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1361  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin starts to rise on: September 17, 2017, 06:51:31 AM
It is really a good news to all bitcoin users around the world, the only thing why bitcoin dropped so high is because of the newbies were selling in panic and because china has banned ICOs.

actually panic sell can be avoided if only the beginners know that all this is just a scenario and cycle. there are many members here who say to hold bitcoin, but they are still afraid. it's best to make these moments a lesson for making better decisions in the future.
Nope, if you really want have profit when the panic time happens, you should withdraw your money to USDT. USDT is good choice for traders still want trading, because if you are trader, hold your Bitcoin just make you feel more boring.
What is the difference between cashing out to fiat or to use USDT to trade the bitcoin? Is it safe to use this USDT? Why not to trade the bitcoin to some alts, as long as the price of bitcoin drops? There should be at least one alt among others, which doesn't fall these days.
1362  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin starts to rise on: September 15, 2017, 03:01:37 PM
a few hours ago I noticed bitcoin had started to rise. and now it has reached $ 3409.97. What do you think ?
Weekend has started already in Asia, so sellers went to enjoy their freetime Smiley
To be serious, we won't be sure what is the new direction, especially in the weekend, so let's wait for the beginning of next week.
1363  Economy / Economics / Re: BTC and Banks on: September 15, 2017, 02:54:29 PM
Many people argue that the presence of bitcoin becomes a threat banks, this is because by having bitcoin then we can do full control of all the money as happened with the bank.
There's nothing wrong with full control of your money. Banks were made in the ancient times, to save people's money. That time money was gold, and if you had a lot of money, it meant a heavy treasure chest, where you have stored your money. People put their money into banks in order to prevent it from being stolen by thieves. They had the chance to control all of their money, but the risk of the theft was really high, this is why they used banks.
In connection with bitcoin, this problem is solved by using cold or hardware wallets, they are small enough to hide it in your house. But, when you want to do a transaction, you have to somehow use your cold wallet or hardware wallet, and when you connect to the internet, your PC, tablet, etc. could be affected by a virus or malware, so maybe the next banks would be the wallet softwares (wallet websites), which ensure that your bitcoin in the wallet won't get hijacked during the transaction.
1364  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin first true enemy! Not the goverment, banks or police. It's Antpool. on: September 14, 2017, 09:26:09 PM
Fees are going through the roof, block space is needed like water in desert and condoms in the red district.

And yet you have these PoS , doing this
https://blockchain.info/en/blocks/AntPool

Miners are going to play with bitcoin just like banks are destroying fiat.
I have noticed that too, now it takes forever for transactions to get confirmed and the fees keep rising, I think most miners are switching to bitcoin cash, there are now lots of unconfirmed transactions on the network.
It's very unusual, in the last weeks we haven't had such a high amount of transactions in the mempool:

According to fork.lol, the BTC DARI is higher again (changed around 18:00 14th Sep.) then the BCH DARI, so this could be the reason of the decrease of the BTC mempool, which can be seen on the last part of the mempool graph.
1365  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Magyar (Hungarian) on: September 14, 2017, 09:11:25 PM
Látom nagy tolongás van itt a magyar topicban  Grin
Mikor fog felkerülni a magyar szekció a fő csoportba? Ez itt a fő kérdés  Wink

Sajnos csak akkor, ha elég nagy az aktivitás. Napi jó pár bejegyzés kellene.
Pedig szerintem igény lenne, főleg ugy hogy rengeteg magyar van szanaszét a világban és tudnának saját tapasztalataikat leírni.
Nem beszélve hogy tudnának segíteni azoknak akik nem nagyon tudnak angolul.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1959404.0
Itt lehet lobbizni Smiley
Múltkor még csak válasz sem jött, nem voltunk eleget a főoldalon, nem volt aktivitás a topicnyitós topicban...
[optimizmus] Nem írták azt sem, hogy ne próbálkozzunk, mert felesleges Cheesy [/optimizmus]
1366  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does this buyer look safe to you guys? Looking to sell, then buy back in. on: September 13, 2017, 09:38:13 PM
Interesting, account was created 9 months ago, email, ID etc. has been verified 1 month ago... The guy has really took the time to prepare and start the business. Feedbacks are marked with low value notification.
Anyway, it's your decision, give us an update about the outcome, if you decide to trade.
What about exchanges? You can sell and buy back, if you don't need full anonymity.
1367  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin 'is a fraud' that will 'blow up,' FUD OR FACT on: September 13, 2017, 09:26:53 PM
Bitcoin 'is a fraud' that will 'blow up,' says JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon
Is this a fact or he is just creating another FUD?

See the two sides below
"Speaking at a bank investor conference in New York, Dimon said, 'The currency isn't going to work. You can't have a business where people can invent a currency out of thin air and think that people who are buying it are really smart.'

"Dimon predicted big losses for bitcoin buyers. 'Don't ask me to short it. It could be at $20,000 before this happens, but it will eventually blow up.' he said. 'Honestly, I am just shocked that anyone can't see it for what it is.'

'Like it or not, people want exposure to bitcoin,' Edward Tilly, chairman and CEO of exchange group CBOE Holdings Inc., said at the same conference.

Any good trade is started with a difference of opinion, Tilly added. 'So Jamie can be on the short side and the issuers and those trading in physical can be on the long side, and it sounds like we have a great trade.'


Bitcoin is decentralized and banks are centralized, with bitcoin's price that has increased from more than it ever has, banks now see it as a threat and JP Morgan being the largest bank in the US ,the CEO is trying to fool people by saying that bitcoin is a fraud . So that people will deposit money in his bank and not in bitcoin or altcoins.
There are two kind of people, got involved in bitcoin:
1. Hodlers, they won't sell, ever Smiley
2. Other people, (newcomers, cautious investors, etc.) who trade the news, and they sell in case of bad news. (And they trust the news, if it comes from a turstable source). If the news are really bad, they can wrap their head around, and sell their bitcoin with huge loss, just to save a part of the investment...
Problem is, people don't know which information is trustable in connection with bitcoin, so they turn to the normal everyday sources, and it can be really misleading, like JP Morgan.
Wait a second, JP Morgan is interested in ETH, and member of the EEA...
1368  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is the process behind the conversion of cryptocurrencies to Fiat? on: September 12, 2017, 07:55:37 PM
you hand bitcoin to the service.

the service privately sells the bitcoin for fiat on exchanges to refill its fiat reserves,

the fiat reserves the service have are used to topup/charge/load the debit cards

but all the customer see's is that they hand over bitcoin and get credited fiat on their card

Allright, do you know any company that provides this kind of service? What are the fees?
Thanks
If you are from the EU, you can check XAPO as well, they have a bitcoin debit card directly linked to your bitcoin wallet, so they do the exchange on the fly when you use your card, you don't need to top up your card every time. Their support is always overloaded, you can check about them in the bitcointalk forum as well, they have their own thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=902526.0
1369  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: is it better to invest in bitcoin or ethereum ? on: September 12, 2017, 07:20:58 PM
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Just a quick math, let's check the figures and forget about the technology, history, etc. behind the coins for a little while, let's say they're more or less equal in terms of usage and trust.
BTC has the price of $4,000 roughly nowdays. ETH is about $300. To gain a 100% profit out of them for BTC you have to wait a rise of another $4,000, to get the price to $8,000, just to double your investment (considering you're joining the club now, and have to buy your first coins now on market price). For ETH, it's only $300 which is not a really huge amount, compared to BTC. If ETH grows $300 and the price gets to $600, the price of $1,000 is not far away, that gives you more than 200% return on investment on the same period of time. It's just a quick calculation, based on the assumption that the two coins are nearly equal in usability and trustworthiness. But real life is not this simple Smiley

Sorry mate are you really that dumb ? You can not direct compare prices of those stocks you have to compare m. caps.

1    Bitcoin Bitcoin    $68,703,001,679    $4148.97    16,559,050 BTC    $1,553,570,000    -0.41%    sparkline
2    Ethereum Ethereum    $27,651,474,483    $292.41    94,563,405 ETH    $580,010,000    


So ETH is now 40% of BTC size. If you make them equal on market you have to put like 2-20 blions of USD to make m caps 1:1.
Eth with rise 2.5x will get BTC size. And is f. obvious then will be qual harder to pump both.

****

If you want invest then you should look for cheap ETH alternative not ETH for gains that is sure for me.
Once ICOs will collapse it will be bloody mess with ETH and massive eave of hate will come on it.
95% of investors those ICOs will burn 100% money.
[OFF]Let's skip the dumb part.[/OFF]
You're right about the market cap, but it was not counted in my calculation. Smaller market cap and lower price means that a smaller amount of money is enough from the whales or from anybody to pump or dump the price of ETH, which means if some whales want to earn quick money, they can move the price of ETH significantly higher (or lower) investing the same amount of money in ETH, compared to BTC, because bitcoin is much bigger (market cap).
You're right about the ICOs, and the effect that it will cause if ICOs will be regulated/banned in several countries. On the other hand, ETH is not only for ICOs but some multinational companies (Dell, Microsoft, banks, financial service providers) are working on a brand new system, based on blockchain technology and ETH at the moment. It's OK that it can change in the future, they can develop a new coin for their purposes in no time if they have all the neccessary resources, but at the moment they use ETH.
The big companies have the funds to support ETH's price, if it's their interest. If it's not, they can let it go down, and buy cheaper, if they want to. Nobody knows.
1370  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: is it better to invest in bitcoin or ethereum ? on: September 11, 2017, 09:30:33 PM
In my opinion investing in ethereum would be a good idea now .. As you see the price of bitcoin its almost 4000$+ now and ethereum price is almost 300.. Bitcoin price was almost 500$ last year and now 4000 ... If you buy ethereum now in 300$ it can hit 2000$ in about one year ...
So in my opinion Ethereum is the best option to buy right now...
Just a quick math, let's check the figures and forget about the technology, history, etc. behind the coins for a little while, let's say they're more or less equal in terms of usage and trust.
BTC has the price of $4,000 roughly nowdays. ETH is about $300. To gain a 100% profit out of them for BTC you have to wait a rise of another $4,000, to get the price to $8,000, just to double your investment (considering you're joining the club now, and have to buy your first coins now on market price). For ETH, it's only $300 which is not a really huge amount, compared to BTC. If ETH grows $300 and the price gets to $600, the price of $1,000 is not far away, that gives you more than 200% return on investment on the same period of time. It's just a quick calculation, based on the assumption that the two coins are nearly equal in usability and trustworthiness. But real life is not this simple Smiley
1371  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to take keep your BTCs 100% safe? on: September 11, 2017, 08:36:28 PM
Online wallets are never safe especially when they're on exchanges. The best is hardware wallets or paper wallets but they're also not 100% secure. Better is to use an old Android device, configure it once, get all the back ups and use it as a cold storage.

I never use online wallets since they're not even 1% safe, one exploit, and all of your funds can be gone. I use trezor, plus metal phrase keeper plus a swiss locker for the metal phrase keeper.
Does the metal phrase keeper worths it's price? If you engrave/scratch it into a piece of metal label (like dog-tag for the millitary troops), it also can hold your seed safe, and also fireproof (waterproof, shockproof, etc Smiley
 ) You also won't need the swiss locker if you change the order at least two words in the seed, just remember the original order...
1372  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China is Laughing on: September 10, 2017, 08:21:54 PM
Their influence isn't as big as you think. If you take a look at price charts we'll see that Bitcoin has lost only a couple hundred USD in value when the news from China reached the media. It was not more than 1/10 of its price! It means most people decided to sit and wait instead of rushing to the exchanges. You can't keep spreading fake news forever, people will finally learn to ignore it.
I know a lot of people who has only bought bitcoin and they don't care about it at all (real hodlers Smiley ). If there is a FUD, they don't read anything, so they won't react. And there are a lot of people who read news only once per day or on weekends because they are really busy in real life things, so FUD can have impact on people but not on all of them. Or, if somebody is on holiday, they won't care about FUDs, just when they're back from holiday...
1373  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Stop compulsive chart checking? on: September 10, 2017, 12:23:42 PM
I'm not a day trader - in it for the long term.
How can I convince myself not to keep looking at the market charts multiple times per day?
Risk only an amount you don't care about. That's all, you won't keep looking the charts because it doesn't matter. If you only want to hold, then it's enough. Time will tell. It won't gain really high profit for you, but you won't be disappointed if anything goes against your position.
1374  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC Transaction fee on: September 09, 2017, 11:07:06 PM
Use wallets that do have dynamic fees such as Electrum and blockchain.info. These services often imposed their own fees based on the lowest possible fee on the network for the transaction to be confirmed within the next block. Also, I believe that some mobile wallets support dynamic fees too such as Mycellium and could be handy as well.
Fees in mobile Mycelium wallet is also overpriced (imho). The low-prio fee was about 250sat/B when the mempool was just about to empty and most of the 5-20 sat/B transactions were processed intraday. OK, my transaction with the high fee was processed in 1 hour or so, but I was not in a hurry so the problem is that not every wallet lets you enter fee manually, but you have to choose from the dropdown list.
I don't like conspiracy theories but it does it make sense if big wallet providers runs miner farms as well and they send their overpriced transactions to themselves to mine? They can earn more on transactions and they can still mine bitcoins, double income...
1375  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Portugal Joins Spain, France in Cash Crackdown on: September 07, 2017, 05:15:19 PM

Yup.

It's interesting that ordinary people don't seem to be reacting to this at all

Also - I found this interesting article from 2016:

https://www.ft.com/content/e979d096-5fe3-11e6-b38c-7b39cbb1138a

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The idea of keeping piles of cash in high security vaults may sound like something from an old movie plot, but some banks and insurers have recently started considering the idea as interest rates sink below zero across much of Europe.

Europe’s highways are not yet jammed with heavily guarded trucks transporting money to top-secret locations, but if it becomes financially sensible for banks to hoard cash as rates are cut even further, the practice could undermine central banks’ ability to use negative rates to boost growth.

After the European Central Bank’s most recent rate cut in March, private-sector banks are paying what amounts to an annual levy of 0.4 per cent on most of the funds they keep at the eurozone’s 19 national central banks. This policy, which has cost banks around €2.64bn since ECB rates became negative in 2014, is intended to spark economic growth by giving banks the incentive to lend money out to businesses instead of holding on to it.

Private bankers and insurers are already thinking of creative ways to avoid those charges altogether.

One way is by turning the electronic money they keep at central banks into cold, hard cash. Munich Re has experimented successfully with storing a double-digit million sum of euros in cash at what the insurer describes as a manageable cost. A few other German banks, including Commerzbank, the country’s second-biggest lender, have also considered taking the step. But when a Swiss pension fund attempted to withdraw a large sum of money from its bank in order to store it in a vault, the bank refused to provide the cash, according to local media reports.

If this practice becomes widespread, it would have big economic implications. If banks are not paying central bank interest charges, then they will not be as affected by further official interest rate cuts. They therefore would not be spurred to lend out more money.

So it's possible that this is all aimed at the BANKS. Phase out cash, and they can't avoid negative interest rates by keeping their cash in a vault.


Interesting that banks can hold such amount of cash in their vault, and you as an everyday person cannot deposit cash into the bank's safe box, because it's not allowed and you can only store gold, jewellery, etc, but not cash... People are also affected by the negative interest rate, so they need to think about investing their money into something, if they want to gain some interest...
1376  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Future of Blockchain? on: September 06, 2017, 07:37:58 PM
What do you think is future of Blockchain technology? Where do you see this in next 8-10 years?
Blockchain is not only bitcoin and altcoins. Blockchain is a system, a technology, etc. It can help various parts of everyday life, everywhere, where you find data and where you need to deal with data. Just think about the smart contract ideas of eth, some of them are not related to coins or money (just indirectly).
8-10 years? e.g. in fintech apps, you can't compare the status of the technology in 3 months time...
1377  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Market cap of BTC passes that of PayPal on: September 06, 2017, 05:10:25 PM
That's really a great news to see that we are gaining momentum but still, this is just a single step towards global crypto based economy. Here is the summary of transaction volume of various payment methods, even though the data is old but still it gives a little idea of where we stand today and there is a lot more to achieve.


I am sure that in next 10 years Bitcoin will be number 1 choice for the worldwide payment transfers.

Great chart and a nice to see visually where we are at in comparison
to others. What would make a huge difference is if more online marketplaces
like EBAY would initiate an option to pay with Bitcoin. Buyers and sellers who
are not currently using Bitcoin would possibly consider entering the market.
One of the biggest problem with this is that most of the people don't know about bitcoin, still. If they manage to get some, then the problem will be the price.
For the buyers: they calculate and buy the neccessary bitcoin at certain price, e.g. $4,000 Later on, when they want to spend it, the price is $3,200 so it's not enough to buy the item. (if the price is $5,000 then there's no problem)
For sellers: If the seller doesn't exchange the bitcoin they get for the item immediately (e.g. because they're sleeping at night) next morning the bitcoin price could get them into loss.
If people start to get income in bitcoin, then it will be much better, because the exchange rate will be unnecessary to calculate with.
1378  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Btc storage question on: September 05, 2017, 08:16:37 PM
There's a lot of good responses here already, but I want to add that password strength is usually measured in bits of enthropy, for easier comparison with recommended values of security level. For a long time 80 bits of security were considered the minimum requirement, but now this number was increased to 112 bits.

So, how many bits there are in your example? Well, the formula is easy -



Your L is 8, while your N is 10,000, so H = 106.3

This means that it's unlikely to get brute forced now, but it might become crackable in 10-20 years with your home pc.
ok thanks sir, perfect answer.

You haven't revealed what was the main idea behind your question, but if it's like you will write down a part of the seed and store it somewhere (in)secure place, and you don't want your coins got stolen if someone finds the seed, there are some other methods to store your seed safely.
E.g. you can write down your entire seed, but in alphabetical order, and the only thing you need to memorize is the order of the words in the seed.
Or you can just write down the seed in the original order, but at the end, you swap two words (preferabely not the first and the last), and noone will know which words to swap to get back the original seed. Or (when words are in the original order), write an extra word somewhere in the seed, and you should only remember the additional word, which is not part of the seed.
You only need to be 100% sure that you will remember what to do.
1379  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Electrum Litecoin Wallet - legit? on: September 05, 2017, 07:55:15 PM
Is the Electrum Litecoin Wallet legit? Was it created by Electrum just like the Bitcoin one?
If you think about storing different sort of coins for a longer period, you should consider cold storage, especially hardware wallets. Prices are sooner or later will become lower as time goes by, (ledger nano s is about $70), and they allow you to store a huge sort of coins, from bitcoin to litecoin, ether, etc. you can check it at the different wallets' webpage. They have the neccessary interface implemented, to manage your coins. If you want to use paper wallet, you will need a wallet software, to manage the paper wallet, so you will be searching for a legit wallet again. Hardware wallets solve this problem for you, but they costs money, paper wallet is free. Why hardware wallets are cost money (besides the physical hardware part) is the wallet software that they provide to you, with the neccessary updates (firmware and online wallet software).
1380  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Almost All Cryptocurrency have fallen on: September 04, 2017, 10:24:12 PM
This does not surprise me. The Chinese government have the power to influence the cryptocurrency market and that is a fact(Look at NEO). I feel sad for the people who bought a ton of altcoins right now since this is a very bad time to buy. Buying and HODling is still the best strategy though, according to me.
Chinese government has not banned all the cryptos, so it's not the reason for the fall, it's a consolidation, it is usually happens after ATHs. Chinese government also mentioned that they ban certain ICOs, but NEO will be OK for the regulation, so not to worry. Despite of this, NEO is also down with the other alts, but for the future, it could be a sign, that they prefer NEO coin before others/bitcoin.
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