According to NYTimes it's more than that.

It was only white people that gained anything on July 4, 1776.  If you were black and living in America on that day, you were never given any sort of independence or freedom from anything.  You couldn't gather without a white person present, your word was inadmissible in court, you weren't allowed to learn to read or write, you weren't allowed to get married, you weren't allowed to own a gun or property, you couldn't leave your masters property without permission.  You were a slave until you died.  Maybe your children or grand children lived to be free, 89 years later on Juneteenth.  

Isn't that fucked up?


Most slaves became free when men showed up with guns and forced the slave owner to set their slaves free.  That obviously took time, years in some cases.  The decision was made in 1863, But Juneteenth, 1865 was when it started to happen in the South.

Pretty fucked up path we seem to be going down. 

Clarence "MAGA" Thomas is all but begging to be given the chance to abolish more rights like same sex marriage, same sex sex, and the right to contraception in his concurring opinion.

Everyone else gets the Fourth of July...

Ok, but next time google it yourself please.

Federal Judge rules subpoena of John Eastman documents valid:

“Congress has previously conducted similar investigations into attacks on our country, such as those of September 11, 2001, and the War of 1812.  In these circumstances, it is reasonable that investigations might reveal evidence of criminal acts or other wrongdoing. … Accordingly, the Select Committee’s subpoena is within its legitimate legislative authority.”

“The public interest here is weighty and urgent. Congress seeks to understand the causes of a grave attack on our nation’s democracy and a near-successful attempt to subvert the will of the voters.”

“Dr. Eastman’s actions clearly fall within the bounds of an investigation into ‘the influencing factors that fomented such an attack on American representative democracy,’”

https://www.cacd.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Dkt%20195%2C%20Order%20RE%20In%20camera%20review%20of%20Jan.%204-7%2C%202021%20documents.pdf


Federal Judge (appointed by Trump) dismisses RNC lawsuit against Pelosi to block J6 subpoenas:

He dismissed most of the RNCs arguments, including the one you made, that there is no legislative purpose:
“The subpoena’s valid legislative purpose is apparent enough to sustain it against this challenge,”

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.241102/gov.uscourts.dcd.241102.33.0.pdf




SCOTUS denies Trumps attempt to withhold documents subpoenaed by J6 committee using 'executive privilege':


https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21182369-order-21a272

Have you guys considered that the reason they keep signing these deals is because theyve had some success with similar ones in the past?

Meaning, they could be spending money to make money and not related to rake back.

Yeah.  And Biden isn't really president.  He's on a movie set that looks like the White House.  Trump is the real president.  That's why there such a military presence on Bidens inauguration day. And Pelosi was arrested, along with the pope.  And Hillary was running a pedo sex ring out of a pizza shop.  And all the dems will be dead before the next election because they got the covid vaccine.  So you have nothing to worry about.

Except for all the federal judges and supreme court that have already ruled on the legitimacy of the committee and their subpoenas.  The committee is legitimate.  The subpoenas were lawful. 


The committee is legitimate.  The subpoenas are lawful.  Hopefully there will be laws passed because of it to prevent future sitting presidents that just lost an election from doing what Trump did - and is still doing.

If you're arguing that Congress shouldn't be able to conduct investigations, that's fine.  But, I doubt you had issues with the 911 investigation, or Benghazi, or Watergate  I think you really just don't like Democrats and only consume the Trumpiest media content.

Actually there's a lot of direct evidence.

And the issue isn't really the destroyed property or injuries, it's the attempt by a sitting president to remain in power after being voted out of office. 

Most people that fell for the big lie are just more of Trumps victims.

Unless it's a civil war, isn't there always going to be one side made up of entirely foreign fighters?  Does the geneva convention really exclude prisoners of war from human rights depending on what country their passport is from?  That doesn't make sense to me. 

Getting back on topic:

Leader of Proud Boys and Four Other Members Indicted in Federal Court For Seditious Conspiracy and Other Offenses Related to U.S. Capitol Breach

A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned a superseding indictment today charging five members of the Proud Boys, including the group’s former national chairman, with seditious conspiracy and other charges for their actions before and during the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. Their actions disrupted a joint session of the U.S. Congress convened to ascertain and count the electoral votes related to the presidential election.

The defendants include Henry “Enrique” Tarrio, 38, of Miami, Florida, the former national chairman of the Proud Boys; Ethan Nordean, 31, of Auburn, Washington; Joseph Biggs, 38, of Ormond Beach, Florida; Zachary Rehl, 37, of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; and Dominic Pezzola, 44, of Rochester, New York. All previously were indicted and remain detained. They pleaded not guilty to charges contained in earlier indictments.

The superseding indictment adds two charges to the earlier indictment: one count of seditious conspiracy and one count of conspiracy to prevent an officer from discharging any duties. All defendants now face a total of nine charges and Pezzola faces an additional robbery charge. The defendants are scheduled to appear for a hearing on June 9, 2022, in the District of Columbia

According to court documents, the Proud Boys describe themselves as members of a “pro-Western fraternal organization for men who refuse to apologize for creating the modern world, aka Western Chauvinists.” Through at least Jan. 6, 2021, Tarrio was the national chairman of the organization. In mid-December of 2020, Tarrio created a special chapter of the Proud Boys known as the “Ministry of Self Defense.” As alleged in the indictment, from in or around December 2020, Tarrio and his co-defendants, all of whom were leaders or members of the Ministry of Self Defense, conspired to prevent, hinder and delay the certification of the Electoral College vote, and to oppose by force the authority of the government of the United States. On Jan. 6, 2021, the defendants directed, mobilized and led members of the crowd onto the Capitol grounds and into the Capitol, leading to dismantling of metal barricades, destruction of property, breaching of the Capitol building, and assaults on law enforcement. During and after the attack, Tarrio and his co-defendants claimed credit for what had happened on social media and in an encrypted chat room.

A sixth defendant, who was earlier charged with the group, pleaded guilty on April 8, 2022. Charles Donohoe, 34, of Kernersville, North Carolina, pleaded guilty to conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers.

This case is being prosecuted by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia, the Department of Justice National Security Division’s Counterterrorism Section and the Department of Justice Criminal Division’s Organized Crime and Gang Section.

The case is being investigated by the FBI’s Washington Field Office. The charges in the investigation are the result of significant cooperation between agents and staff across numerous FBI Field Offices and law enforcement agencies.

In the 17 months since Jan. 6, 2021, more than 800 individuals have been arrested in nearly all 50 states for crimes related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol, including over 250 individuals charged with assaulting or impeding law enforcement. The investigation remains ongoing. Anyone with tips can call 1-800-CALL-FBI (800-225-5324) or visit tips.fbi.gov.

An indictment is merely an allegation, and all defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/leader-proud-boys-and-four-other-members-indicted-federal-court-seditious-conspiracy-and

Is this social media rumor/russian propaganda what you're talking about?  Where Ukraine told the UK that it did not intend to follow the GC anymore?




Russian media and social media users are claiming that Ukraine has refused to comply with the Geneva Convention on the Treatment of Prisoners of War. Citing Colonel-General Mikhail Mizintsev, the head of the Russian National Defense Control Center, RIA Novosti claims that on April 1 Ukraine allegedly notified the UK that it had no intention of adhering to the Geneva convention when it comes to treatment of Russian prisoners of war.

https://www.stopfake.org/en/fake-ukraine-revokes-the-geneva-convention/

Pretty hypocritical considering the Nazi Wagner group, which isn't part of the official Russian military, has been deployed to fight in Ukraine.

If they're far anything, they aren't main stream - by definition.

So they've been living in Ukraine for years, enlisted with Ukrainian military, but because they're British citizens they are sentenced to death instead being treated as prisoners of war like the rest?

Another bullshit denial.  He didn't say you were betting live.  You figured out a way to get enough of a jump on stakes feed to profitably cash out tennis bets.  Then when you got limited you made more accounts to bet more money.  Then when those got limited, you made even more accounts, and then you made more...etc...and eventually stake said that's enough.

It's not shady to limit players, and even though Pinnacle has a "winners welcome policy", they do, in fact, change limits on a player to player basis - especially for minor events.  As far as lines and limits though, Pinnacle is definitely the best.


The authorities of those countries don't run any sports leagues so I don't really get where you're going with that.  


They do have a UK license, which is one of the the more reputable in the world.  It's only for stake.co.uk , but if they were to start blatantly scamming players they would no doubt lose that license.  And when you say "then this happens", you're you mean then you make 15+ accounts to circumvent limits.  So yeah.  Same thing would happen on a regulated book. 

Ok I'm going to quit contributing to derailing this thread.

If you're running a sportsbook there are two paths you can go down:

Offer lines that aren't competitive with other books, and only on main stream sports/leagues, but never worry protecting your edge against sharps/insiders.  That means you take any bet from anyone and everyone has more or less the same limits. 

or

Compete to offer the best lines, either ban or limit those who you suspect might have an edge, and increase limits for players you're confident are recreational players.


If you offer competitive lines and don't limit sharp bettors, you're going to go bankrupt.  In the end, for a bet to be valid, both sides have to agree on the terms.  When a player is limited, and then bets more than that limit using another account, that's a bet that the book did not agree to, and the player knows that when they try to make it.  It's as simple as that.




Yeah.  And it was really messed up.  They can make it whatever they want, but doing it without any sort of warning or even notification when it happens was really disappointing to see.  I immediately complained about it when it happened. 

You're responding to allegations that haven't been made. 

After being limited, OP used multiple accounts to get around the limit.  That's the allegation.  Stake said "we don't want your action over $X" and OP pretended to be multiple different people and then wagered more than the limit.   

I brought up the claim from OP about Slots as an example of how they are trying to mislead people.  It's why initially I suspected they were involved with some sort of third party slot hack.  But it turns out, I was misled, the issue involves sports bets, not slots.