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1141  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: September 10, 2017, 09:51:14 AM
Most people do regret mistakes when they learn that they have been wasting too much money on something that did not make up for the loss. They may lose their property and family and end up in the streets. They will understand that then but by then it is of no use. Keeping gambling habits under control is important and one must not venture into the unknown without preparations first.
Gambling has never ever done anything good to anyone and I don’t understand why governments don’t take any serious actions against these casinos and gambling sites. Gambling is a slow poison just like drugs and addicts of gambling do anything to fulfill their urge to gamble, even they bet on their children and property to win a single game.
If one thing that gambling can do for you is entertainment, not profit (unless you own the gambling site or casino). It has always been negative but it could serve as a lesson for everyone that it's not profitable all the time and addicts there have lost a lot of money that they can count. I have seen people betting their cars just for the sake of gambling.

If you want to entertain yourself in gambling then you are a fool to begin with. You cant be entertained when you lose alot of money. You should be taking your money elsewhere and get entertained if you want it. It is not profitable in the long term however no one says that you cant get any money at all


that is true that with gambling, you can potentially earn a lot of money but the risk is just too high. and it makes sense that when you want to entertain yourself, you won't be if you keep on losing. However, there are really people who get entertained with gambling even playing with the small amount of money - they don't care much whether they earn or lose money they just want to have some fun.
1142  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: September 10, 2017, 09:44:11 AM
Trading in very small amounts will lead to very small profits. Reasonable. I'd recommend increasing the number of your bitcoins to at least a small amount only at a glance. And with larger you can try some place to trade. In case if it will not be profitable in one, in another it will be at least something.
I think if you are starting doing trade for the first time even with smaller amount, the main focus should be on learning all the ups and downs instead of focusing on profit and loss. I will suggest everyone to go on with small amount and then keep on increasing amount when you think it’s feasible.

Yes, you are right every beginner should learn to trade with a small amount of money because without learning he might lose all the money which he invests. Trading is not one day it will take some time to get knowledge about trading so it is always good to trade with small amount and you can learn new thing about trading with that small amount only.
It would really takes time and you are right we should really need to put up small amounts when we are just starting not on rushing up on putting huge money because for sure you will really lose up that amount in no time.Jumping into things without any proper knowledge would really put you into trouble.Better to start on small then if you do see you are profiting gradually then its the time you decide to add up your capital.

...ok
But very small profit is better than very small lost or big lost.
It seem here that people are only interested in big profit.
Better is to make yourself ready for the trade. You are true in this regard; one must be having all the basic knowledge for making its first dive in this pool of traders. Get some low amount and don’t be getting much more in start. Take a start with only that little you can even afford in case of first loss.

It is really hard to lose and when you are first time trader, you will basically lose some trades - that is a fact and even professional traders have losing trades.. When you are playing with big bankroll and you are just new to trading, you will get disappointed and discourage right on the bat vs just depositing and trading with small amount of capital.
1143  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: September 10, 2017, 09:40:55 AM
using logic in gambling is not a safe way or a good strategy to win a game, but i think there is some tactics can be applied to play safe games.

As long as we can keep steady on our plan that we already made before we came into a gambling place and we can control our emotion, I considered we are on the safe zone. Don't let our emotion bring us to the very hard situation where we won't able to overcome it.
Always have control over the emotions as mentioned, because while we're into gambling each and every decision made should be done through a long research. When an user goes off emotionally, automatically the decision made by him goes wrong. Thinking it in mind it's good to know the limits affordability and then participate to be on the safer side.

I agree mate.. emotions is one of the factor as to why we became aggressive and not knowing of the risks that we may lose in the game. so we have to make sure that we know to accept how to lose if not we'll lose everything in gambling. Decision making will also be affected by our emotions because we can't focus on the game. so we need to be calm and focus on how to win.

That is really the bad outcome when we let our emotions set in our gambling sessions. With emotions, we would not anymore realize that we are playing on against a gambling site that has house edge advantage.
1144  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: September 10, 2017, 08:36:57 AM
Most people gamble for both fun and profit, but they 70% gamble for profit because people want easy money, and the more you win, the more you get addicted and gamble over and over. I, personally, gamble for 50% fun and 50% profit because gambling is fun and profitable at the same time. It is fun because I love observing people's behavior's when gambling and it is profitable because I get money without working for it.

it really depends on individuals preference and comfort. Some people really loves to gamble while others are just so afraid to risk something and betting their hard earned money. I for one is now hesitant to gamble with big bets -  I only play with little money that I can afford to lose.
1145  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: September 10, 2017, 08:29:49 AM
Gambling always offers a chance to get a large sum in an easy way and this very attracts fans of easy money. Personally, I take it as entertainment and do not want to make a profit.
Very few users were exceptional as the above mate, because even without expecting they do participate into gambling activities. Personally expecting a good return I used to spend my money on gambling. This becomes an addiction when users loss the control on them towards gambling.


I was also like this before when I first started with bitcoin where I gamble hard and lost a lot of money in the process - I don't have emotional control and bankroll descipline that is why by I finally decided to quit gambling. though.
1146  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin transaction fees fair? on: September 10, 2017, 07:55:52 AM
I think that the commission for transactions is fair. Bitcoin is a currency that provides an opportunity to get rich in a short time and the absence of a commission or a low commission will be unfair.

That is correct. If you are already making lots of money because of bitcoin, it would sound fair if you even pay more transaction fees as a way to tip miners for their work which makes you cash out a possible.
1147  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 10, 2017, 07:48:57 AM
someone in bitsler has won 26 BTC in gambling , i think you couldn't win that such number of bitcoin if you don't take risks

Exactly, you won't get to win that amount if you aren't ready to take some risk. And in simplest word, you will not win if you will not bet. And there's nothing wrong with this philosophy as long as you are the one that's responsible with your losses. You aren't going to blame others with your mistake and misfortune but kudos to this guy 26 bitcoin isn't a joke.
26 BTC is a very huge amount, there is no denial in it but still I won't be tempted by this. There are people who have even made millions of dollars by gambling but the fact is they are very rare, merely 0.001 percent of whole gambling population maybe or even less. I will go for more reliable methods. The guy was lucky this time but won't be same every time.

That's the hard part of it, the temptation. The way of thinking that you've got a lot of bitcoins now and you can gamble for so long. And you won't be having any problem with finance because you've got a lot of bucks. People like this are very few, they are the lucky ones and it's not wrong for them to gamble anymore as they experienced it alone.

When you have so much for bankroll, you tend to be carefree in betting without realizing that you are slowly depleting your money. But there is really nothing wrong with gambling because it is indeed a good way to have fun and entertainment - but when you say you want to get profit out of it or you make it as your goal, then it would be very risky and disappointing most of the time.

It's a good way to have fun and be entertained if you've got a lot of money to lose. It's not basically you are just going to gamble and just have fun, this type of reason is quite rare as most gamblers are into profit. Just take the risk if you think that you will have a good output and there's nothing wrong with this mindset if you have enough money and you afford it to lose.

Precisely. You are risking money that you can afford to lose and that you are ok with potentially losing your bankroll. This is supposed to be each gamblers should do and not just bet money that would hurt their pocket and budget when they lost it.
1148  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Criminality and Bitcoin on: September 10, 2017, 07:46:15 AM
Bitcoin can help many people. One of the main reason for criminality is money. Even the bitcoin involves money it is not the source of criminality because criminality is from the greed of people. People can earn from bitcoin that needs hard work but because of greedy people and who want to get rich instant then they can do wrong and criminality can happen.
I think these are the two things, because bitcoin is a secure source of money, and the people with criminal mind may be never stole a currency which has no physical existence. Criminal people mostly want cash and go away, but here is not the case of their choice. It will be very difficult for criminals to steal someone bitcoin wallet. So I think bitcoin and criminality are the two different things.

It is safe unless you give away your bitcoins to criminals. But on the other hand and on the other view - criminals will going to steal any bitcoins but will going to use it to pay and received bitcoins in exchange for their criminal transactions and criminal proliferation.
1149  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we make more money? on: September 10, 2017, 07:42:52 AM
How can we make more money? Is it that a necessary question i think you should pm only this kind of question im not angry or something but someone might report this you should be carefull but my advice is work hard you can make more money just by working hard right?
Working hard not enough for make more money, because it depends your salary from the job you are working. If this job cannot gives you good income like other jobs, it will makes you feel boring after long time work.

Could not agree more. I also have the same experienced where I work to only one client and I work more than 12 hours a day but only paid very little - at first, I was motivated until the fire just runs out. I am now working with several clients along with bitcoin accumulation and I am never happier than today.
1150  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: September 10, 2017, 07:39:16 AM
I think,  the best strategy for win is a little goal. My experience often was, that I won a little and then lost. So I stop now at little gains and take the little profit.

That is a good strategy because I even tested it before - just don't get greedy and control yourself from betting more. Although there is still no assurance that you will win all of the time because it is still a game of luck.
1151  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: September 10, 2017, 07:36:58 AM
For me I'll prefer bitcoin over gold as it's quite and thus, offers some great opportunities to earn more profit, whereas the market of gold grows very slowly and is relatively quite stable. In my opinion bitcoin investment will render more profit as compared to gold and that too in a short term of time...

Bitcoin is really good for a short term investing nowadays - because its prices is growing fast and we are still in the pioneering stage I think because I am looking at bitcoin as the future economic transactions online. Gold is stable and for long term investment but as I have said, bitcoin can also be a long term investment.
1152  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: September 10, 2017, 07:32:42 AM
Bitcoin is the best way to get steady income.  Investment procedure is very easy.  And one has to spend very less time for that.  Investment when prices are low and selling of it at higher price can give extra benefits.  Market survey is important for this.  Remaining all procedures are easy.  Rather I am thinking to quit my job and work on bitcoin as my full time job. 

investing your time and coins to trading cryptocurrencies is a good way of growing your coins and accumulating more altcoins. You just need to learn the in and out of the industry and gain knowledge & skills of trading and you are good to go.
1153  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to earn Bitcoin without investment on: September 10, 2017, 07:29:06 AM
Hey Bitcoiners? I'm desperate to start earning BTC
I'll do any kind of online activity as long as there's a Bitcoin payment. Where do I start?
If you want to earn bitcoin without investment I prefer to you to join in signature campaign. When I entered to the cryptocurrency world I also don't have a capital. I earned bitcoins because of the signature campaign.

and once you get couple of coins, example .05 btc, from your signature campaign earnings, you can start to learn trading cryptocurrencies or investing to ICO. Just make it sure that you equip your self with the right kind of knowledge and skills before you proceed of growing your coins.
1154  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we make more money? on: September 09, 2017, 12:21:27 PM
What are the things to do to succeed in trade? What are you doing to make your business bigger?
How can we make more money?
We can make more money by means trading, joining signature campaign, working online with bitcoins earning etc. In order to succeed in trading you have to read and learn first its technique and understand. In order to make your business bigger maybe you have to join group chat.

With trading cryptocurrencies, you should capitalize on news - what I meant by this is that you should not be carried away by news instead make it a way to earn more. Example, when you see news that gives fear to people that having certain coin, chances are the price of it will go down - now it is your turn to buy as much as you can when people are fearful. When the market stabilizes, you just have handsome profit to play with Smiley
1155  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: September 09, 2017, 12:18:52 PM
Gambling always offers a chance to get a large sum in an easy way and this very attracts fans of easy money. Personally, I take it as entertainment and do not want to make a profit.

That is really good to gamble just for fun and do not go beyond betting with the amount that we cannot afford to lose.. we should not be guided with greed and aim gambling as our source of income because we are most likely be disappointed though.
1156  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin transaction fees fair? on: September 09, 2017, 12:16:27 PM
Everyone wanted higher bitcoin price and we achieved this but another problem become transaction fees. When bitcoin's price was low, we had to pay also low fee and now when it rised, we have to pay high fee in bitcoins and plus that high fee is more higher with current price. Is this fair? The higher the price, the more money miners have with bitcoin exchange.
To my mind when price becomes high, we have to pay low fee and when it becomes low, than fee has to be high. To my mind it had to be done like this from the begining.
I think the rise of transaction fees is just fair because bitcoin price rate also rises which means greater opportunity to gain and earn an income. It is not fair if we bitcoin users are earning big but those people who are behind the processing of our transactions which are the miners are just earning a little amount because we prefer of paying low transaction fees for the transaction process to be done as soon as possible. The rise of the price rate is pretty nice so as is with the transaction fee rate. They must both come along with the rise so that both parties between the users/consumers and the miners will be just fair and equal so no one will be left behind and just one party will be dominant over the other.
the price of the bitcoin is very high and it is increasing as the time is spending so it is fair enough today the bitcoin transaction is much low as compare to the bank fees the transaction fees of the bitcoin is 0.005 and it is very low according to me but the charges of the banks are very high and there are a lot of tax for the bank amount as compare of the bitcoin.

Bitcoin is just simply awesome because there is freedom of use by the coin holder with the sense of anonymity. However, we all know that there is no freedom without the law or in other words, there is really no absolute things in this world - hence, we should lived by the bitcoin transaction fees and just be wise enough to have some planned bitcoin transactions.
You at least have understood what he wrote? Where the anonymity of bitcoin does if each user to spend their coins forced to change them for Fiat? You suggest not to solve problems. You propose to accept them and adapt. It's a dead end.

What I am trying to say is that, transaction fees are ok - we need to compensate our miners because they are the ones who served as witnesses for all of our bitcoin transactions. They are also investing serious money for their mining infrastructures and technology. We are partying at the moment with bitcoin earnings and its price rising, it is reasonable to share and pay someone who made our transactions get through in blochain..
1157  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: September 09, 2017, 12:11:45 PM
Hello All,

What you think is the best investment to gain steady income in btc without actively doing anything?
So no trading/gambling/loaning etc.

Steady income more likely to be 'small & secure' than 'big & risky'.

Thanks,
BR Oinas
Our main purpose on why we went here in bitcoin is to earn large amount of money, in my stay here I do earn. Some examples or ways to earn here is to join signature campaigns wherein it usually takes a month or two and it is risky because there are no certainty if you are going to earn or not.

When you are in a good, reliable, and long time running signature campaign just like what I am wearing right now, you need not to worry and I guess most of the signature campaigns out there are good and there is really nothing to worry about. Your job is to make your account credible and in the process, you have the potential of earning through signature campaign.
1158  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: September 09, 2017, 12:08:54 PM
Yes, I like online slot machines or in real life. On the one hand, it looks like a children's game, but it gives you the opportunity to win money. You just need to have good luck Smiley

slot games are really games based on pure luck.. if you are lucky, you will win good money and if not, you may lose a ton. you chances of winning against slot games is very slim and therefore, you should not bet more than you cannot afford to lose.
1159  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: September 09, 2017, 12:06:05 PM
Investing is all about right mindset once you develop that everything falls into right places.
The key rules are beautifully summarized by Benjamin Graham through the analogy of Mr. Market.
According to that, you are partner in a business with a crazy person Mr. Market.
Mr. Market has wild mood swings.
Every day he offers you to Buy your shares at a particular price or Sell his shares at a particular price.But leaves the decision up to you entirely.
 

..and even if the market acts as crazy as it can be, we should not make the market at fault with our losing trades because, at the end of the day, it is us who made the final call.
1160  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: September 09, 2017, 12:03:54 PM
They are too different things, people says that bitcoin is the digital good because it is growing everyday, but honestly, gold is much more safe than bitcoin, it never goes down. Maybe bitcoin too, but we dont know what can happen tomorrow with this new digital era.
I prefer bitcoin over gold, because you can make more money with that, but it is pretty to hold some gold, maybe a few grams, but it is nice to see a gold bar.. lol

Investing to both, gold and bitcoin, is the wisest decision you can ever make. Bitcoin will give you lots of gains in just short period of time while gold gives you a feeling of assurance when we are talking of long term investment.
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