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1441  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Is Your Worst Moment in Gambling? on: January 30, 2017, 03:15:20 PM
Worst moment in gambling...no it might be better to call it my worst moment since I started using bitcoin, was when I lost 2 BTC while gambling.

Well I was sitting at somewhere around 2.1-2.3 and was raining a bunch of 0.01s randomly and some higher amounts to people I knew. I thought I was done with raining for that time, then a guy I knew for some time comes up and I drop him 0.03 or something. Going on, my balance dropped to below 2 BTC to some 1.9xx BTC, and being the perfectionist I am I decide "Meh, how hard can it be to make 0.1 from 1.9 BTC". That was when it went to shit, and I think anyone can guess what happened at that point. No I didn't get to 2 BTC if you're an optimist, I lost all of it.

Well I had taken out 0.2 BTC for buying some stuff on amazon(which I ended up not buying because of the rage from losing the damn BTC). And considering I did make that 2 BTC out of 0.08(which with one 200% depo bonus I ended up making 0.2 BTC and that was all happy and dandy until 2 BTC), I guess you can consider it a profit.... actually nah, you can live in your own world optimists, I consider that a 2 BTC loss , period.

#RepliesToGamblingDicsussionThreadSeriously  Roll Eyes
i can assume everyone with an optimitic mind to gamble always lost in the end.
why? because they only want to think about gambling sweet moment , without considering they have bigger chance to lost than to win.
an optimistic thought in gambling just make it worse, yeaaa prefer to think that you will lost the bet before play so you will feel have nothing to lose and of course control yourself to not spend it all.
1442  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin break $2000? because of Trump? on: January 27, 2017, 07:03:36 AM
Bitcoin has really started this year off wild!
I was reading that it might hit $2000 by end of year, because of Trump’s ‘spending binge’ and dollar rally.

What do you guys think?

i don't think that trump will involed his self with bitcoin first thing is trump already did about the price of us dollars world wide and still continue a good project but if bitcoin will be more that popular maybe trump will see what really bitcoin wait to the near future/
people keep making speculation even before trump officially became US president. a lot of people actually have predicted that the bitcoin price will go triple in 2017.
they say it when the price around $500 and bitcoin price have hit $1,100+ make it double done , next achievement triple and then quadruple $2,000.
especially when trump pick a pro-bitcoin congressman, speculation gone wild lately.
1443  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin can not replace fiat on: January 27, 2017, 06:52:13 AM
actually i think that bitcoins will replace fiat in like a few decades hopefully because in my opinion bitcoin is stronger than fiat
in what term bitcoin much stronger than fiat?
i can not see any reason (at least for now) fiat can be replaced by any other currency form .
people really hard to move forward , they cannot even think about the future as they are too busy , selfless.
1444  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Why do so many people hate Coinbase? on: January 27, 2017, 06:29:22 AM
So they are free or very low on fees? never had the pleasure working with them but seems like federal government is bullying them to take control over the clients information, lol I think the masters of our world are slowly realizing that they don't have any control regarding usage of bitcoin.
Things like this makes me to believe more in satoshi's vision.
yeaaa they want to rule the US bitcoin user through coinbase , unfortunately they failed.
then they just devastate coinbase rules without having rule its user to comply with the law that they have created.
so far the government seemslike tired and just let coinbase broken.
1445  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to know about next pump? on: January 27, 2017, 06:20:01 AM
I am keen to know how to find which coin is going to get pumped next and when.
Is it possible to know for sure?has anyone here predicted accurately about next pump?

It can be just a speculation when this is going to happen because If we know it then we would all invest in bitcoin and then wait for the pump time and sell the coins, when bitcoin price gets dumped or crash we have some feelings that it will because an exchange gets hacked or something in china will happen but when a pump is expected to happen this is enigmatic.
yeaaa nothing sure in trading , all just about speculation but of course based on the data.
some people claims that they can predict everything because there is a repeating pattern in any kind market.
but also there is some people that just follow their guts  Grin .
1446  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: January 27, 2017, 06:12:03 AM
If you gamble dont try to give up from gambling because you can earn a lot with free money on dice and poker freerolls in earn a lot in that.

this will not good if you are new person in gambling because you only spend your bitcoin for nothing and i hope you can thinking more to playing gambling so you can stay away from gambling before it is too late to quit.
lol positive words will not change anything , looks like he really passionate about it Cheesy.
people wil not stop playing easily once they get in , as this game is addictive.
a lot of efforts you should do that's why yeaaa don't you dare to try gambling it is like drugs!
1447  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: January 27, 2017, 05:58:27 AM
I had invested before in HYIP but I failed until a Facebook friend share me his strategy on how to make investment profitable. We should always take note to just invest you can afford to lose only, that is very important, Don't be so greedy. Always search the site information you are joining before make a deposit, monitor it if it has a good reviews, rating and paying...
Before I'm addicted to invest to hyip/ponzi site. I'm very angry of that day. Why? Because all of my money was loose . my friend told me also don't be greed when you investing and don't put all your bitcoin in one investment only.  But as of now I don't recommend to all people to invest of that kind of investment.
HYIP/ponzi for me was not considered as investment although it is clearly stated high yield INVESTMENT.
things how the payment system work there is pretty clear it was scam scheme.
i thought nowadays people have become smarter to not deal with such a scam service, simply do your own research before make investment.
1448  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone ever stop gambling? but then gamble again? on: January 27, 2017, 05:47:41 AM
yeah this week i am stop for not playing gambling and i am planning to gambling again in next week because i am too busy with my real life so i don't have much time to playing gambling. this is not about how much profit or loss that i get but its about enjoy the games and fun in my spare time so i can get relax while i am playing gambling.
lol while everyone want to have a busy days so they can forget about gambling.
but here you want to gamble where you have a busy days? keep stay away from gambling man.
nothing good you can get , even the entertainment nowadays there not worth , unless if you really want to do that occasionally.
1449  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: January 26, 2017, 12:52:47 PM
Of course gamblers will always continue on playing even they already won, they can't leave it easily. But for those who gamble for a living, I know they are hoping to win, striving to earn money is fastest way without knowing that there is the other side of it which is failure.

It's normal when you still continue gambling when you won. Because it means you have a money, and you need a money for play gambling. But to keep some profit in your wallet is really important, don't play too much, dont gamble too much, don't spend all of your money to gambling.

absolutely. you will have a great reason to gamble more because you keep on getting profit doing that thing. I think limiting the amount you gamble is the best to limit losses and manage your winnings. For me i always bought some stuffs for my gaming rig once i won huge amount and then keep on posting for signature campaign so that i will have a budget again for gambling that is my routine so that i will not lose any money from my pocket. i never deposit a penny from my pocket to bitcoin wallet.
He has a lot of advice by the way lol , doubt himself doing all of it.
What i believe is when people sit on a casino or logged in an online casino everything you have planned before, all gone.
Greedy takeover and you will just follow it till you lost everything, no profit and nothing.
1450  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: January 26, 2017, 12:39:40 PM
If the bitcoin has a stable price It will be still popular with many retailers accept bitcoin

Of course the retailers prefer the stable prices because they have to buy bitcoin using fiat most of the time and they would regret having to sell it at lower price if prices fall during the day.

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but Bitcoin price cannot stay stable for long.

The reason being bitcoin used as a trading commodity mostly and some pump and dump happening. The price makes bitcoin popular to buy and sell and the fluctuation are main point of attraction for the traders.
yeaaa the current volatile price is only having a lot of benefit for investor and trader.
future money purpose of bitcoin in doubt with this feature.
i personally that have small business in real life and accept bitcoin feel uncomfortable with this volatile price honestly.
Current situation is not conducive to the adoption of bitcoin in day-to-day life use.  Currencies like US Dollars, Euro, etc keep on changing their rates on day to day basis. However the difference is so low that normal trader or person does not notice it. It is noticeable only to someone who trades internationally(or forex). Here every fluctuation and every tremor in bitcoin price is felt equally by users across the world. Thus too much fluctuation is a hurdle for traders/small-business houses.
Yeaa really hard to accept the fact that a lot of merchants refuses to adopt bitcoin due this reason.
But a stable price will not be a good option too for those people who love to exploit it and make money.
A common people will surely prefer to choose a stable price so they can actively trade offline without fear losing value.
1451  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: January 26, 2017, 12:31:12 PM
discipline is born from a behavior, from your daily activity.
you cannot become a discipline player when you have a bad behavior ( indiscipline in your daily life )
i agree with discipline you have gambling in smart way as it will avoid you from greedy , in the end you can get profit.

I've learned that in a hard way. I lost all my earnings. I had profit from playing smartly and found a strategy that looks promising. Probably, it's like stumbling in gold. When I tripled my bankroll, I thought, it won't hurt to get a dollar more or so. I lost everything. It's true that you will lose in the long run, no matter what your strategy is. Or maybe i'm just unlucky
everyone will surely call their losing everytime as just unlucky day or so.
but the truth is more than just a luck only few people can have that 'luck' to win and walk away with a lot of money .
why? a gambling site built for making profit , they have a house edge and it will always make you looks fool.

Yeah both of you are correct in this. I like what you said about discipline and behavior as you got that on point. A person's attitude towards gambling can be inspired by how he behave towards other things. If a person is imaptient, most likely that person would be a very aggressive gambler that won't stop until he wins big or loses everything. Compared to a person who is disciplined enough to know his limits and to discontinue if needed
Discipline could be the key for everyone who want to gamble in smart way.
Stick to the plan , making a steady profit that's how smart people gambling .
Not to follow your greedy , you will never find your end of satisfaction.
1452  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: January 26, 2017, 12:01:58 PM

Well, that's not always the case. Sometimes even if you have techniques or whatever that we do to make losing slow down, if not prevented it's not enough, remember, when we are betting, we depend on luck and not just any beliefs to win.

There is no such thing as believing that you will win. If everyone keep losing and no one wins then how is it possible that people keep coming back to the site? There is a thin line between a smart and a lousy gambler, for me I dont keep on rampaging my money when I lose in fact I tend to find and gamble EV + bet
Not noone wins , but most people who gamble is always in losing.
It is like there is 10 player, a casino gives 1 player to win and actually the funds is taken from the rest of 9 player.
Because there is house edge , then they take percentage from there , that's why it called 'everyone lost'.
There's plenty of games that has no house edge, one of them are sports betting or those that we call as skilled based games. It is not only the house edge that made us lose in the long run but the lack of discipline in gambling, we always want it instant and that makes us greedy. If we think it is easy to win in gambling then that would only make us lose as we will not work hard to discover a working method.
Lack of discipline or something is a personal problem right?
So it's not the point , the point is when you as a player against the house edge will always give you bad result in the end
Why? Simply you need a luck to be the one who given a winning by the house everytime you play which it is hard.
1453  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Excuses on: January 26, 2017, 11:52:55 AM
get a loan to pay another loan , that was the horrible reason to gamble.
it was full of risk , really you can call it as the true gambling.
to gamble between you can cover your debt or have deeper debts and so on till you realize that everything you've done before is actually not worth and a mistkae.
To clear loan to make another loan this is not gambling, this type of gambling will spoil your life. This is life risking play don't try this method.

I never wanted to have loans; I hate it, it will just make you have more and more debts. We should not take gambling seriously because that is not a way to provide our daily needs. So we must use only our own extra money to play.
Well said the gambling is not a money making job, it's just a fun game. If you can afford your loss, you can play it. Otherwise, don't try this game it will spoil your life and also you are loved once life.
Lol i am not saying getting loan is a gamble , read carefully Cheesy .
I said , it was the worst reason if you gamble to cover your previous loan and so on .
It means you are gambling irresponsibly , using the money that you can even afford to lose it then, are we clear? Cheesy
You are right, and that is something that we must not do when gambling. There is always another day to gamble and just do it again once you start to have a good amount of budget to gamble, asking for loan is not recommended, it will only give you more stress due to the fear of losing your bet.
The point is to gamble only the amount you can afford if you lost it .
People insist to keep doing it , the result will be full of pain .
You lost everything you have and then also having a lot of debts to be paid , frequently this kind people ended frustated and suicide the quick answer.
1454  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin is the new era of currency? on: January 26, 2017, 11:28:40 AM
Since bitcoin is trending now world wide because you can easily earn this and it exchange in real cash. Is bitcoin the new value of currency in the internet? Is he the new money? Can we use it in buying foods and etc in the future?
According to me yes bitcoin is the new era of currency or we can say that bitcoin is the currency of new era. It is the intense need of the new era if we look at the features of bitcoin and also to its benefits to the world. With its prevailing benefits every person in the coming era will adopt bitcoin for their uses.

Even now several firms have started developing their own technology based upon the platform of bitcoin's backing technology. On this basis, sure there will be a big big adoption by the falling years and the next generation people were the users who gets everything in the digital form.
It will just useless when bitcoin itself worthless due a disaster causing bitcoin shut down for example.
As bitcoin required internet access so once it happened to bitcoin there is nothing called new era of currency.
The idea of digital money was very impressive , but the actual situation says different , people still don't wanto use bitcoin cause of various reasons.
1455  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITDICE CASINO - CONGRATULATIONS TO WONTON FOR WINNING 300BTC on: January 25, 2017, 11:29:24 PM
I want to congratulate wonton for making 300BTC profit!.

Go and try YOUR luck on the most honest casino online.

Regards,
Alex

Almost 300, but he is 2.4 BTC short Tongue But yes, he has been quite lucky in his rolls and has won quite a decent chunk.
Shit happens sometimes for investors this is of course a disaster.
Unbelieveable profit number i see there , make sure there is no security exploited just like hufflepuff in PD.
24 bitcoin average bet was too good to wasted , wondering how much bankroll he bring here   Roll Eyes
1456  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Mistakes in trading that lead to loss of money on: January 25, 2017, 11:05:41 PM
My mistakes is my emotion and sometimes panic selling because of afraid to loss my profits .nowadays many scam coins going back to 1sats that is what i am afraid for .i think i've bought a wrong altcoins on that situations.
Me too, thats my problem im always on panic when monitoring my coins, i thought its the right time to sell but its not. i guess im not really good enough to trade.
Same case man,still failed to come to a decision what is the right time to sell my coin.Infact i realize now trading is not so easy as i'm prefered earlier.There so much calculation, so much strategy,so much possibility.Seems like a beginner in trading.
I think it is okay if you do panic selling , it is a normal thing isn't it?
As long as you have backup fund, i mean you should not spend all the money in one transaction.
Spread it to two or three times transaction so when you realize you have wrong in buy/sell you can still recover it with this backup fund.
1457  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: January 25, 2017, 02:56:13 PM
but i think the best way to quit gambling for good is when we are spend our money so we can not place a bets.

Thats probably the most fundamental thing in gambling, you need some funds to gamble and people cant do that when they have nothing on their possesion however even if it is 1 cent it is still considered as gambling and of course waiting till you lose everything from gambling is not something that might help people to quit for good

(Well I realized this probably right now)

At least for the people who have a lot of money that would be the best way. The thing is some people are poor and they are still gambling borrowing money for that. That's a real hell IMO, hell for them and hell for those who live with them. I think the first rule in gambling should be "Never borrow money to gamble".
the way of most poor people thinking about gambling is wrong.
they want a fast money making without having too much effort in it .
what makes they are poor is actually because they are not clever enough to treat gambling, when you gamble in right way you don't even have to quit.

I agree. And the right way is when you are not expecting to have a profit from gambling. Treat it as recreation. You are not expecting profit from going to walk in a park right? Treat gamble that way too and you will never have problems with it.
Ideally people should gamble for entertainment , but everytime they got it wrong.
Just because they have won huge amount previously doesn't mean they would get same result in the future.
That was fatal mistake to have such as that mindset.
1458  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: January 25, 2017, 02:46:16 PM
No, I dont consider trading as gambling because in gambling you are always prone to losing your investments but compared to trading its more profitable than gambling because possibility of losing is low as long as you are updated of the market trend of bitcoin economy. Proper knowledge of trading is your tools in order to gain profit thats why I cant compare trading in gambling and for me its just for fun and stress reliever.
Yeaaa actually when you gambling you will always about win everything or lost the whole money.
The risk that you take here make the difference between both right?
When you risk more in gambling , but in trading you have better risk level with same potential profit.
1459  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Excuses on: January 25, 2017, 02:11:12 AM
get a loan to pay another loan , that was the horrible reason to gamble.
it was full of risk , really you can call it as the true gambling.
to gamble between you can cover your debt or have deeper debts and so on till you realize that everything you've done before is actually not worth and a mistkae.
To clear loan to make another loan this is not gambling, this type of gambling will spoil your life. This is life risking play don't try this method.

I never wanted to have loans; I hate it, it will just make you have more and more debts. We should not take gambling seriously because that is not a way to provide our daily needs. So we must use only our own extra money to play.
Well said the gambling is not a money making job, it's just a fun game. If you can afford your loss, you can play it. Otherwise, don't try this game it will spoil your life and also you are loved once life.
Lol i am not saying getting loan is a gamble , read carefully Cheesy .
I said , it was the worst reason if you gamble to cover your previous loan and so on .
It means you are gambling irresponsibly , using the money that you can even afford to lose it then, are we clear? Cheesy
1460  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: January 25, 2017, 01:49:25 AM

Well, that's not always the case. Sometimes even if you have techniques or whatever that we do to make losing slow down, if not prevented it's not enough, remember, when we are betting, we depend on luck and not just any beliefs to win.

There is no such thing as believing that you will win. If everyone keep losing and no one wins then how is it possible that people keep coming back to the site? There is a thin line between a smart and a lousy gambler, for me I dont keep on rampaging my money when I lose in fact I tend to find and gamble EV + bet
Not noone wins , but most people who gamble is always in losing.
It is like there is 10 player, a casino gives 1 player to win and actually the funds is taken from the rest of 9 player.
Because there is house edge , then they take percentage from there , that's why it called 'everyone lost'.
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