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4001  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Zclassic, Zcash Fork No Premine, No 20% Founders Tax on: July 11, 2017, 12:31:36 PM
I have told you. This bubble fueling of crypto was too big to not fail.
Thus, ZCL will be under pressure, because it was actively traded on bittrex - where bots, will be lowering price if there is no demand.
So yeah... 1$ now, and we are right now under 50k sats, even lower than thought.
Yea it was obvious the price would go down to 1$, i guess it will go down even more now. Now when btc has started a downtrend alts are going down even more, a lot of people will lose a lot of money.

Exactly.During this time all coins are in a downward trend.Let's see what will happen?

Well let's hope the time of upward trend starts soon, I'm expecting a lot from ZCL as I bought a lot of it when it was at 0.005 BTC. Currently I'm having less than 10% of BTC of what I invested.

But, I'm pretty sure that this price of ZCL won't last long, should bounce back a lot.
4002  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Zclassic, Zcash Fork No Premine, No 20% Founders Tax on: July 10, 2017, 12:13:23 PM
It's a little sad, that it's and under pressure, even zen had a little jump while zcl was still going down.
I have sold my a few zcl at 125.000 satoshi and wait to see if it's right price to buy in. Sill it's under pressure, till 50.000 it can be like that. I wonder if we will go under the price when ZCL was annouced as a new zen fork, hope not.

i really doubt it can go that low, i think on that day someone just panicked, dumped what they had and ate all the buy support.
ZCL is a slow accumulate and wait type of coin lol.


Im also going to throw some more hash behind this, i can only see it grow as eth gets nearer pos.

LAST PRICE on bittrex
1.56$ 0.00061781BTC

Any thoughts? I had a little ZCL, when I have reformatted my HDD, but now I don't even regret, I tried to recover it, but not worth hassle anymore.

Still I have faith for it, but when bubble pops, which we can see now (I think), it will make great disaster too all altcoins.
what bubble m8?
zcl if 10btc worth is sold on trex now it goes down about 15%
if 10btc worth of zcl is bought now it goes up 100%

this is accumulation phase we are @ with zcl
(lols im watching you mr 35k zcl dude)

Bubble of all altcoins, I don't said that's a case to ZCL. ZCL will go up, but I will see the price action for now, but I will enter certainly in coming days I think.
yea agree, i suppose alot are in bubbles, but not all,
some have been gaining genuine adoption due to the yrs of hard work from the devs that never gave up, even during the hard times.
Im keeping an eye on zcl, i got a few plans  Wink  just need to wait it out and ive got plenty of time  Smiley

ZCL is not in bubble in any way, it is way under-valued right now.

I'm seeing doubling of its value at least in coming week if not tripling.
4003  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Zclassic, Zcash Fork No Premine, No 20% Founders Tax on: July 05, 2017, 10:36:23 PM
Is there still somebody around here except for me who bought ZCL at 0.005 BTC and now just hoping that price will get up to that place once again? Roll Eyes
Current value stands at 0.00083 BTC. Lets see if it can go up by 600% any time soon.
You are not only one who believe this can surprise us with sudden rise. Whales probably waiting for good news, till then miners dumping it.
im averaging down with this ...i still think something good will come from this long term
& i think its quite cheap considering there is only around 1.6mill ZCL just now
More than cheap, this is very depressing price best time for accumulation..Yes it is very risky, but reward will be very satisfactory

should still prove to be a good outcome ... sooner or later.

c'mon devs let's see some action.

meanwhile mr. whalebot on the coin...it's supposed to be going the OTHER DIRECTION lulz  Lips sealed

Well that's for sure, it is extremely under-rated right now. It should be getting a great jump soon, I'll wait for 10x jump!  Wink
4004  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: July 02, 2017, 01:08:32 PM
I thought Indian batting is strong and will try to make a high score to defend but looks like Pakistan women's team is similar to men's team, bowling pretty well. Hopefully India will win this.
This was expected before the match but now the Pakistan women just bowled out India for just 169 runs and it looks like it is just a repeat of the recent India Vs Pakistan in the final of the ICC tournament. Tongue It is a game for Pakistan to win chasing a low score.

It'd have been better if India had been all out at 158 runs. Grin
4005  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Zclassic, Zcash Fork No Premine, No 20% Founders Tax on: July 01, 2017, 01:39:22 PM
Is there still somebody around here except for me who bought ZCL at 0.005 BTC and now just hoping that price will get up to that place once again? Roll Eyes

Current value stands at 0.00083 BTC. Lets see if it can go up by 600% any time soon.
4006  Economy / Speculation / Re: should i buy or sell today on: June 27, 2017, 11:43:12 AM
Actually buying/selling bitcoin for USD isn't as much profitable as altcoin trading.

If your budget for trading is low, altcoin/btc trading is a much better choice.
4007  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: June 26, 2017, 07:52:30 PM
Australia's current women cricket team is as good as the Australian team of 2003, with Gilchrist, Ponting, Symonds and other awesome cricketers.

Probably going to win this tourney, with ease.
4008  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin transaction fees fair? on: June 26, 2017, 07:43:39 PM
By 2015 the price of bitcoin is only about $ 250 and transaction fee of 0.0001 bitcoin. Whereas at this year bitcoin prices have reached $ 2300 and have a fee of 0.001. So do you think it is fair? Of course Smiley

The major traffic seems to have resolved now but mate, the thing you're saying is not what people are complaining. If I had to make a $5 transaction using bitcoin in 2015, I would have paid the 0.0001 BTC ($0.025 only), but now if I've to make $5 transaction, I've to pay 0.001 bitcoin, which is $2.3. So the problem is, there's a big difference in $0.025 and $2.30.
4009  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin sucks! on: June 26, 2017, 05:03:34 PM
Actually instead of using bitcoin as a payment processor, OP used it as a short-term investment. Short-term investment is always risky, you can either get a good profit or good loss.

Suggestion for OP, try instant conversion to your local currency after each usage of bitcoin, that should help you out.
4010  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 26, 2017, 04:46:33 PM
That is why i dont suggest anyone bitcoin as a long term Investment.

PS:Let only me Speculate... Wink

Why? I've bought my bitcoins at $24. Now they are x100. I'm quite happy with my long term investment. This is my argument. What is yours?

Ignore him.

The best long-term investment is & would remain bitcoin, undoubtedly and proven before.
4011  Economy / Speculation / Re: True or false: Ethereum is a bubble, bitcoin is not on: June 26, 2017, 12:34:20 PM
Both are in bubbles, but Ethereum is in big one while bitcoin is in small one. As soon as they'll burst, bitcoin might climb down to $1500 but Ethereum will go all the way downhill to $100.
4012  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: June 26, 2017, 11:05:04 AM
There are many more great players ( Mostly all-rounders) in WI but they don't represent their country because WI cricket board doesn't pay much . Pollard , Bravo , Gayle are world class players who have the ability to change the course of the match but its too sad to see them not play .

Yeah, they have such great players and it looks like the cricket enthusiasm in WI is not so high and appreciated which is why mostly their stadiums are empty or half filled even for big tournaments. That's the reason they are missing out on great players and taking newbies. This match should be an eye-opener for them and they should change their strategy now to atleast manage with the players they have in the team. Now only 3 matches left and if they lose 2, they have lost the series.

That's really, really sad to see.

I remember when the last time WI played against Pakistan, their key players left the team in dust and went to India to play IPL.
4013  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 26, 2017, 10:59:36 AM
i was scared when i saw the btc price going down today. then i checked this:

https://www.coingecko.com/de

all crypto is going down. this turbulence will drag btc with it, but only due to some weak hands panicking.

so nothing to worry.

bitcoin will keep rising.

Well whenever bitcoin's value decreases, the alts get a decrease too, and that's what happening right now.

Currently, according to Poloniex:

Bitcoin now stands at $2400 while ETH at $250. Pretty nice decreases.
4014  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin transaction fees fair? on: June 26, 2017, 12:32:24 AM
Fees have definitely evolved and there is so much evidence to show that it has no correlation with price. Two days ago, the network was BELOW 2,000 transactions and I would have loved to test a 5 sat/byte tx but was unable to access my wallet then.

But today, I made a transaction with 35.9 sats/byte and it confirmed in exactly 60 minutes - at a time when there were about 11,000 transactions. I paid about $0.47 cents for almost $900. That's just over 0.05% of my total. I chose a time that the network was relatively free, I chose to transact one chunk rather than several. And my fee corresponded to those environments.

https://blockchain.info/tx/ab7b64a65de124ef55c2e09747a9c8dc433af8d4097cba8acf8d5469edbb8610

That's fair to me by any measurement.

Yes! That I felt today as well! Awesome speed today, unlike last few months.

My $500-worth bitcoin transaction having just $0.4 fee got three confirmations within the time span of one and a half hour. Quite good speed, specially if you compare that with the speed in last few months.
4015  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum: Good alt or stay away? on: June 26, 2017, 12:29:49 AM
Ethereum currently resisting at 0.11 BTC, it seems like a little dump before big recovery.

Currently I'd say, it should be worth it to buy right now! Grin
4016  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think are the biggest disadvantages of Bitcoin? on: June 26, 2017, 12:20:32 AM
The biggest disadvantage of bitcoin is its instability. It is good for speculators but serious investors it is a problem. All holders of bitcoins like that the price is increasing, but it always can not continue and sooner or later it can lead to falling prices and then lose all the money.
I think that's an advantage of bitcoin. Fluctuating prices that make bitcoin different from others. With fluctuating prices there are many users who can make a profit. Although the risk is quite large. But I think the user would prefer a fluctuating price

I agree with you, the fluctuating price of bitcoin is an advantage for me because it is dumping and pumping and if you are an active trader and if you are aware of those circumstances then you can make money from it because you just need to have a great timing in buying from a dump or dip then selling it for a pump and just repeat the cycle to make money.

And currently that cycle is repeating so many times, creating a heck of opportunities for profitable trading.

The repeating cycles are currently not only at BTC, but also at Monero, Ethereum, etc.
4017  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin die soon? on: June 26, 2017, 12:17:39 AM
Delay of bitcoin delivery is a common thing nowadays. Many people are experiencing similar things. In order to handle this we can increase the fee in every bitcoin delivery.
Yeah all bitcoin users are very concerned about this. The longer confirmation time can really make bitcoin set aside from the best money transfer or best payment method. I hope this can be resolved soon. So can use low fee but confirmation stay fast? Is it possible?


That's not possible, at least not right now. We've got to find out a solution for that.

But we should remember that may cause some trouble for bitcoin, however it won't die due to this issue.
4018  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: June 26, 2017, 12:13:02 AM
The true essence of altcoin trading is that, its quite possible to double or even triple your investment within a short time span.

Its your luck and experience, the only two things you need. Smiley

But best strategy to stick with is, you should know that you can either have a profit or loss, if you get a loss, don't end up the trading, make it your experience.
4019  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: June 25, 2017, 08:38:34 PM
India is most probably going to win the match, Hope is pretty good batsman of WI though.

But still, Indian players are still not at all happy, they're going to see Pakistanis in nightmares for few months at the least. Grin
4020  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: If you only got to invest in one altcoin which one would you choose? on: June 25, 2017, 08:35:48 PM
ZCL...

I see some good potential in the coin, and its pretty cheap right now. The copycat of ZCash but without 20% founders stupid funds.
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