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901  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Criminality and Bitcoin on: October 17, 2017, 09:28:28 AM
Yes, bitcoin is helping the criminality.
We have to change some things on I think. More regulation will help bitcoin.


well shoes do, too. and knives. and telephones. every technology can be abused. where did the idea come from that a new technology should not be able to get abused? that is impossible.

regulate what? the (possible) criminal use of bitcoin? that is already regulated because it is illegal . the lawful use? why regulate that?

That is so true mate! Smiley Even fiat money that is regulated are subject to illegal use by criminals. Therefore, there is no way for us to be certain that once bitcoin will be regulated it will be free from criminal abuse.
902  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: October 17, 2017, 08:35:51 AM
I think experience can definitely help. to be honest, there is always luck involved as we aren't playing the game ourselves. But with a great money management one can achieve a lot in betting. You also need to have a system which is backtested from yourself over years. If you can achieve a Yield of 5% in the long run on big markets, this is a great number.

That's right, you even need to be experienced to think of having a plan for your financial management when it comes to gambling because many that go in without a plan realize their folly later on and then start staking with a consistent bankroll afterwards. It is best if you've gained some experience about a particular game when you gamble and that coupled with a little luck can make everyone a successful gambler.

The more you learn out from your gambling, the more you will realize how to place yourself in a situation where what you are really trying to do is just to have fun and entertainment for gambling, when you are lucky it is an added bonus but that is it. If you really want to earn more money, work hard for it and build that system on how you get it and duplicate.
903  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: October 17, 2017, 07:34:36 AM
If your main goal is to make profit while gambling, then you will be always sad when you lose and this has really nothing to do with fun. If you gamble mainly for fun and don't care much about losing, then you will have fun by just gambling and in my opinion this is the sense of gambling. If I want to make continuously money, I better go the serious trading or investing section.

You hit it sartoga! Smiley if you are just playing or gambling for fun and you are really not after for money, at the end of the session will be having fun regardless of the turnout - whether you win or lose that session. The main goal is to have fun and if it is no longer fun, better stop right away.
904  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we make more money? on: October 17, 2017, 07:31:04 AM
What are the things to do to succeed in trade? What are you doing to make your business bigger?
How can we make more money?
If we like to make more money we have to find a many job for making a money and then we have to discipline ourselves if we are in job to make yourself promoted.
making more money coming from a day job will be not a good option much preferred to find investment or businesses that will make you a tons
of money since a paying job will limit you to grab a big money so better to find better ways and if you can find more time to this forum you will
be able to be guided by those who made a big success from their investment.

I could not agree more with you mate. Having a business and some investment is the best option and offers more financial security than day jobs. I am now nurturing my business and hopefully will have some big investment in the coming months. My goal is to have multiple stream of income and make it as passive income as possible.
905  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: October 17, 2017, 07:17:41 AM
i think it's not wrong. you will get more losses if be addicted and  you will get fun if play for entertainment. it depends on you


I could not agree with you more mate, gambling is really not bad as long as you are just playing for fun and only using money that you can afford to lose. However, it will only become bad because of us when we try to play more than we should and is betting money that big enough that we cannot already afford to lose.

Right! Gambling is fun and its supposed to be enjoyed by all of us it became wrong if we start become greedy and do stupid things just for the sake of gambling.
Gambling is for fun? I'm not sure for that. I bet you, for those who have came for gambling to casino, only have purpose to be winner then grabs a money.
Then gambling for fun? are you sure those guys have playing with faucet (click bet with a cents money like for fun?).

Hey, calm down mate Smiley I am not saying that you will be playing with faucet, definitely not! That is indeed not fun at all.. What I am saying is that play with money that you can afford to lose. To my counting, I am averaging around .05 - .1 btc all in all to play for fun to 4 online casinos. I am all good that I can lose it all because but if I win that is an added bonus - although I am not aiming on profiting - just really for fun.

I am not so sure with the people who said it did not intend to make a profit but only for having fun. How do they like to spend their money and it is a fun thing? I think not.

Such folks are just lying to themselves and the earlier they realize it the better. I am a realist and i know when i loose a bet and  don't find reasons to justify my losses like those folks. It's best that way because you can quit gambling any tim,e with that mindset rather than keep encouraging yourself as having fun but in reality you're loosing money.

I totally understand but that is really not my point mate. What I am saying is that I can afford to lose that money in exchange of fun - I am covered with my main source of income and other major streams of income. With that kind of amount, I am ok losing that but it will not hold true to all - it is just me, others might be ok with just .001 or .0001 - that is my point.
906  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin cannot replace currency in the world because price is not stable on: October 17, 2017, 07:12:37 AM
bitcoin cannot replace currency in the world because price is not stable.

currency should be more stable.

you may reply me. currency is not stable also but you should think 

USD currency price is up and down 1-2% in 1 month.

bitcoin price is up and down 20% in 1 month.

what will people think if they just change USD to bitcoin then their money down 10% in 10 minutes?

bitcoin can become stock but cannot become currency

Bitcoin is made to be a global currency and not as stock.

Why is bitcoin so volatile?

Because bitcoin is in a very VERY young stage. The system isn't final yet. There are lots of updates to be made in the future that can determine if bitcoin will continue to be the de-facto of cryptocurrencies or not. Not to mention that we haven't achieved global adoption yet.

The USD has been around since forever. So common sense should tell you that it will be stable compared to crypto that hasn't even been around for more than a decade yet.

Do your own research.

But you are forgetting that USD or any other fiat  currency is controlled by the government and Bitcoin is not controlled by anyone so price fluctuation is a common in Bitcoin. I agree with OP that Bitcoin is more like a Investment option then currency mode.


I also consider bitcoin as an investment or an asset that will have a great value over. Maybe other bitcoin are so amazed of its price for now to make them think bitcoin can replace the current existing fiat. Every currency in each country is being controlled by its government. They have laws and regulations for using these currencies. So I think bitcoin is so far from being regulated by the government,  and of course the bitcoin users will never agree for centralization.

if I think that bitcoin is unstable, and my guess is that bitcoin can not replace the original currency in the country that we use as transaction tool.
because in the case of replacing it is not easy. there must be a rule as well so what this title is true is true.

Bitcoin was not really created to replace the fiat money and in fact, it should not be because fiat money is regulated by the government whole bitcoin is designed not to. That is one of the many reasons why bitcoin will not replace fiat but can go hand in hand with fiat money and it will then be the people preference what to use.
907  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why some people prefer Bitcoin over fiat ? on: October 17, 2017, 06:56:39 AM
Some people prefer Bitcoin over fiat because Bitcoin provide them some features such as profitable investments, easy access, opportunity to earn, fast and riskfree transactions etc which fiat money dont provides them .Moreover there no need for them to pay taxes for the transactions they make through Bitcoin.

What I am seeing right now and this is also based on research that majority of the people who are having bitcoins prefers to hold or invest than spend it for small items to stores both online or offline. I myself included that I hold and invest bitcoin than use it for any small purchases Smiley
908  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: October 17, 2017, 06:44:39 AM
hi guys, i bought 1BTC today and i am wondering to gamble or to invest the 1btc?

if to gamble
 
best site to gamble with a really nice provably fair..

and if to invest.

best investment program wherein no scam.

thank you for your opinions guys

cheers


The thing is, gambling and investing are almost the same. When you invest on something, you don't know if it's going to be successful or not, the earnings could be doubled or nothing. So, in a way, you also gamble when you invest.

I think we should not use the word gambling when we are referring to professional trading.. we should use the word risk only. Unless we are trading out of knowhere without any strategies at all. When you are a skillful trader, you are not gambling your trades, you are just risking with a higher probable of winning that trade.
909  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: October 16, 2017, 02:47:30 PM
These are not exactly same. One is for enjoyment and another one is for making money.

But the thing is, the other one is going at the pace that they are not being an enjoyment but an addiction, a shortcut for being rich and wealthy, that is gambling for them. Trading is for making money so that is obvious that trading is far more better than gambling.
both ways will earn you a income but trading is always is better it has less risk involved when losing your funds in gambling you can lose you bankroll really fast and also to recover it it's impossible while for trading as the market is down now you can easily regain in the future

You can also recover your losses in gambling quickly with a big win, i don't think it will be fair of we completely ridicule gambling because it can also fetch you some decent money like trading if you're a bit careful because everything associated with gambling is in the instant whereas that of trading is gradual even though both are risky.

There is really nothing wrong with gambling and it all depends on the gambler as to whether or not he/she will bet more and more. However, if you aim at gambling for big profit regularly, better change your mind because one way or another, you will be hit with the house edge advantage. Better just play for fun and entertainment.

There goes the fun and entertainment guys again, i don't think there's something like loosing money for fun and so you guys out there should be truthful to yourself and accept the fact that you've lost a bet rather than consoling yourselves with reasons like having fun and entertainment. I can't stand you guys!

hey mate, you need to respect our view on gambling Wink I was once a heavy gambler and fortunejack, primedice, and bitsler people can attest to that because I've lost a couple of whole bitcoins playing there. I guess more than 3 bitcoins in FJ, 2 bitcoins in primedice, and 1 bitcoin in bitsler (not to mention other sites Wink ). However, I am now playing just for fun and entertainment with a bankroll like .05 - .1 btc to risk and never expect to get it back again but if it wins, it is an added bonus.
910  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: October 16, 2017, 02:42:14 PM
I hate slot games. They so boring. They just have cute pictures and dance graphics and a few effects and sounds. Nothing special. You don't even do anything. Just push a button or crank a lever and sit back and hope. They don't even give you a fake sense of being in control because they only thing you in control of is the size of your bet and that is usually very small since slots has massive multipliers and jackpots. I think the people just like pulling the lever on the land based slot machines or hear the coins as you cash out. Tingle tingle they go.
You are so like me in this case. It is the worst game that has been invented ever. What is fun in watching three slots getting same object and how much work do we have to do in this ? Even dice games are better than slots though not very much different but at least we can play with an opponent who is not machine. I have been never ever fond of such games where you have zero control.

Agree on that that we seem to place our chance of winning to the very uncertain and uncontrollable slot machines. However, I really want to play slot games in teh real brick and mortar casinos where you can really feel it and hear the sound physically with other players on the vicinity versus, lone betting here in my room Smiley
911  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: October 16, 2017, 02:39:22 PM
I guess the best way to play smart in gambling is set a limit on how much loss you can take and a goal on how much profit you can earn. Its the same thing with trading, your number 1 enemy in gambling is your emotion. Some gamblers don't know when enough is enough. Bringing someone with you when you play is a good idea to remind you if you reached your limit.

If we set limit, we dont have to worry about losing alot of money especially money that we shouldnt be using. Alot of people think that there is no use to set limit but for me it is very useful. By setting some limit, it means we are playing smartly already. We dont play to win but we play for fun and if we win then that is a good bonus for us

Setting a limit is like an automatic stop when we reach the threshold of coins that we can afford to lose or an amount that we target to gain. Having this setup alone is not enough though because you need to also add your will and discipline to really stop playing when you reach your target numbers - this way, you are playing smart, for fun, and straightforward. So it seems that there is really nothing to lose after all.
You have to control your emotion so you can be successful in following your limit, without a limit will only make you indiscipline because your game plan cannot be followed anymore and you are gambling without direction when your emotion is too high. We want to win but if we do not have a good method that is not going to be possible, maybe we can have fun by winning sometimes but we are looking for long term success.

Yes, controlling one emotion is really a must not just in gambling but in trading and in investing as well. Without that control, you will be on the loose and may even do some rage betting the money that you can honestly not afford to lose. With gambling that involves skills, then the longer and the more games you play, the more experienced and wiser you become playing it well.
912  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: October 16, 2017, 02:34:03 PM
Experience can sometimes be useful in games like poker or sports betting, but still a high probability of success depends on luck, not on years of experience.

People think we can make fortunes with the experience they have in gambling, but it is completely wrong because they should understand gambling is completely based on luck.

In as much as i agree with you that experience doesn't guarantee gambling success, i also disagree that gambling is completely based on luck because some gambling games can be predicted with common sense and critical analysis. I'm a regular with sports bets and i have a great contro;l over my games and i manage wins every now and then with my insight.
still when you think certain games are can be predicted with certain way/analysis , gambling are gambling where the outcome are uncertain and random. you can make an accurate prediction , you need luck in the end. sometimes people think that looking for a strategy/analysis in gambling are useles, wasting time. better to do it randomly for the sake of having fun.
I would not think it's a waste of time because I know as long as I choose a game that is based on skills I have a chance to be consistent when I will continue to improve my strategy. Finding ways to win is very challenging because you will not be consistent in few tries, you will have to loss and learn from your mistakes so you will be an improve gambler but you have to determine it yourself if you are really into this kind of journey or not so you can make a timely decision to quit or continue.

When gambling is a game that requires skills, by all means, experienced really matters. Take a closer look at poker and sports betting, players who are veteran and skilled gamblers on that field have always more winning than losing. This is because they are honing their skills to win and after a couple of games, days, months, and years of experienced, they will learn something that not any beginner players are seeing.
913  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do YOU sell? on: October 16, 2017, 02:29:27 PM
Only at all time highs but I try to never sell. It's best to keep your stash growing so that the fiat value can grow exponentially each year.
If we can keep our bitcoins longer the better because the value continues to grow, we have to think more on our goal so we will not be tempted to sell. We always have a chance to sell and make profit but we should aim more because bitcoin is destine to be great and that means the price will rise substantially as it continue to be in the circulation.

As what a good friend of mine told me about selling bitcoin, he said that diversification still applies and should be your guiding principles regardless of the up and down of bitcoin prices. Now, that diversification he was referring to was that if your only investment is bitcoin, you can at least diversify it by taking a certain percentage purposely to cashout and the retain the rest.
914  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we make more money? on: October 16, 2017, 12:42:21 PM
What are the things to do to succeed in trade? What are you doing to make your business bigger?
How can we make more money?

Spending much more time on your business is the key of success. Not only trading, but also if you are engineer or somebody else, you have to work on your business hard. Then money comes days, months or years later. People need to work hard and focus on what they are looking for. In additon don't forget to do it willingly.

I totally agree - even Michael Jorda, Lebron James, Floyd Mayweather, and other superstars are still practicing and honing their skills how much more the people who are just ordinary players or in our case, how much more if we are just a simple and ordinary trader? Practice makes perfect and it does not mean that there is an end to practice to becoming perfect because it needs to have a regular practice to perfection.
915  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: October 16, 2017, 12:38:31 PM
Because even if you lose you still find way to gamble after all. And when you win a little you totally happy and then you are inspired to do gambling again to try another luck on it.

In short, it is our emotion that is the driving factor that we are going back and want to gamble again and again. For me, that emotion is focus on having fun and entertainment while I think others are really for the gain - at the end of the day when both of us experienced a losing session, I will be ok but I am not sure with the other whose aim is for profit Smiley
916  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to earn Bitcoin without investment on: October 16, 2017, 12:35:04 PM
Hey Bitcoiners? I'm desperate to start earning BTC
I'll do any kind of online activity as long as there's a Bitcoin payment. Where do I start?
If you want to earn Bitcoins without investment, then signature and social media campaigns are the easiest ways to earn Bitcoins. You can earn good amounts of money by participating in campaigns.
You can also work as a freelancer on various free lancer websites. You can work as a graphic designer or a translator and earn Bitcoins for completing the job given to you.
You can also earn Bitcoins from various Bitcoin faucets .Bitcoin faucets are a reward system, in the form of a website or app, that dispenses rewards in the form of a satoshi.

and to add to that: it is really not necessary to work and earn bitcoin if you want to have one because all you need to do is just work on your present job or business and just buy or convert some of your fiat money to bitcoin. That is the easiest way to get bitcoin, buy it with your fiat money so that you no longer need to chase any job to work for bitcoin.
917  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: October 16, 2017, 12:31:44 PM
i think it's not wrong. you will get more losses if be addicted and  you will get fun if play for entertainment. it depends on you


I could not agree with you more mate, gambling is really not bad as long as you are just playing for fun and only using money that you can afford to lose. However, it will only become bad because of us when we try to play more than we should and is betting money that big enough that we cannot already afford to lose.

Right! Gambling is fun and its supposed to be enjoyed by all of us it became wrong if we start become greedy and do stupid things just for the sake of gambling.
Gambling is for fun? I'm not sure for that. I bet you, for those who have came for gambling to casino, only have purpose to be winner then grabs a money.
Then gambling for fun? are you sure those guys have playing with faucet (click bet with a cents money like for fun?).

Hey, calm down mate Smiley I am not saying that you will be playing with faucet, definitely not! That is indeed not fun at all.. What I am saying is that play with money that you can afford to lose. To my counting, I am averaging around .05 - .1 btc all in all to play for fun to 4 online casinos. I am all good that I can lose it all because but if I win that is an added bonus - although I am not aiming on profiting - just really for fun.
918  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: October 16, 2017, 12:27:15 PM
im done with gamble.. since only host/dealer that have sure win.. its better to learn trading rather than depends on our luck..

Then you should have think about investing in the gambling house? There is no harm in trying, who knows, you have no luck in gambling, but in investing in it might also turn the tide around.

Both are risky, none of those could give you a sure and secure income, however, at those two, I think gambling sites has good reputation.

between the 2, I will certainly choose to invest in gambling sites that accept third-party investors for their bankroll. However, I will still be gambling sometimes just to relieve some stress and just have fun betting money that I can afford to lose. The first one is to target some gain while the latter will be for pure fun and entertainment.
919  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: October 16, 2017, 12:13:09 PM
if you have a small amount i suggest do research on ICOs and invest in what you think can have great future.
investing in good ICO can give better returns than investing BTC.

It is not always the case because there is a big risk involved as well. There are quite a number of ICO's which turned out to be just a scam and ate up investors hard earned money. But you are right that when you do a good amount of research you can have a potential big yields when you stumble with good and quality ICO..
920  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin cannot replace currency in the world because price is not stable on: October 16, 2017, 12:09:08 PM
Something that is not stable dont mean that can replace something this is normal. Bitcoin is not stable it ok we see that price is going up and down all the way.
But looking little bigger think that could be possible only if banks and government accept this, in other way this wont happen any time soon.
Decentralization is the blessing of bitcoin if its value is also stable then there will be no difference in cash and bitcoin so think positive bitcoin has a lot of room to earn faster as compare to conventional money and talking about its dump there is one thing that little dump creates a huge pump and that pump gives a lot of profit so if this will replace conventional one that will be best.
Decentralization is the only reason bitcoin still exists, if this was not the case, bitcoin would have been shutdown long time ago but governments like so many other digital currencies, but due to its decentralized nature governments cannot destroy bitcoin, so they are trying all kind of strategies, they are trying to manipulate the price, they are creating cheap copies in the form of forks and nothing is working.

Decentralization and a limited number of bitcoins (21 million bitcoins) are the prime reasons why it stays solid and capture the interest of both big time and ordinary investors. Because fiat money have no limit in terms of its production and that what makes its value go down over the course of the years while bitcoin, like gold will keep increasing because its number are limited.
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