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1261  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: August 28, 2017, 08:15:02 AM
Yes it is really addicting. There is reason that people become addicted to gambling, there’s a case that they become addicted because they choose it to be. I mean, they know they will be addicted if they continue playing without thinking what will be the outcome. And also gambling is addicting because it is giving entertainment to others.

You are correct. It is just like with smoking - people who are just starting to smoke knows very well that it is addicting and yet still go on and smoke until as expected hooked to smoking addiction.
1262  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: August 28, 2017, 08:11:42 AM
they are no smart way of gamble. there is only luck that is important. if you're lucky on that day than have a beer.
a smart way to win from gambling is not there, the smart way that's in gambling is the way we can place bets on a consistent basis. I mean when we can maximize the money we can bet, the maximum amount we bet in each game so we can place a bet in the long run.
Basically you are suggesting increasing the amount of capital that one uses for his gambling so that he can make more bets. If he will have more bets, his chances of winning will also grow but won't it stand good for his defeats too? If someone is really smart, he would actually not even gamble.

There's actually no smart way of gambling like you're saying because the house always have the edge over the players unless in a p2p gambling system. Therefore either increasing your bets or bankroll and vice versa at irrelevant, all you have to do is to accept the reality of losing sometimes so that you can always make gambling decisions with a cool head without being under pressure.

Could not agree more to you mate. Gambling sites has house edge advantage that is tough to beat - unless you are so lucky and you bet the max limit bet and win then stop betting and cashout.

Many gamblers evidenced this fact some time ago after lose lots of money trying different strategies that didn't work. Then the sports betting have became more popular than ever, as it was a different modality of gambler where they don't depend 100% luck to win on long term. There could be a higher chance of profit different from the famous Dice game. So they have found that to play gambling in a smart way they should improve their sport skills and that is what many of them are doing so far.

playing games where there is a room for skills or that skills can also be a factor to win is the most ideal one if you want to do gambling - sportsbetting and poker games are one of those - just master the game and you are good to go.
1263  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 28, 2017, 07:44:59 AM
The easiest way is investing in stocks or bonds  Grin. Although there are couple more ways that can generate you a steady income, but I would stick with stocks and bonds if you want the easiest way.
I don't agree. I bought nvidia's stocks in june (Thought they gonna grow, just look at mining hype and so on). Was a mistake so far, BTC was a way more profitable.

As what they have said, crypto currency trading is transferring money from the impatient to the patient - what I am trying to point out is that, if you just get patient with the altcoins that you have currently holding and soon it will grow.
I agree with the part about impatient, but crypto currencies trading are a relatively more interesting way to invest money now. It's like to establish online internet business in 90s — risky, but rewarding. And also, you should share some blockchain principles. My humble opinion just pure greed is a bad way to make money here.


You are right - this time, we are still in the launching stage of bitcoin for its greatness or maybe in the middle already because it has been here for a while. The thing is, we should not be greedy or instead of earning more, we will going to lose more.
1264  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: August 28, 2017, 07:40:54 AM
How a daily limit will prevent a gambler not to come back even he is losing every single bet ? Limiting gambling activity will be helpful only for the day as next day they will come with their limit reset.

The plans to prevent getting back to gambling must be approached in psychological way because it is very much similar to quitting gambling. When a gambler is not frequenting to come back then most probably he will get chances to leave off gambling completely.
Yes we have always the thinking that.we want to earn more than what we are expecting and in that way we are able to create our mind set that we need to keeps on gambling and come back to it frequently. It can be one of the reason and another one is the amount that we can get thru it .by playing it.
Yeah its human nature to become greedy ,
Prople can't blame themselves , as gambling will hook you to be the person who looks so bad like greedy ,
I know its hard to reject the desire to not gamble again ,
Your brain always force you to play again due an addiction.
If the reason why we come back is because of greediness then I am sure we will keep losing, when we are greedy we do not have a limit of winning and more more in losing as we never stop even if we are losing so hard as long as we still have the bankroll available to play.
An addiction and greedy both is the perfect way to make you broke ,
So beware of that two , you will never have fun if you following it ,
I mean you should looking for a way to prevent you become greedy and addicted!
The huge winning with simple way always make you hooked.

Just don't get hooked and addicted to it. Usually people get addicted to things which they always do regularly - with gambling, when people loses quite some of money, the emotion is so strong to play again to chase that loses but actually most of the time ends up of losing more and more and in the process getting addicted to it.
I would really agree with your opinion , the more often you play the more vulnerable you are ,
Treat gambling like you will do it for once in your whole life ,
Don't be naive , always think about the negative impacts ,
You maybe won't feel have to come back to gamble.
Staying away from gambling is just simple in words. In reality, if someone has turned into a gambler, it is not that easy. People not only find fun or profit in it, some think of it as a cure to their pains. What about them. They will always gamble in order to get a temporary state of peace.

When gambling is already an addiction it is already a habit that is really hard to break - it is like taking tooth brush right after you wake up in the morning- it is already a part of your system. The only way to get rid of it is to replace it with something or other activities and make the new one a new habit to form..
1265  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: August 28, 2017, 07:38:17 AM
For me, it's Gold. It's easy to handle it. You can keep it along with you. I don't think bitcoin can do that. I don't have any idea at all. Bitcoin is not yet old unlike gold. Eversince the world began, there are golds already in our history. Bitcoin is too risky. You'll never know when the value goes up or down.

For me, investing to both gold and bitcoin is the way and wise way to go. Bitcoin can be for a short term investment while gold is for a long term investment as the latter took some time to increase its value compared to the former.
1266  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: August 28, 2017, 07:25:27 AM
There isn't any strategy which will guarantee your chances of winning but what is important is you should set a stop loss and win loss amount so you can stop on the right time and not lose everything too quickly. What you can do instead is stop gambling for that day and return next day just to recover some funds and withdraw
I used dice game eventually, since from beginning I have not heard there still any strategy that get you profit or any other movement. All depends on your luck and may be help if you little tricky.
There is absolutely no strategy to win when it comes to dice, your ability to win is based on pure luck and nothing else. Its one of the games that takes lots of guts to play because you run the risk of losing everything and sometimes you can win so much that you will be shocked.

There are some good strategies with playing dice games however, the strategies are good to extending your bankroll playing sessions. this is done through proper bankrolls and session management. Although it is really not guarantee to win thoguh.
1267  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we make more money? on: August 28, 2017, 07:23:36 AM
Internet and bitcoin opens enormous opportunities, many people say that can generate up to thousands of dollars a day, of course we have much to learn from them.
The op’s main target is to earn income from trading. There isn’t anything or rules you have to follow to make income from trading online.

All you have to do is learn as much as you can about online trading. If you’re interested in other options available for you to earn money online, then you can try out signature campaign, faucets, gambling (of course, if you’re  the crazy type ready to take risks)* and freelancing.

faucet is really kinda waste of time unless you have a bunch of it. Signature campaign is a good side income, gambling is a no no for me - just gamble for fun with the money i can afford to lose, trading is my second priority now next to mean main source of income which is working with business clients.
1268  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: August 28, 2017, 07:21:22 AM
It's so good to quit gambling for good with doing things and don't think about gambled because you will be addicted to him and this is so hazard and dangerous .

A person is totally addicted and that's why they are looking for a way to quit gambling for good, if you can't notice that there's a lot of gamblers who are doing anything to save themselves. And you had to remove your attention in gambling so that you can forget about your gambling activities.

Saving your self starts with the person who wanted his future to be better, and if ever those normal activities will be changed I think there might me an improvement to those players who got drowned into this vice of gambling. Acceptance is the key to quit gambling early while it's not too later to stay away from that gambling possibilities to hinder on quitting from the old you; now changed for good purpose.
It is only possible for a person to quit gambling for good if he himself realizes the fact that he is into something harmful. Gambling is all about luck and if you are unlucky some days then probably you should try your luck again and again instead of giving up on gambling soon but on the other hand, if your balance amount has been decreased to such a dangerous level, then its sure time to quit.

Quitting gambling 100% from a heavy gambling sessions and let us safely say from being addicted to gambling, is really hard to do. The best thing is to gradually and slowly having gambling sessions until you can already comfortable quitting.
1269  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: August 28, 2017, 07:18:55 AM
No way to do an easy money in gambling. And the usual way is betting or rolling on the dice and wait for your fortune and shows up "win" that's the easiest way.
Gambling relies too heavily on luck and there is definitely no easy way in gambling because luck comes and goes to us as they please. Luck can not be predicted when it will come to us, luck can come anytime. Sometimes luck does not come when we really need them.

It's like you can win an easy win once in a blue moon. But there are times that gamblers will win an instant easy win but it will be recovered again when they gamble and will be losing from their bets. This is the life in gambling, the path is really unreliable and no one can tell you a definite way of winning with an easy way.

When you get lucky and win big, stop - that is the key there. Because if you still play on and become greedy, you will eventually lose as the house edge advantage will going to play against you sooner or later but it will come.

It's good to play for some more and ask for better amount but make sure you had the profit then. We will lose if we will not be wise with our decisions to make with gambling. And you've got the easiest profit from gambling don't forget too that you can have also the easiest way of losing.
there is an easy way and there is a risk worth it. so for me when you struggle difficult to make profit there is less risk and vice versa. just pretty simple choose are you gonna take that high risk to get an easy money? or through a hard way but with less risk .

by gambling actually will always looks like an easy way , that is not true , it is even give you an impossible way to make it profitable no matter what.
That’s the point. Gambling is an impossible way of accumulating profit. It does not give any profits in reality. People consider it an easy way due to the zero effort gambling requires. You just need money and then you can gamble as much as you want. In their minds, they think they will win but reality is damn opposite.

That is correct especially to games that are base on pure luck. However, if the game is like poker where there are skills involved, then you have the chance to earn profits more than playing with games that are based on pure luck.
1270  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 28, 2017, 07:16:54 AM
investing is better than gambling. there is risk in investing but there is never a house which control everythin in investing. Therefore, gambling is just a game, never keep in mind that gambling can bring money to you, only investing can make you rich

Nice point. When we gamble, it is better not to expect to gain profit and just gamble to have some fun and if we really want to get some money, invest or much better work for it.
1271  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: August 28, 2017, 07:14:01 AM
I don't play much but obviously I want a profit.I won't any loss.But it's gambling, and I have to accept that.Usally,at my off period I do time pass by gambling for fun.But I became happy when I get profit.So in my word "No profit means No Fun".
That means you're gambling to make a profit. And that's what gambling is made of. I agree with you, no profit means no Fun. Legitimate to gamble for fun, but without the profit, gambling will feel bland.
I think gambling even if no profit is still fun. I don't agree with "no profit, no fun" because I usually do gambling for fun. Yes, I do have fun even if no profit. Spending time together with my friend and sisters is already gave me fun. Maybe if you really need money, gambling with no profit is really not fun for you. It depends on the reason of a player maybe.

When you are gambling for fun and using a bankroll that you can afford to lose, then you will really be having a lot of fun even if you are going to lose because you are ok with losing your bankroll and it wont hurt you at all because you know already from a start that you may going to lose it - but your main focus is just having fun! Smiley
1272  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do YOU sell? on: August 28, 2017, 07:09:44 AM
First of all you need a strategy.
If you don't have one - you are a gambler, not a trader.
That’s I the point one must know about trading. You must have strategy that will be guiding you in all times. You have to sell when you know that you will get enough profit margin. Don’t be greedy and wait for a long up, often that will end up in sleep fall and you get nothing. So strategical trading will be yielding profit else like said that will only be gambling.

Trading should be limited to a short term and holding it too long can be dangerous as you may miss the right time to sell and make profits so whenever you see price exceeding your entry price then without waiting longer you should sell your coins and collect the profits as you can again buy it when price goes down in future.
It really depends on the trader if he will sell it for short term or if he will sell it for long term. There is a lot of kind of traders so it is not always short term and there are still traders that prefer long term trading so they can earn more money so they cannot miss the opportunity to sell at the moon and not on a launching of the rocket.

You have a good analogy about the price going to the moon and the launching of the rocket. I feel really comfortable with short term trading and just targeting like 2.8% gain per trade.. although it is not that big gains but it is better than waiting for quite some time to get like 20-305 gains.. Although I agree that it is its own preference and I highly advice traders to determine where they are comfortable trading and stick with it.
1273  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: August 28, 2017, 07:07:04 AM
Before you could start trading in a very small amount you have to read and understand the world of trading. In simple reading this forum you can get information and insights the best practices in trading. For a small amount you can start trading on Alt Coins but of course there are risks in trading. What you can do is study first the currency and if you think it has a good potential then go for it.

First get the knowledge of how to trade better. If you will have enough knowledge of how to doing it good and you know the techniques of making big profit yielding then there will the time for you to start practicing with small investments. And for the newbie small investments are better as you will better know the profits and losses, how they happen.
although knowledge about trading is too much important but still you also depending on the amount you are going to invest, if you are investing a good amount of money then the winning chances of money is also increasing.
It is not about the amount of money that will depend on winning because it is all about the knowledge and experience so you can win in trading. If you are not educated about trading then even you have a lot of money to use for capital then you cannot make it and make money in trading because you will make a lot of mistakes that will lead for getting bankrupt.

Trading is really a fun way to do and I really think that it is cool and I am continually teaching myself to gain more knowledge and skills to have more winning trades over losing ones. Currently, I am straight do have some winning trades - thanks to patience - I was able to be very patient enough and now I get some winning trades Smiley
1274  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 28, 2017, 07:04:29 AM
I don't have any story to tell but based on my knowledge gambling most of the brings you loss instead profits. So as long as you avoid gambling then your safe.
Yeah me too. Gambling for me is not good to us. Because it dont gives any benefits but only a loss.  I didn't hear that anyone become rich because of gambling but i have just heared a lot of losses to them.
Yes and that's what makes me always think that gambling is wrong. And until now there's no reason for me that makes me think gambling is the right thing. For me gambling is just a waste of time and a waste of money.
- You're right, gambling just wasting our time and what we get from gambling is simply the loss. Many people say gambling for fun and this is entertainment but most of them just lie, they never realize they are always greedy and angry in gambling, they have no fun
- Gambling is wrong, I believe so because we imagine if gambling does not exist, we are no longer ours today. We can save more money, spend more time on useful activities, we will be more fun and not addicted to gambling.
The fact is that the fun that brings gambling, it is temporary and very soon brings only disappointment. I can not say that gambling is the same as earnings, because it's like a black hole that removes money and they disappear there.

It is true that gambling cannot be considered as a method to earn money. It is a risky game where you risk your money and it can go both ways which the player accepts. So if you are willing to take the risk then you can gamble but if you are not willing to then dont. Because gambling sites and casinos are the real profit-makers if you are not cunning and lucky at the same time you cannot make any profit off it.

There are really people that loves risks and some of them are very lucky enough to win in any gambling form - but this is not really true to all of us because majority will going to lose with the house because of the house edge advantage.
1275  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Criminality and Bitcoin on: August 28, 2017, 06:58:38 AM
I think bitcoin and crime are not related to each other .. not when bitcoin is not still crime. Offenders can take advantage of anything on the internet to commit their crime. I think bitcoin is a safe and smart system so it is not easy to be abused by criminals

With the anonymity of bitcoin, there is no wonder that criminals that discovers bitcoin will start using it for their illegal transactions. It is the same as with fiat where they can also find ways to use them for their illegal transactions.
1276  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: August 28, 2017, 06:54:15 AM
No. Gambling can make a profit in the long run only to their owner. If you are a player, you need to consider this only as entertainment, and not a permanent or temporary form of earnings.
That is the theory but even casinos cannot win every time, if a small casino loses a huge amount to a player then their finances may be compromised and if you add bad management to the equation that explain how casinos can go bankrupt in an industry in which gamblers basically give you money for free.

That does not happen much. There is the luck factor always working and the players are unlucky for sure. I agree that it does not mean that the casinos are super lucky but what they have at their disposal is the house edge and one cannot simply beat a game in which the odds are against them. What is possible is to stop gambling when you win a big amount and not gamble any more.

When you get lucky and win quite big already in a game of chance where it is purely based on luck, better stop right away and that is the time you can get away with the house edge advantage.
1277  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you manage ur emotions? on: August 28, 2017, 06:52:49 AM
You shoud start trading with small amount. Keep on doing and make a habit of experiencing loss to control your own emotions. If you start trading with a huge amount, you will most likely be discouraged or eventually stop trading when you experience loss.
That is a good way of getting rid of tensions of losses. But I have another way as well. Use different kind of strategies on lower level of trading. Try to invest that much amount of which you can afford the loss. And try to discuss it with someone trust worthy. Sharing will keep you relaxed. Try to be more social. And whenever you get any loss just let it go and be positive.
Train yourself as often as possible , so you will get used to it yeaaa.
You could directly uses a huge amount as long as you can afford to lose it.
Always take a break for a while after you get a nice profit or when you get a bad move.
Take a break if you are not doing well but if you are getting consistent profit then continue what you are doing.
It's very important to take a break when we are losing so we could analyze what are our mistakes and on a timely manner we will be able to adjust it to make it work again. Not all the time we make profit, that's part of the journey, therefore it's needed to adjust every time we lose.
In other words it is could be called as greedy when you doing good and continue it without plan.
Better to take a break in both situations , otherwise things could went worse.
That's based on my own personal experience which so far so helpful when i keep doing it.

If we have a plan, we can combat the FUD and other emotional and no reason betting or trading. Pre-planned trade and gambling is the key to get away with rage betting and trading because with a plan, no emotions are really much involved - unless you will become emotional on the process and don't follow your plan.
1278  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: August 28, 2017, 06:49:19 AM
Those type of skill based game are in Poker or any Card games around and also with sportsbook experience can make us win on that games, But we should rely on this since eventhough where skilled enough for this games but when bad luck hits we can still lose in this instance so better gamble in moderation.
There are a lot many games that enhance your skills if you keep on playing them on daily basis. But if you are having a bad luck or some kind of hard times, then those skills won’t make some difference in the result that is ultimately a loss. So, gambling being luck based should be played with present mindedness and one should not become overconfident.

if the game is like poker where the ones that have good playing strategies and stick to it, there is really potential to win more than lose. However, if the game has house edge advantage, then you should be very lucky in order to win many in the longer time.
1279  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: August 28, 2017, 06:46:07 AM
Yes BITCOIN can make banks disappear due to its advantages which is fast and almost effortless transaction. Banks (which runs in fiat money). But it will still take time for it to happen.

I don't think so that bitcoin can make banks disappear as majority of people depend on banks for their day to day transactions and have more faith in it as they feel its the best place to keep their money safe so even if more people start using bitcoins in future they will use banks too as you need fiat money for your expenses as you cannot use bitcoins everywhere.

You are right mate, banks is already established in our financial institution. And it takes quite long decades before people will slowly detach themselves from banks but to be honest, it is just not that possible - just for me though.
1280  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why some people prefer Bitcoin over fiat ? on: August 28, 2017, 06:32:27 AM
I don’t know about other people but I prefer bitcoin over fiat because of its power. I mean the power to increase value and decrease value with the latter being the main reason. Fiat money doesn’t increase value easily

Fiat money and bitcoin in so far as buying day to day transactions, fiat is better over bitcoin. But in terms of investment, bitcoin is superb nowadays. The reason is that the features of bitcoin is just so powerful that people are loving it.
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