Moreover I don't understand why you are saying in your feed back the accusations are fake while it's not denied that the funds deposited by the plaintiff have been illegally seized by the casino. On a brand new forum account, OP claimed funds were frozen for having multiple accounts and winnings were mainly from slots. Stake is a casino, Sportsbetting or slots. It doesn't matter how a punter makes his money in a casino, as long as it's made through legit bets. It would be harder for OP to prove the legitimacy of their winnings if it was slots, but with sports-betting there are bet slips(which can be accessed publicly on stake) + OP has provided all the betslips as evidence long before stunna made their first reply(check imgur link). Making it very hard to deny the legitimacy of their winnings. You're responding to allegations that haven't been made. After being limited, OP used multiple accounts to get around the limit. That's the allegation. Stake said "we don't want your action over $X" and OP pretended to be multiple different people and then wagered more than the limit. I brought up the claim from OP about Slots as an example of how they are trying to mislead people. It's why initially I suspected they were involved with some sort of third party slot hack. But it turns out, I was misled, the issue involves sports bets, not slots. |
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Moreover I don't understand why you are saying in your feed back the accusations are fake while it's not denied that the funds deposited by the plaintiff have been illegally seized by the casino. On a brand new forum account, OP claimed funds were frozen for having multiple accounts and winnings were mainly from slots. Stunna, one of the most trusted in the crypto gambling world and the co founder of prime dice and stake: This individual placing bets obtained their profit from betting on sports not casino on 15+ accounts. They made these accounts to circumvent limits and restrictions put on previous accounts and have used their entire extended family's ID along with other potentially bought or borrowed ID's in an attempt to get around these limits.
Also, as a regular on Stake for years, that talks to many other regulars on Stake, I know for a fact that Stake very rarely freezes funds, and when they do it's not for having multiple accounts. If they started doing that, I would hear about it, and we'd have multiple accusations from credible members in no time. By the way for the sake of transparency, you are promoting another offshore casino, are you a member of this company (or any casino company)?
No and no. |
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OP is actively helping a scammer (attempt to) scam in a thread that's clearly a fake scam accusation. Before Stunna posted, I gave him the benefit of doubt, assuming he was just misguided. But afterwards, rather than changing course he doubled down.
I see these fake scam accusations in the gambling community as a serious problem. Too often players take advantage of this forum to extort casinos by rounding up a mob. This makes it easier for scam casinos to scam, and harder for players who were actually scammed find justice.
I've changed it to neutral because I don't see OP as "in on it", as well as some of the points made above/not wanting to create drama. I hope this doesn't cause OP to change his mind about leaving.
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He doesn't even understand the difference between multi-account and "account abuse". These concepts are the same
They won't freeze your funds simply for having multiple accounts. If you use multiple accounts to to wager more than the limit they put on you, they might. We don't suspended users for just having multi-accounts we suspend them for using multiple accounts for the sake of abuse.
See? Don't listen to this fanatic who has never deposited more than $100. It's his job to protect these free spins scammers while Stunna is resting. If you want people to believe you, you shouldn't make things up about other people. Even if you're angry. |
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@twitchseal be on topic. your comments are just off topic, following this case for 2-3 days and i still don't see how it can be possible to have the account banned just because of multiple accounts, i use stake for 5 years, and i have 4 accounts all minimum bronze... i am arround 120k$ on minus on all of them but, if i was to be on profit would I be banned?
He wasn't banned for simply having multiple accounts. He used multiple accounts to get around the sportsbook limits stake put on him. That means Stake said "hey, you can only bet $X per match from now on, that's it." and he went and opened a bunch of new accounts so he could wager more than $X. stake doesn't offer deposit bonus to be abused it's just a proof they want losers not winners
Yes, that's how running a casino works. The Casino tries to make money, not lose it. What you do now is selective scam I have 2 accounts at stake and since I loss I never had problem ? He wasn't banned for simply having multiple accounts. He used multiple accounts to get around the sportsbook limits stake put on him. Oh wait, a few weeks ago you we buying Stake accounts and now you're defending a random new user that used 15+ accounts to get around sports book limits...you're just playing dumb to muddy the waters, aren't you? Interested to buy old stake or primedice or wolf bet accounts before 2019 Must have some wagering on it no need to be vip Add me in telegram https://t.me/Lexisb1No need to be vip, so you weren't buying them for the monthly bonuses...why on earth would old Stake accounts have value to you? Hmmmm.....could it be they were going to be used to circumvent sports book limits? Clever idea, shitty execution. |
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Ukraine is a large strategic piece of land that creates a military buffer zone between the south-west and west. That is why Russia wants to exterminate 40+ million people and destroy and then rebuild the area. Erase Ukrainian culture and replace it with Russian culture.
That is the plan.
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Since there is no credible evidence for this even though they have already a ton of opportunities, it's pretty clearly a 'plan' that originates in your own fever-dream mind mostly. With help from psychological operations targeting your caliber of person of course. Actually I kind of doubt that even you really believe very much of the BS you've been spouting, but whether or not it's not of much consequence. Here's a summary of this report. I know, I know, it's not Russian propaganda or written by big time youtube conspiracy theorists so you will just dismiss it and attempt to appear more intelligent than anyone who relies on experts and journalists rather than youtube conspiratards. I'll post it anyway. Russia is responsible for inciting genocide and perpetrating atrocities that show an “intent to destroy” the Ukrainian people, a new legal analysis signed by more than 30 independent experts concluded.
The report, published Friday by the Washington-based New Lines Institute for Strategy and Policy and the Montreal-based Raoul Wallenberg Centre for Human Rights, also concludes that there is “serious risk of genocide in Ukraine,” and that states have a legal obligation to prevent genocide from occurring.
It cited denials from high-level Russian officials and state media commentators of the existence of a distinct Ukrainian identity, and dehumanizing claims that Ukrainians are Nazis and “are therefore deserving of punishment.” The report also points to Russian authorities’ rewarding soldiers suspected of mass killings in Ukraine, among other evidence.
“The purveyors of incitement propaganda are all highly influential political, religious and State-run media figures, including President Putin,” the report says. “There is mounting evidence that Russian soldiers have internalized and are responding to the State propaganda campaign by echoing its content while committing atrocities.”
Genocide, often seen as the ultimate crime, has a precise legal definition: “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group.”
The joint report Friday included input from about three dozen experts on genocide and international law, including several former ambassadors and others who were involved in the creation and proceedings of international criminal tribunals.
Their analysis pointed to a genocidal pattern of Russian forces’ targeting of Ukrainian civilians, including evidence of mass executions and torture of civilians in areas that were occupied by Russian forces, such as the Kyiv suburb of Bucha, as well as deliberate attacks on shelters, evacuation routes and humanitarian corridors; sieges of Ukrainian cities; and indiscriminate bombing of residential areas. The report also cited sexual violence and reports of the forcible deportation of Ukrainians to Russia. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/27/genocide-ukraine-russia-analysis/ |
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Ukraine gets the ball back... RUSSIAN OFFENSIVE CAMPAIGN ASSESSMENT, JUNE 5
Ukrainian forces continued to conduct limited and localized but successful counterattacks against Russian positions throughout Ukraine on June 5, including retaking large areas of Severodonetsk—the city in Luhansk Oblast the Kremlin has concentrated the majority of its forces on capturing. A Russian Telegram channel claimed that Ukrainian troops launched a counterattack north of Kharkiv City, indicating that Ukrainian forces continue to pressure Russian defensive lines near the Russian border.[1] Ukrainian forces are likely seeking to leverage the continued Russian focus on Severodonetsk to conduct counterattacks on other axes of advance. Even as Russian forces continue to pour equipment and troops into the Severodonetsk-Lysychansk area, Ukrainian forces have conducted a successful counterattack in Severodonetsk in the last 48 hours and pushed Russian troops back to the eastern outskirts of the city and out of southern settlements.[2] Ukrainian counteroffensive pressure will likely continue to draw the attention of Russian forces to Luhansk Oblast and therefore leave vulnerabilities in Russian defensive efforts in Kharkiv Oblast and along the Southern Axis. The ability of Ukrainian forces to successfully counterattack in Severodonetsk, the Kremlin’s current priority area of operations, further indicates the declining combat power of Russian forces in Ukraine. https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-5 |
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I advice the OP to open a complain against Stake at Casino Guru.
Would you advise they claim their profit was from slots or betting sports on 15+ accounts to circumvent limits? |
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Very happy to see your funds were released OP. Honestly, I'm shocked.
Stay strong and don't make a single bet. Log in, make daily withdraw, log out.
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I imagine what happened to their "there has to be something more to this than just multiple accounts" stance  I was 100% correct. We don't suspended users for just having multi-accounts we suspend them for using multiple accounts for the sake of abuse.
If your girlfriend wants to demonstrate he's been telling the truth, first thing he should do is disable ghost mode and unhide statistics.  |
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What I still fail to understand is, how can someone make any kind of profit by creating multiple accounts?
Were they farming referral bonus? But given how there's almost a 10%~15% house edge on sports betting, it's impossible to farm a referral bonus. Maths won't add up.
Different players have different limits on how much they can wager. If they think you've found an edge somewhere, they lower your limits for those types of matches. If they think you're a whale, you get higher limits. One way to get around the lower limits is just make a bunch of new accounts. if you get caught you can always try to gain sympathy by posting on bitcointalk to try and extort Stake while pretending to be a girl from a country that just got invaded by Russia. |
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Before you start screaming about US being the liars, remember...Russia did annex Crimea.
After a referendum by the people of Crimea which made it crystal clear that almost none of them had any interest in being terrorized by Nazi filth installed in Kiev by American neo-conservatives. The American rebel that went so hard anti establishment he ended up pro Putin establishment. |
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Maybe because I feel sympathy for OP since she's a woman from Ukraine
In case you're naïve enough to just take their word, OP is an unknown person using a forum account that was created 3 days ago with the intention of convincing the community they are a victim. Don't assume anything more or you'll end up with a broken heart in no time. And even if you have verified their gender and country, scammers come in all shapes, sizes, genders and nationalities. This is the internet. |
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If they're asking for more and more kyc documents, ........
You are again not in touch with the thread. Please stop making replies. It's really not helping anyone. They asked for more KYC in one email, almost 9 days back. OP even got a reply via Email on 30th May(5 days after submitting required KYC). PLEASE CHECK MY SUMMARY TO UNDERSTAND THE TIMELINE. Please go through the screenshots again. I won't be discussing the other part of your reply since it's off topic. You are free to create a new topic, I will reply reply there. If you believe 1xbit and 1xbet are the same companies, you are free to pursue it on some other thread. I've seen them go silent for weeks while waiting for various investigations to be concluded while giving up very little info in the mean time. What I haven't seen is any case where a player had their funds frozen simply because they had multiple accounts. It's weird how belligerent you're acting in defense of this unknown player, giving them the benefit of doubt with zero reputation making a claim about one of the most established sites in crypto (if you go back to the beginnings of primedice). Were you offered any sort of compensation for successfully helping OP get paid? Regardless, I think you need to give Stunna some time to respond before making any conclusions. |
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Out of all the previous allegations on this forum against casinos you're familiar with, how often did you believe that the player was sharing the whole story and not intentionally leaving out or making up details in attempt to make themselves look like more of a victim than they really are...in order to pressure the casino to pay them money they aren't actually entitled to.
Like I said, Stake won't just freeze your funds because you have multiple accounts. Don't be naive, there is more to this story,
If there was more to the story then why didn't Stake declare so in the communication? Why did it become a problem only WHEN OP started to withdraw a substantial amount , which is coincidentally(?) equal to their profit. Why did Stake ask for additional verification if it was for nothing? I have raised these questions in my conclusion, so please refrain from making any additional replies which amount to nothing except for diluting the seriousness of OP's claim. You have have already made up your decision, but it's based on a fallacy and biased reasoning. And no, 1xbit is a small scam, they had an active sig campaign on this forum until last week. They aren't the same. Bit and bet are different words too. They haven't finished their investigation yet. If they're asking for more and more kyc documents, it means they're investigating something and they think he's someone that's cheated somehow. Probably someone they've caught multiple times. Eventually he'll get an explanation. hopefully Stunna shares what he can in this thread. My money is still on some sort of third party slot exploit. I've been playing there pretty much since they launched, and prime dice before that, and I'm telling you, it's rare anyone get's their funds frozen. Even when they ban accounts, they just put you in withdraw only mode. You get caught living in a restricted country? Still get paid. Using a bunch of accounts for promos? Still get paid. If funds are frozen, it means they think you basically robbed them somehow. And you gotta remember, someone that figures out how to rob them, they aren't just going to stop because they got caught. THey're going to make another account and try again. And when they do get caught, this forum gives them another shot at getting paid anyway - all they have to do is make the damage to stakes rep worth more than the amount they're trying to collect. And no, 1xbit is a small scam, they had an active sig campaign on this forum until last week.
They aren't the same. Bit and bet are different words too. I could go find the posts with all the evidence, including court documents, linking 1xbit and 1xbet to the same Russian company, 1xCorp, despite the 1xbit rep insisting they were completely separate, but then you wouldn't learn how to figure it out for yourself. |
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There's no chance Stake would seize players money simply because they have more than one account. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of stake regulars have more than one account. There's more to the story.
Like I said, check previous allegations on this forum. Stake replies with a very descriptive reason when they ban someone. This time it was clause 11, personal use - multiple accounts. They mentioned it explicitly not once, but twice AFTER suspending OP's account. Please don't act it as if those screenshots don't even exist. Out of all the previous allegations on this forum against casinos you're familiar with, how often did you believe that the player was sharing the whole story and not intentionally leaving out or making up details in attempt to make themselves look like more of a victim than they really are...in order to pressure the casino to pay them money they aren't actually entitled to. Like I said, Stake won't just freeze your funds because you have multiple accounts. Don't be naive, there is more to this story, Also, 1xbit and 1xbet are the same company. |
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This post reminds me of the guy that figured out some hack on gameart/isoftbet slots a while ago. mainly due to winnings in the slot machine What were your biggest wins, and on which games? According to Stake OP had multiple accounts. Check their Email response and my summary about it. It isn't due to match fixing or rigging. From what I have seen from past cases. Stake is usually descriptive with such cases and leave nothing for interpretation(I checked previous allegations upon stake on this forum). This one stands out as a genuine case and seems very 1xBet'esque. There's no chance Stake would seize players money simply because they have more than one account. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of stake regulars have more than one account. There's more to the story. That video is just describing casinos. They exist to make a profit, pretty much all of them. That doesn't make all of them scam casinos like 1xbit, which, in the long run I would argue could be much more successful if scamming players wasn't part of their business model. |
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Hello everyone, I'm sorry if I write with errors, I do the translation through a translator because English is not my native language. I registered on this site about 2 weeks ago to bet on Rolland Garros, baseball and basketball. Passed 2 levels of verification on the site. Since May 21, she has made deposits of more than $100,000. Here are some of my additions: 1. https://etherscan.io/tx/0xc63728abc2e4e67654a181cc620fe1f9506b25b8365e928b04a461011c8ec7b52. https://etherscan.io/tx/0x1314e03025d3b9046b4623b276baf5dd2f8b42fc0a857a77a329e3bd556925243. https://etherscan.io/tx/0x944ebe77e3a5310edfdbcd7017ffdfda6cb581f03fe7c6f93bba98d937eeab9cI also played casinos and slot machines at a rate of $20-100 per spin. I made withdrawals for about a total of about 80 thousand dollars, mainly due to winnings in the slot machine. I was also assigned the status of VIP platinum 3. After that, they made me the maximum bet on sports top events is very small and I wanted to withdraw my remaining 40 thousand dollars, but I was not allowed to do this. I contacted the chat and they told me that I need to write to them by mail, so I did. I waited for an answer by mail for exactly 5 days and they told me that I needed to send a selfie with a sheet of today's date and with a passport in my hand. I sent them everything they need. After waiting 3 more days, I received the following response: Hello, You have been banned on all of your accounts as you have been found guilty of breaching our terms of service (creating multiple accounts) as stated under item number 11. Prohibited Uses - Personal Use. Please see https://stake.com/policies/terms for further reference. Regards, Stake I have no idea what multi-accounts they are talking about, and why was it necessary to ask me for my selfie if they are not going to pay anyway? My account is currently in the "withdrawal stage". But any conclusions are prohibited. I wrote to them in the chat, they also answered me that I need to write to them by mail. But the mail has been ignoring me for the 4th day. Please tell me who has come across this site and such an attitude towards customers? where should i file a complaint against them? I tried to write to Curacao, and I'm waiting for a response from them. I am also attaching some of my sports bets in case they suddenly want to accuse me of fictitious matches, as well as other participants in this forum. All bets were on top events. 1. https://stake.com/sports/home?iid=sport%3A33689466&modal=bet2. https://stake.com/sports/home?iid=sport%3A33712166&modal=bet3. https://stake.com/sports/home?iid=sport%3A33709748&modal=bet4. https://stake.com/sports/home?iid=sport%3A33652169&modal=bet5. https://stake.com/sports/home?iid=sport%3A33713208&modal=bet6. https://stake.com/sports/home?iid=sport%3A33708570&modal=bet7. https://stake.com/sports/home?iid=sport%3A33802000&modal=betThis post reminds me of the guy that figured out some hack on gameart/isoftbet slots a while ago. mainly due to winnings in the slot machine What were your biggest wins, and on which games? |
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Casino guru close the case and lower their score to 5.2 as questionable reputation.
They closed the complaint as unresolved under uncertain case and passive regulator.
Shame on Casino Guru. There's nothing questionable about the way ltc casino handled this situation. They scammed you, and now with a garbage reputation they have even less incentive to pay the next big winner. They should be telling players not to give ltccasino any business. |
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