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1841  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling schools importance on: August 23, 2022, 10:41:38 PM
Like every other games, there are academies to get the training, But I never heard of gambling schools to train the people.

Do you think we need gambling schools to prepare people for gamble?
We dont really need for this one yet its not really that complicated to learn up gambling games since it is really most luck based which it isnt really hard to learn or to understand even if you are a first timer.
When it comes to strategic ones then all of information that you could learn on online with having that simple google search then you would really be able to get those information and wont really be needing
for you to go into some schools or learning centers or something like that.It wont really be that relevant since learning gambling games wont really be that complicated or hard.
So its not really important at all i would say.
1842  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do not panic. Everything will get better on: August 23, 2022, 07:53:13 PM
1. Be patient, don't panic.
2. Buy and hold.

It's becoming increasingly apparent that other coins are very influential on Bitcoin. So, the opportunity to buy to increase the volume of Bitcoin can be done again for long-term investments. The current market situation in my opinion is a very tough test to be applied by those who are impatient.

Do not panic. Everything will get better.
Those two options are always good for anyone who doesn't panic and also has a lot of patience. Because the risk is clearly there, but people who have positive thinking will always prefer a challenge by applying patience and also buying in the ability that he has to hold in the long term. Remember that the market situation will not always remain or forever decline, because changes are always there and occur in the market so being patient and not panicking is the way to get wiser profits.
A very common strategy (Don't panic and hold), but it is very useful to apply when the market is experiencing a price drop.
The situation now is challenging many people. Those who are weak will sell and I am very happy that many hands are selling. I call this a period of challenge.
This challenge will be won by those of us who think positively by looking at Bitcoin in the long term.
Those people who do consider out on buying within these times are the ones who do really see the opportunity on making profits whenever this market do make out some recovery or made out some turns of events.
Somehow its not really that simple to avoid on not to panic out since we are just humans which does have emotion which it cant really be avoided not to make out some reaction whenever we do see price decline on this market.If you've been here on this market for a while then you would really be not able to panic out easily because you've been aware on how this market move or behaves which
it would really make you to be wary on what should actions you would really be doing in these times.
1843  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: taking out a loan for a sports bet (UPDATE) + fixed match on: August 23, 2022, 12:02:03 AM
Making bets with those loan or borrowed amounts is considered suicide even putting up on investment is already risky,How much more if you do make out betting or gamble out with those funds?
Gamble with your extra funds or which is only allocated for the sake of leisure things and never ever consider on taking up some loan because you would eventually lose it all in the end.
Im aint saying that you cant make winnings with sports betting but it wont really be giving out any guarantees that you would really succeed on this one.So its better
gamble on the amount that you can afford as always which is always been the primary rule when it comes to fund management.

Yes there's no guarantee nor assurance in gambling, better not to take a risk with this. Yes there will be a chance that he will earn by using that loan but the thing what if a sudden change may come? having a loan is such a pain, many people love to take loans just for them to use in other things that aren't necessary or using it to gamble and getting in a big trouble because they can't afford to pay the loan. Better not to play for awhile, rather than taking loans.
And this is where you do end up on;

1. Losing your assets
2. Losing your wife
3. Losing your loved ones
4. Losing everything

If you arent that good on controlling your gambling addiction plus taking up some loan
then you would really be ending up on miserable life.
1844  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best time to buy or wait a little bit ? on: August 22, 2022, 10:59:27 PM
Honestly, that’s up to you because we don’t know which price will go up. If you think, you can take the risk, then you can buy. Or else, if the price goes down, you can buy at the dip. So, analyse the market and take risk accordingly.
It all matters about risk taking and people should realize on this one and you do have the full decision when it comes to this on which you would really be that making analysis and lots of consideration before taking action.
Buy time or Sell time it would really vary on you and its not bad to snip out some idea from other people who do have more experience but dont make yourself totally relying into those analysis since we are just all
speculators on here. Whether you do decide to hold on a little bit more or would really be making some risk taking decisions and presume that this is the best time to buy.
Its up to you and be sure  that there are no other people who could really affect your investment or trading decisions.
1845  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: POSSIBLE THINGS TO HELP US TO WIN AT CRYPTO CASINOS on: August 22, 2022, 09:59:28 PM
I think doing the home work to know the particular game to play and the one that you can do well with best result guarantee more of winning than the casino itself or relying on it to win, the casino don't win game but our ability to know which game to have result does it. Where the reputation of a casino come in is when to withdraw, so a casino with bad history of withdrawal may delay your winnings but won't stop you from winning except you are referring to the case if a casino can manipulate the results against the player.
Understanding the game you're playing surely helps like with card games for example but only to a certain point since most games still relies on luck and there's not much we can do to offset that luck whenever we're playing. I somewhat agree that picking a good casino helps because there are different casinos that offer certain rewards which you won't always see in other casinos and some of them have different calculations on how they distribute these rewards so in a way it helps us win since it increases our bankrolls.
We do know that games could be classified on two;

1.Strategic
2.Luck based

So it would it would really be just common sense that you would really be using up on your skills on something that you could eventually able to do so
but for luck ones then dont bother because everything would be random.There's no way that you could really take advantage on something which do fully rely
its results on RNG or totally random. Play for leisure and dont chase for making money or profits because that would create desperation.
1846  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Teaching Bitcoin To My Friends| You're invited too on: August 22, 2022, 09:31:58 PM
You did a nice job of letting your friends know about bitcoin and the forum. I commend you for your enthusiasm for taking such a step. Am also spreading the same awareness to my friends by letting them know about bitcoin. It seems not an easy task but we are getting there gradually. thanks to this forum for embroidering my knowledge towards the teaching of crypto to them
It is really that commendable for those people who do consider out on sharing information bitcoin or crypto as a whole.Even though in small scale but at least you are still spreading awareness which is really good
since this would be talking about awareness and recognition in overall.Teaching up the one you do know or simply with your friend does somewhat help on spreading up about its existence
which would really be adding up in overall recognition which i had said earlier but not all people would really be that mindful on about sharing up this opportunity because it could
really be that hassle and most of the time where people doesnt really believe about its potential.
1847  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Influence of "Paid" Streamers on Online gambling..... on: August 20, 2022, 09:35:18 PM
~snip~
People are also saying that "Paid" streamers are basically "sweeping" all money that are being played by others on those specific slots. (You often hear people saying... "I cannot play XXX Slot now, because streamer YYY won big on that Slot) - If I am correct... all funds that are played in a casino goes into one "Pot" .....and wins are paid out of that... or in the case of a Jackpot system.. into a "Pot" at the 3rd party service provider. (Is this true or false...any experts out there that can clear this up?)

Just to make something clear .... not all Streamers of gambling content are "Paid" streamers or affiliates of casinos.... some use their own money. (Example : Syztmz)
^Goes to into one pot that we called a house edge or a banker.
But it does have an effect if the paid streamers will win at that time, while other gamblers will lose. Each of them has its own RTP that we can verify on our own. Paid streamers are also similar to the regular gambler but the difference is they seem a higher wager because they have a lot of funds that come from sponsors' money. However you are right, they also use their own money for the sake of the content of the video but all of these are limited when it comes to spending funds.
As an influencer or streamer then i wont really be using up too much money on playing on a gambling site just because its been part of your job or simply like that because we are doing such job to earn more
money and not to waste of it which it would be understandable that most of them would be sponsored it out and it true that when it comes to chances or odds on winning then it would really be just the same
into those who do tend to play on that time or even on old players or others.It is really just they are really making significant wins since they do really bet out something big since they do have that big
funds been provided which it would really be that common sense that it could really trigger out someones interest whenever they do see these numbers.
1848  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: taking out a loan for a sports bet (UPDATE) + fixed match on: August 20, 2022, 07:57:31 PM
thanks for the responses everyone, I am placing bets using my own funds now I just needed to win a few big bets first and both of the matches I posted won Smiley
I am glad that you won your bets and that you only used your own money in our to do so instead of taking a loan, however in the OP you express that you think that maybe you should have taken that loan, but you need to understand that there are things that regardless of the outcome should not be done, and taking a loan to gamble with that money is one of those things, it is simply a bad idea to make a bet with money that is not yours, it doesn't matter if you think that it is a sure thing, this is something that must never be done.

Lucky that he's not a type of addicted gambler who still have a good control inside him, unlike with addicted gambling, where most of the time instinct and aggressions are the factors that pushed them to do things that shouldn't be done while in gambling. Taking loans is a big risk not because you into gambling but more on the side that if you lose your bet the loan money needs to be paid, it will be a pain in your butt finding ways to pay the bills realizing that everything just went to one mistake that will continue to chase you while paying the loan amount.

It's good that afterwards, he realized that it's not good and things like this should not be backup or be followed. Always use spare money when gambling, an amount that you can easily let go.
Making bets with those loan or borrowed amounts is considered suicide even putting up on investment is already risky,How much more if you do make out betting or gamble out with those funds?
Gamble with your extra funds or which is only allocated for the sake of leisure things and never ever consider on taking up some loan because you would eventually lose it all in the end.
Im aint saying that you cant make winnings with sports betting but it wont really be giving out any guarantees that you would really succeed on this one.So its better
gamble on the amount that you can afford as always which is always been the primary rule when it comes to fund management.
1849  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What will be running in your mind if Bitcoin reaches $1000 again on: August 20, 2022, 12:09:48 AM
Won't lie, will be feeling not-so-mild panic. But I've held on when BTC dropped below $4k and I do remember feeling pretty panicky, but that didn't last long. Of course, that was "only" a 80% dip from ATH... would be a different feeling holding at $1k after seeing $67k!

That said, I'd be really confident of a terrific bounce up if we do touch 1000!
Bouncing up wont be a guarantee because after seeing 69k and dropped on $1k then it would really be showing off different story where it cant really be avoided that you would be thinking that this might be the end
of bitcoin since it is really just too low if we do consider on whats the ATH and it do ends up on dropping that low which even experienced or old timers of this market will really panic if this time happens.
Some might be still considering on buying up on these prices since its pretty cheap but as long the price wont really go to zero then there's always the probability of recovery
or huge pump ups and this is where those buyers been hoping for for it to happen.
1850  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: taking out a loan for a sports bet (UPDATE) + fixed match on: August 19, 2022, 11:22:00 PM
Believing yourself that you could really get fixed matches information is something that you cant really able to obtain unless if you are part of some mafia or big organizations then you would really able to acquire these
things

And OP isn't really sure honestly if that information is legit. If he is really sure, then he should just go ahead and ignore our advice.

It's already clear that the information was just passed by other sources from other sources and so on. OP is not a part of a big group or organization that is involved in the fixed match but rather maybe he was lured to a service of the fixed match which is a paid service.

I hope OP will not always take the bait and be responsible for his future decision.
Mostly this do came from paid services which same as you do said but we know that these informations arent really that sure if its a fixed match information a legit one or just simply a speculation
and those services will really be trying out to claim that it was real when it do really end up on a win which we cant really even assure if its real or not on the first place thats why you should really
be careful on dealing with these type of groups who do claim having those fixed matches information and the most dangerous thing to be done is to take up some loan
for you to make out some bets which it isnt always been recommendable to do so.
1851  Economy / Economics / Re: Why aren't people utilising cryptocurrency payment methods? on: August 19, 2022, 09:59:31 PM
Agree with what you say, because in some countries it is not meant to be a means of payment. Some of them even still do not allow their citizens to adopt bitcoin, so it is indeed very difficult to pass regulations.
My country is still in a neutral stage right now but there is still no talk of paying via bitcoin and it's likely that this will never happen so no matter how hard we do it it still won't work.
If Bitcoin is not added to the latest regulations for wider use including for alternative payment methods then whatever efforts we make will not be successful, so I think the government will not give dispensation for the use of crypto and keep it for futures investment not for alternative payments because of the potential replace the use of fiat.
Even they are afraid off about that probability of replacing fiat but still it cant really be possible if we are really thinking up realistically.Even though cryptocurrencies does have its pro's and benefits but it wouldnt be surely enough on taking replacement of fiat that we've been using through ages.It cant just be possible but instead it would really be just sitting around on being alternative.
People or merchants would really be that hesitant on utilizing crypto payments since we know that not all corners of the world will really be allowing this thing and if its allowed
but people are still hesitant on doing so due to volatility or moving prices which it isnt surprising for such reaction.
1852  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: taking out a loan for a sports bet (UPDATE) + fixed match on: August 19, 2022, 08:59:29 PM

i am not sure  if playing with this is safer than Fire but using a borrowed money will double if not  triple your chance of being a loser.

What do you mean not sure if playing with this is safer than fire?
Man, there's nothing safe there in the first place. Taking out a loan to gamble is another of level of risk than just plainly gambling with your own money. How much more If you're taking out a loan to gamble to a said fixed match which sounds very shady for exposing it publicly.
There's not a chance of triple of being a loser here to be honest, coz the first time you took the loan intended to place a bet to the said fixed match, means you're already a loser. 
Believing yourself that you could really get fixed matches information is something that you cant really able to obtain unless if you are part of some mafia or big organizations then you would really able to acquire these
things but speaking about on an ordinary day and you do able to see some claiming that these are fixed matches information then better not to believe those things and its true that whenever you  do make use of
your own money and losses then you would really make things even more worst if you do consider on taking up some loan and pushing on the same intent.
1853  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What do you guys think is the best crypto signals group on Telegram? on: August 18, 2022, 11:54:55 PM
I think you need to use those signals that have brought you profit.
It is very difficult to find singles that will give you profit, because Telegram is always controlled by fraudsters. However, if such signals are received from any exchange, then those signals should be followed. Moreover, it is better to refrain from following any signal from all other sources.
Discord
Telegram

These are the most common platforms where frauds and scams do exist and if you arent really that careful and not aware on how these things works
then you would really be finding yourself on being scammed nor victimized.

Signals provided on these messaging platforms whether it would really be that useful or total shit at all.This is why its important
that you should really make yourself that aware on how things works.
1854  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: taking out a loan for a sports bet (UPDATE) + fixed match on: August 18, 2022, 10:57:17 PM
thanks for the responses everyone, I am placing bets using my own funds now I just needed to win a few big bets first and both of the matches I posted won Smiley

That's better. Regardless if you're winning or lossing as long as you're betting with your own money and not the loaned one, you're perfectly fine and free from stress and depressions.
Though, someone reliable told you about fixed matches, but still there is no assurance that the game is indeed being fixed. If it turns out that they got your trust, you'll probably going to get a huge loan and put it all in one bet. From there, you should be able to imagine how it would turn out when you lose?
You would only get stressed when you do lose your money but its normal rather than on having from both stress which is losing your money and you would need to pay up some loan with those losses which is totally
a disaster if you do have this kind of consideration on handling up things because its never been ideal on taking up some loan just for gambling purposes and it would be more worth if you do make
some considerations like these but if it would be solely be spend for gambling then you are just creating some real big problems ahead on the time  that you would need to repay those amounts.
Dont take loan for gambling purposes.Period.
1855  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How often do you use Bitcoin? on: August 18, 2022, 09:52:31 PM
I'm just curious to know how often people on the forum make BTC transactions.

Feel free to expand on your answer below, should you desire.

Please vote honestly, thanks.
Between twice a month and once a week

I do make accumulation between my signature campaign earnings and my trading earnings to be saved on 2 weeks time and then this is the time i do decide whether
i do pull off some portion of it for some expenses or needs and the rest would really be saving up for long term.Ive been doing this for how many years although
im really into long term holding but there are instances or situations that cant really be avoided on not to make up some spending with your coins
specially with bitcoin or trying out to covert it out actively.
1856  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rise of Streamers in Online Gambling on: August 18, 2022, 08:49:28 PM
Probably the streamer is sponsored so he really won't review the casino since he will not lose anything.  All he needs is to stream get winning and withdraw his commission.  There are lots of streamers that doesn't mind if the casino has a valid accusation, all they care about is the money that they can get on streaming and the percentage of the amount wins.
If the streamer is able to withdraw the fund, of course, he will say that he gets the money through successful withdrawal. 

Now (however, as before) you can not trust anyone. The essence of the work of streamers is that they are purchasable, (I'm talking about the most popular ones) - if someone offers them a contract under which they will receive x10 compared to the income that the audience itself gives them (donations, subscriptions, etc.), then 99 out of 100 will agree without hesitation.
But we should not forget about the naivety of people - if they see how every evening a streamer loses 5-10 thousand dollars in a casino, then it is worth considering whether this is real money  Grin

I agree streamers are being sponsored, so basically they will promote the one sponsoring them since they are getting paid.  I bet many of us know that.  We just watch for entertainment or how their featured game works.

Some streamer admits that they are playing with sponsored money while others tend to hide it. The money involved is real, but often than not, they are not owned by the streamer.
You could eventually able to find out with just having that simple observation and if a streamer isnt really that known yet then it would be impossible that it would be spending thousands of dollars on gambling and showing
into a stream where it would really be understandable or easy to understand on how it do works and how it could really affect your actions basing up on what you are seeing.It would be just normal that they would really be advertising on whats been asked or been told them to do so and since they are just workers and earning up money then they would be definitely be agreeing on that and whether they do say about sponsored
or personal money then it would really be not much of an issue.We do want here is about transparency and being fair on the first place.
1857  Economy / Economics / Re: Where should I invest? on: August 18, 2022, 12:23:56 AM
I think a good investment is the one who has full control and we can sell 24/7, this is in Cryptocurrencies which makes us able to control fully and of course a good security system, I once invest in stocks and prices rise but unfortunately not enough time to sell so that When selling profits is no longer large and costs for transactions in stocks are also large.

You can use a bot for trading, it's absolutely not necessarily to be engaged 24/7.

But that's not what this thread is about. OP is asking where to invest in 2022. For a long term investment it's BTC and ETH, imo. But if you want to have some fun with daily crypto trading, then take Dogecoin, is my advice. On the one hand, it's highly volatile, and on the other hand it is much more reliable than any of the sh*tcoins around.
Yes, we could make use of bots but of course it would be needing sufficient knowledge and experience for you to at least able to set it up according into the analysis you do have in mind.
You wont really be needing to engage in front of your monitor in long hours if you could really make use of these tools then it would really be easing up the situation which you might
able to make yourself productive on other things or specially if you do have other works which it isnt really that necessary for you to have that engagement unless
if you are active or day trader then you would really needing to hands on.
1858  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino can play a role in changing fortune? on: August 17, 2022, 11:17:29 PM

Probably a small number of people can boast of being able to walk away from a casino with winning, and there are many more stories of failure. Risking your last remaining money is not a smart thing to do. I don't think such people have any strategy or plan of action for sure. It's just a huge success that happens very rarely, maybe even once in a lifetime.
True, it doesn't usually happen. It is totally on luck. However, it is not unusual to win small amounts of money here. As happened to Smith. But he gambled with $5,000 for about a week and won $17,000. This amount is not very high in gambling where many people have records of winning millions of dollars with keeping very few dollars.

Not everyone could boast about their winnings because, to be honest, most of us walk away from gambling because we don't have any capital to use since we've already lost everything we had. There will only be a few people who can succeed and reach their target goals in gambling because, to be honest, gambling is a game of luck and it is not strategic.
I think you have to rethink again of what you're saying because there's a game that goes with strategy only to win and luck is just a bonus if you have it. Just try the poker and see what the professional gamblers do when they have a bad card I've seen some of them flip the game just by bluffing and it goes to different games too because skills and strategy is what makes you win plus your will to win and that's matter.
Strategic type of games does need strategy and not luck alone and thats the main difference when you do deal up with those games which it would be just common sense on what would be mainly needed
and not just luck alone unlike when dealing with casino type of games which do only require luck for you to win up the game. Casinos are just giving off and provide games where people could play
and they would need up to deposit and play right away and there's no way that casino could play a role on changing up fortune because everything works on RNG for luck based
games and skills for skill based ones.
1859  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Keep calm and buy the dip! Told yah. on: August 17, 2022, 09:56:51 PM

In a normal circumstances, an average trader knows quit well that cryptocurrency investment is something you will go directly to purchase when it's in the dip market. I understand that cryptocurrency have a particular face and duration foe investors to in, in order to invest and also make sustainable profit per investment. I will say that it's the reason why people do adventure in the investment immediately the market is at dip.

But I think that doesn't apply to all coins or tokens. You have to be careful, there are coins that go down continuously even to the point of scams. In fact I experienced that, this is because there are currently so many coins/tokens circulating in the market. You have to be meticulous. Indeed, when the price is below that the opportunity increases the number of coins and increases profits. Not all token coins will be able to reach past the highs they made. So I think you should choose a specific coin to invest in long-term or trade short-term. 
Buying the dip won't be advisable when it comes to new projects and nonestablished altcoins. It will only work for altcoins with a strong foundation and which has been through different market situations and survived. Some altcoins drop their price and don't survive since they have weak resistance against the bearish market so it would be better to trust well-established altcoins.
It would be still considerable as long you do make your research and then making some considerations on investing on projects which you do see that does have potential and its your call
whether you would really be taking up risk or not but in overall it would be worth if you do consider on buying the dip into those projects or coins on the market which had been established through time.
Speaking with bitcoin then there's no doubt about potential and possible price movement in the future but with other projects in the market? It cant really give out that assurance.
Keeping yourself calm on a bear market is no joke or not really that simple but once you do have that experience then it wont really be that an issue.
1860  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Government Owned Online Casinos What Do You Think Of Its Potential on: August 17, 2022, 08:53:26 PM
Unfortunately, that is really the sad reality in the world we live in because there is only few public officials who were really honest during their term especially if they were exposed to this kind of industries that will make them instant reach if they want but they chose not to. But mostly, as you said, there are more corrupt officials than the good ones and many officials have already been proven guilty and been jailed for it.

Honestly, it's much better for a country not to run any gambling business that their own government officials will man it because that will just result to an unwanted situations. It's still much better to just reap the fruits year from the revenues generated by these private gambling businesses.

Therefore, the share of the state should be reduced to a minimum wherever possible. We can't have private courts or police (although some functions like security can be performed by private firms) but I don't see any reason why we should involve the state in running the casino business. A lot of individuals and organizations are ready to do this, compete with each other and provide the best service - why break this working system? After all, in the end we will get the worst product with a corrupt official. It's just not wise.

Always have that effect when government take the ownership, corruptions is not a question but a reality that will take place,

I see your point and that is right, there are many private business owners who can cater this business allow them to own and compete

with each other will guarantee a good amount of taxes. Just be keen in collecting all the taxes from those businesses instead of having one.


It would really be that no sense if government would really be creating one.Just to have that main question on who would be the one to make use of revenue of the casino owned by the government?
Where they do get those capital or funding from? Also to taxes? It would really be just no sense on creating one thats why government wouldnt really be that mindful on running one.
Certain individuals or business owners are the ones will really be having consideration on running online casinos or physical ones as long they are paying correct or exact taxes
then it wont really be creating problems in regarding on that matter.
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