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281  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is stuck at $10k dollars, what is wrong with you people? on: February 19, 2018, 11:26:57 PM
December was very good but in January you lost your faith.
Give us some faith or it won't reach $20k.
Keep it going up people.  Show some confidence.

No, in December bitcoin started to dump and now in this time bitcoin is still better because day by day bitcoin price increase, but little bit. I think bitcoin take time and then the day will come when we will see bitcoin price come at $20000. In starting of 2017 bitcoin has no high price, in mid of 2017 bitcoin give us surprise by increased, then we should wait for mid of 2018.     

People didn't lose faith. It's just that too many bandwagoners joined in last december without really having any idea about what bitcoin and crypto is. And we're still seeing the market dusting off those people right now. And is 10k even a bad thing at this point? Better check your facts again dude :p

yeah, and those people are the ones who most likely sell their coins even at a lower price because they really don't have the patience to hold and just expected too much before they bought bitcoin. This is very normal and expert traders who well know this scenario, just took advantage and profited in the process.
282  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Suicide due to losses due to investment in virtual currency on: February 19, 2018, 10:57:23 PM
If Bitcoin doesn't hit $50,000 by the end of the year, I am definitely going to kill myself. 

lol.. although that bitcoin price could be achievable, he is just definitely joking about killing himself Cheesy
but when it really hit $50,000, many ordinary individuals will become wealthy way beyond other people who are just working as plain employee..
283  Economy / Speculation / Re: HODL Will Stand When All Else Falls! on: February 15, 2018, 12:12:40 PM
I often say hodl and wait for the price high, but these words are not effective/encouraging for some users especially to newbies or weak investors that cant stand the dropping value hence they tend to panic sell and hoping to recover their capital before its too late. We cant coerce them to do as we say because its normal to worry when your expectation didn't happen. I always remember the saying "Good things come to those who wait" and indeed my persistence paid off for gaining in my investment for the few years I have been in crypto world.

I think it is slowly happening now as bitcoin price is going up gradualy Smiley
Really, good things come to those who wait! Wink

I just hope that everyone, especially the new comers and investors to continue to hold the line because everything will be fine.
284  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What are the best coins to buy right now? on: February 14, 2018, 04:45:57 AM
I would advise now to buy tokens SocialMedia.Market. Managing of Influencer Marketing programs is a very time-consuming process and Influencer Marketing platforms, or agencies require an advertiser to pay up to 50% commission for such services. With the help of this services, brands can expect to reduce the costs associated with launching Influence Marketing campaigns significantly.

This is interesting but I just wonder if we can tap big influencers and if big influencers are willing to join in because as per experienced, big influencers are the ones who are being outreached to by brands and site owners to collaborate with. Big influencers are already comfortable with the level of their influence that they will just wait and check their emails when someone wants to work or advertise with them.
285  Economy / Speculation / Re: HODL Will Stand When All Else Falls! on: February 12, 2018, 02:48:20 AM
This BTC dip will take more time to recover than we think, whales are using this to spread bad news and they will use this situation as always happen in situations like this. There are too much bad news for crypto serving to us this days. Credit card bans spam confuse people but they don't know they still can send wire transfer and use Debit card to buy coins..., exchange ban from some countries, regulating crypto world etc etc. All this are some of reasons why this happening today with BTC. We just need to be patient and over time situation will be better and different. Some coins will die meanwhile, that happen with thousands coins till now, some will grove stronger etc etc...
Well, no one expects recovery to always be pretty fast, but I will not be surprised if it does not. We may have some bad news now, but just wait a little bit as the news start changing now that the bulls are beginning to step in gradually, then we will see a bull rally which is normally usual.

The beginning of it is the one that was had with the US senate, and there is so much more to come. At the end, the patient dogs in this market always end up eating the fattest bone.

With respect to cryptocurrencies, we still have a long way to go and a huge room for more development. One thing I always tell newbies is that, if you are a long position older, never bother yourself about the value you see presently now in the market and if you a short term holder and you did not sell at the top, do not bother giving the sharks and whales the pleasure of taking your money away from you. I love dips like this, because the recovery is one thing I always look forward to after it happens.

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and advice to newbies. It is really helpful and reinforces also my stand to hold the line and if got some spare money, buy bitcoins as much as I could.

Although I no longer buy bitcoin now and the last one was 2 years ago but I am considering of buying few satoshis at anytime when I will get my pay from client work.

I am also planning to buy more altcoins with 50% of my remaining bitcoin holding because the reds are really tempting to buy and I guess that is the smart thing to do right now.
286  Economy / Speculation / Re: HODL Will Stand When All Else Falls! on: February 09, 2018, 02:22:24 AM
I feel that most of the old bitcointalk members have already mastered the Art of Holding. Aren't you? Yes, I am talking to you SR. Member and above! Smiley

I've bought bitcoin at 16,000$ plus, started to go up before it went down slowly plummeting its market value at 6,048.xx$ but i never felt fazed to even sell my bitcoin. I just realized that i am just a Full Member which makes me believe that those who know how to HODL are not Sr. Members and above only.

Your rank and how long you been here does not have something to do with HODLing because HODLing comes from someone who has strong heart and strong belief of bitcoin no matter what their rank status may be, IMO.

For those who have the courage to HODL despite all crisis, CONGRATULATIONS!

you are right pocketfullofpoke, that the ability to hold is really not based on the ranks and there are newbies here that are having bitcoin for years already. I was just presuming that senior members and up are quite long already in the forum and know the volatility of bitcoin that is why I referred only to sr member and up Smiley
287  Economy / Speculation / Re: HODL Will Stand When All Else Falls! on: February 08, 2018, 01:01:08 PM
Many newbies or those who are still new to cryptocurrency investment or trading will be the ones that readily reacts when a coin suffer a massive corrections and later succumb to panic selling. They are not well-informed on what to do with their coins when the price are falling down. Hodling a coin for long a time is been used by many traders and holders who wants to profit  in long term investments. When you are planning to hodl your bitcoins, you need to remain calm during the sell-off panics and set your mind in the future.

I agree with you Rooster101. I am a crypto day trader and with the recent down of prices to almost all of the altcoins, I halted my usual trades in a day and just holding them.

I am quite surprised that in due time, I am now able to manage my emotions to not get panic in any big price movements and just stay focus on my goal. This is not who I am a few years ago Smiley
288  Economy / Speculation / Re: TIME TO FORGET ABOUT HODL on: February 07, 2018, 01:27:28 AM
I'm still hodling, but I have reserve cash as well.  I'm going to wait and see where this bottoms out.   This current chart looks like a ski jump ramp, and not the up part.

every ski ramp has an end too, eventually. and the lower we go, the closer we get to that end where there is nowhere to go but up.
i fully agree that we should wait and see where the bottom is but buying bitcoin has never been a bad idea either. i will go as far as saying those who bought at $19800 or $20 on some exchanges are not going to regret it in the near future either.

I agree and even though I only accumulate bitcoin through sig campaign, trading, and a little gambling, I also share the pain of the ones who bought bitcoin at a higher price because I too have the same holding value when bitcoin hits its all-time high record.

Nevertheless, I am a worry free holder for some good reasons - one of it is I truly believe in the bright future of bitcoin and for sure I will not regret it! Smiley
289  Economy / Speculation / Re: HODL Will Stand When All Else Falls! on: February 05, 2018, 11:41:21 PM
I have been holding since 2015! Yes my portfolio has taken a big hit in recent weeks but overall I'm still up and continue to hold because I believe that the market will recover soon. Even the Dow Jones has taken a big hit so its not just the crypto market feeling the pain right now. Strong hands will hold while the weak will sell at a loss. When people panic they sell at a loss so that is why we must remain clam and continue to hold.

Interesting. What price point are you planning to sell your coins? It should be more than $19,783.06 because you haven't sold it even at the all-time high price.
290  Economy / Speculation / Re: [POLL] Is the bubble bursting?? on: February 05, 2018, 11:29:12 PM
What Bubble?

Bitcoin was 5500 in october 2017 an now 4 months later it is 7300.You call that a crisis or some bubble it is up 40% in 4 months.Wallstreet can not do that , ever!

That is right and most misses this picture because they are so focused on the current price fall gauging it from btc all-time high price point.
291  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Suicide due to losses due to investment in virtual currency on: February 05, 2018, 11:26:14 PM
There were many cases of a wealthy individual who committed suicide during the great depression in the US. I read it in the book think and grow rich by Napoleon Hill.

This is really what happened when we tend to be greedy and when we accumulate more than we could ever imagine, we still want more and in the process of wanting more, there is a potential that we can lose it all due to some factors that we cannot control. The loses will be so devastating and for the emotionally and mentally weak, suicide will be an easy escape to accept the truth.

It should not be the case, we should value life more than anything else in this world.
292  Economy / Speculation / Re: HODL Will Stand When All Else Falls! on: February 05, 2018, 11:14:30 PM
Well, to be honest i feel little nervous, because when it falls, it falls really fast. And looking at the price right now hurts, specially like me who invested in mid Nov. But even in bad times, i didn't sell anything yet, i am holding tight, even though my 60% portfolio gone!

I think you are doing the right thing. I could not really speak on behalf of the old members here but I think most are holding and just never mind the price drop because it will rise again sooner or later.

The real losers right now are the ones who sell their coins at a greater less value than what they paid for when they purchased it. The holders are not losers unless the coins they are holding will die and in zero value.
293  Economy / Speculation / HODL Will Stand When All Else Falls! on: February 05, 2018, 11:00:29 PM
I feel that most of the old bitcointalk members have already mastered the Art of Holding. Aren't you? Yes, I am talking to you SR. Member and above! Smiley

It is no secret that bitcoin gone through hell since its inception but the firm believers who HODL became wealthy in a tremendous way.


Hope those short line of words eases the pain to all the members here who emotionally suffer the most with the current price downfall of bitcoin and hopefully will also be a venue for the crypto pro to give encouragement to other members to continue hodling on.


294  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: HODL = Hold On for Dear Life ;) on: February 05, 2018, 10:26:54 PM
When i started to say hodl my coins , all the coins are going deep. And i said hodl again they gone more deep. I am saying hodl now. I can not sell my coins with this price. I will hodl compulsorily.

LOL don't see hodl then because your coins seem allergic to that word..haha anyways, kidding aside, these are really hard and trying times especially for the newcomers in the cryptocurrency and they are greeted with fear and anxiety with the price going down to most coins apart from bitcoin.

The feeling of fear is valid but they should stick and hang out with resilient and positive members of the forum to get some motivation and hope so they won't end up selling and not hodling (hope I spelled it right Cheesy)
295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Have you invested to certain altcoins and lost all your money? Read everything! on: February 05, 2018, 10:15:39 PM
I think nobody experienced this kind of loosing all the money in crypto because the price will get low but it still have a value.At the same time holding your alts and hoping that the price will rise again is another way of not losing your money.Keep holding and have faith on your assets.

My cousin lost a lot of his investments and he was depressed for several months through it. Investing right now is not the best choice as well as selling your actives. Better simply keep everything you have and wait.

You mean he sold his coins at a more lower price than what he paid for it? It is really depressing and I can relate to that because I have few trades before that went losing due to being not patient enough and sold it when the price is going down.

At the moment, I think now is a good time to start buying credible coins that are going red because they really have potential to bounce back again.
296  Economy / Speculation / Re: Your opinion about the fall of bitcoin on: February 05, 2018, 09:05:09 PM
Sometimes the analysis can not explain us very well but I decided to stay calm, no to panic. Better days are coming for bitcoin

In this current bitcoin scenario, there is no amount of technical analysis that could predict where the price is going because it is now heavily dictated by emotions of most traders and holders.

It is very hard to determine each individual emotions but I think the old-time advice of buying while people are afraid is a good reminder and mindset to have right now.
297  Economy / Speculation / Re: Your opinion about the fall of bitcoin on: February 05, 2018, 01:18:21 AM
Cryptocurrency, in general, is very volatile and aside from the pump and dump everywhere, the trading is really driven by emotions and it is so hard to guess the emotions of every trader around the world - so when there is bad news about bitcoin or any altcoins, the emotion trading sets in and that is the primary price movers.

Of course, we can't say that news is not being manipulated but any bad news can really touch the emotions of most traders.
298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Possibility that Twitter will follow the advertising ban of Facebook? on: February 02, 2018, 02:52:16 AM
I have been an online marketer for quite some time and what I noticed on facebook is that it always changes - one of the many examples was when online marketers were making lots of money through traffic arbitrage using Facebook ads to promote their blog posts with some teasing titles like that of bored panda and then monetizing their blog with Adsense and native ads - Facebook stop it.

Before facebook allows promoting dating ads but when CPA marketers were earning big, Facebook halted it.

Now, with the recent rise of cryptocurrency marketers and earning a lot as well, Facebook, as usual, banned the same.

I think facebook really doesn't want random online marketers to earn big with their platform and at the same time, they are trying to protect their user base when certain trends tend to be abused by some fraudster - I am not saying that all crypto advertisers are fraudster but there are really some I think.

With Twitter, they are quite lenient but eventually follow suit most of the time but not as aggressive as Facebook and Google.
I learned a lot from this. Thank for your thoughts. If Facebook implemented the banned. I have no choice but to increase my Twitter followers.

Well, I think that is the best way to promote any of your crypto related information through your twitter account and not through promotional ads. I don't think so though that twitter already follows facebook in banning of cryptocurrency, ICO, and other similar kinds of paid promotions.
299  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Possibility that Twitter will follow the advertising ban of Facebook? on: February 01, 2018, 02:05:36 AM
I just wondering the impacts of Facebook advertising ban on the cryptocurrencies. What if Twitter follows the advertising ban? Is the results will be damaging to cryptoworld? Your thoughts...

If they ban it, Twitter will ban only paid advertisements.
Most of ICO's are making twitter campaign. Those are private tweets and Twitter will not censor it.

Makes sense. And Twitter will surely not ban crypto twitter accounts where they are tweeting updates and announcement of the coin. In other words, they will just put a stop so that those who take advantage of social media advertising platform to spread scam-like crypto promotions as it harms their user base.
300  Other / Meta / Re: Merit System Solution on: February 01, 2018, 02:01:56 AM
Banning the signature campaigns here completely will result in a large number of users leaving this forum. Whether the members accept this or not, most of them are here for that. New registrations are also being done with the hope that one day they will be eligible for these campaigns. There might be 1% people here who are interested in gaining knowledge about Bitcoins.

Yes, I agree to that and the merit system is I think the best solution than removing signature campaigns totally in the forum.
When people are getting used to the merit system, everything will be smooth and it would be like the facebook like button where it would be second nature to us to award merits to those deserving.

I believe this is not the final solution and Theymos team is surely tracking this and will do appropriate actions in the future regarding gaming the merit system.

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