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61  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Myanmar coup: The country is now under military rule on: February 04, 2021, 07:59:11 AM

My zero-research take on things is that if the previous bitch was a favorite with the globalists, the people will probably be better served by the military cleaning up things for a while.

If 'exercise instructors' can stop wearing a mask during physical exercise, alone, and outdoors, under the new 'military dictatorship' then it's very solid evidence that the military is more on the side of the peeps than was the previous globalist certified dictatorship.



Just listened to the latest pod save the world and learned a bunch about this.

The 'previous bitch' (Aung San Suu Kyi) was first elected in 1990 with over 80% of the votes after campaigning on making changes to their constitution that would strip some political power from the Military.  So they captured her before the election, nullified the results, and basically locked her in her own home for ~20 years. (they assassinated most members of her party, and prob would of killed her, but it could have caused a revolt as her father was like their version of George Washington)

In 2015 (25 years later) she ran again, and won more than 80% of the vote again.  So this time the Military added a clause to the rules that made her ineligible since her her husband was born in another country.  Instead of locking her up this time, they made a new roll and allowed her to be 'State Counselor' while the Military was able to keep their power while she handled the more public stuff.

Then beginning in 2015-16 there was the whole genocide thing where the Military executed ~25k Muslims, gang raped 18,000 muslim women and children, and burned down ~100k Muslim homes.  Almost 1 million Muslims fled the country.  Mission accomplished.  

In the November 2020 election Aung San Suu Kyi won again by a landslide and then started talking about amending the constitution again.  The Military claimed there was widespread election fraud and despite no evidence to support their claims locked up Aung San Suu Kyi and here we are today.

Fun Fact: Back in 2016 facing enormous pressure Facebook started banning top Military leaders for spreading misinformation that was leading to violence.  Here's a good article about it: A Genocide Incited on Facebook, With Posts From Myanmar’s Military

Quick Aside before I go into the meat of it - How is pod save the world? Been looking into a new podcast that goes in depth into things and it keeps coming up, but curious on what sort of slant I’ll be getting with it.

But in regards to the coup. This is going to lead to a heap of international sanctions that hopefully leads to the downfall of this military that has been disregarding democracy (and democracy by a large margin) for decades upon decades.

I don’t want Western countries to put boots on the ground, cause there’s no need to do so. But it would be very helpful to hit them with a brigade of sanctions on both their country as a whole and top people to try to make them fall from within. Further, it’s important to open up their internet. As the military run government has already shut off access to social media services.’

62  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump for prison. on: February 04, 2021, 05:39:36 AM
Can someone outline these crimes please?

- He's already an unindicted coconspirator in campaign finance charges his lawyer already served prison time for.
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Naming Trump in that case was a political move intended to hurt Trump. The prosecution of Cohen was political, and Cohen decided to become a Trump opponent in order to gain leniency. Bringing this up really removes credibility from your post.



What I said is a fact, actually.  Feel free to dispute it and I'll provide the evidence.

If you think he's innocent or above the law, just say so.  Playing the 'it was political' card over and over removes credibility from all your posts.  You could say that about any politician that commits a crime - it doesn't mean politicians should not be held accountable.  

Depends on the point that they’re trying to argue here. If they’re trying to say that Cohen was targeted due to being close to Trump and the Mueller campaign saw that he could potentially flip on Trump (which he did) — Then I’d say that’s true. I’m pretty sure (don’t quote me) that he wasn’t being investigated prior to the Mueller probe starting.

With this line of thought, then the Mueller probe was the reason for Michael Cohen getting charged with his crimes.

Let me know if that line of thought is wrong, will gladly read some of the stuff on that. Shit feels so long ago now.
63  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Elon Musk's Space X investigated for alleged hiring discrimination on: February 04, 2021, 03:54:57 AM
We really need some changes in immigration by the way, we shouldn’t make it difficult for people who really want to work her to work here. Shouldn’t take some mega tech company in Silicon Valley with lobbying power to be the decision maker in regards to if you have the ability to work here (being sponsored).

I could go on for pages how idiotic legal immigration process is in this country. We're quite literally giving away smart and qualified individuals to other countries that don't have these bullshit barriers. And no, businesses won't be hiring Americans if they can't "import" immigrants... they outsource/offshore, mainly because there aren't enough Americans in certain fields and there aren't enough Americans studying those subjects in college either so this problem will only get worse. Ten years from now we'll be crying about lost technology jobs like we're crying about lost manufacturing jobs.


Pretty extreme example here, but I read the article from Georgia regarding (from sometime ago) about how they made their immigration process so stringent that they had a very hard time getting people to work on their farms. They’d typically relied on undocumented immigrants (yes people that are illegal) to do this work, but when they were forced to be more stringent and tried to hire citizens no one would put up with the work.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/05/27/136718112/georgia-farmers-say-immigration-law-keeps-workers-away

But yeah, our immigration process is horribly dumb. It’s flooded with racism, nationalism, and greedy lawyers who use its complexity to ensure that they continue to have a job as they screw their clients out of whatever money they have while they’re going this through archaic process.
64  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Covid19 Restructured individuals plans on: February 04, 2021, 03:30:07 AM

Restructuring in process (How far to max retardness?)


Hm, pretty sure all the local pools and such near me allow people to swim without a mask / face shield because of the fact that it’s much harder to breathe through a mask when it gets wet. Not sure why people would even consider this as a good idea.

I kinda get the face shield if you’re talking to someone while in the pool, but if you’re swimming around and staying your distance then I’m not sure why this would be necessary.

Got any other info on the picture? Location, etc
65  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump for prison. on: February 03, 2021, 08:18:12 PM
do you think that this is going to lead to him going to prison? I personally highly doubt it. Guy still has a massive amount of influence with the GOP and is going to use that to skirt any potential problems.

Plus the fact that the Biden admin will (IMO) avoid prosecuting Trump because they’re going for the whole unity thing. Trump will most likely be found not guility in his upcoming Senate trial as well.

The question of whether he is or is not guilty of any crimes is moot in terms of a near-term prosecution. There's next to zero chance of him going to prison any time soon. It's not just or even primarily that he has GOP influence... the main obstacle to any prosecution is his huge influence amongst the electorate, and particularly the freedom-lovin', gun-totin' element of the electorate. A Trump prosecution would lead to huge civil unrest, and I'm sure will be judged a price not worth paying.

Same result for the impeachment, too. He won't be convicted (and I've put bitcoin on it). A few GOP senators came out against him after Jan 6th, but voters are fickle and have short memories. Jan 6th is not in the headlines as much now, and the GOP are closing ranks behind Trump.

If any conviction and prison time does happen, it won't be until Trump has lost all support amongst the electorate. Given that he's likely going to remain in the public eye for the foreseeable future, and that he's already in his mid-70s and (probably) quite unhealthy, a prison sentence seems very unlikely.

I 100% agree with everything that was said here. There’s no way that the 30-40% of Americans that are die hard Trumpers are going to be happy with him being brought up on criminal charges and then potentially found guilty. Prosecuting him would only further embolden them to be angry and continue to support him and whoever he endorses.

His impeachment was dead on arrival right when Rand Paul forced the vote and it was shown that the the Dems wouldn’t be able to convince another 10 Republicans to vote with them to remove Trump.

His age is an important factor as well. He’ll most likely be dead before he has to worry about any of this. Plus like, what the hell does prison look like for a former President — does it mean that they’re under house arrest or are they in jail with secret service protection? Plus like, this person has classified information in their head and you want to protect them at all costs.
66  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Elon Musk's Space X investigated for alleged hiring discrimination on: February 03, 2021, 07:18:29 PM
But in regards to this suit — Is there a particular reason that companies wouldn’t hire immigrants and people listed in the groups that you’ve described (minus citizens for a second) not sure what the benefit is to avoid these people (besides personal preference)

Green card vs citizen - basically no difference, except certain government jobs (most federal government jobs really) require citizenship.

No green card - some or lots of paperwork for the business (e.g. to transfer H1-B visa). Some employers punt the cost of it to the employee.

However Space X needs to comply with ITAR requirements as NotATether mentioned, and the paperwork required to get an exception to that is likely much more complicated/expensive/unlikely to succeed than a visa transfer or even sponsoring a new visa.


Ah I see. A much more prevalent issue in Silicon Valley then it would be in the industries that I’ve worked in and worked around.

Article is pointing to the fact that they want to prove that they the burden to comply with certain regulations would be too burdensome. At least that’s what was in the Reuters article. That’s what I assume you’re talking about in the latter portion of this post.

We really need some changes in immigration by the way, we shouldn’t make it difficult for people who really want to work her to work here. Shouldn’t take some mega tech company in Silicon Valley with lobbying power to be the decision maker in regards to if you have the ability to work here (being sponsored).
67  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Joe Biden is President of the United States of America on: February 03, 2021, 06:41:12 PM
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If you're a retail worker, it's not your fault that COVID came in and shut down your job because of government lockdowns.
...

It's the fault of Chinese, and the people who don't want to wear masks, social distance, and resist their vaccines gene therapy trials.  These are the people who are putting us in danger.  They need to be punished and forced into government compliance before they can harm us even more.  It's obviously just self-defense, and the government needs more and better tools to help protect us more.

I'm very glad we have a government which has been able to protect us through their wisdom and foresight.  A brilliant strategy such as wearing TWO masks, one on top of the other, proves that we have had the right man in Tony Fausti at the helm the whole time.  He just needs another few weeks to flatten the curve...and the 99% to get their jabs...then we'll be back to normal.  For sure this time.



Totally agree with this. Depends on what you mean by forced, but fining people for putting others healthes in jeopardy during a crisis situation sounds fair enough with me.

I really don’t understand some people saying things like - ‘damn they’ll make more on unemployment so obviously they don’t want to go back to work’ - That’s just not how unemployment works. If you’re called back to go to work, then you’re going to have to go back to work or you risk losing future unemployment benefits.

This entire situation is so out of regular workers control that it makes zero sense to blame them. Blame congress for giving banks billions in PPP fees while screwing businesses. Blame China for trying to hide Covid from the public and warning people too late. Blame  anti maskers who continue to go out and disregard the rules. But DONT blame individual workers for losing their jobs for something that is crazily out of their control.
68  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Elon Musk's Space X investigated for alleged hiring discrimination on: February 03, 2021, 06:43:47 AM
Found this from Reuters, should probably at least semi back up what Hydrogen is saying:

“Specifically, the charge alleges that on or about March 10, 2020, during the Charging Party’s interview for the position of Technology Strategy Associate, SpaceX made inquiries about his citizenship status and ultimately failed to hire him for the position because he is not a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident”, DOJ attorney Lisa Sandoval wrote in the complaint filed on Thursday.

A person in the USofA can be:

a citizen
a permanent resident (green card), AKA immigrant
a non-immigrant (work visa etc)
an undocumented/illegal/whatchamacallit person

I really doubt that an illegal immigrant (one having no right to work in this country to begin with) would be able to get the DOJ to investigate and nothing in the article supports that.

That's not to say the complaint has merit, just that the assumption "non-citizen/non-green-card-holder => illegal immigrant" is absurd.

Gotcha, just wanted to point out the fact that the complaint was about citizenship status / not something that was just bullshit and made up by people as we p&s regulars know that making stuff up and then sourcing bullshit is a pretty common tactic here for some interesting reason.

Totally support the continued explanation though, totally needed on here. Didn’t want the OP’s argument to get shot down b/c it did have at least a bit to stand on

But in regards to this suit — Is there a particular reason that companies wouldn’t hire immigrants and people listed in the groups that you’ve described (minus citizens for a second) not sure what the benefit is to avoid these people (besides personal preference)
69  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump for prison. on: February 03, 2021, 01:03:42 AM
Can someone outline these crimes please?

- He's already an unindicted coconspirator in campaign finance charges his lawyer already served prison time for.
- He obstructed the investigation into foreign interference in the election he won. (up to 10 different obstruction felony charges have been outlined)
- He likely used the office of president for personal gain (emoluments)
- He threatened/begged the Georgia Sec of State to 'find him' enough votes to win the state after being told he did not have enough votes. (I think there are 2 state laws and 2 federal he could be charged with for this)
- He incited a violent insurrection.
- It looks pretty clear that he committed a ton of bank and tax fraud before he took office.

I'm probably missing a few things.

Curious though, do you think that this is going to lead to him going to prison? I personally highly doubt it. Guy still has a massive amount of influence with the GOP and is going to use that to skirt any potential problems.

Plus the fact that the Biden admin will (IMO) avoid prosecuting Trump because they’re going for the whole unity thing. Trump will most likely be found not guility in his upcoming Senate trial as well.
70  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Myanmar coup: The country is now under military rule on: February 03, 2021, 12:56:41 AM



'Chaos' in the White House as Biden administration officials argue over whether to call Myanmar military takeover a 'coup' over fears they will
anger China
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9213225/Biden-threatens-Myanmar-sanctions-administration-debates-calling-military-takeover-coup.html

Wouldn’t say that the DailyMail is the best source, but still. We already have an update on the matter.

Biden admin has already declared that this is a coup, meaning that the country will lose any aid from the US. - Not like they got much aid in the past, but it’s still frozen. Next few days will show what the admin wants to do in terms of China and this new cold war that we may be entering.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-admin-designates-myanmar-militarys-takeover-coup-dtat/story?id=75620156
71  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Joe Biden is President of the United States of America on: February 03, 2021, 12:40:21 AM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-relief-democrats-1-9-trillion-plan/

Helloooooo to massive inflation, everybody. In case you are doubting diversifying any investments into crypto, let a 1.9 TRILLION dollar bill serve as motivation.

This would include unconditional 1.4k checks and unemployment supplements. On a side note, if an American is unemployed still after nearly one year of COVID 19, isn't that their fault for being a moron?

Probably not going to be the catalyst for massive inflation. I know that’s not a popular thing to say in crypto world, though that’s just the reality of the situation.

Most people aren’t spending money now, which means that inflation would typically be lower then normal. Due to this, the influx of money into the economy isn’t going to spiral us out of control. We’ll be in the normal range of 2-3% inflation for this time period.

If you have an issue with the amount of debt, or amount of debt as a percentage of GDP then that’s one thing. But people saying that we’re going to be like the Weimar republic soon is crazy (not saying you did, just a common thing for people to make outlandish claims for the future)

72  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Elon Musk's Space X investigated for alleged hiring discrimination on: February 03, 2021, 12:36:14 AM
It seems they're saying its illegal or immoral for Space X to not hire someone on the basis of them being an illegal immigrant.

It seems that you made it up. Where does it say that the person was an illegal immigrant or an immigrant at all?

Found this from Reuters, should probably at least semi back up what Hydrogen is saying:

“Specifically, the charge alleges that on or about March 10, 2020, during the Charging Party’s interview for the position of Technology Strategy Associate, SpaceX made inquiries about his citizenship status and ultimately failed to hire him for the position because he is not a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident”, DOJ attorney Lisa Sandoval wrote in the complaint filed on Thursday.

Seems that this particular case is about them inquring into if the candidate was a US citizen and at the end of the process the person didn’t get the job. Which lead to the net portion regarding discrimination.

During this investigation they’ll try to find if this is a pattern of behavior at SpaceX or just a one off incident. Not sure on the legality or laws surrounding it, but thought I’d help out here.
73  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] WILL TRUMP BE ELECTED TO A SECOND TERM? on: February 03, 2021, 12:28:13 AM

Sigh, now we’re having arguments about this.

Does the authorization of the President to sign something on his behalf mean that what he has authorized is not allowed? - https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2011/05/27/136724009/obamas-autopen-signing-of-patriot-act-raises-eyebrows-has-unlikely-ally

I’d think that’s a stretch. Highly doubt people would risk legislation being able to be shot down for something so simple as a signature if there isn’t judicial approval for this measure.
74  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Myanmar coup: The country is now under military rule on: February 02, 2021, 05:21:34 PM
Don’t worry — if this was a country with a large amount of oil reservers, the US and their allies would already have boots on the ground to ensure that the next government is friendly towards the West.
The US is okay with middle eastern countries having dictatorships so long as they supply oil to the West.


It appears the military has its own political party and has candidates that run for office. This really means the military was always in control. It is important for the military to be non-political to avoid these types of situations.

Heh, yeah. Doesn’t matter what you do to your people if you just keep the West happy and keep pointing to populists threats as a way to keep the support around from the West — at least in the ME that’s the case.

Military does have its own political party over there, but they had a pretty horrible showing in the most recent election which is what sealed the fact that they were going to attempt a coup — which they did, successfully.
75  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Joe Biden is President of the United States of America on: February 02, 2021, 07:06:31 AM
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/09/republicans-marjorie-taylor-greene-392735 - They did kinda try to force her out by saying that her rhetoric was disgusting, though didn’t do much more about it — this is because they didn’t want to alienate the hard line conservative voters from coming out in November.

That's the thing, if GOP wanted to nip this in the bud they should have done this during primaries. Her district is bright red, any other GOP candidate would have won it easily, so this was utterly pointless and totally self inflicted.


Totally self inflicted, could have stopped her but that would’ve been too logical and easy to do. Why do that when you can have the SmL come out and say that a sitting GOP representative is a ‘cancer’ on the party. That was just said today by the way, lol.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/01/us/politics/mitch-mcconnell-marjorie-taylor-greene.html

Endorsements from Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows, and so on and so forth helped her out. I don’t think she got an endorsement from Trump in the primary but totally got one in the general.
76  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Joe Biden is President of the United States of America on: February 02, 2021, 05:26:32 AM
Plenty republicans I've seen are on board with condemning Greene

Really, who? I've heard a lot of noise from the GOP about Liz Cheney but not much about Green... other than from Rob Portman I think, who realized he can't win the primary in fucking Ohio of all places. Maybe Romney said something too, he usually does, and he's not up for reelection for another 4 years so he can probably stay RINO for a little while until he needs to decide if he's a trumpling or... retiring LOL.



Steve Scalise was one. I think he might have even supported her opponent during the election. There were a few others, but Scalise was the most outspoken and ofc he’s the minority whip.

R’s are taking the approach of being silent because it’s bad publicity obviously. That being said, I hope republicans are all on board with kicking her ass to the curb when it’s time.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/09/republicans-marjorie-taylor-greene-392735 - They did kinda try to force her out by saying that her rhetoric was disgusting, though didn’t do much more about it — this is because they didn’t want to alienate the hard line conservative voters from coming out in November.

Interesting times for establishment people going forward - you don’t want to lose these hardline voters because they are the reason that you won in 2016, but these same people give you horrible PR with the Capitol shit and make it difficult to have the GOP be palatable to moderates.

You’d think that Trumps support would already be gone, but the McCarthy meeting shows that the GOP still BADLY needs Trump and his voters to win midterms.
77  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Let’s talk about Section 230—and how best to stop the tyranny of Big Tech on: February 02, 2021, 02:44:35 AM
I can tell you what bitcointalk.org would do if section 230 were completely removed overnight: The Marketplace sections would be closed; signatures would be removed; altcoin/token promotion of any kind would probably be banned; and a lot of rules would need to be added. It's not that the forum would clearly be liable for eg. marketplace scammers or libel by forum members -- anyone bringing a case to that effect would have a good chance of losing --, but all of this stuff would create such a huge attack surface for lawsuits that the legal defense costs would end up amounting to tens of millions of dollars, and potentially much more if the forum were to actually lose even one of the hundreds of lawsuits which would be incoming. The scope of the forum would have to be reduced to something that could actually be reasonably defended, rather than the current near-universal scope.

What do you think are the odds that Section 230 is repealed or changed to such an extent that bitcointalk would need to undergo any changes in terms of allowable content?

Given the fact that Congress overrode Trumps veto of the Defense bill because of the section 230 threat I’d say that the likelihood of this actually getting through Congress is slim to none.

There’s totally a chance of some regulatory oversight into big tech, maybe in the realm of privacy, data collection, or something along those lines.

But I’d assume that big tech has enough lobbying power to stop a section 230 repeal, even if there’s enough information on the Conservative led Trump side to convince some people that it’s a good idea.
78  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Myanmar coup: The country is now under military rule on: February 01, 2021, 10:04:33 PM
We are living in 2021 and still things like this are happening. It's very sad and I pray for the people of Myanmar. The military should never be in charge of a hole country, nothing good is coming from that. And the ones suffering the most are going to be the citizens. We need the UN to step up and pressure Myanmar for a peaceful transition of power.

Horrible to see things like this still happening in 2021, but it’s expected that some areas will be forgotten about and disregarded because the elites don’t see a reason to protect the people that are currently in power.

Don’t worry — if this was a country with a large amount of oil reservers, the US and their allies would already have boots on the ground to ensure that the next government is friendly towards the West.

Curious on what the UN does with it’s massive budget. Maybe I’m just a pessimist though.
79  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Joe Biden is President of the United States of America on: February 01, 2021, 09:47:49 PM
Anyways, yeah -- she's actually crazy. Perhaps the first mentally unstable woman elected to congress.

I could see Marjorie Greene actually being removed from Congress at some point before her term is over.  She's a bad look for Republicans, expulsion could end up being a good play politically and she's got enough crazy in her that she will likely give them a good reason to do it.  I'm thinking something involving loaded guns inside the Capital.

I doubt both of these statements. This is mainstream Republican ideology now and as long as she keeps repeating how she supports Trump she should be safe. It would be far worse politically for Republicans to try to remove her.

She totally won’t get removed. She may get bad committee assignments or maybe not as much funding from the party, but I’d expect that her approval rating within her district — which is heavily RED — is high, given her anti establishment support + loving Donald Trump.

She can probably even use any things that leadership says about her / does to her in terms of funding / assignments as a way to spin the fact that she’s anti establishment.
80  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Republicans fracturing into 3 different factions on: February 01, 2021, 06:49:33 AM
HmL McCarthy and Donald Trump met today, showing that the Republican party can’t really depart from Trump yet as the voters won’t allow them to do so.

LOL there you go, not even a month after the widely condemned attack on the Capitol and they're back to kissing Trump's ass... even though he lost them the Senate.

He lost them the Senate, but he is the reason for their gains in the House — which they know. Plus like, this isn’t normal in the sense of Republican voters still heavily backing Trump even though he isn’t the President anymore and he lost.

Typically when you lose you fade off into obscurity b/c your approval rate drops — Trumps did, but only heavily dropped among moderates and dems, not among Republican voters.

At least we’re living in historic times, right?
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