Anyone else not get a payout today?
F no, I got a GREAT payout today...  No kidding. 0.0214 BTC/MH/day yesterday for me. Previous days have been pretty good too really, and balance is already well up for today as well. Happy++ |
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But you do realize you are supporting a coin that in a few months will be unsustainable.
It is what I like to call FOTM coin.
I have no clue which coins I'm actually mining, I am interested in getting BTC. People with BTC seem interested to give it to me in exchange for whatever I'm mining. The BTC network can do without me, 2 petahash? It just makes investing in SHA ASIC miners look pretty unattractive is what I'm saying. |
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I'm shopping for a rig now, I figure that I can use it for other coins if things go badly with btc, I would love to be mining doge right now - I'm tempted by the fact you can swap coins easily as the market dictates.
But how long until guys with BTC stop trying to make more BTC by manipulating the altcoin markets, only alts that are not prone to this are at BTC-e (with fiat coming into it). I dont see how Doge coin will be tied to BTC like LTC is now. It's been done ever since altcoins have existed, why stop now? They won't stop unless it stops working. If anything, it's making more money now than ever so... Pumps and dumps work because suspension of disbelief is still very strong in crypto markets. People want to believe the coins they hold will "go to the moon" and that includes BTC holders. The same human feature that can propel a bitcoin to 1K or 10K USD is what makes altcoins worth some BTC. |
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That BTC mining chart for ASICs is making me smile. I mined 0.17 BTC yesterday via altcoins with "only" 12 GPUs  By comparison the SHA hashing armsrace has developed into a massive shooting one's foot party. |
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The problem with your system is that you assume sending funds (in any form) to Mt. Gox is risk free.
Gox is a black hole which has to implode at some point. That or they will get bought by a competing exchange. There is no guarantee you'll get your funds back. People have been waiting months for a transfer to go through, and Gox has been making it harder for people to even initiate a withdrawal for a while now. These are not good signs. Furthermore it is easy to see why this situation will not resolve itself easily: their unrealistic BTC prices (because of the trapped cash) mean the inflow of currency will have dried up almost entirely. Just a few arbitrage geniuses left, who haven't been following the forums very much.
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What is going on in the world?
Has bitcoins spirit and purpose been lost and gambles taken over
Most of the money being put into bitcoin is a gamble. It's easy to see huge gains on something which is altogether worth very little anyway. |
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This thread has its own inside joke ecosystem now. I've been here too long.
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ak111in, nice work on the app. I'll send part of today's payout your way  Very handy that the stats update now that the personal pages are frozen. Also like the alarm function. |
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Yeah but the problem is, for the power meter measurement to be somewhat accurate I need to count it over several hours. I'm not going to turn off my miners for several hours while they produce 100+ dollars per day  |
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Wow. Yes, it would be really interesting to see how your calculated is related to the real power consumption. 175-180W seems low, but if you are watercooling ... Idea: If there is something like a "save energy" initiative nearby (or the green party :-) ), perhaps they can lend you a kill-a-watt. If it turns out to report the same values, you don't need to own one, anyways. Heh, not much green initiative going on here in Russia. When I visit my home in Belgium i'll try and find one. Only 1 card is watercooled, the other 2 are not. The watercooled one is ~15W below the others. I have 9x7970 and 3x290 and if I count the kWh being drawn by the whole flat (but no appliances on) it seems everything together is around 3400W which is quite a lot for only 12 cards. But of course there is PSU inefficiency and I am using 4 mainboards in total as well. And my 27" screen is on most of the day which probably draws close to 100W as well. But it's not a very accurate way to count, since it leaves me guessing at the non-mining part of total power use. |
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You got me really excited there. But unfortunately, it seems as if your cards have current / power measurement, mine have not. I would have noticed in GPU-z if there were a measurement. I tried now hwinfo64, but the same here I have one ASUS 7970 which doesn't have these sensors available as well. But all my other cards (reference 7970) have them. I also had a Sapphire 7970 once with non-ref blue PCB which also gave me the info. Only the ASUS didn't. I'd like to compare actual readings at the wall with what the GPU reports, but so far no-one has shown up who can see both That is strange. A bit like my experience before I unlocked the voltage by flushing the bios. I chose a voltage in cgminer, but it did not go to that value.
Are you sure your voltage control is unlocked at all on that card? Yes, it's completely unlocked. I just mean... 1.025V is what you SET. Doesn't matter if you set it in trixx, MSI AB or the (modded) BIOS. You get less volts than what you set. But you are one lucky owner of a good GPU card which can read it out itself. Very cool.
Still, get a kill-a-watt if you really want to know. They are cheap. As far as I can tell there are more 7970s that can read it than those who can't, but I can't find a kill-a-watt around here in stores  Nice one. 805/150 = 5.37. But that's only part of the card's consumption, right?
I think so, yes. If I add up all VRM inputs from HWinfo64, I get around 175-180W input per card for 800 Kh. What they really pull, I don't know. But my Corsair 850W PSU does not mind to run 3 of these cards plus my overclocked 4770k, 4 HDDs, 10 fans and a D5 water pump at all. |
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What just happened to my unexchanged?? Only started mining on the pool again yesterday (massive rejects seem to have solved themselves) and my unexchanged at the latest update went from 0.0484 to 0.0109 while my balance increased from 0.0202 to 0.0242. Seriously??? What on earth got exchanged that was worth 0.0375 a few hours ago and is worth 0.004 at exchange now?? I haven't seen any coin go down to a 10th of its value and most of the time yesterday it was mining DOGE anyway. Should've just stayed at fast-pool I guess, my mistake.   |
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How can I read out those amp sensors? GPU-z, shows VRM input current (and input voltage) but it is separate for GPU and memory VRM so you need to add them up. Also HWinfo64 will do, this one actually calculates power OUT based on VRM output current & voltage but we want to know input power which it does not calculate. So we still need to check what the input current is and multiply with the input voltage. Curiously, input voltage is different a little from card to card, even though they are hooked to the same PSU. What do you mean by "with 1.025V set 0.965 actual" ? Well 1.025V is the voltage setting. Either in afterburner or the card's BIOS. The actual voltage after Vdroop is 0.965. Again can be seen in GPU-z or HWinfo. Here is a screenshot with HWinfo.  We see 9.4A @ 11.65V for the GPU and 3.875A at 11.47V for the memory. 109.5 + 44.5 = 154W input. I've been using these readings since the beginning to optimize power consumption, since I don't have a kill-a-watt. I've done the same for my R9 290, unfortunately that one is a bit unclear because the second VRM (which used to be memory) is showing low power usage but GPU VRM is showing relatively high usage, as if some of the memory is accounted for in the first one. Regardless, I've been able to tune the main power consuming VRM down to less than 150W input at 805 Kh/s. At default settings (833 kh/s) it was pulling around 230W from that VRM bank. |
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Has anyone checked (indirectly) measured power consumption against what hardware sensors are showing? (input amps * input volts on VRM 1&2) Wondering how accurate they are. Now that it's freezing outside, some of my 7970s got down to 25C GPU and 18°C VRM temps In fact I slowed down the fans till they went up to 45C or so, less noise from the mining room. I always run them efficiently (700 kh/s with 1.025V set 0.965 actual) but with temps going down power draw is showing very very low in GPU-z. 135-140W input (DC) |
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fast-pool has had a +/- 20% orphaned block rate since I started paying attention half a day ago. Is that the norm with these pools, or particularly bad? 20% is a big deal for the bottom line.
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Yes, that does not mean 45 million was actually "inserted" into the market. It's a number obtained merely by multiplying all the coins in existence with the current exchange rate. The money for them is not actually there, not that amount. You can double the market cap by inserting only a fraction of the "market cap" in actual fiat. |
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This is not behaving like pump and dump... Over $45 million inserted in to doge in last 48 hours.
I think you're reading market cap wrong. |
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Sell on bter, the difference between bter and cryptsy is unreal. Bter will become the Mt.Gox of Dogecoin  hell ... dont sell at all hehehe bter is holding good price as there community realize more potential? or ... just is less voulnabre for dumps pfff Let's be realistic, this is a gigantic pump and won't last for very long. Make hay while the sun shines. DOGE has a bright future potentially, but this is a textbook P&D. I guess the reason people still do P&D's is that...suspension of disbelief is still very strong even after a thousand times. |
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PS by June, GPU mining for doge go the way of the dodo, 2nd ASIC in mainstream
important to rack up while you can
Bullshit. Not even one vaporware Scrypt asic is remotely fast enough (for the money and promised delivery dates) to overtake GPU mining by June. I suspect I'll still be mining with my cards in 12 months' time, depending on crypto prices obviously. |
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