that bring us winnings.
i mean every games can be analyzed, but not all of them affected to the outcome.
you can analyze dice games, slots, roulette, baccarat but it is useless if yo want to change the chance to win.
in other hand sportsbetting is required analysis and it is has a big impact to your winning chance, people just cannot make it steady.
1740  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 17, 2016, 02:04:04 AM
They still have a young star arkadusz milik , he still in developing i believe he will be a predator suc as higuain.
Let's see him play for 2 or 3 season at napoli , they need more than just a striker.
Napoli defender looks awful this season , have conceded quiet a lot of goals so far.
Yeah, Milik is a very good striker by scoring 7 goals from just 9 appearances, and he is still 22 yo. But he is being on injury list since October and if I'm not mistaken, he can play again in February. Well thats really a very long time, and it surely could be a big problem for Napoli.
yeaaa i know it , he will be missed for three months at least after ligament injury he get from internationla match.
he has a lot of potential to become top striker , but i guess he is in wrong club to achieve it.
according to several sources it was serious injury and he must missed around 19 games Sad very unfortunate.
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