What good is profit if it can't be turned into real money exactly?

Easy to see why: BTC-e doesn't use enough decimal places for DOGE/BTC trading to be possible. This has already caused issues with currencies like FTC, and they've not shown any initiative to change their engine to allow for cheaper currencies.

Every now and then the middlecoin dude has to dump a ****ton of coins, it's to be expected.

Cryptsy is a farce. DOGE deposit takes hours/days depending on *who knows*

I trade my minings at BTER and a transfer there takes...about 10 minutes.

You can't drop the current directly, a GPU operating at maximum hashing speed (not maximum clocks per se, as already pointed out) needs a certain voltage to be stable. What we can optimize is the lowest possible voltage at which it does that. When we drop the voltage, it reduces the leakage of the chip which then in turn leads to less power being drawn. In effect, the input current is reduced considerably but indirectly. Throttling the current via powertune will seriously impact the chip's performance so that's no good in our case.

I have my R9 290s hashing at 805 kh/s instead of 875 because the difference is 75 watts per card. Not worth it for me. 911/1250 clocks at 1.00V on the GPU draws 150W on my watercooled card and 170W on the aircooled ones. Nice and efficient. My 7970s are doing 700 kh each at around 150W in a cold room. These are DC input wattages based on the VRM input current.

I could make a few percent more money at today's rates but after electricity the difference really is almost negligible, and the cards are much happier running cooler.

Well at least one good side of winter. Freezing your *** off outside being a bad one.

~150W input isn't too shabby for a 7970 at 700kh. The VRMs are around 85% efficient at these temps it seems.




Another rig closer to the window has the outer card running at 25C load 

I'm running 3 290s on an 850W Corsair. (single 12V rail ftw)

Undervolted and underclocked they pull less than 200W doing 800 kh. They'll do 875 if you don't mind them pulling another 75W as well. Not really worth it from an efficiency point of view imo.

I pulled my rigs off and pointed them at DOGE. Just couldn't fix my 60% rejected hashing here 
At the new pool I'm seeing 2.5% rejected shares so I dunno why middlecoin suddenly didn't like my rigs.

My rejected has been increasing exponentially, but I seem to be the only one? 

http://www.middlecoin.com/reports/162Lrh1EFAvXeic9HDeRGsMA5pCD3mAn9b.html

4 rigs 7.4 MH total, 1 address. Pool diff is 1024 which is very very high compared to the diff of the coins being mined...

Shares are now coming at a diff of 1024  

My reject rate suddenly also went up from 0.0x MH/s to 0.8 MH/s (out of 7.5 total)

Still, even by Alpha's official timeline (odds of them delivering on time?) you would have been mining several months with GPUs before you could hope to receive this ASIC. That'll take quite a while to catch up in terms of electricity. And what are the odds of them actually delivering what they are promising to build? 50/50 ? I don't think they are better than that. It still makes no sense to tie up funds for something so far away, so uncertain, and with a marginal outright gain on existing tech which has a certain residual value.

Quite, which is what I said at the end of the first paragraph there 

No...shoud've read the forums man.

Maybe you can get your money from Gox after a few months. Maybe not. It's not recommended at this point. Considering it's been this way since before summer...it's not looking brilliant.

I'm not sure you do. Unlike the SHA ASICs, these things are not delivering a hugely exponential increase in hashing power per dollar.
In fact you can buy a bunch of GPUs right now that will hash that much for similar money. How much coins will they mine before this vaporware ever ships? Even if it does, your main advantage is electricity usage. For electricity to be the deciding factor profitability has to be quite low already.

If you would get 100 MH for the price of 10 GPUs, then the potential reward would indeed be great. Right now, it really isn't. Not to mention, if scrypt asics come to dominate the large scrypt coins, the difficulty will skyrocket while tons of coins with a slightly different algorhitm are released. No matter how I look at this, tying up money in a scrypt asic preorder simply does not look profitable.

In terms of this week's profitability...well any LTC, FTC or Doge pool along with many other smaller alts we can't mine here.

I am leaving in 2 days when I get back to my rigs. The pool operator has lost my trust, plain and simple.

I'm not on tealovers side here with the drama nor do I think his agenda is honorable, but your apologism for H2O seems a bit unfounded as well. The math does not add up, because if the volume of coins generated is getting too large to move at the prices H2O wants then the only solution is to lower the price and sell the damn things anyway. While he is waiting the price could just as well tank. If he does eventually get to his ambitious target, by then a new pile of nigh unsellable coins has been built up. The only sustainable way is sell as much coins as you generate every day.
My unexchanged is 300% of my last 2 payouts. At some point the term "auto exchange" is no longer a valid description of the pool.

My unexchanged balance is now 300 percent of my average daily payout. And growing. This is not "auto exchanging" anymore. If anyone says "not enough market depth" - well what are we waiting for, the altcoin market to expand a few hundred percent? Could take a while. If there's not enough BTC flowing into alts to get the price H2O wants for the coins we mined, then that's just how it is and we should settle for less. I'll take less over nothing for an indefinite amount of time. Auto exchanging to me does not mean "will be exchanged at some point in the future maybe tomorrow maybe next week maybe..."

I do think I'll leave next week when I get home to my rigs if things are still going this way. The pool is now too big to be really profitable... It's simple math to realize profit switching pools like this one only give good gains up to a certain size relative to total hashpower in the system.

Why people are so touchy in here I don't quite understand. H2O is like an absent stepparent in the main discussionf orum concerning his goose with  golden eggs. Nobody here should have a reason to be in love with this pool when it is not more profitable than straight up mining a large altcoin. On the other hand, while the herd is on middlecoin it means that there is room to make more money elsewhere so by all means, continue.

I'm getting ever so slightly uncomfortable with that growing pile of unexchanged coins towering above my payouts. I'd like to get what I mined fairly swiftly not with several days delay. The value just starts to get higher than what I trust complete strangers with in the crypto universe.

My 6.5 MH made 65 dollars at the last payout. Today seems less so far, but I have a ton of unexchanged building up.