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blockstream is the one who should fork off. and I will never call their fork bitcoin. more like segwitcoin
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we're rich, who needs to speculate any more any way?  |
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Bter stole some 7 BTC from me and now they intend to pay me back in CNY according to the BTC price at the time when they stole my BTC. So they list some BTER X BTRX 9,258.227565 under my account. I tried to withdraw PPC and my request was denied because of KYC verification. It really pissed me off but nevertheless I completed the KYC and it finally succeeded. So now my account is verified BUT WHEN I TRIED TO WITHDRAW AGAIN I WAS DENIED. Pics related.   Does anyone know what do I have to do to get my money out from this scammy bter piece of shit exchange? I verified my account sent them pics of my passport and what not and still they are not paying me the money that rightfully belongs to me. Has anyone been able to withdraw anything from bter lately? |
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Greg Maxwell has a company called Blockstream which can't start their commercial money transmitting service ("liquid sidechain") until segwit is activated.
His company also has patents for "confidential transactions", but those transactions have huge signatures. That means that the transactions would require large fees to get miners to include them in the blocks. So Greg has added a discount for signature data into segwit. This means that miners who seek to maximize their profits will have to charge fees for signature data which are one fourth as large as the fees for transaction data.
That means that there will be an effective subsidy for Blockstream's patented transactions built into the bitcoin protocol, making regular bitcoin transactions more expensive for the rest of us. This will make Blockstream's patents more valuable.
As you can see, bitcoin's development is now being directed with the goal of enriching one company at everybody else's expense.
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/66sgtz/my_knowledge_of_bitcoin_isnt_great_but_i_own_some/dgkxvix/ |
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ByteBall doing good in google trends..  |
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Could you back your claims up by showing the evidence of a trojan horse? I mean show us the code and explain line by line where you think those soldiers are hiding inside the horse you feel me?
I want to know what happens if everyone start running Core and activate SW? everyone will be on the same boat and they can take advantage of the trojan horse can't they?
But if BU becomes the majority guess who will get the most of it? ASICboost implemented miners, aka Chinese, aka some miners will mine suddenly 6MB blocks taking all the fees and leave slower/ smaller miners empty handed forcing them to mine empty blocks since some powerful pools have taken and included all the transactions.
All I hear about SW from you people is just this "trojan horse" and nothing whatsoever. show me, explain to me like I did about BU and powerful mining pools and ASICboost hard ware.
You have to look at the big picture. See the forest behind the trees. I think this is wisdom. Some people have it some don't. People don't like to admit being wrong. It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled you know. "show me the exact line of code where this is a trojan hose" is the kind of argument like "show me the actual real proof that the illuminati controls the Hollywood". Sort of like hiding your head in the sand and asking for evidence that you know isn't easily available in the first place. You either see it or not. Typically naive people fall for such traps like the SegWit lie because their main argument is "why would they do such a thing?" which isn't really an argument but a lame excuse to continue being naive. Ask yourself these simple questions: Who pays to the Core development team? Who would profit the most from SegWit? Who are the real owners of BlockStream? Are the real owners of BlockStream the good guys or the bad guys? If you knew anything about the globalist agenda and the Bilderberg Group then you would be VERY sceptical about any proposals coming from the Core team / BlockStream. It doesn't take a genius to realize the implications here. Please educate yourself about the REAL behind the scenes global politics because clearly believing the MSM bullshit and a long record of not doing your own research are interfering with your ability to reason and to think critically. |
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Bitcoin Classic failed, Bitcoin Unlimited will inevitably fail due to how determined a large amount of Core supporters are and how many people don't want to signal for either, and since most people are running Core nodes anyway because BU is so buggy now is a great time for some BU miners to give up.
If the bitcoin block size is increased eventually to 8MB or higher, it does not matter if Unlimited fails or not. +1 The difference between the SegWit camp and the BU camp is that the SegWit camp wants Bitcoin for themselves, completely and utterly, to have total authority over the protocol and therefore to dictate consensus (which behind the scene renders miners useless, see Proof-of-Vitalik). The BU camp, on the other hand, does not care whether BU as an implementation becomes the most used or not. For the BU people all that matters is whether we get on-chain scaling or not. Should BU fade away and disappear the big blockers will find or initiate another full node implementation. Supporting the Core dev team and SegWit is the same thing as begging to be governed. Only dumbass sheeple enjoy being governed by some central authority because they are too lazy and stupid to think for themselves. Such people ideologically don't even belong to the Bitcoin community. |
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Some people still don't understand that it's not about SegWit vs BU. It's about the protocol. BU is just ONE particular implementation for an upgraded Bitcoin protocol. It is not special in any way. Attacking the idea of a proper protocol upgrade that would increase the max block size by bringing up the fact that BU has had flaws in its implementation is nonsense. You are being utterly stupid if you think that BU wants to become THE Bitcoin. Such an assumption is based on a fallacy that Core IS THE Bitcoin. It's not, it has never been Bitcoin. Bitcoin is a protocol much like HTML. Just because Firefox renders HTML does not mean HTML belongs to Mozilla. The stupidity is sickening.
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SegWit is like letting Facebook adjust the Bitcoin's protocol "a bit" so that they could open their own payment channel of facebook money on the Bitcoin network. Yes, it's that bad, and so many brainwashed obedient sheeple just don't see it. It's just sad. We have one great thing that truly empowers personal freedom and belongs to the people and we're going to let the same old same old banksters infiltrate and corrupt it. With the same old techniques.
Let them do their bitcoin-based Paypal system. Here's what will happen. Blockstream is going to stick to their guns and Bitcoin will fork. Both sides will make money as the sum of the forks will be a price increase. After the fork, regular users will see that they can't get any transactions done on the SegWit chain because of only having half (or less) of the hash rate and only 1MB blocks. Then people will start selling off their SegWit coins for 'big block' coins, and we'll eventually be back to one bitcoin again. I'm for forking to big blocks right now, but I can understand why miners want to wait. That's good reasoning. I also think that ethereum classic is the one that eventually gets more popular. so even if in the beginning segwitcoin generates more media and might even trade on pretty decent prices it is the losing fork in the long run. and then all those whiners who are still butthurt for not buying bitcoin "when it was cheap" miss the train again by not buying into the big blocks bitcoin when it was cheap. |
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SegWit is like letting Facebook adjust the Bitcoin's protocol "a bit" so that they could open their own payment channel of facebook money on the Bitcoin network. Yes, it's that bad, and so many brainwashed obedient sheeple just don't see it. It's just sad. We have one great thing that truly empowers personal freedom and belongs to the people and we're going to let the same old same old banksters infiltrate and corrupt it. With the same old techniques.
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You are being trolled, 8 mb is approximately 1 MiB because capital B stands for byte but smaller case b stands for bit. 1 byte = 8 bits. Thus 8 mb = 8000000 bits = 0.953674316 MiB so if you agree with this you are actually voting for smaller blocks!!!!!!!!!! edit: even worse, smaller case m stands for milli and upper case M for mega. so you are voting for 8 millibits which does not even exist as a sensible unit in informatics |
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your explanation seems plausible. I think polo is the biggest scammer in this business. They manipulate their own market. And they make their servers lag on purpose during big crashes. But MAID, even though it is a really ambitious project, I'm not going to touch it until they deliver. It's quite stupid to buy into hot air. MAID shouldn't even be trading on popular exchanges such as polo, it is exactly the kind of fairy dust that Bitcoin Unlimited BTU futures are. |
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price is again flirting with gold parity,
I hold both. Ideally BTC achieves parity while gold keeps going UP Yeah right, what a joke article. So now it's the UASF responsible right? But when the price goes down it's because of Bitcoin Unlimited. Biased to the roots, it sickens me to read such BS. |
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BTC doesn't give a shit about the corrupt core dev team, the price goes higher.
In my life I have personally witnessed 4 bitcoin bubbles. The 4th one is currently gaining momentum. We are nearing the ATH, no signs of weakness. SegWit can go fuck itself obviously, we don't even need it nor LN to get to 10k prices.
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Judging by the way MAID devs manipulate the price and always seem to be hungy for more IPO funds and investments while unable to launch their invention for a decade already I can bet that they will implement Proof-of-Vitalik conesnus algorithm for their imaginary SAFE Coin, after which the community is forced to spawn their own MAID Classic. You heard it here first  If I was spewing as much BS as you I'd also be wearing a gasmask. Oh my god did I just piss off a fannboy?! There is definitely manipulation going on in MAID market for quite a long time already. Whether it is by the devs remains a speculation. Everything else I just said is truth. They launched another investment round (hungry for more money). They have been around for almost a decade (longer than Bitcoin). And since they are a profit driven company much like the Ethereum foundation they are most likely doing the same kind of sick anti-freedom shit like reversing transactions to save their investors. |
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Ethically speaking, Blockstream/Core are just about the lowest you can go. Adam Back and Greg Maxwell are poison and have to be eliminated despite their fancy PhD. We can't have a centralized, for profit head of Bitcoin. That is all Blockstream and AXA are trying to bring forth. Time to get a few guys with technical competence and no paycheck from Adam Back to retake over Core. We need a new dev team that would take a name Bitcoin-Core to show the world how stupid it is to follow one particular branch of development as if it was the sole owner of the Bitcoin network. Also that new dev team should implement Flexible Transactions but they should name it SegWit. Sure there will be confusion but there's nothing worth saving in the current core camp. |
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Judging by the way MAID devs manipulate the price and always seem to be hungy for more IPO funds and investments while unable to launch their invention for a decade already I can bet that they will implement Proof-of-Vitalik conesnus algorithm for their imaginary SAFE Coin, after which the community is forced to spawn their own MAID Classic. You heard it here first |
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Africoin, the Core maffia and SegWit fanboys are the bad guys. You have your Live Action Role Play alignments all messed up lol  |
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ATH soon, you heard it here first
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As for this particular thread, since it doesn't directly discuss an alternative client, it's unlikely this thread would have been moved anyway, even under the old rules.
Are you kidding me? They still censor me ALL the time. More than half the stuff I post gets clipped. The forum remains biased. But, I do think their censorship did ultimately have a very bad opposite effect. BU started to get popular when people started to notice en masse that Core was trying to silence the opposing argument. So, I'd have to say they got what they deserved. People who enjoy the philosophy of Bitcoin - don't really care much for things like censorship. PhDs or not, they should have figured that out. Core guys aren't really very good at figuring some things. That's exactly why I started to promote BU and discredit and disrespect Segwit / Core everywhere on the Internet where I go. My topic got moved to altcoins section when I wanted to help to solve the block size problem constructively in the Bitcoin technical forums. For me censorship is like a red towel to a bull. I didn't care much about the debate nor about high TX fees because for me they are not too high and I always use estimateTxFee to get my TXs confirmed in 10 minutes like in the good old times. But censoring me, it's like a personal insult! |
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