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1281  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: August 28, 2017, 06:19:14 AM
Actually I think it takes more guts to give up on the game at the right time. People who stick to it even when they want to quit, what are they really proving of themselves ?
It is so stupid to play with fire while you know the fact that it will burn you. Trading is all about patience and tolerance during the dip. Stay calm and let the recovery take place.
Making the right decision before its too late needs a lot of will power in the brutal world of gambling! Trading and gambling is pole apart. Trading is not as fatal as gambling is and most of the traders end up living a good life while it is exactly opposite in the case of gambling. Though, both have their own lessons to teach.

Becoming a good trader is not easy and there are many out there who are losing with their trades most of the time. However, if you just keep on trading, you will eventually learn to when to enter and out of the trades and can have a system for your self always. Though it is not guarantee that you will always have a winning trades, but the likelyhood of getting winning trades is at reach.
1282  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to earn Bitcoin without investment on: August 28, 2017, 06:12:31 AM
I think to earn without investing means, that somehow can be done in this forum as a signature, twitter and fb campaign or become a bounty hunter.
Not necessarily jr.member if you want to get bitcoin. The Newbie Rank can also receive Bitcoin by joining the social media and blogging & vodeo.

Signature campaign is really a good starter entry to accumulating bitcoin and at the same time learning through the leading and largest bitcoin forum in the industry. What I am seeing is that,it is not that easy anymore to join signature campaigns nowadays because there are a lot of people who are already coming in and wanting also to join to signature campaign.

My advice to newcomers is to make an edge by posting quality comments/replies to threads here so that you will have a chance to get in to signature campaigns.
1283  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: August 28, 2017, 02:34:22 AM

It's very essential and normal if you keep on doing the same thing and you only focus with it, you will be hitting your own mark. But if you will change your direction and take time to rest with your losses, you can prevent addiction.

I hope that it is that easy, losing your money is enough for you to be provoked on gambling, you will start to gamble more of your money because you are dedicated on winning it back, sadly, they can't win it back easily, they will lose more of their money, before they could win some in gambling, and that would be going to addiction which we should all avoid.
If someone faces a constant series of failures in gambling, then it is sure for him to gamble again and again and take as many chances as possible to win back the amount. This seems to be an addiction on his side but in the real terms, it is a way to regret upon your mistakes and not being addicted.

But at the same time, regretting or completely ignoring the failures also will lead to severe gambling addictions. The better one must be having self-limiting plans and strictly following it.

When a gambler is trying to chase his/her previous loses, he/she is like digging a deep hole every time he/she wants to try to chase those loses and at the end of the day, he/she will going to lose more than what he/she cant afford to lose.
1284  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: August 28, 2017, 02:32:09 AM
Just enjoy life. Earning bitcoins does not end with just trading you can still make it as a sideline like joining signature campaigns and and white paper's or Ann , I think that you also have a day work so its not a problem for you if you stop trading plus you already have enough money so just have bonding with your family in the meantime.
Yes, there is nothing to take on heart if you have quit trading. There are many other easy and safe ways of earning bitcoins. If you are doing job, it is highly recommendable to avoid trading and simply be patient with the bitcoins you have. Sell them off when prices are high and enjoy the profit.
It really depends in a person if he are wanting to quit or not, our time is not the same as others, skills and money we have many things to consider. If you think trading is not right for you then find some or like you said just hold some amounts of bitcoins and wait for it to become like a gold price in just a matter of years.
If you quit trading that’s not problem! If you don’t have interest now that is okay but as said here buy some coins and save them for a long time and whenever you just see price is high, sell them. If you just quit because of loss you had then I think trader must not be emotional enough in this regard. You have to bear the loss with profit too.
Trading is not for everyone and there are kind of person that try trading and once they get some losses they quit and that is understandable and trading is not for people who are emotional or impatient so i think it is better if they will just go investing rather than trading because it is much safer and they cannot get some loss until they sell it for a lower price but if they are going for long term then the percentage of getting a loss is pretty low.

but if they can stay in trading and they are learn about trading from many source, i think they can trying again and who knows they can make profit. in trading, many people realize that it is hard to control our emotion but once we are succeeding to control our emotion, no matter when the price is down, we can still calm down and not attracted to panic situation.
i think that it is not a good decision to quit trading. i think one need to overview all his decisions that he has taken through out his trading, i think he should also change their trading planning and strategy and through this way they have the ability to show a good result in trading or any other business or investment.

In trading, patient is your main virtue that must be cultivated. The more patient and cool you are, the more you are most likely to have some winning trades. Remember, you are not lost yet if the price is going down, you only lose when you sell it on a low price versus the price you bought it. Be patient and earn.
1285  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: August 28, 2017, 02:30:05 AM
they are no smart way of gamble. there is only luck that is important. if you're lucky on that day than have a beer.
a smart way to win from gambling is not there, the smart way that's in gambling is the way we can place bets on a consistent basis. I mean when we can maximize the money we can bet, the maximum amount we bet in each game so we can place a bet in the long run.
Basically you are suggesting increasing the amount of capital that one uses for his gambling so that he can make more bets. If he will have more bets, his chances of winning will also grow but won't it stand good for his defeats too? If someone is really smart, he would actually not even gamble.

There's actually no smart way of gambling like you're saying because the house always have the edge over the players unless in a p2p gambling system. Therefore either increasing your bets or bankroll and vice versa at irrelevant, all you have to do is to accept the reality of losing sometimes so that you can always make gambling decisions with a cool head without being under pressure.

Could not agree more to you mate. Gambling sites has house edge advantage that is tough to beat - unless you are so lucky and you bet the max limit bet and win then stop betting and cashout.
1286  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 28, 2017, 02:27:58 AM
The easiest way is investing in stocks or bonds  Grin. Although there are couple more ways that can generate you a steady income, but I would stick with stocks and bonds if you want the easiest way.
I don't agree. I bought nvidia's stocks in june (Thought they gonna grow, just look at mining hype and so on). Was a mistake so far, BTC was a way more profitable.

As what they have said, crypto currency trading is transferring money from the impatient to the patient - what I am trying to point out is that, if you just get patient with the altcoins that you have currently holding and soon it will grow.
1287  Other / Off-topic / Re: Would you give bitcoin as a wedding gift? on: August 28, 2017, 02:24:18 AM
I could actually give paper wallet having 0.2BTC inside as a wedding gift. I fear that the taker may lose it because they don't know how to use bitcoin. If it is known by more people, we can start giving bitcoins as an elegant gift.

Bitcoin should be a very wonderful gift to the newly wed couple because you are giving them a potential investment for their future but it is really up to them if they will going to treat it as an investment or cash it out right away Smiley
1288  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to earn Bitcoin without investment on: August 25, 2017, 03:50:08 PM
You can start many things. Ranging from creating blogs and active in this forum

1. You can create a blog with good quality and original article writing. With a good blog, you can get lots of visitors. When your blog visitors have a lot, you can put an ad that will pay you with bitcoin.

2. Active in this forum. Create an informative and constructive post. Then make sure your bitcointalk account is already in rank more than Jr. Member to follow bounty campaign. Follow all the rules and you will get a free coin after the campaign ends.

I hope this helps!  Cheesy
well said, without investment, anyone can earn from Bitcoin. but one must gain some specific skill in order to make money. one has to gain proper knowledge about this platform and writes this knowledge in a blog. but for me, the Signature campaign would be the best way to make Bitcoin without investment. in this case, proper knowledge and good writing skill are enough to do it.

Actually, the sky is the limit and of course how much time you can allot to earning more bitcoins without investment. I presumed that the investment referred to is monetary and not time. You are right that we can also scale out by creating a blog and promoting that blog for others to see and in the process you can add some affiliate products that pays bitcoins or you can add google adsense on it.
1289  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 25, 2017, 03:43:27 PM
Hello All,

What you think is the best investment to gain steady income in btc without actively doing anything?
So no trading/gambling/loaning etc.

Steady income more likely to be 'small & secure' than 'big & risky'.

Thanks,
BR Oinas

Your question is such annoying, I'm sorry to say this.  Because your asking about the best investment and yet no  trading, gambling, and loaning. What kind of steady income you are looking for here if your not gonna a trading, unless your talking about in cloud mining investment steady income but it will took a long time before your ROI and worst most of the cloud mining was scam site.

there were investments that gives dividends though but i'm not sure how true could this be. that could be a steady income unfortunately its too good to be true. if there is one, we could be buying them for all we care how much.

the only thing that provides steady income is joining a signature campaign which you would have to work for.
That steady income is not really enough that would help us financially.
Bitcoin will sure grow in the future but when you are working and earning from campaign and you only rely
on this you will not gonna ride with the success as you will surely cash out directly.

That is true, you should have other source of income and bitcoin should be a sideline or if bitcoin is your primary income, better to have other streams of income - this is also called a diversification so that when one thing is falling down, you got another thing that compensates the loses.
1290  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: August 25, 2017, 03:40:52 PM
There is no strategy to win in dice  and the one who tells you the opposite lies you everything depends on your luck

But we can use the trick to reduce the risk of losing the dice gambling game. Now there are so many ways to use the trick. Let alone gambling dice. Almost everyone loves it

No doubt, dice game, everyone like it, but i don't think that we use many tricks here in dice.
It is simple game, where you have no choice to use tricks and strategies.
Also i see mostly different videos in YouTube, but i don't think that these strategies work on dice.
However, i quit all strategies in dice and simply i play it with rely on luck.

yeah, strategies on dice doesn't really will going to last in a longer period of time. You can win at it but the winning is not enough and so you will going to stay betting until you will hit by long line od reds and before you knew it, you bankroll is depleted already.
Dice is the game of control , as usually when you won it you will not think to stop.
But looking for another win as it feel so quick !
I don't think any strategy could work in dice , but when you can have a full control over your emotion , you will win everything.

and if you are having hard time to control your self from betting and betting in dice game, you might as well have a fixed amount of goal to earn - example, if you target a winning of .01btc and reached it, better stop already and never gets tempted to bet more than your goal.
1291  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: August 25, 2017, 03:13:02 PM
How a daily limit will prevent a gambler not to come back even he is losing every single bet ? Limiting gambling activity will be helpful only for the day as next day they will come with their limit reset.

The plans to prevent getting back to gambling must be approached in psychological way because it is very much similar to quitting gambling. When a gambler is not frequenting to come back then most probably he will get chances to leave off gambling completely.
Yes we have always the thinking that.we want to earn more than what we are expecting and in that way we are able to create our mind set that we need to keeps on gambling and come back to it frequently. It can be one of the reason and another one is the amount that we can get thru it .by playing it.
Yeah its human nature to become greedy ,
Prople can't blame themselves , as gambling will hook you to be the person who looks so bad like greedy ,
I know its hard to reject the desire to not gamble again ,
Your brain always force you to play again due an addiction.
If the reason why we come back is because of greediness then I am sure we will keep losing, when we are greedy we do not have a limit of winning and more more in losing as we never stop even if we are losing so hard as long as we still have the bankroll available to play.
An addiction and greedy both is the perfect way to make you broke ,
So beware of that two , you will never have fun if you following it ,
I mean you should looking for a way to prevent you become greedy and addicted!
The huge winning with simple way always make you hooked.

Just don't get hooked and addicted to it. Usually people get addicted to things which they always do regularly - with gambling, when people loses quite some of money, the emotion is so strong to play again to chase that loses but actually most of the time ends up of losing more and more and in the process getting addicted to it.
1292  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: August 25, 2017, 12:54:33 PM
Trading is quite similar to gambling in some form of way, as you need to predict how will the price of bitcoin goes once you decided to purchase it at a certain price. Obviously in trading, you won't lose your money as fast as gambling as you can choose to hold your bitcoin in your account until the price rise to the amount which you feel comfortable to sell it away.
Yes I believe if trading is not similar to gambling it is quite close to gambling. You can lose your money anytime the only difference is in trading you lose in parts and in gambling all at-once.
Trading needs a lot of concentration and dedication but these two are not enough because it can sometime ring the bell for you even Wink if you don't have enough knowledge and the skills with the lack of power of decision making then I think you can seriously harm your resources such as money and time both. So it is better to come to trading when you know that you are now ready to get some income from here.
I think it's better if you didn't quit trading because it would help you sustain its value unlike if you keep selling your coins. Holdinh it for few months would be a good idea to grow bigger coins. Trading is one of the best methods to have income and to open your mind in a business type technique. It is also be classified as business I guess and that's how unique trading is using altcoins or other coins.

Correct, trading is considered a business when you treat it as a real business - when we see real business, it is when we are so serious about obtaining trading knowledge and skills and diligently following pre-planned trading without emotions being involved.
1293  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: August 24, 2017, 07:23:58 AM
Gambling is so addicting, because it gives opportunity to earn easily money. Gambling is very known activity that everyone wants.

You are right there that it gives opportunity to earn some easy money. But it is also giving you a counterpart of it that you can also lose a lot of money from it. And this is the only cycle that happens again and again so gamblers are becoming addicting in it.

Gambling is so addicting even though we are losing is because of the money that we wanted to win on it, the fact that we are losing doesn' matter to us, we are just looking forward that we are going to win, that is why many people go crazy about it, and that is thing you should avoid, being addicted on gambling is a really big problem.

It is addicting that is why we need to control ourselves. For me the only way to control myself is only to use a small amount everytime I play that is why even if I keep playing, it doesnt matter for me, I will be able to stop when I have nothing left. I spend every amount that I use in a gambling site but it is really just small amount

that is how we are really supposed to gamble - only gamble a small amount of money that we can afford to lose and just play for fun and entertainment. Small amount may vary though depending on the amount we can afford or based on our income - definitely .1 bitcoin is ok with people that have several bitcoins on their wallet but .001 could be the small amount by ordinary joe.
1294  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: August 23, 2017, 01:46:31 PM
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We raised 50 btc so far from befriended investors (see my signature for adres).
For the moment we are preparing an ICO... but pre-ico investors are welcome...

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I never know that your site having any open investment from the start, are you just implemented it? And I saw that your thread is not really active here,may be you should consider more events or giveaways to make sure your site and thread is active for players


Correct, we can't just invest blindly into something that is newly created when it comes to invested. The gambling site investing is already risky. Adding more to that risk is suicide. Looks like you need to advertise more just so we can prove the worth of investing in it.

investing is like driving, we need to learn and practice how to drive and even further practice how the card is working so we can adjust on everything like the clutching, braking, and the like. Hence, we need to learn first the investment vehicles that we are about to join so that however far and long that investment you are holding on, you can be very assure to yourself that you got this! Smiley
1295  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin transaction fees fair? on: August 22, 2017, 08:01:45 AM
people prefer bitcoin over fiat since it has monetary value and also an investment. If you hold one dollar note you know you’re holding a dollar but If you own 1Bitcoin you can even predict the price the next second. That is why I would rather buy much bitcoin than hold more fiat.


Holding or saving fiat money is really not ideal because as time passes, its value will going to deplete due to inflation. That is why save only a portion that you can use at anytime in times of emergency but invest more of your money to make it work for you and combat inflation. With bitcoin, holding or saving it is good at the moment.
1296  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: August 22, 2017, 07:59:41 AM
Just enjoy life. Earning bitcoins does not end with just trading you can still make it as a sideline like joining signature campaigns and and white paper's or Ann , I think that you also have a day work so its not a problem for you if you stop trading plus you already have enough money so just have bonding with your family in the meantime.

trading is really very challenging and you must do your best to detach your emotions with trading. This is not easy to do though because we are just human being but if we try and master trading without emotions involve, we can decide easily and execute trading plan easily.
1297  Other / Off-topic / Re: Would you give bitcoin as a wedding gift? on: August 22, 2017, 07:57:11 AM
I think this is a wonderful gift that in time can still multiply, and not just be stored somewhere in the house and remind about the wedding. Newlyweds will be happy with such a valuable gift.

If we give newly wed bitcoin as a gift and that they are not that familiar with the bitcoin industry, we should send them a message right after their honeymoon to safeguard their bitcoin wallet password like safeguarding jewelries on a jewelry box.
1298  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why some people prefer Bitcoin over fiat ? on: August 22, 2017, 07:55:21 AM
Bitcoin is being used widely in porn sites, gambling and drug dealing sectors. Is that why the btc made for ? I have seen a lot of members in this forum discussing about buying drugs, gambling and enjoying porn with bitcoin. Is not it a misuse of a currency ? Block chain tech is a awesome tech and btc is getting popular. I hate these misuses of precious btc. It hurts me. This will lead into unhealthy society along with unhealthy future generation.
The reason why some people prefer bitcoin is that buyers and sellers can transact without having there profiles revealed, for this reason why bitcoin is used in illegal activities but more people use bitcoin to pay for their services needed. For example in this forum, advertiser pays bitcoin for campaign signitures which is more convinient rather than using paypal or credit card, See , not all people uses bitcoin for illegal purposes and these people are increasing as they found it more convinient.

The use of bitcoin whether it is illegal or legal is the same thing as the illegal or legal use of criminals in fiat money. We really can't stop it as these criminals are so wise and innovative in transacting their illegal products or services.
1299  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: August 22, 2017, 07:52:14 AM
I believe that there must be a good friend or family member who will help to throw a game of chance, because that it is difficult to control yourself if there is already a serious dependence.
Don't take gambling so serious because once you take it serious all your bet will become that greed that emotion will flow and you won't control your self unless you are winning and earning profit aso fun and excitement since family is dumb ass i'd rather choose family to help me but because they don't want us having a family member who actually playing gambling then i'll ask my love once girlfriend to help me to control my self too.

when gambling is founded with lots of emotions, it is very dangerous and risky. Because the gambler may tend to engage into to rage betting when he/she is experiencing some streak of reds after a nice win - and the outcome would be instead of winning a nice profit, that gambler ends up losing all the bankroll.
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