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641  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Casascius Roll-Your-Own Physical Bitcoins: Only 0.13 BTC on: July 17, 2012, 01:32:34 PM
Sorry, only denominated coins.  But I do have a non denominated gold plated bar.

Any possibility of some coins with engraved keys? Your coins are not fire proof Sad
642  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: New RetroShare Bitcoin Forum on: July 17, 2012, 01:30:43 PM
No one is ever on Sad
643  Economy / Collectibles / Re: How would you like to design a bitcoin banknote? on: July 17, 2012, 01:12:14 PM
I have still only seen PLAIN TEXT private keys. Can someone work on an AES encrypted solution? One that is not in PLAIN SIGHT?

I am not a designer or I would take a stab at it.

GREAT WORK SO FAR PEOPLE!!!
That's a programming issue for the guy doing the printing program based on these designs. Why bother the designers here.

Well can we get some placeholders? It is easy. Here is an example of an AES encrypted private key.

Public Key
1QJow1aDX17EDWS5WKDzCdtQXxPkPatKTs



Private Key
5JM8AjZ9AtaHaPcbmTEYQVkjkDn89Vmz6u7Vi8D5Thi1Rxf6uwK




Private Key AES 128 bit using Pass Phrase "Marry Had A Little Lamb"
U2FsdGVkX18R7NzIXKPOUMayZy2tM6Vx39Tr8EXcL6HwSy9YYthOwam01wPxAV2j
lmnPgtpRUD18I52ETJElsUgA1U+tgoyNhaiBQqKJuSI=




I don't think kaywa.com gave me the correct codes but you get the idea
644  Economy / Collectibles / Re: How would you like to design a bitcoin banknote? on: July 17, 2012, 01:10:01 PM
I have still only seen PLAIN TEXT private keys. Can someone work on an AES encrypted solution? One that is not in PLAIN SIGHT?

I am not a designer or I would take a stab at it.

GREAT WORK SO FAR PEOPLE!!!
That's a programming issue for the guy doing the printing program based on these designs. Why bother the designers here.

Well can we get some placeholders? It is easy. Here is an example of an AES encrypted private key.

Public Key
1QJow1aDX17EDWS5WKDzCdtQXxPkPatKTs



Private Key
5JM8AjZ9AtaHaPcbmTEYQVkjkDn89Vmz6u7Vi8D5Thi1Rxf6uwK




Private Key AES 128 bit using Pass Phrase "Marry Had A Little Lamb"
U2FsdGVkX18R7NzIXKPOUMayZy2tM6Vx39Tr8EXcL6HwSy9YYthOwam01wPxAV2j
lmnPgtpRUD18I52ETJElsUgA1U+tgoyNhaiBQqKJuSI=


645  Economy / Collectibles / Re: How would you like to design a bitcoin banknote? on: July 17, 2012, 12:42:25 PM
I have still only seen PLAIN TEXT private keys. Can someone work on an AES encrypted solution? One that is not in PLAIN SIGHT?

I am not a designer or I would take a stab at it.

GREAT WORK SO FAR PEOPLE!!!
646  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is there a way to estimate the number of bitcoin users? on: July 17, 2012, 12:40:10 PM
Don't use running clients as a guide. I am sure I'm not the only one who uses BTC without the client because it brings my netbook to it's knees when I try to run it. Instawallet works fine.

I am currently using a thin wallet for day to day operations and a paper wallet for cold storage. I hardly ever have the thin client running unless i need to make a transaction.

Number of hosts connected is not a good way of estimating number of bitcoin users.

Better way is to look at the average number of transactions I would guess and then do some math to figure out certain patterns in the frequency of spending, etc...

Either way the number of bitcoin users doesn't make a difference. It is the stability of the existing users that are important!
647  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Kaspersky poll, vote for Bitcoin on: July 17, 2012, 12:36:35 PM
voted

116 for bitcoin..

Keep it going people! Log into your mom's Facebook account and vote!
648  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins on a Raspberry Pi on: July 17, 2012, 12:35:02 PM
Let me know when one of you built a vending machine or something cool.

On an off-topic thought. Could this run a PirateBox?
649  Economy / Collectibles / Re: How would you like to design a bitcoin banknote? on: July 17, 2012, 12:33:55 PM
Binary border with the middle logo.
Named it paper wallet for this time and put the QR code in the corner so you can fold it over for safety  Wink



The terminology for all these things are still being created but I refuse to call this a paper wallet even though a paper wallet may contain one or more key pairs.

I still think Voucher or Coupon should be used and no one has tried to work these names into a design.

Also keep in mind Bitcoin is NOT a CURRENCY.
650  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Casascius Roll-Your-Own Physical Bitcoins: Only 0.13 BTC on: July 17, 2012, 06:08:48 AM
I like the role your own idea. Do you have any coins without the number of BTC printed on it?

+1
651  Economy / Collectibles / Re: How would you like to design a bitcoin banknote? on: July 17, 2012, 05:47:35 AM
Deeds and Titles are typically government issued.  For lack of a better word, we can call it a "Bitcoin Account".  I've added some different graphics for the elliptic curve crypto and a better background.

Also, since when you import the private key you basically transfer all of the bitcoins in the account, I changed it from "SPEND" to "SPEND ALL".



This design gets better with every iteration. Keep up the good work!

I think "Bitcoin Wallet" is more accurate than "Bitcoin Account". Although an "account" generally implies an ID and password which could be interpreted as public key and private key, in the case of Bitcoin, "Account" is analogous with bank account and/or Bitcoin "Address".

It's not clear (since Bitcoin is unprecedented) but I believe these are the terms we should consider:
1) Bitcoin Wallet
2) Bitcoin Financial Instrument
3) Bitcoin Certificate
4) Bitcoin Bearer Bond

The first two, I feel, are accurate in their own right. A bitcoin wallet is a financial instrument.
I believe an argument could be made for certificate as in "certificate of ownership". The certificate would essentially make you the owner of that bitcoin address but not the owner of any specific amount of BTC.
Similarly, "bearer bond" could be used because whoever is the bearer of that paper has control of that bitcoin address. However, a bearer bond is a debt instrument and bitcoin is not a debt instrument.

Regarding "LOAD & VERIFY" and "SPEND ALL" compared to "ADDRESS" and "PRIVATE KEY". The first set of terms provides some usability for those new to bitcoin it helps them understand what each "number" is for, which is nice :-)

If we look at money from a century ago on Wikipedia we can see that sometimes full sentences appear. We should consider that this type of financial instrument requires instruction to use and re-use and we should consider 1 or 2 URLs be placed on the design, especially bitcoin.org

Also, I wonder what it would look like with a WIF private key instead of mini key.

Bitcoin Variable Voucher
Bitcoin Variable Coupon
652  Economy / Collectibles / Re: How would you like to design a bitcoin banknote? on: July 16, 2012, 06:38:08 PM

I understand the reason for the curve... however I think it distracts from the bill and makes it look un-tidy.

At a glance it looked like someone scribbled pen on it.
653  Economy / Collectibles / Re: How would you like to design a bitcoin banknote? on: July 16, 2012, 01:11:47 PM
So I tried to combine some of the feedback. The size is based on an euro bill this time. There is a lot of going on in this one. Something on the foreground might be a great idea but wanted to share this already.
On the left you got the load/verify qr code and the background is marked with the text: BITCOINCASHBITCOINACH...
Middle is all watermarked with lines and with the BTCitcoin cash 'logo'.
The amount portion is also marked with the BITCOINCASH and lines.
Right side has the other QR code and got some binary code combined with the BTCitcoin cash.
Can easily change the colors of the bill so made some variations.







If you got a idea to add something or delete. Plz share Smiley

Pretty.

We still need to work on the defining labels though Sad
654  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Idea] Mixing service with variable fee based on coin freshness <-- Build this! on: July 16, 2012, 12:44:06 PM
gweedo I PMed you.  Grin
655  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Kaspersky poll, vote for Bitcoin on: July 16, 2012, 12:43:16 PM
Let's keep this post fresh people!
656  Economy / Collectibles / Re: How would you like to design a bitcoin banknote? on: July 16, 2012, 12:42:47 PM
Deeds and Titles are typically government issued.  For lack of a better word, we can call it a "Bitcoin Account".  I've added some different graphics for the elliptic curve crypto and a better background.

Also, since when you import the private key you basically transfer all of the bitcoins in the account, I changed it from "SPEND" to "SPEND ALL".


Is it "SPEND ALL" or "REDEEM" (I could import without spending for a time) ?

Technically when you import you are kinda spending them. I think.

Thoughts?
657  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Idea] Mixing service with variable fee based on coin freshness <-- Build this! on: July 16, 2012, 12:38:24 PM
This is out of my league as a developer but I as a consumer I would be interested.

LMAO 25 of web experience and a bitcoin mixer is out of your league LMAO

@rjk stupid question, why would the freshness of the coins make any different in a mixer? Are you solely going off the part that older coins can be mixed more cause of the low tx fees?

Oh will you stop that! I can CODE the friggin' thing, I just do not have in depth knowledge of what consists of a dirty coin and a clean coin.

Would miners need to be involved? Is taint invoked?

Want to team up?
658  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Kaspersky poll, vote for Bitcoin on: July 16, 2012, 12:35:18 PM
voted
659  Economy / Economics / Re: Gas Prices Falling in the US on: July 16, 2012, 03:34:31 AM
I love these gas prices!  its time to start drivin the v8 again  Cheesy

You are showing your age. I remember when gas was under $2 a gallon!

Let me show my age.  I remember when gas was less than $1/gallon.

I also remember when gas first went over $1/gallon:  People were totally freaked out and thought the world was ending.

My hats off to you sir!

FILL'ER'UP!
660  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Idea] Mixing service with variable fee based on coin freshness <-- Build this! on: July 16, 2012, 03:31:03 AM
No, although they are very close to what I am thinking of. The key part of my idea is the variable fees, with a rebate for brand new coins based on a selection algorithm.

I might add that this probably should have wallet functionality like torwallet, because that means it will be harder to correlate inputs and outputs based on size alone. This correlation could be done with a straight mixing service, even with randomized fees, but having wallet functionality means that customers will be more likely to have a large input and several small outputs, since they can use the wallet to pay people instead of having to launder all the coins at once.

This is out of my league as a developer but I as a consumer I would be interested.
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