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1481  Economy / Economics / Re: "European Central Bank: Still Too early for Blockchain Technology" on: April 15, 2017, 08:51:33 PM
The European Union's central bank today once again shot down the idea that it might use distributed ledger tech as part of its market infrastructure in the near future.

Published alongside the latest annual report from the European Central Bank, released on  tuesday, was a feature on the tech. While largely written in broad strokes, the paper reiterates a position expressed in the past by ECB officials – namely, that the central bank isn't likely to tap distributed ledgers in the near future.

Do you think eurozone central banking should embrace distributed ledger technology?
It is not question whether they should or shouldn't  - they simply cannot do it at all. How exactly would that work?
Blockchain which is not backed by significant number of hashing power is nothing more than glorified name for  standard database.
Do you think that few government servers would be enough to provide serious level of security for this tech?
Because I can't imagine that central bank would share their database with citizens or allow them participate in this project.

You're talking about bitcoin blockchain not the blockchain technology.
They will not use a blockchain that requires people to hash, they will use an internal blockchain not a public one.

There will be no hashing the way we know it, there will be no reward block.

They just aim at replacing their internal databases with this. It will not affect the the way they deal with clients.

This is really similar to what I wrote few weeks before, that it's possible that the clients won't notice that anything has changed or not behind the scenes. Banks only needs to change the 'software' that runs in the background, people will use the same UIs. If banks start to use an international blockchain system, clearing the payments for themselves (not for the clients'), the clients will only notify anything if the process times becomes shorter. If the process times won't be shorter, blockchain technology could be still interesting for the banks if they can cut down some of the costs with this kind of new system.
One thing could be also interesting to banks, it's the POS network. Most of the banks have a lot of POS terminals at the merchants, shops, and if bitcoin becomes mainstream somehow, they can just update their POS terminals' software to accept bitcoin payments, and they can redirect the payments to given addresses. In this case, they can make some profit on the fees, because they already have the hardware, so it won't cost them more.
1482  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When I talk to NON-BitcoinTalkers they don't know.. on: April 15, 2017, 08:32:10 PM
I understand that feeling of being stupid. just imaging how did Albert Einstein had faced this same situation he has tried to explain his theory to other people but all they had said is he was crazy. We also face this same situation when people around us do not exactly gets what we are saying but i don't care because i know exactly what i am using and how this can change their feature
I also had the same feeling several times before, because of this. Nowdays, I only talk about bitcoin if i know that the people I talk to will understand it and if they have questions, they can ask the questions in the proper way, and they are interested in the answers as well (no trolls Smiley )
In the conversation mentioning the depth of the technical background of bitcoin can also make difference, because non-IT people will need more time to understand it, and if they're not patient enough, it it can lead them to resist the complete thing.
Some people are only interested if this can make them rich really quickly or not, and if I say no, they'll quickly lose their interest...
1483  Economy / Economics / Re: "European Central Bank: Still Too early for Blockchain Technology" on: April 14, 2017, 08:01:25 PM
The European Union's central bank today once again shot down the idea that it might use distributed ledger tech as part of its market infrastructure in the near future.

Published alongside the latest annual report from the European Central Bank, released on  tuesday, was a feature on the tech. While largely written in broad strokes, the paper reiterates a position expressed in the past by ECB officials – namely, that the central bank isn't likely to tap distributed ledgers in the near future.

Do you think eurozone central banking should embrace distributed ledger technology?
They should. But they are not ready yet, so the timing is not good for them. This is why they're trying to put the whole technology out of the focus of their speech.
There could be several reasons:
- they're working on a similar technology (but centralized), and they're not ready yet, and they need time
- they don't want people to start investing in bitcoin or altcoins, because of the price volatility and possible margin calls, lost investments, etc.
- maybe they want to prevent people from the above mentioned problems, because if people have problems with the blockchain technology, the central bank's new, similar technology will be also be resisted or rejected by the people
1484  Economy / Economics / Re: It's Time To Get Painfully Honest: Banks Are Evil on: April 12, 2017, 08:25:31 PM
It is hard for me to agree with you, even if not impossible.

Banks all over the world are exploiting both their customers, and the financial law.
I never could grasp the idea of why banks can borrow the money to someone else if they dont own it?

It is not logical at all, giving credits should be allowed only if the bank really has the money, not only numbers right?

That is why we should never let the financial system to create companies where you can deposit the money, but in case of all customers would try to get their money, bank would simply go bankrupt.

We should stop government help for banks, it is not fair at all to the rest of the community.

Interesting. I am really catched by your statement, Banks don't have money but only numbers. Apparently you can say banks really don't hold that much funds but it is not true to assume the amounts are only numbers or imaginary. I am studying banking system from quite a long, the process you pointing is known as Credit Creation. This process involves keeping aside of reserve funds for people who might come to withdraw their amount and on Earth it is all not possible that everyone come on same day. Consider even if something like this happen, banks can go for short term financing known as Call Money. So this problem is ruled out.
Now coming to numbers, when Banks accept deposit or give loans, they dont actually generate money but just shift ownership. It is like creating chain where amount get compounded at every level. This process is very vital for growth of economy and one of the leading reason why some countries are developed while others are not.
Banks do create money, not just shifting ownership. LDR or LTD ratio shows if the bank has more or less loans compared to the deposites. If the LTD ration is over 100% then the bank has given more loans compared to the amount of the deposited funds. In some countries, this LTD ratio is really strict, but if it's too strict, that can slow down the mentioned growth of the economy. Higher LTD ratio can speed up the growth, but too high LTD is risky, so it can be also bad for the growth.
1485  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Magyar (Hungarian) on: April 11, 2017, 08:58:36 PM
Koszi a kimerito valaszt. Ugy nez ki, elegge macerasnak tunik.

Teged amugy mi motival? Huh

Lenne meg egy masik kerdesem is.
Az username resznel a taller alatt megjelent egy "Litecoin grand poobah" es egy " Ethereum exprert" resz..

Ez mi a fene?   Huh

Sosem lattam meg.

Nalad meg van egy "Round apologist".


Április 1 mindent megmagyaráz a rangokat illetően Smiley
Motiváció? Semmi extra, annyi csak, hogy ha már itt töltöm az időmet, akkor nem bánom, ha kapok érte pénzt Smiley
Meg így muszáj vagyok normálisat posztolni, normális angolsággal, azt meg úgyis gyakorolnom kell.
Legutóbb kereskedni megtanulni akartam itt a fórumról összeszedendő információk alapján, de aztán jött ez a BU SW Hard fork vagy nem hard fork dolog és most már hetek óta ezt olvasom, hogy mik a várható jövőbeli hatások, stb..
Meg ha már ilyen szépen megpezsdült a magyar rész, valakinek meg kellene próbálnia kibulizni a magyaroknak egy saját Local-t, ne csak az other language-ben legyünk már...


Na a BU hardfork engem is foglalkoztat mostansag.
Milyen iranyba megy jelenleg?

Ugy tudom,  legutobbi fejlemenyek szerint kezd megegyezni a ket tabor.
Ill. itt van meg a mellekelt blokkok esete, amit a bitcoin core tagjai hoztak fel, mint lehetseges megoldast, de en nem latok meg semmi gyakorlati dolgot ezzel kapcsolatban.

Nektek mi a velemenyetek?

Egy esetleges hardfork utan, ha kettevalik a blokklanc milyen tarcat erdemes hasznalni, amivel konnyeden megoldhato, hogy mindket blokklancon hozzaferhessunk a bitcoinjainkhoz?
Mobil tarcaban van-e ilyen megoldas?

Ha gondoljatok, es egy kicsit felporgessuk a forumot, lehetne ez most egy kezdo tema, amit kifejthetnenk, megvitathatnank.


Ok, akkor beszélgessünk róla. Én sem állítom, hogy teljesen értem, jó lenne fejlesztői szinten benne lenni a dologban, de én is inkább csak felhasználó vagyok (egyenlőre, de nagyon szeretnék innen tovább lépni).

Szóval amennyire én értem a hardfork kérdést, arról van szó, hogy a bitcoin iránt az utóbbi években megnőtt az érdeklődés, és ezt már a jelenlegi blokkméretekkel nagyon nehézkesen lehet kiszolgálni. Sokan tapasztalhattunk az utóbbi hónapokban hosszú várakozási időket a tranzakcióknál, még akkor is, ha többszáz ezer sat-os fee-t küldtünk a tranzakciónk feldolgozásához. Néha több tízezer unconfirmed tranzakció is van.

Erre van két megoldás ötlet is, mindegyiknek vannak támogatói, és ellenzői. Az egyik a SegWit, a másik a BU. Ezek ha jól értem a tranzakciók skálázhatóságát tennék lehetővé valahogyan. Tehát a cél az, hogy újra emberi időben megérkezzenek a tranzakcióink.

A Bitcoin Core fejlesztők a SegWit-et támogatják. Ez egy továbbfejlesztése a core-nak, ami (amennyire tudom) már kész van, csak nem kapcsolták be.

A BU pedig magának a Bitcoin Core-nak egy hardforkja. Ezzel értelmezésem szerint gyakorlatilag egy altcoin jön létre (hasonlóan az Ethereum és az Ethereum Classic szétválásához). Két különböző coin lesz, de ugyanazt a blockchaint fogják használni.

Egy cikkben olvastam, hogy a forkolás pillanatában annyi lesz a balance-od a BU-n, mint amennyi BTC-d volt, tehát megkétszerezed a coinjaidat. Ekkor majd lehet, hogy az egyik elértéktelenedik, de előre nem tudhatod, h. melyik, ez attól is függ, h. mennyire válik be a BU.






Amit eddig sikerült felszednem infókat (remélem jól):
BU féle hard fork nem lesz, pont az említett hibák miatt a kódban.
Ami érdekes, hogy azóta a tranzakciók kezdenek visszatalálni az eredeti mederbe, a mempool csökken,sőt, ez több, mint érdekes.
Nem mondom, hogy valaki(k) csak azért gerjesztettek volna egy csomó tranzakciót, hogy kikényszerítsék a blokkméret növekedését (1M-ról valami magasabbra), de mióta vége a BU féle nyomulásnak, eltűntek a hatalmas sorbanállások...
Ha megnézitek a 60 napos mempool grafikont (https://blockchain.info/charts/mempool-size?timespan=60days), akkor látni, hogy február végén és március elején volt nagy a várakozó tranzakciók aránya, most visszatért egészen kezelhető mértékűre.
Nem ártana valahogy megoldani az egyre növekvő igényre akár előre felkészülve (Japán sztori) azt, hogy több tranzakció legyen feldolgozható, de gondolom azért vannak a nagyok, hogy az Ő fejük fájjon emiatt Smiley
1486  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you keep your bitcoins? on: April 11, 2017, 07:35:12 PM
What is the best way to do this, and what's the best way of ensuring a backup?

How do you currently store your coins

thanks in advance for any inputs


The best way to store bitcoins is with hardware wallet and you can easily download it. And of course for backing up just make sure you got a proper storage of that wallet so that whenever you want to get it, you can have it easily. Online wallets are risky but if you do trust them go for it, just make sure you are aware of what can happen to them anytime.

Also because it is more safer than the online wallet, because the online wallet is so vulnerable to hacker because of the internet, and we all know that everything is possible in our technology nowadays, and compare to the hardware wallet, hackers needs to get your wallet physically, for them to hack your wallet and it's much pretty reassuring because there is a lot of hackers that wants money, that is why we have to be more extra careful about our bitcoins.
I don't think that online wallet are risky because if you know how to manage your online account and you know how to secure your account then there is nothing to worry about. Just use a strong password and a separate email with strong password also and don't forget to turn on the 2 factor authentication in the website so you will be more secure.
You're right about the importance of the strong password and the 2FA and etc, the problem is not the hackers. The real risk is:
Just imagine, that you have your hard earned 2-3 or even more BTCs in your web wallet (means you have an account at a wallet service provider's website, and you don't have the private key, just an account, this is an online wallet). If the wallet provider goes down (closes the site, goes bankrupcy, etc.) then you will lose your BTCs.
If you have a hardware wallet or an offline wallet on your PC or laptop, you are in control of your private key (recovery seed, or any other backup method), so you don't depend on an untrustable party.
Web wallets are comfortable but risky, offline and hardware wallets are more secure but less comfortable.
1487  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you keep your bitcoins? on: April 10, 2017, 08:50:29 PM
I prefer to just use an online wallet from my phone. I use one small one for buying things or selling or trading. The other I keep most of my BTC in and is online as well. I send from the big one to the small one and never spend from the big one directly.
You shoul think about changing the "big one" to a cold storage (paper wallet, offline wallet, hardware wallet), just to be on the safe side. The little one is OK if it's a web wallet.
I store most of my coins in a hw wallet and I have a little amount in my Xapo web wallet with a Xapo debit card connected to it. If it seems that I have too much bitcoin in my web wallet, I transfer it to the cold storage or I simply spend it with the card Smiley
Just be sure that you own the private key of the "big one".
1488  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin defeats the Chinese government on: April 10, 2017, 08:38:05 PM
I've never expected for the Chinese government to ever really be able to combat the "Bitcoin menace" as it would be, regardless of all the various things they try to implement to get their people from using it. There are simply too many people with too many different means of getting what they want, along with too big of a market to stop it at this point.

Bitcoin is no longer experiencing the same influence from China as it once did. There is still some influence China can exert, but it is much smaller than what it used to be.

Honestly, I never think that the Chinese government is suppressing Bitcoin or Bitcoin users and Bitcoin miners.  If they are, they should have release and order of closure of all the Bitcoin mining farm in their country.  But have we heard of that news?  No.  Simply because Chinese government just want to make things in order.  They need to protect their interest and preserve their law on AML and KYC.  The reason why they are only after the exchanges that transacts Bitcoin and  other currencies.

exactly this. i have been saying this for a long time.
every time there is some small news in China about regulations, all the news media make that simple news into something horrible and make it so that Chinese government seem like a dictatorship set out to kill anybody who even thinks about bitcoin Smiley
and when you think about these new or get them from proper Chinese resources you can clearly see that the concern has always been about illegal activities done with bitcoin and an attempt to prevent it and nothing more.

so i say whoever that is talking about China and how they want to kill bitcoin is either very misunderstood person or they want to do something illegal and this prevents them.
OK, but if you don't have a trustable Chinese resource, you can't decide if the news are legit or not... Moreover, China is a very strict country, so you can just belive the news if they're a bit horrible. Things are different in China, so who knows...
I'm wondering what will be next after the BU thing that comes from China, but I'm more curious about Japan, since there are great news from there in connection with the everyday use of bitcoin. Japan is a bit different country, so we'll see.
1489  Economy / Economics / Re: Trump tax on foreign remittances could open market share for Bitcoin on: April 09, 2017, 08:20:36 PM
The biggest thing that I see with this is that if Bitcoin attempts to fill this void, it may cause regulations by the government just because they know this is the reason that bitcoin is being used for those people. It's not something that is going to help Bitcoin in the least and I wouldn't want to see it fill this void.

It's not going to help Bitcoin at all and it may see a bit of a surge for a little while in the means of more people using it but it will just make it harder for the rest of the people that want to use Bitcoin for a way that is accepted by the government.

It'll fuck Bitcoin if it fills this void, don't do it and heed the warning.
It is only natural for people to try to find the best way to take advantage of their resources, if you want to buy a car and in a car dealership and the car cost 20k and in another  the same car costs 15k then it makes sense to buy the cheaper one, it is that simple.
If people choose bitcoin for this international money transfer, it won't really affect price, because if someone buys bitcoin and transfers it to the family, the family will convert it into fiat as soon as possible, because they need the money in fiat, not in bitcoin. If people in these countries will be able to spend their bitcoins in shops, etc. then it will increase the demand and the price as well. Bitcoin needs to build up more acceptance, that's a key.
1490  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is there a SURVEY SITE that will pay you BITCOINS? anyone? on: April 08, 2017, 08:31:23 PM
Clixsense, Prizerebel, dollarclix, onedayrewards, are some of the sites having surveys and paying the members in bitcoin (but not only)
From this list, clixsense is a popular one wich is online since 2007 with above 7 millions members.
Clixsense has a bitcoin cashout process but it's not straightforward enough, you will get your bitcoins via tango card, you need to open a snapcard(?) wallet too. You can get your bitcoins (on tango card) into your new wallet, and from there you can send it whereever you want. For that wallet, they require you to verify your phone nr. too.
As others already mentioned, if you're not from the US, you'll get 2-3 surveys per week, $0,3 to $1 each. Tango card cashout limit is $10. It means that you have to wait nearly 10 weeks for the cashout (for $10). With a decent signature campaign (like bitmixer's Smiley ) you can do it in a few weeks with quality posts, and you'll get your bitcoins right onto your existing wallet.
1491  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When I talk to NON-BitcoinTalkers they don't know.. on: April 07, 2017, 08:42:05 PM
Most people I talk to may have heard of bitcoin but have no idea how to get any. In fact, most of them don't know what bitcoin is.

I've had talks like these for quite a few times. Cheesy Tho after a dozen of talks about bitcoin and how to earn it, only one friend remained active here.

I tend to keep all the deeper tech stuff out of the conversation since it only leads to confusion, keep it simple when talking to someone who's not into bitcoin.
only talking about bitcoin to your friends or other people will not easy for them to understand, infact few of them could hardly understand that what is bitcoin. you need to explain them practically by showing them how to do this.then after that they could understand easily. you need to explain all the features of bitcoin for attracting them.
I rarely talk to people about bitcoin. You just can't met anyone on the street, at the dentist, in the shops etc. and start to talk about bitcoin like you would do about weather when you do the small talk. Once I had to talk about bitcoin to a few people and I just convinced them that bitcoin has a practical side, I've ordered a drink for them and payed with my bitcoin debit card Smiley after that, they started to belive the every day usage of bitcoin
1492  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Magyar (Hungarian) on: April 07, 2017, 12:50:59 PM
Koszi a kimerito valaszt. Ugy nez ki, elegge macerasnak tunik.

Teged amugy mi motival? Huh

Lenne meg egy masik kerdesem is.
Az username resznel a taller alatt megjelent egy "Litecoin grand poobah" es egy " Ethereum exprert" resz..

Ez mi a fene?   Huh

Sosem lattam meg.

Nalad meg van egy "Round apologist".


Április 1 mindent megmagyaráz a rangokat illetően Smiley
Motiváció? Semmi extra, annyi csak, hogy ha már itt töltöm az időmet, akkor nem bánom, ha kapok érte pénzt Smiley
Meg így muszáj vagyok normálisat posztolni, normális angolsággal, azt meg úgyis gyakorolnom kell.
Legutóbb kereskedni megtanulni akartam itt a fórumról összeszedendő információk alapján, de aztán jött ez a BU SW Hard fork vagy nem hard fork dolog és most már hetek óta ezt olvasom, hogy mik a várható jövőbeli hatások, stb..
Meg ha már ilyen szépen megpezsdült a magyar rész, valakinek meg kellene próbálnia kibulizni a magyaroknak egy saját Local-t, ne csak az other language-ben legyünk már...
1493  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Japan to accept Bitcoin as payment method. on: April 05, 2017, 09:38:31 PM
It's good to see this type of news. We know how Japan is one of the richest country despite of it's geographical size for being small. This will make the growth of bitcoin very fast and once they started to apply it to the industry we'll see the price and demand of bitcoin to increase. I hope my country will recognize bitcoin like Japan.
Yes true, it is good news, it cannot be disputed again this will be followed by other countries, the financial systems of bitcoin is best so that will replace traditional payment systems.

Yes their move will be followed by other countries that are their subordinates or looking upon Japan. Because those countries realize that Japan's innovating almost everything and when they saw bitcoin is good for the economy of Japan. They will use it too for their country and many people will love how fast it is when it comes to transaction and it has a lot of feature.
I wouldn't say "many people will love how fast it is when it comes to transaction", but "how fast should it be when it comes to transaction"...
Today's problem is delay and high fees. If these are solved, bitcoin will be a famous digital money for the average people too. If delay remains or the high fees, bitcoin will be a kind of digital gold, to store value in it, but a kind of money foreveryday transactions.
1494  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best option to store BTC in hardfork event. on: April 05, 2017, 09:02:19 PM
If you've just bought 5BTC, it seems you take it as a long time investment...
In this case I won't keep all the eggs in one basket, so you should use many kind of wallets to store the coins.
For the coins you won't need for long period of time, you can use a paper wallet.
There will be a part of them you want to use for daily purposes, you can buy a trezor (safe and you handle your private key unlike if you use a web wallet), and trezor is OK for longer time storage too.
Web wallets are now not the best options for storing bitcoin. If you can, store only a very little amount in web wallets these days. We'll see if the fork will happen or not, but to be on the safe side, try to avoid web wallets.
1495  Economy / Economics / Re: It's Time To Get Painfully Honest: Banks Are Evil on: April 04, 2017, 07:09:49 PM
no shit sherlock

it's why most of the early investors even invested in bitcoin in the first place.

It's why bitcoin was created in the first place.

And ironically, bitcoin is now controlled by AXA.
Is it controlled, really? As far as I read it in the news, AXA and other groups (Deutche Bank, etc...) are only interested in the technology, and not already controlling bitcoin.
Or this is the Blockstream venture capital thing, sticking the system to the 1MB limit?
As I've read, banking industry don't want bitcoin at all, they only want the technology behind, and they want to create a similar but centralized one for their purposes. I don't think that bitcoin can be regulated or controlled, but everything is possible...
BU and the people behing wanted to rule bitcoin and fork it into a new coin, but it has still not happened, so I think bitcoin can be hardly regulated.
1496  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Japan to accept Bitcoin as payment method. on: April 03, 2017, 08:47:42 PM
It isn't any surprise that Japan is going to begin the Digital Payment route.
Japan was messing around with Digital Payment systems for a very long time, did you see the article about the payment system with the iris scanner + fingerprint scanner being built?

Here is the article: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/11/tourists-in-japan-to-use-fingerprints-as-currency/

Code:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/11/tourists-in-japan-to-use-fingerprints-as-currency/

Those things are even inside of Europe -people don't think twice and end up messing up their life because of these things. Credit Cards linked to iris scanning and fingerprint scanning will get people.

Bitcoin is only a beta project to test the civilians on how they will adapt to the electronic currency process.
If you don't think about the background and the technical things, bitcoin wallet can be just an application on a smartphone, so average Japanese people can use it like any kind of fintech applications to send money from phone to phone. The difference is the background, because bitcoin is accepted worldwide, the fintech applications are usually accepted only locally and they're centralized.
So if it has only been a test or a beta, it could have been any fintech app, to test the civilians, so there should be a reason why they have choosen bitcoin...
1497  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Japan to accept Bitcoin as payment method. on: April 02, 2017, 07:32:53 PM
the first japan bill containing virtual currencies is expected to come on april which recognizes bitcoin as a method of payment.Although,it doesnot define bitcoin as a legal currency,it is still considered as a remarkable progress for bitcoin in japan.Hope, most of tourists who would go to japan to see 2020 olympics would be able to pay in bitcoins.
What is meant by it being a paying method but not a legal currency? So, can you buy a ticket or rent a flat using bitcoin? Or perhaps a private company may decide to accept btc but governmental institutions can not?
Japan is a progressive country, so it is likely for it to accept innovations.
Acceptance of bitcoin depends on the merchants. If they can handle the volatility of the price, they will be OK. There are merchants now worldwide, who accepts bitcoin, despite of the current country's regulations, they just convert somehow their accepted bitcoins to local fiat currency and they're fine. I don't know about longer supply chains which use bitcoin from the beginning to the end. This could be possible in Japan, after this decision.
1498  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin progress in 2017 on: April 02, 2017, 09:03:52 AM

In my point of view I think that this year is going to be rough for bitcoin, I know that It seems that is going to do very well since it started at a very good value earlier, but with the problems that are popping up and the transaction becoming slower and fees are getting higher this is driving people crazy and they are quitting bitcoin, and I think if this persist we might see a huge drop.

i agree as long as prices keep going up for bitcoin it will receive heated up attention from critics and national monetary bodies

especially for a year like 2017 where price records were broken and more legal battles are still to be fought as they try to establish were bitcoin fits. I believe it will come out top of this

especially when transaction speeds are fixed, we should expect more bitcoin use from there.

People are more and more turning towards altcoins which worries me the most, I too have invested in some altcoins but still my main crypto currency will always be Bitcoin.
If we get through the problems of transaction delay and transaction fees then I think there is a bright future for Bitcoin as well as to us.
Transaction delay problem is only a problem if people want to use bitcoin as an electronic currency, and do the everyday money transactions with it. In this case the delay is a real problem and must have a fix for it as soon as possible.
If bitcoin will be like an electronic gold (to invest in it and it only should hold the value or rise it slowly), in that case the transaction delays are more or less acceptable, so there's no need for a prompt fix.
But in the last situation, we need something (altcoin, etc.) to do the everyday transactions with (e.g. to share the cost of the Saturday night beers with friends, without cash, bank card, etc)
I hope we'll have the answer soon which is the way forward...
1499  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin progress in 2017 on: March 31, 2017, 09:54:07 PM
I don't know if the possible fork will be good for bitcoin or not, because both parties have their own pros and cons. I think the better would be to work out the decision about the fork asap, because it affects the price now. Some people buying back fiat because of the rumours of the hard fork, so we need to have a clear view as soon as possible. Any advice in this situation is only speculation. A quick decision would help bitcoin the most now. If this uncertain situation will last long, that would just drop the prices, and would only frighten away the possible investors (especially the bigger ones).
1500  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Magyar (Hungarian) on: March 31, 2017, 08:16:28 PM
Es havi szinten milyen bevetelre lehet szaamitani, mekkora idobefektetessel?

Kaptam egy tablazatot, de abbol nem nagyon veszemm ki, mennyi azz annyi konkretan.
Egy senior member poszt a bitmixer-nél 0,0007 BTC (kerek 1000$-os árfolyamon számolva (de volt 300$ is a BTC, meg ki tudja, lesz-e még...) egy poszt 0,7$ (ami megint kerek 300 HUF/USD árfolyamon számolva 210 Ft/poszt). Van ennél is jobb ár, de elég kevés, és néhol már spéci dolgokat is előírnak, vagy kaszinósok...
Egy poszt időigénye változó, de nyugodtan lehet számolni rá fél órát, mert utána kell nézni, mit posztolsz, a kemény szabályok miatt. Meg, ha nem is kell rá fél óra, úgyis itt kell lógni a fórumon, hogy olyan topic-ot találj, ahova értelmesen lehet hozzászólni, és még számít is (mert nem minden topic számít az összesítésnél, sok ki van zárva, de ez már campaign függő, hol melyik van kizárva).
Ezeket figyelembe véve, ha nem akarsz 8 órában ezzel foglalkozni, mert épp nincs más, akkor nem ezen fog senki meggazdagodni...
Ha heti szinten posztolsz 10 értelmeset, akkor az már idő.
Van maximum is, általában 50 poszt / hét, ami maximálja az összeget 35$-ban, ami 10.500,- Ft a fent említett árfolyamon (heti szinten)
Egyszerre csak egy kampányban lehetsz, ha másik felhasználóval is bejelentkezel, azt általában észreveszik előbb utóbb, és repülés van Smiley
Havi szinten ez 42.000,- Ft, aminek az időráfordítás igénye min. 25 óra, ami napi 50 perc (legyen kerek 1 óra).
Ez még akár össze is hozható, de:
Aki 50-et posztol hetente, azt nagyon megnézik a campaign managerek, hogy nehogy fölösleges szeméttel szórja tele a fórumot, mert akkor megint csak repülés van Smiley van már erre szakosodott "kommandó", több campaign manager összeállt, hogy kiszűrjék a signature campaign-okból a spammereket.
A posztoknál hamar elfogynak a témák, és nagyon könnyű ismétlésbe keveredni, amit megint csak nem néznek jó szemmel.
Ha új topic-ot nyitsz, ott is nagyon kevés olyan van, amit még nem vitattak meg előtte, megint csak nehéz jól eltalálni.
Új téma meg nagyon ritka, vannak szezonális dolgok, amiket sokan olvasnak, kérdeznek, ilyen volt tavaly a bányászoknál a felezés, most meg a BU által erőltetett Hard Fork, de ezek a témák is kifulladnak idővel, és ezeket kifejezetten szeretik nézegetni a campaign managerek, mert szerintük ez a spam melegágya...
Ha gambling (szerencsejáték) kampányba keveredsz, akkor ott azt kell isteníteni, hogy milyen jó az adott kaszinós oldal, ahhoz nem fűlik igazán a fogam és mikor kezdtem, az akkori nagy öregek is ezt mondták, hogy akkor inkább nem kell a kampány, de ne miattam legyen valaki szerencsejáték függő...
Ha van minimum poszt elvárás, és minőség elvárás is, akkor az már nagyobb nyomás alá helyezi az embert, és nem minden nap van olyan állapotban valaki, hogy minőségi posztokat gyártson, ráadásul jó angolsággal, ha ez mondjuk csak 5 nap egy hónapban, az már 5 plusz óra, amit a többi napra el kell osztani, elég hamar eléri az embert a poszt kényszer, ami előbb-utóbb a minőség rovására megy...
Az egész egy kicsit más kontextusban:
Itt nálunk meggondolandó, hogy ezt állandó jövedelemforrásként űzze valaki, mert a havi fizetésnek kiegészítésére jó, másra nem nagyon, viszont a világ keleti felén, pl. indiában ebből eltartanak egy családot (najó, sarkítottam, de az arányok majdnem ilyenek...)
Na röviden ennyi Smiley
(Ja, igen, röviden, ezt a posztot kb. 20 perce írom, és még csak nem is angolul... az még egy 1,5x-es szorzó időben az én angolommal, jó, hogy valakinek ez nem lenne plusz, de ezt is bele lehet kalkulálni...)
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