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First they do have a cust serv number and I almost always get someone on the phone.
Also what country is the company registered in?
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i feel like we are going over 150 this time or soon, but i'm way more anxious about buying in at 140 than when we were at back in the 90s and contemplating whether we would hit 100 in July. I'd rather we just go back down to 110 before i buy again, but hopefully that will happen before too long and i loose my nerve and buy in above 140.
You had your chance to buy cheap coins when the price was artificially below 130 during the recent beartrap. Hm, what do you mean artificially? To me that implies manipulation. The only potential manipulation would be a cash whale wanting a lower price.. which isnt... really manipulation. After systematically pushing the price up for almost two months with well-placed periodic large buys accompanied by immediate bidwalls to prevent slippage, then after letting market inertia carry for a couple of days without intervention, using a couple of 5k-6k dumps to panic the price down by over $20, they spent a similar amount to return it to where it started, buying and hoarding an unknown amount of coins when the price was down below 130. Not manipulation? This whole market is a manipulation circlejerk. This is why outdated 19th-century/early-20th-century technical analysis is futile in the world of Bitcoin. It's time to think outside the box or get stuck in the tarpits like dinosaurs. I earned bitcoins daytrading back in March/April by anticipating dDOS attacks on MtGox. The smart money now is on anticipating whale manipulation. Of course the smart people don't publicize their predictions, or at least not precisely. What a dick He might be a dick but he's not wrong. I've been saying it for a long time, but I'll say it again. Tech analysis can work well in larger markets, but bitcoin is simply far too small for it to be of much use (I use it in some situations, but mostly stick to fundamentals). Noone is obliged to follow technical analysis But for those who want better results than buy and hold , they are invited to try the technical analysis for bitcoin. The bitcoinbullbear service has outperformed buy and hold by orders of magnitudes over 3 years consistently You must be extremely rich? It's not about me but about helping making our subscribers richer Ah yes, obviously. How did i miss that part. This is no joke. The customer is always the number one priority in our philosophy. Egoistic goals and business success comes thereafter. Ofcourse. Your mission in life is to make other people rich. Yourself you don't really care about getting rich. Eventhough it must be extremely easy for you. I absolutely don't doubt this. Your service is 100% free i assume. Otherwise your story wouldn't make much sense. You guys are a bunch of dickheads lol |
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The issue with btc is that the price is volatile, thus the utility of btc must surpass the costs associated with hedging against volatility
There are a limited number of applications were the anonymity and cross border functionality make use of btc a net positive, buying coffee, buying gas, grocery shopping or paying your rent is not among them.
gambling, remittances, bypassing intl wire and exchange fees, investment in the thing, buying herb online, avoiding merchant tx fees and not waiting a couple weeks to get your money from visa/mc
As an inflationary hedge it has a limited audience.
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seriously you guys think that a big time investor is gonna transfer boat loads of cash into MTGox ... all they have to do is contact asicminer or other asic outfits to get their hands on a ton of BTC.
The daily total of all block rewards is only 3600btc (approx, subject to adjustments). Also, any such purchases wouldn't appear on MtGox totals. Some person or organization has indeed been spending millions of dollars a week through July and August purchasing bitcoins and protecting their investments with bidwalls on MtGox. And how much btc did avalon, asicminer, bfl (I know scam...), etc rake in to produce? Those factories that produce those chips require cash in the 6 figures to produce... think about it... |
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awesome article, i was not aware of that book by Hayek
I probably was nodding off in my advisor's econ history class since he was a Hayek fan and likely mentioned it...
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seriously you guys think that a big time investor is gonna transfer boat loads of cash into MTGox ... all they have to do is contact asicminer or other asic outfits to get their hands on a ton of BTC. hey i could be wrong but with about 30k btc left under $200... yea ride the wave but be careful...  |
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It's an okay idea but you still need exchanges.
generally yes you can still have them, however this allows you to take your stock offline. also, i wonder if if there is a way to create a dual confirmation system, so that the stock p2p network only confirms a stock transaction once a bitcoin tx to a specified address has been confirmed by the btc network? |
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I've never put anyone on ignore, no matter how foolish or obnoxious they try to be. Foolishness and obnoxiousness have long been cornerstones of humor.  that and it is good to test ones assumptions with potentially countervailing opinions, even if they seem far fetched or the rantings of a mad man. on the other hand they can also show you that your thinking is not in line with that of a known fool |
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thanks, this is very interesting how they are separating shares from assets, I need to read more about it. i am however surprised that they have not expanded this to encompass virtual stock equity, which would seem like a natural fit |
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1. Mtgox insolvent in BTC having ~13kk USD in bids bought 7,5k BTC for withdrawals.
2. Mtgox insolvent in USD and some whale run away with 7,5k BTC.
3. Someone just want Jaroslaw to be sad.
4. All of the above |
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 wooohoo ride that whale baby |
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Like many people I have thought of the virtual companies who had recently in the last year or so created shares on centralized exchanges, and thought why were not these shares created using a peer-to-peer system like bitcoin? WHYRight now our weakest point are a few stock exchanges and/or manual tracking of shareholders- it posses a single point of failure, which can be easily brought down by any government. We already have an example a few weeks after this thread was initiated: News 23-09-13: BTC-TC a leading exchange has announced that they will shut down http://thegenesisblock.com/btc-trading-corp-shutters-operations-cites-regulatory-environment/
News 08-10-13:BitFunder No Longer Available to US entities https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=292384.msg3316080#msg3316080
WHATA system where people can transfer shares using the same technology we use to transfer virtual currency eliminates that issue. It also makes it easy for companies to track ownership, and for all crypto exchanges to implement a new stock so that we can trade it for BTC, LTC, etc. There are a few options available right now: colored coins, bitcoin or alt clones, ripple, Mastercoin as well as developments like bitshares and OT.
HOWThat's to be determined by the survey and research at this point. We want to keep it as simple as possible, at least in the beginning. Most likely in this type of system, the miners would only get paid tx fees for changes in ownership, and possibly distribution of shares of dividends. INTERESTED?
I would suggest the thread is used to evaluate the viability of these options. Then organize a test IPO to document the processes involved, test assumptions, document problems and deliver something that can be used by entrepreneurs to raise funds for their ventures without consuming their time in managing relationships with online exchanges, etc. Working Document: P2P Digital Debt & Stock Equity System Based on Bitcoin, this includes a link to Trello account
I have tried to separate out different efforts so that people from different backgrounds (technical/development, business/marketing, regulatory/legal) can contribute.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10YdUCKQ8MLOrjpxZtuQc6PhBVfThX6XU-stTOfGSOQE CURRENT STATUS: researching direction of technology effort. CONTACTS: jordan.dev https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=85784Prophetx https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=90917If you like your named added here PM me, or just start getting involved all the documents are open If you want to help promote: [size=11pt][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=292384.20][glow=yellow,12][b]Trade stocks and bonds P2P?! Get FREE CryptoEquity shares in our proof of concept :D [/b][/glow][/url][/size]
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Interesting BTC is dropping, while Peercoin is starting to gain volume on exchanges like Crypto-Trade.com just released trading PPC 2 days ago.
PPC is starting to make gains to catch up on BTC now. It will be the curreny Bitcoiners switch over in the event Bitcoin ever suffers a 51% attack since it's compatible with ASICs and uses the same hashing algorithm, I guess it's just a hedge for fear of 51% attack.
Great so we can use our asics to totally crush ppc and launch a 51 attack on it while it is still young. How fun would that be };-) |
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btce and stamp near parity are we approaching time to buy?
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interesting, perhaps someone can run a regression analysis on this
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This will not get the price high, anyway.
hmm I don't know, right now it's nearly $10 higher than yesterday. There's definitely some movement. But can we really attribute that to this ebay "news"? there is no ebay news. however i am selling a rare print on ebay and i do accept btc or ltc https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291572.0 |
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GF's get boring too, then nothing ever happens with them also.
True. Some can even get expensive over time. Maybe it's time for a replacement? BTW mine keeps asking "what is happening with the Bitcoins?" Nice I want such GF too! Any tips?  Make sure you have enough BTC  where is her picture :-) ?  |
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so you guys are using bitfinex without any issues? just wondering as i have had an account for a while and given issues at other places, i am wary of trying out other services
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