Round 3

Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts
Category : Information, Opinion, & Good Reply
Section : Gambling

Re: Luck and skill, which is more important for gambling success?
Category : Information, Opinion, & Good Reply
Section : Gambling Discussion

Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes
Category : Information, Opinion, & Good Reply
Section : Gambling Discussion

Re: Rollbit Stealing $22k and Banning my Account
Category : Opinion & Good Reply
Section : Scam Accusations

Re: Is this a good advice?
Category : Information, Advice, Opinion, & Good Reply
Section : Gambling Discussion

Next time OP when you're talking about the mind being opened, just say that they're mind is being opened to new possibilities, forehead doesn't sound nice and it's not exactly implying that you are talking about your mind. It's good to know that a lot of people are still having their hard life being relieved even just a little with the help of bitcoin, apparently the worry of some that the whales taking over bitcoin is misplaced and not true because it seems that people are still able to get into bitcoin.
I'm from SEA too and I am lucky enough to not live below the poverty line but I am almost nearing the line. I can tell you why bitcoin isn't popular among the many poor in the region, it's probably because of the obvious fact that most people from the poverty line and below don't really have the time to invest and most of them don't have any phone or device that they can use to help them navigate the bitcoin space and bitcoin related platforms and they're not really the kind of people that you want to invest for the long term because they don't have the ability to do that or even be able to do that because they need all the money that they can get and investment is the last thing on their minds.

Not doing well is an understatement, did you know that they're demolishing high-rise condominiums because they've built too many buildings for housing and they end up not having a lot of people buying those properties and now the real estate industry in China is on debt I think. Not to mention that the corruption in the country is just going up right now and so the buildings that are being built end up being tofu dregs and substandard that it's really difficult to find a secure and safe building. There's more to this housing crisis in China, this is probably a sign that the current Chinese regime is falling apart because they all own the real estate in the country.

Here's some helpful videos that are exposing what's happening in China right now.

I don't think they do, the government owns the land and the people who "buy" the land are just leasing it from the government so I don't know if they can still charge property tax from leasing.

I forgot about the part that they can do that if they added to their terms and conditions but yeah I know that, I work with data so I know that there's some level of user information that we share because we need to do statistics on our products and services. I am speaking from experience here and I am telling you, that most offices or workplaces that I've been into don't have that strict measure with their data, the only security they have is the clearance of the employees that will use the computers so I wouldn't say that with confidence that data is handled carefully. Also, if you know a thing or two about social engineering basics, you would probably held the threat of hacks and data mishandling with highest regard because it's sneaky at best. Your last question is a conundrum because if they're really paranoid then there's no way that they would've done that KYC verification in the first place, they wouldn't even think twice not doing the verification, they would just leave.

With what you're saying, I think this phrase isn't a real thing and might just be altogether a lie itself because I still can't believe that someone thinks that gambling is a way to make a steady income. I mean how can this be exactly true? Gambling makes you challenge the odds in hopes that you're going to get a reward but steady income like a job? I don't think this is ever true so maybe that's the reason why I can't believe it because OP is lying that this is a thing that gamblers believe but then again if there's really a gambler out there that thinks like this about gambling I don't know what to say to them, maybe I'm appalled thatthey think about gambling that way?

That's not how percentage and probability works, it doesn't work like a queue where you sift through enough in the queue then you will end up getting the jackpot, I think that it's best to quote Dr. Who in here to explain probability.


What I mean here is that it's not a queue but more like a sphere where there's no definite or absolute pattern but then anything is possible, meaning to say that you can hit the jackpot in the first hit or you can never hit it until you exhausted all of the possibility. Of course lowering the chances is a business tactic but staying with the reference, it's just going to make the big ball of stuff much bigger but doesn't discount from the fact that you can still hit the jackpot first try.
That's where you're wrong, that's not a fact but a fallacy most likely, have you heard of Gambler's Fallacy? It's when the person believes that there's a hidden pattern in something that's completely random but they still go for it because it's better to believe the fallacy rather than accept it.

If putting your bitcoins in a custodial wallet is already a risky thing to do, imagine doing that in your betting account, it's actually much more riskier since you might be tempted to spend that money in bets or games in your account compared to the custodial wallets where there's really no risk besides that it's not your coins since you don't have the key to the wallet. You're going to get far more when you consider using non-custodial wallets or cold wallets to store your money if it's in bitcoin because that way you know where your money is and you know that you are the one responsible for it and it's probably safer since you have all the access to it. Nothing wrong with leaving some money here and there but storing everything on that account is ridiculous because what's going to happen to you if that casino or betting site suddenly closed? You're going to be left with no money and you are the sucker in that deal.

In a way it's true because how were they able to keep the business afloat for so long when they're really not making that much profit due to their generous promotions right? If that was really the case they would've made something about it early on and they should've talked to their customers about it so they won't be surprised about it. If this is really the sign, I just hope that people that have been playing there or have their money stored hopefully can get out their money before it's too late for them, with the multiple scam accusations about them recently I would probably think twice letting my money stay there.
Did they explicitly said that they are going change or that they've given their players some sort of early warning that there's going to be a change in their casino? Because if they did then it's in their right to do it and have the people just go with the new rules but if it's not then they fucked up because people are surprised about the changes and they weren't even probably considered or consulted about the changes.

Well, it's obvious that it's difficult to make money in gambling, it's not 'perhaps' but it's the reason that they are gambling, the allure of easy money and instant fortune is just too tempting for them to not test their luck, I don't agree though that they are the kind of people that will realize all of that, they're likely to just brush it off and call it a day and then gamble again, I am sure that's what most gamblers who think like that are going to do.

I don't even know how these phrase even exist "Gambling is not a steady income have", I don't know how that can be a possibility that can happen, maybe if you are regular poker player or blackjack player that can keep a decent win streak to keep going but those two possibilities I've given it's unlikely that someone really does it. It's kinda weird that people even say it because it's never been a steady income haven in the first place.

Now this is what I am more familiar although I hear this not being used in the context of gambling but more on risk you take in life in general. The follow up I've been familiar of it in a way because I've heard it being used back then in a TV ad back then where they give away a million in Philippine peso if you join their raffle game where you put in as much entry as possible so you get higher chances of winning. Now regarding what OP is describing, I can somehow understand where these gamblers who scold him about quitting too early, they think that if you play more, you will eventually hit the jackpot, maybe they've experienced this before so they think that it's true but in reality it's most likely just a coincidence and they don't know how to explain what just happened to them. If I was given that advice, I'd probably just shrug it off and say something snarky and a bit self-depreciating like "I am not as lucky as you are".

That question crossed my mind before but no I never answered it with anything other than a no, I can't really blame others for introducing me to gambling because it makes me go to the place where I avoid the responsibility when I should've been the one that's responsible for my actions. And another thing is that I can't blame the person who introduced me to gambling since I've forgotten his name and face anyway, I guess it's a good thing that it's gone that way. Probably should be thanking them because gambling's been a part of my journey in life and it's a probably a dull journey if there was no gambling that I've done in my life.

The information is incomplete so I don't think that you are an addict based on your description, if you were addicted, you would've made sure that your gambling habit becomes a priority and you are finding ways to make sure you have money to satisfy your gambling habits but it seems to me that you have the discipline to be able to stop whenever you want to and you even control yourself to the point that you are only betting according to your financial status so I think that you're doing just fine and you're not an addict, at least in my book. You're just a fully aware casual gambler that's concerned that you're going towards addiction, that's the best that I can explain what's happening to you.

As for me, never been a gambling addict because I am too poor and stingy with my money that I don't spend it too much on pleasures of life and instead just use most of it to pay the bills and save the remaining money by accumulating bitcoin, that's about what I do so I don't get addicted, maybe when a friend comes over and we want to have some fun then betting or poker is played together while cracking a cold one.

No, they've tried to do what the FedEx CEO did when their company is on the verge of bankruptcy, it's their own fault that they've put their priorities in a crooked line so why am I shouldering the burden and is obligated to help them rebuild their own mishaps? I think people are getting it easier nowadays when it comes to consequences so they do stupid stuff like this one and then try to make it everyone's problem when it's clearly their fault. If I ever come across that kind of person, I would probably laugh on their faces because they've made an avoidable mistake, why let me in on your problem? I don't even know you.

If you already have that feeling that there's less chance of making a steady income in gambling, what's the point of this thread then? I guess for the sake of confirmation of your bias probably but I think if you use your common sense or logic, you would probably already formed some sort of conclusion that gambling is obviously supoosed to make the players lose more money more than winning them because the house don't want that to happen because they bank on the fact that there's more losers than winners in their casinos. With all the things that you've said about gambling in moderation and other obviously right thing to do when you are gambling, I don't think disagreeing would be the logical thing to do.

Of all that have replied, you've done the most neutral although most skeptical take on this topic. I do think that signals are too good to be true and I do think like most of the replies that premium signals are a waste of money and they're definitely selling it not to help anyone, of that last part I am sure. Now, I've seen that most of replies are a no, now I am curious as to who's on the opposite side: the people that are paying for signals. I want to know what's on their mind and why do they do what they do and if they are really getting a profit from their trade with the help of premium signals.

Threat won't be enough, I think that OP should just straight up file the lawsuit, pretty sure that a threat is easily brushed off and I don't think that you're going to have a hard time doing a back and forth inquiry with threats of lawsuit so you're better off doing the lawsuit because a subpoena will definitely make them lose their minds and if they don't answer to it then the exchange will lose more than just the 100k that they've stolen from OP, and the actual lawsuit happening instead of threatening increases your chances that you will get more money and if they fight it even if the exchange itself know that they're in the wrong then they're going to pay more to OP besides the legal fees. So don't threaten them with a lawsuit, file it already.

You're selling something that's legitimate so why do you have to move that money through Rollbit first? Why not just go directly towards your wallet? What's scaring you? And with @Rollbit Razer's reply regarding this issue, you are in hot water right now which is going to be bad for your case. Either you're going to cooperate fully in all of this investigation or you and @Rollbit Razer will have a long talk about settling this case because you are suspected of a crime and I get that they don't want to be conplicit in case you're guilty. How the hell people are still putting a lot of money in gambling sites knowing there's a risk of being locked out of their account? I hope that your issue will be resolved and let this be a lesson for you to not do this kind of blunder again.

I did my due diligence and researched and it's the second time that it's been hosted like this, the way you say it though it sounded like you aren't sure that there's another multiple host for the World Cup. I mean, the first one is just Japand and South Korea so I don't see how can it be a multiple countries right? You shouldn't have quoted my reply dude, you didn't answer any of the questions that I've got.

A little pattern recognition would probably help you, if you suspect that someone's using an AI, just use all the AIs available for you to see if you can replicate the result and see some correlation, there's not much up to date AIs out there so you're investigation is easy. It's not impossible to prove that someone's using AI, more like tedious and full of coercion because you've got to make them admit they're using AI. You're right that it's not going to give you the win easily but you also said it ups your chances so it's a win to me if I can get an edge on the casinos.
For now, I would agree that you're goddamn right about AI's usefulness in terms of making bets but give it time, I believe that AI technology will continue to grow so I am sure that this kind of prediction for bets will be an easy thing for an AI to do, it's learning as I type this right now and it will continue to accumulate information about everything until it's perfected. You don't need to have AI to predict outcomes for slot machines, I believe there's a device for you to do that or something that foces the machine to give you the win.

Yes, as much as you want to believe in luck, my point still stands that it's out of your control. I get what you're on to about luck but boy you defended your point so bad because I don't see how you're trying to poke holes in my argument that luck isn't a thing that you need to have with gambling. Sure you can pray all you want but like all prayers out there, it's going to fall in deaf ears my guy. The lack of skill can be honed meanwhile luck isn't something that can't be quantified, we just don't have the proper explanation for it with the combination of probability and so we just go for luck.
A skill is something that you can improve, you can't improve your luck even if I say it's a real thing. Do you believe that if you get them horsehoes and four leaf clover, it will improve your luck? Of course the pros are still losing money, it's gambling, the skill part doesn't mean that you've got the game by the balls, there's things that's out of their hand and what game are these pros are you talking about because if it's not something like blackjack or poker, I would be laughing at you.