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1101  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Like Visa, Mastercard, Amex, etc Bitcoin will not stand alone on: December 17, 2017, 10:47:47 PM
The difference is that since cryptocurrencies' security is based on PoW, the more cryptocurrencies that are accepted by large numbers of merchants, the less secure each one is against attack.

Also, Mastercard and Visa are both spending the same currency.  If you have multiple cryptocurrencies, the exchange rates would fluctuate with each other and it would be very inconvenient for the user.

There may be alternatives but just one is definitely preferable.
Mastercard uses EUR as a clearing currency and VISA uses USD, but the technology is more or less the same. Also, the debit and credit cards are not the money itself, they just link together the payment's initiator with the payment's recevier and they handle the communication between them.
The cards act like the mobile phone when you start a bitcoin transaction from a mobile wallet. They are the technical part of the system.
According to OP's example, it's like merchants will accept bitcoin, but they will use stickers on the shop's door to show what kind of mobile wallets (or bitcoin payment processors) they're accepting when it's about paying with bitcoin.
1102  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Question - wallet, addresses, seed on: December 17, 2017, 10:31:49 PM
In order to link your addresses together in one of those wallets, they would need either the seed itself (in which case they could steal all of your funds); or the master public key, which in the Trezor is shown in the wallet (I don't know about the Ledger).

But if they have one address, they can't find all of the other addresses based on that.


Thanks for the clarification. So as long as I don't combine the addresses (I have received the coins to) with each other when I'm sending a transaction, it seems that they're totally different and they haven't got any connection. If I have e.g. 10 addresses in the wallet and I receive 0.001 BTC for each address, nobody will be able to tell that in my wallet I have 0.01 BTC because they can't tell that the addresses are in the same wallet.
1103  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My Bitcoin success is now worrying me.. SECURITY? on: December 17, 2017, 10:23:54 PM
Use some kind of physical wallet (paper wallet, as mentioned above, or hardware wallet).
Create backup, don't create only one paper wallet, but some, and put it into trusted a safe locations.
Or, if you want to move your bitcoins (or part of them) sometime in the future easily, you can buy a hardware wallet (Trezor, Ledger Nano S), make sure the device has an own screen to verify the addresses and to be able to securely write down the seed (12-24 words, a kind of backup for your hardware wallet). What you really need is the seed, not the device itself, because if the hardware wallet e.g. crashes, you can buy another one and set up with your seed, you will see all your coins on the new device again.
Place your seed in a really safe place, in local and remote locations. If you haven't got someone you trust 100%, you can divide your seed into two parts and give half of them to 2 people (preferably, they should not know each other),  to store it safely, because they can do nothing with the half of your seed.
Don't worry, but think about the possible risks and take the necessary steps to handle them.
1104  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Question - wallet, addresses, seed on: December 17, 2017, 09:15:06 AM
I know that a hardware wallet (Trezor, Nano S, etc.) generates a seed and after it gives you nearly unlimited number of addresses which you can use to transact using the same wallet. It's adviced to use an address only once, to minimize the possibility of linking addresses and historical transactions together.
My question is:
Is it possible to link two addresses, generated from the same seed, based only on the common seed? (if there's no transaction that can link the two addresses together, even in the history of addresses?)
Is there any mathematical procedure to verify that two addresses are generated from the same seed?
1105  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Unconfirmed transaction on: December 16, 2017, 10:07:56 PM
I saw someone here he can help. He's offering confirmation service for stuck transactions for free. I don't remember in what section but i'll update if i find the thread again.
If the fee is below 10 sat/B, the viaBTC accelerator can't help, because despite of they're free but they need to have a little profit on every accelerated transaction too. Usually the small fees are higher than that even in case of a low cost transaction is choosen in the wallet. Without tx number, we can't even check the sat/B of the transaction, because it not only depend on the fee itself but the size of the transaction (inputs, outputs, etc...)
1106  Economy / Speculation / Re: Better Late than Never? on: December 16, 2017, 09:51:48 PM
My dad owns a few bitcoins, now he told me a few days ago that he is looking to sell his house in order to buy bitcoins, i told him that he was insane.

No one knows if bitcoin is going to crash or not, but risking a house is something very DIFFERENT from investing a few hundreds or thousands.

If you are looking to invest less than $10000, then do it, there is nothing to loss in there, you can easy recover $10k in a few months.

But if you are going to put all your life savings in here, do not do it, you are going to run with a huge risk.

If he already owns a few bitcoins, there can't be a real need to invest more and more, and risk the house and everything he has gathered. But, if he has a few houses, it can be a wise decision. Anyway, if he want to risk it, and he can afford to risk it, then risk it. He has 50% chance to win and to lose... In my opinion the way forward for the price is still up, but there could be some bumps on the road now, there won't be an easy ride... There are too many people investing now and fees are high, mempool is full. If LN starts that could help a lot, until then, we need to be careful...
1107  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens to regular currency? on: December 15, 2017, 10:07:06 PM
If you are worried about the existence of the traditional currencies then there is a good news for you that traditional fiat currencies are not going anywhere at least for next 100 years from now but we will see the change in the form of it over the time. If we are talking about the theoretical case then governments will legalize cryptocurrencies in worst case scenario in and try to regulate it in order to prevent the devaluation of traditional fiat currencies.
Existing fiat currencies are going to be digital in some years time. As smart mobile phones are spreading all over the world, the forms of payment will change and we'll use less paper and coin as money but debit and credit cards as well as debit and credit cards digitized into the mobile phones (using NFC payment method like MasterCard's PayPass solution). It's not bitcoin which will replace the physical money but the digitalization (that contains bitcoin, too). But, digitalization will help bitcoin, at the end, because if people will get used to pay with their smartphones, they will accept easier the usage of bitcoin on the same smartphone. Bitcoin will be just a 'foreign' currency for them, just like if you live in the EU, you know USD and maybe you have some USD as well, but it will always be a 'foreign' currency for you, but this won't stop you trying and using it, as well as trying and using bitcoin in the future.
1108  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Record high traffic on: December 15, 2017, 09:47:55 PM
Yeah it is good news, bitcoin and crypto market is increasing very fast!
The world is adopting bitcoin and everyday has new people joining in the crypto's world.

The bad news is that bitcoin has now more than 150k uncorfirmed transaction: https://blockchain.info/pt/unconfirmed-transactions
Fee is turning very expensive. We need lighning network asap.
I hope that the coming holiday season will give bitcoin some time to recover. I hope that people will spend their fiat on buying presents and not too much bitcoin for a while now, and for the beginning of 2018 the lightning network will start to operate (or as soon as possible). Poor developer guys at LN, they are under heavy pressure now, I think... (and of course, every other developers in the bitcoin ecosystem too...)
My fear is that this is the time when the average people try to invest in bitcoin and bitcoin have to show that it's competent and fine not to scare away the people with sky high fees and slow transactions... We need to survive this period, somehow
1109  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ALERT: INCREASED NETWORK TRAFFIC Bitcoin is going on a run on: December 15, 2017, 09:31:31 PM
There's no need to worry, the bitcoin network is running full speed for some time now, mempool is always full, this is not news anymore. To have a confirmation in one hour you need to include decent fee in the transaction, to get the miner's attention (they're hunting for transactions with high fees).
You haven't included any detail about your transaction but if you use an accelerator (and have a little luck) you can have your transaction done really quickly, as you have already experienced it.
Spreading FUD is not necessary...
1110  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: the $100 bitcoin fee on: December 14, 2017, 10:18:31 PM
if price and excitement carries on i can really see this becoming a reality next year. what effect would it have? would it drive out everyone but whales? would it drive out whales too if the minnows walked? would big boys take over and keep it for themselves? if that was the case would miners be making so much freaking money they'd no longer care about block size?

right now for its own health possibly the best thing bitcoin could do is crash and scare everyone away for a year or two. that should give enough time and space for businesses to integrate segwit and maybe those second layers will happen as well. by the time people come back it might be ready to accommodate them.

and no core moaning or alt pumping here. let's hear what you think could happen to bitcoin itself and nothing but if this takes place soon.
It's the time now for the Average Joes to hear about bitcoin because bitcoin is in the media already and now a lot of people are aware of the potential of bitcoin. Some of them want to try it and invest a little amount ($10-$100 or so). They don't know about the technical background, they just heared at the hairdresser that somebody has multiplied his investment by 10 last year with bitcoin, so why not to give it a try?  If bitcoin crashes now, they won't be back again in two years time and that would be really bad for bitcoin. Just imagine: 'Yes, I've heard about bitcoin, I've tried it, I've put my $100 in it and it has crashed, I lost nearly the whole sum in some months...' This is what we don't really need now, to scare away the average people
1111  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Carrying Hardware Wallets When Traveling Internationally on: December 14, 2017, 10:02:22 PM
Send your wallet.dat by email. This way you don't need to carry anything
OMFG.  What horrible advice.

Explain.
What about sending it in a password protected zip file with a really strong password? Using a really common file name like IMG_0001.zip?  If sysadmin has luck and can spot that the zip file doesn't cointain a real picture but a wallet.dat, he won't be able to brute force the password soon. Just an idea
1112  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin no more favorable comparatively on: December 14, 2017, 09:48:01 PM
It’s better to invest in other cryptoz as they have more potential to multiply than other as they are too low
Litecoin and multiplied by three times within days

Its actually somewhere true as bitcoin is out of the reach from average person now i remember i used to pay 6 bucks of my web hosting account every month with bitcoins which now i cant, if i want to pay my bill of 6 bucks with bitcoins i have to pay 16 bucks as almost $10 is the fee of the transaction, its not good for small industry.
Bitcoin is not for small everyday purchases as of now... You can make small transactions but you should be lucky with the fees or use an accelerator or to pay really high fees. It only worths the time/cost/effort if you are in a real need. Else, you can just hold your bitcoins and use your fiat instead, if you can, and expect bitcoin to grow more. I have bought a few years ago a coke with bitcoin. I don't want to calculate now, what is the price of that coke, if I calculate it with the exchange rate today...
1113  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cryptoworld? Is it overheated? on: December 14, 2017, 09:37:18 PM
In the last days we saw huge increase in several coins. And for many of them those jumps were unexpected. For me it seemed that huge money came into market. We are getting bigger, but at the same time I found that I loose control over what is going on. Before the market was easier to follow. Every jump had its cause (exchagne, partnerships, etc.). Nowadays it seems that hungry newbies with millions of dollars came to the market. Now it grows due to hunger, but what will happen when those new players jump out of crypto?
Its not just you, I also feel like you do, and i believe many more are feeling the same way. I didn't expect bitcoins price to rise so high and so fast, but i can understand why that happened... at least i think i do. And as far as alternative currencies are concerned, i guess their price rise because of bitcoins price. Also some bitcoin holders expect drop in bitcoins price, and because they want to ensure their money, they trade their bitcoins for some altcoin, which is increasing other currencies value as i said.

If few big bitcoin holders decide to sell their bitcoins, that could lower the price. If bitcoins price drop as fast as it rise, there could be a problem. Panic sale could happen, because there's so many newbies in bitcoin world who do not understand how it all works. So there is chance for price to go down... a lot. But it could also continue to rise.
Big bitcoin holders are smart enough if they want to sell their coins they won't pour them on the market at once... If they do, the price will crash, but if they just sell them piece after piece in small portions, it won't drop the price. It takes more time to sell the bigger portion, but it worths the time and the effort, because they will get proper earnings on those transactions. Also, I think this kind of sell can be automated thru the api of the exchange, so they don't need to sit next to the PC the whole day or so, because trading scripts can do this for them.
1114  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Which wallet is the best for Bitcoin Now? on: December 13, 2017, 10:01:02 PM
In fact the best thing that you can do is just get yourself a hardware wallet, maybe you are thinking that this is a joke, but a lot of people have already lost their bitcoins because they were storing their btc's in an online wallet.

And they are not expensive, just tell me, do you think that paying $49 for a single wallet is expensive? of course not, becuase you are going to protect it almost forever.

Coinbase is safe, the same happens with blockchain.info, but they are online wallets, and that is why i have never liked them, a hacker can get your funds easy from there.

Just get a trezor
Trezor or Ledger Nano S is equal in functionality but only the price that makes difference.
Online wallets (not giving out private keys) are not safe, so you should only store little amount of bitcoin in online wallets. Other wallets on the web are a bit safer, if they give you your private key or seed, but you should consider that if you have to use your private key or seed on a webpage to interact with your wallet, you have to input it on the webpage. There are several possible points of attack: Keylogger built into keyboard, keylogger built into the OS on the PC, malware on the PC, phising website to grab your key, or man in the middle attack while your key are on the way to the website (travelling on the web from your PC to the wallet's server).
If you use a hardware wallet, the private key or seed won't be shared with anyone (PC, keyboard, internet, website, etc.) With a hardware wallet, you only send signed transactions from your PC, from which the private key or seed is not extractable. Everything in the process that needs a private key happens on the hardware wallet itself this is why they are really safe choice.
You pay for this safety and not only for a wallet itself.
1115  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Federal Reserve starting to think about its own digital currency!!! on: December 13, 2017, 09:48:46 PM
What happens to the bitcoin if this news is real? Think apple amazon eBay accept this fed's coin. Why people continue to buy bitcoin anymore? What you think ?
You can't compare the two digital money. Bitcoin is decentralized and a way new technology. Digital USD already exists nowdays, but now we call it debit card and credit card. The new digital currency will be only the substitution of the phisycal card to e.g. a mobile wallet app for that digital USD currency. (It means, you won't need a card to access your funds in the bank if you want to withdraw money or pay at a POS terminal. You will be able to use your smartphone to pay or to withdraw). The technology behind is not so interesting for the average joes. They don't care if their payment goes thru a centralized system (VISA, MasterCard, AMEX payment processors' systems) or just uses a blockchain technology. Bitcoin system is totally different, it's not just digitizing the current system, but it's changing the whole process from the beginning to the end.
1116  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Big Bank Warns of “Bitcoin Crash” in 2018: Here’s Why It Seems Doubtful on: December 13, 2017, 09:27:11 PM
Deutsche Bank sees the possibility of a Bitcoin crash in 2018, but we have reasons to support why this fear is overexaggerated.
Deutsche Bank has released a list of 30 possible events that pose a high risk to investors across the world in the coming year. A few of these include high inflation in the U.S., the Russian presidential elections, and the bursting of housing bubbles in Canada, Sweden, and China.

More Detail Here... profitconfidential.com
Its just a fear based on an ideology that bitcoin crash might affect investors largely. It does not gives any evidence as to the fact that bitcoin will crash soon in 2018. I think 2018 is too soon to say that bitcoin can crash. Its not known to a great part of world.
So you are saying that the bitcoin crash depends on how much known in the world it is ? Bitcoin could crash anytime no one knows if it's sooner or later.
But most likely if it's going to happen it's now . The price has gone extremly high and it's possible that it goes down at the same rate.
Bitcoin is now on the way to get known by more and more people. This means a higher demand, which can help to sustain the price of bitcoin for a while. This could be enough to finish the development of the LN and the Atomic Swap. If they go live, that could solve some major problems of bitcoin, like fees, transaction times etc... which also can help the price not to crash.
Also, if governments start to regulate bitcoin in order to get tax out of it, can make some negative effect on the price on the short run, but on the long term it could help bitcoin to be an accepted digital payment method.
1117  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: More than 400,000 transactions in a single day on: December 12, 2017, 10:46:15 PM
Wow I didn't know this and it is a good step in the right direction. Now we need more accounts to get on SegWit so we can enable Lightning Network. Then people will really see the power Bitcoin possess.
There's a good article about Lightning Network on coindesk:
https://www.coindesk.com/lightning-bitcoin-scaling-tech-really-know/
They say that LN has a great potential but the deadlines are a bit far away yet, so we need to wait some more time to start using the Lightning Network. On reddit they talk about the similarities of the Lightning network and IOTA. This LN topic is in the news now, they have already named it blockaccino...
1118  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin fever on: December 12, 2017, 10:15:50 PM
"There is no single person on earth who haven't heard of bitcoin."


Most people on earth dont even have internet...

Lot of people haven't heard of it and even a larger population doesnt understand it.
There's no really need to understand bitcoin for the average joes. Like they don't really understand the technology behind e.g. smartphones, but they can use it pretty well. They know a lot about their outfit, does it have an apple logo at the back or not and they can easily judge them without any technological knowledge.
Maybe this will be similar to bitcoin, the average joes will only need a good application on their smartphones to use bitcoin and they won't care about the background at all. They will also judge the different alts as well, based on news from unreliable sources, but that's life.
I won't mind if people don't understand bitcoin as long as they are happy to use it...
1119  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how can you be sure that exchange platform is trustable? on: December 12, 2017, 10:04:33 PM
It's nothing about trust in connection with the exchanges. No one really trust the exchanges, but everybody have to use them if there's a need to exchange cryptos to fiat or cryptos to cryptos. The real question is how to minimize the risk for the period of time when the funds/coins are on the exchanges. This is where you can search for well-known and widely used exchanges. Those exchanges will have the less possibility to scam you which has some regulation already in their country.
There's another kind of exchange where you can minimize the risk, those are the decentralized exchanges (like etherdelta) where you can directly exhange cryptos without any need to trust anybody/anything. Unfortunately this only works for ethereum tokens yet, and in my opinion this is hardly possible to implement in connection with fiat.
1120  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gavin Anderson warned of the transaction and fees crisis on: December 11, 2017, 10:55:04 PM

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/540921/the-looming-problem-that-could-kill-bitcoin/

This was over 2 years ago.  Those that ran the price up over the last $9000 probably have no idea about these issues.  With things the way they are they will find out...and that's when the panic selling will begin.  This is not FUD...it's FACT.  Everyone was warned by the top dev...and nothing was done.  Now is a good time for everyone to look into futures and options to hedge their bets if they cannot sell.


It is now evident that fees and scalability issue aren't the obstacle in the way of bitcoin and its price. If so is the case then people would have already migrated to any of the rest of 1000+ cryptocurrencies or there would have been flippening already with some forked coin. But this isn't the case. People aren't affected from transaction delay or high fees while purchasing bitcoins. The central idea behind bitcoin has been changed and people are more interested in buying, holding and selling at higher prices rather than using bitcoins in general transactions.

wow great then explain pls, why ireland electricity production is necessary for this "value storage" while there are people starving or wells cant be drilled? or children and schools dont have electricity for light or cooking in the third world, or where there are constant electricity shorages?

bitcoin is popular because the central banksters arent popular, in the nation state economy everyone is at risk except them, its now time they learn to live with risks, bitcoin drives its value from the banksters unpopularity many see bitcoin as their crypto hand granate against the banksters, they dont care weather they will grab for an alt coin later.

the tulp mania in the netherlands also changed the netherlands forever, tulps became the countries national symbol, but never again a house was traded for a "semper augustus"

bitcoin at its earliest begining marketed itself as low cost alternative to banks, now its an energy wasting high cost alternative to banks

regards
Well, bitcoin is wasting some electricity, that's OK. What I don't think is that Bitcoin uses as much electricity as banks. There are a few really big banks where only the HQs and the branches in capital citys use as much energy as Bitcoin itself with miners and users, etc. Big banks has not only HQs but branches at the countryside too, ATMs, etc, so they use way much more electricity compared to Bitcoin.
From this point of view, bitcoin can save some electricity compared to banks and can do the international money transfer with much less consumed electricity than a bank.
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