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1161  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do YOU sell? on: September 09, 2017, 12:00:49 PM
I think 5% profit and miss the rest of the 95% increase is better and with the wait to get a 100% profit and risk not getting any because the price has fallen.
I prefer to order more than 3% - 5% depending on the price of that currency

3% increase is really not hard to get with traiding. In fact, you can easily gain 3% in few minutes to an hour depending on where you made your open buy. With this low amount of target gain, you get confident along the way with your trading journey compared to targetting like high percentage and take you several weeks to month to earn and sometimes emotions got you and sell at wrong time and wrng price.
1162  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: September 09, 2017, 11:57:53 AM
dont quit. just keep play with small money first. it will make you feel good even you lost all your money
I believe he dont need your advice anymore =)))

Yes, you are right I think the person already quit the trading and he is happy with what he has. I think we cannot forcefully ask him to continue for trading because he should show some interest towards trading. If he doesn't have any interest towards trading then he took the right decision for not participating in trading.

I agree with you. It is really base on personal preference. There are good traders out there that are really doing well but are not good cooks. And there are good cooks, in fact, really good cooks and tried trading but not able to manage to have some winning trades. s
1163  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: September 09, 2017, 09:59:36 AM
This question has been discussed allot already, There is no effective strategy and making profit from a certain strategy regardless of what it is is purely based on luck, hence, if you are following something and making profit from it then it's luck, but no particular skill or mathematical edge.
True! We can come across people who claim to use strategies in dice game and find a lot of articles on Google related to it. But the gamblers who actually play this game are very well aware of the fact that there are no tricks or tactics to win dice. It just involves luck. Nothing more, nothing less!
People are trying to find winning strategy in Dice game, but no strategy will work fine for the long term. Some times it will work, but it is not based on strategy it is based on our luck it will work. I also try to make new strategy whenever I play this game just for my satisfaction, but the result should be same.
With gambling there is no specific winning strategy. For each game a specific strategy needs to be developed and just few people will succeed in it. It's good to play based on the luck rather than on the strategy. When it comes to sports betting, user might get of implementing some common strategies that are successful.

totally agree with you ,  there no strategy in dice gambling even in gambling , so if someone told you there is best strategy ask him to give you strategy to win the Jackpot , the gambling is depends of luck and little 0.5% of intelligent

Luck has little to do in gambling to be honest. It is just mathematical statistics at work here. Because there is a house edge that means statistically you are less likely to win than the casinos. This small percentage yeah looks small, but it isn't! There is a big different if you calculate it in the millions of bets, because in a million bets you will see the big difference.

Basically you only have about a 47% to 48% chance of winning at dice games because the house takes a 2% to 3% of every roll. What this means is that the house gets about 2% to 3% of the money from all bets. They will always make this money in addition to the other 47% to 48% of all losses. Overall there is no way to win mathematically unless you just get lucky or quit while you are ahead.

With the games that are based on pure luck, you will get only profitable when you are lucky enough and win some good gain and stop. Being lucky and winning should be followed by stopping right away otherwise, you may lose that lucky win if you wont stop.
1164  Other / Off-topic / Re: Would you give bitcoin as a wedding gift? on: September 09, 2017, 09:45:56 AM
Sure.

 But ... certainly only limited to friends who use bitcoin only.

It doesn't necessarily have to be limited to friends who use bitcoin only, though it may be hard giving bitcoin to someone who has no single idea what you have given them and preferably better when given to someone who will appreciate it much better but you can actually use it to draw someone in on the knowledge of what bitcoin is all about. That makes it a +1.

When the couple has no knowledge at all about bitcoin, it would be very fun giving them some and introduce them to the world of bitcoin - just make it sure that you are introducing it in a way that they will only keep or invest it to grow it more rather than cashing it right away for their honeymoon Smiley
1165  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: September 09, 2017, 09:43:13 AM
Do you gamble for fun or for profit?
I gamble for profits at the same time for fun also. We need sometime to enjoy our selves to gamble but not all the time. I only gamble if i want and i need it too some saying why i choose gambling but they don't know my reason why i gamble.

as i don't make much profit then i am considering to playing gambling for fun. i realized that for me, i am not capable to make big money in gambling games and so far, i am enjoy while i am playing the games. but i have a dream that in one day, suddenly i can hit the jackpot so i can make big winning and big money.

This should be the mind setting of each gambler - they should just think of gambling as for fun and at the same time realize that they most of the time get some loses than winning. This way, the said gambler is not going to bet more because he/she knows for a fact that it would mean more losses as well.
1166  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: September 09, 2017, 09:39:37 AM
To forget about gambling forever you need to find yourself a very interesting hobby that will bring the same pleasure and can even better than gambling.

It will really hard to forget gambling for the rest of our lives in just a short period of time after we are hooked and get addicted into it. It is is just not that easy - there should be a slow process like instead of gambling in the whole day and most late night, you better gamble in just couple of hours in the morning already and then get a lesser time the next day until you finally comfortable of not playing or gambling in any given day.
It is a fact that giving up on gambling is not an easy task at all. Once you get addicted to it, then there are a little chances to get rid of it. you have told quite an effective method to quit gambling and that is just to reduce the total daily in a day that you have set up for gambling .if you gamble for 5 hours or so then it must be reduced to half of it. In short quitting this thing is nothing more than a slow and gradual process.

I think of a person who is addicted to gambling keeps chasing losses and tries to make them up then its impossible for them to make any money let alone try to make some profit. However there are players who will withdraw after a win and not gamble all their money at once. Those who follow strict rules in the gambling schedule will nevertheless curb their losses to a minimum amount.
If someone is trying to recoup his losses, then he is not an addict but a desperate foolish person kicking in the air. Addict is someone who cannot give up on his game even if he wants to, someone who keeps coming back even if he has no reason. Chasing a bad habit...

A stupid foolish person that dont learn from the mistake. Im pretty sure that there are alot of example of people that have lose alot more when they decide to go for more. In the end people dont really care about this kind of stuff until they lose their money or atleast until they come back to their senses

Could not agree with you more mate. Even though there are really many gamblers who have the same predicaments where they keep on gambling even though they have lots of losses already. They want to chase those losses and hope that they can get it back but most of the time not - unless they are lucky enough.
1167  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: September 09, 2017, 09:33:30 AM
Gambling is very addicting because it actives the Adrenalin hormone in your body and makes your body feel much better.
Also, when you  lose money you will always once to return it back, and that's the point where you are getting into troubles, you are trying to return your lost money and you lose more money then you planned on losing.


The reason why you land up in trouble because as you said that once you loose you would like to return back happens to those people who consider gambling as a business of making money. This people do not gamble for relaxation, fun or enjoyment and this is the starting of the problem in their life as mostly they will become addictive to it and will lose money.

It's the dopamine that attaches to your receptors and make you feel good and you want to feel that again and definitely, it would require a lot more gambling to attain it again because, in the long run, you would lose. The house edge is pretty hardcore especially in casinos, they take advantage of everything so much that you won't realise that you are already gambling everything you own.

When you let emotions run your betting sessions, there is a big tendency that you are going to lose it all. There is really nothing wrong with casinos but their games are already programmed that they will going to win in the long run with the so called house edge advantage. Now, if you think and always remember this, you will not bet high.
1168  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 09, 2017, 09:31:19 AM
I think there's no wrong on gambling the one who gamble and gamble over and over again even if he didn't benefit from that's the real wrong and besides gambling can be dated long ago we should know the history of it.

It is wrong because we spent alot of money if we treat it as entertainment then we wont really be spending alot of money so it depends on the person. For my current situation, I dont feel that it is wrong to gamble because I only gamble for fun thus I only use small amount so nothing wrong with me currently

I gamble to kill my free time and for my entertainment. And I am ready to lose some part my money to play gambling. This is my decision, so if anything can happen to me, it's my own risk. like this how people can treat this gambling is matter. if we take it just for fun, then it is not wrong. But if you choose to gamble to make money and addicted it is wrong.

Most especially if you are already betting a big sum of money that you can't afford to lose. Much more if you are already using family long time savings and already selling some properties just to satisfy your gambling addiction.
1169  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: September 09, 2017, 09:28:01 AM
I don't know why there are people that are looking gambling with small capital isn't a smart way. What do you want to do gamble with big money even you don't have any assurance that you can profit from it? It's one of the strategies that I've been doing and I can say this is a very effective gambling method.
i think that it is a good idea that if we play gambling with a little amount of money, because through this way we are reducing the chances of losing money. actually in gambling we are mostly depending on our luck therefore we are mostly not sure about our investment that either we will make money from it or will lose our own investment, therefore it will be the best idea to always invest small amount of money

This is applicable to those gamblers that aren't hardcore and for those small time gamblers. This is a good way to facilitate your budget and will maximizing yourself by thinking to be careful when you gamble. As you only have 1 goal and that is to make that small amount grow and it's very possible and considerable as a smart way.
A small step in forward direction is still a progress. Gambling with a very limited amount is for sure a safe game. The winnings and losing won't have a great impact on total capital but if someone is playing this way, then he is just having fun not gambling. Gambling is about challenging your luck.

Definitely and I do agree that you just bet with the small amount of money that you can afford to lose and still you are having fun and entertainment with this setup. However, when you get greedy, that is the start of some disappointment when you are already betting high amounts of money and are experiencing loses.
1170  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin transaction fees fair? on: September 09, 2017, 09:22:57 AM
Everyone wanted higher bitcoin price and we achieved this but another problem become transaction fees. When bitcoin's price was low, we had to pay also low fee and now when it rised, we have to pay high fee in bitcoins and plus that high fee is more higher with current price. Is this fair? The higher the price, the more money miners have with bitcoin exchange.
To my mind when price becomes high, we have to pay low fee and when it becomes low, than fee has to be high. To my mind it had to be done like this from the begining.
I think the rise of transaction fees is just fair because bitcoin price rate also rises which means greater opportunity to gain and earn an income. It is not fair if we bitcoin users are earning big but those people who are behind the processing of our transactions which are the miners are just earning a little amount because we prefer of paying low transaction fees for the transaction process to be done as soon as possible. The rise of the price rate is pretty nice so as is with the transaction fee rate. They must both come along with the rise so that both parties between the users/consumers and the miners will be just fair and equal so no one will be left behind and just one party will be dominant over the other.
the price of the bitcoin is very high and it is increasing as the time is spending so it is fair enough today the bitcoin transaction is much low as compare to the bank fees the transaction fees of the bitcoin is 0.005 and it is very low according to me but the charges of the banks are very high and there are a lot of tax for the bank amount as compare of the bitcoin.

Bitcoin is just simply awesome because there is freedom of use by the coin holder with the sense of anonymity. However, we all know that there is no freedom without the law or in other words, there is really no absolute things in this world - hence, we should lived by the bitcoin transaction fees and just be wise enough to have some planned bitcoin transactions.
1171  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: September 09, 2017, 09:20:05 AM
Both will work in tandem, eventually whether it will be bitcoin or another major cryptocoin banks will accept and use them as any normal currencies.

When government sets into bitcoin, then having bitcoin transactions with banks is really will happen. However, I doubt that regulations will come with bitcoins because the very reason why bitcoin was created is to rebel against regulations by the government.
1172  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: September 09, 2017, 09:17:24 AM
Gambling is good for fun but you cannot expect to make regular profits from it as you will win only if you are lucky and luck will not always be on your side every time so I will prefer to invest my money from where I can generate regular profits and investing in good altcoins seems to be the best option for me.

gambling is really not investing unless we invest to the casino and not going to play to that casino. Gambling should only look at as an avenue to relieve stress and get entertained and having a fun time and not for profit..

It is not and it will never be. In gambling site investment, it is EV+ that is why you are going to get profit in the long term but in gambling it will always be EV- so dont even think of trying to get profit in the long term. You could get some profit though if you are lucky however luck is not really something that you could get all the time
Yeah it is sure that gambling could never be profitable in long terms. If you really want to earn huge amounts through some reliable method then the only way is to prefer investments instead of gambling so that you might not get negative results in the end. In other words, only those people who have little or no fear of losing money must go for gambling while others should prefer investment sites.

At the end of the day, it will be upon each individual's preference as to whether that person is going to be heading to - gambling or investing. But these are good advice and reminders about potential lost if you go for gambling due to the house edge advantage.
1173  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why some people prefer Bitcoin over fiat ? on: September 09, 2017, 09:13:31 AM
Some people prefer bitcoin because it is not just a fiat that you can use for many transaction but also a sort of having an investment in your pocket. Bitcoin is very safe to use and also very fast its like a credit card. Nowadays bitcoin value continue to appreciate that's why if you are holding your coins few months ago maybe you are enjoying the harvest of it.
Fiat can only be used for transaction purposes and the bitcoin purposes are much more than transaction. It is also as you say a business and investment in coin business. As one buys something else to sell it out to others and earn some money, the same is bitcoin the peoplewho have bought it on low price, now they have a lot of earnings if they sell their bitcoin in this day. This is a sound currency business.


Among other reasons, and I think why bitcoin shines, is the fact that it is not regulated by government agencies. There is freedom of its use among its holders.. Whether it be used for bad or good, it is fine.. because after all, even fiat money are being used for either good or bad transactions as well.
1174  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: September 09, 2017, 12:07:30 AM
I think you should hold your bitcoin and wait for it to grow maybe in that way you can have some steady income but you can join in some signature campaigns too and it is a help.
Probably your best bet is to buy and hold some BTC and wait for a long period for growth. But buying and holding bitcoin is not a steady income. And as what you’ve said, you can really join signature campaign. You can easily make a bit of coin doing simple forum posting - for example a full member can earn 0.0003 btc per post, which is nice pocket change especially if you were going to post anyway.
There is no other best way of earning bitcoins on regular basis other than joining bitcoins. Holding bitcoins for longer time do produce great profits but of course you can’t use them for steady income. Bitcoins are very nice creation and I am thankful to the creator for helping masses to improve their lives.
There lives won't improve if they do not work for it, we are not getting any free bitcoin here if you are talking about making money
in joining signature campaign then that is not an easy job we only given reward if we follow the rules, but I can assure you it will not help
improve the life of the masses, we cannot all do this kind of job.

Signature campaign is a good source of side income - I use my signature income to pay for my car loan amortization. However, it is not my main source of income because it is just not enough if I only rely on it. I am so grareful though that I am earning with signature campaign.

The lesson is that, we need to have multiple streams of income in order to get some steady and reliable income.
1175  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: September 07, 2017, 09:59:32 AM
What are you guys experiences in investing in Yolodice? Is it worth trying? Did you make money or loose? I just started with the minimum amount, just to try. Maybe I will put in more later on.

After about a month I believe I've made around 7% returns

I didn't have the same luck but I didn't keep my investment for long since I had to use it for something else
I was positive with yolodice mostly

However recently all casinos were turning a negative profit for me so I gave up on bankroll investments
Even Crypto-Games, which were dealing the biggest profit for the longest time
SafeDice was mostly negative for me

But at first you were having profits, right? What is your overall experience with investing in Crypto-Games? Was it profitable in whole? I thought the site was very successful in the past, that's why I'm asking.

What is the point of asking? I believe every gambling investment sure profitable in the end. But as you know all investment bear some huge risk but not in gambling industry because what they really need to do is get as much profit as they can and they boost their profit by setting house edge. This is why you will profitable in the end so there is no need to worry about gambling investment

No, of course not. Far from that in fact. Only some gambling investments are profitable and most of them are not. I personally know two people who tried to run a gambling site and failed in the end. If it was that easy everybody would open a gambling site and become rich.

Merely opening and running a gambling site is not enough. There is a need for marketing, advertising, signature campaign, seo, and the like. Even big online casinos are offering some bonuses just to entice players to play on their site. You really need a big capital when you want to build a very successful online gambling sites.
1176  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Criminality and Bitcoin on: September 07, 2017, 09:57:05 AM
These are all attempts by the government to blame bitcoin. They have already started a smear campaign of bitcoin. In fact the government is stealing perfectly Fiat and in my eyes they are greater criminals than those who uses for illegal transactions bitcoin.

the government will and can create unlimited fiat money and with that act, it creates inflation - it is where the value of your money is getting low compared to the original value you obtained it. This is why bitcoin was created and there is a sort of rebellion from this regulations and offers a freedom to spend your bitcoin without necessarily noting your identity
1177  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin cannot replace currency in the world because price is not stable on: September 07, 2017, 09:53:08 AM
Bitcoin is a long way from becoming a currency you can live your life in. You also only have 7 transactions a second. But that doesn't mean Bitcoin isn't immensely valuable as a medium-term and long-term store of value
Honestly it is true that bitcoin cannot replace currency in the world because price is not stable just like the exchanges money to other country. I believe that eventhough bitcoin price is not stable it would not be a currency in the world.

It is actually getting its fare popularity among tech people in the world and the good thing with bitcoin is that everyone can pay for it outright without any government and bank regulations from the countries you make some commercial transactions with.
1178  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: September 07, 2017, 09:51:26 AM
   I do not like slot machines, you just press button and slot make some spins and stop, so where is the fun? Some slots are so colorful that I feel dizziness after looking at it for more then a minute.
That is not good for your mind, slot machines, you do not use your brain cells in quality way, you just press and press button for more spins. I can not imagine what kind of strategy you can apply
on slot machines?
   There are much better gambling games, where you actually use your brain and you need to have skills if you wish to win. I respect everyone`s choices, I just expressed my opinion about slots.
You are right the slot games are not more entertaining after playing few minutes we will get bored. But many players will like this game. Why because it is easy to play and if we have the luck we can make a big profit in just a few minutes. It is just spin and stops game but some people will enjoy this method, and they like to play this type of games. I will play slot games very rarely.

Slot games are really based on pure luck - if we are after profit, we rarely get it with slot games because of the house edge and there is no way for us to really input some skills on the game. Although we can setup some betting percentage and all that, it is still not enough and the odds will always be against us. Better play it just for fun and entertainment with no intention of profiting.

I don't think anyone who's playinh slots are seriously thinking of actually making profits. Most of the time it's just to pass time and enjoy a few rounds of doing what you're not sure of doing Cheesy
That's for sure! Imagining gaining profits from slots is just useless. Poker can be of some help if you play with strategy but slots and dice don't give a chance. It is all about your luck. It is best to just enjoy the game and stop thinking about outcomes. Basically, it gives a break from daily routine.

If you are skillful enough, you will win more with poker than slots and dice games because the last 2 games are based on pure luck while poker has some skill and luck combined.
1179  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 07, 2017, 09:44:46 AM
someone in bitsler has won 26 BTC in gambling , i think you couldn't win that such number of bitcoin if you don't take risks

Exactly, you won't get to win that amount if you aren't ready to take some risk. And in simplest word, you will not win if you will not bet. And there's nothing wrong with this philosophy as long as you are the one that's responsible with your losses. You aren't going to blame others with your mistake and misfortune but kudos to this guy 26 bitcoin isn't a joke.
26 BTC is a very huge amount, there is no denial in it but still I won't be tempted by this. There are people who have even made millions of dollars by gambling but the fact is they are very rare, merely 0.001 percent of whole gambling population maybe or even less. I will go for more reliable methods. The guy was lucky this time but won't be same every time.

That's the hard part of it, the temptation. The way of thinking that you've got a lot of bitcoins now and you can gamble for so long. And you won't be having any problem with finance because you've got a lot of bucks. People like this are very few, they are the lucky ones and it's not wrong for them to gamble anymore as they experienced it alone.

When you have so much for bankroll, you tend to be carefree in betting without realizing that you are slowly depleting your money. But there is really nothing wrong with gambling because it is indeed a good way to have fun and entertainment - but when you say you want to get profit out of it or you make it as your goal, then it would be very risky and disappointing most of the time.
1180  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to earn Bitcoin without investment on: September 07, 2017, 09:42:34 AM

Find a rewarding affiliate program on a crypto blockchain backed platform. For me I really like Genesis Mining because I've already had good results from it. If you like writing material and content you can find signature campaigns to participate in on Bitcointalk.

Doing affiliate marketing that pays bitcoin is one of the alternatives of accumulating bitcoins. If you are good at ranking keywords, you can create a website with bitcoin related content and promote it there.
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