They reach to a respectable rank and then they offer their managing services to the community. If they are lucky, they get hired and then its their chance to do it in a very appropriate way so that they get hired again by someone else, and if they don't do it right, they end up getting no offers again.
To be honest, I think there are already enough trusted bounty/campaign managers right now that no one (knowing this fact) would hire someone new unless they are planning to scam the users.

I have missed that post of theymos, obviously. That is exactly what I want to be implemented, except that I want the restriction to be applied for Jr. members as well while theymos in that post have mentioned that their ban would be lifted once they reach Jr. member. I believe there are hundreds of Jr. members spamming the forum like hell these days, and that is what made me suggest this change.


We'll tackle that too, but let us tackle this one first, and then we will see what they come up with, and hopefully there will be a solution for that as well.


God, I know it isn't. But I just couldn't help it. He should not leave the forum to bleed only because a few positive users might get a negative effect from this. Those legitimate users would probably find their way to the other side, but this whole lot of spammers would die inside that circle, and that would probably bring some positive energy to the forum.

"should be restricted from posting outside the Bounties (Altcoins) section" is what I said. That means they can access the bounties board, but they cannot access any boards other than that if they wear a signature until they earn 10 Merits and reach Member rank.


I know, and I never said anything about ignoring them, but that doesn't mean we should put aside another noticeable issue only because there are other issues. We can think of solving them all, one by one. And I have just suggested something that can be implemented for a change.


Either remove their ability to wear signature, or restrict them from posting if they wear them before a certain rank, both of these will probably reduce the spam to a very large extent.


We cannot leave 96% of the accounts to do whatever they want only because 4% of them are legitimate and doesn't deserve that. Besides, such legitimate users should not have any problems earning 10 Merits to get their restrictions lifted. It is not that difficult if you are actually legitimate and not here only for bounty hunting and you know the basic rules of the forum and posting.


No deletion is required. The posts in history of an account are not counted for a signature campaign. So a signature campaign would not pay a user for first posting and then wearing the signature later on. The posts he made would most likely disappear and no one would see them, and the primary purpose of running a signature campaign is to promote the project, not just to make it visible on an account for a while.


Whether they earn 10 Merits and become Jr. member and then join signature campaigns, or earn 10 Merits to become Member and do that, it is all the same. And I think 50 Merits to reach Member rank is a lot to ask.



Restricting all ranks from wearing signature is also a good suggestion. If a user does not get at least 1 Merit from the last 30-50 posts he made, he should not be able to wear a signature. His signature should only be enabled again if he manages to earn 1 Merit, and then again if he doesn't earn 1 within that range, it should get disabled again.

The topic you posted discusses something totally different than what I've suggested here. And I do check the most recent posts all the time before I post something, and I have been doing that for quite a lot of time, and that is why I said If I have missed it, then please refer me to it, but what you are referring me to is not relevant to this.

My suggestion is to restrict users below Member rank from posting outside the Bounties sub-board if they are wearing signatures.

And what that topic suggests to is to restrict newbies from accessing Bounties sub-board if they don't earn at least one Merit, or only users above Jr. members could access Bounties sub-board and it should require at least 1 Merit to reach Jr. member.

How on earth do these two points seem similar to you?

Edit: None of the threads you referred have discussed the exact same point that I'm suggesting here.

Did you ask "I'm a new member. What should I do?" when you joined the forum? If you didn't, then it doesn't make any sense to ask this now. You have been posting useless things to reach 30 activities and become Jr. member, and probably because you have been visiting Bounties (Altcoins) sections and have noticed that there are some of them which accept Jr. members in signature campaigns as well. So that is exactly what you are going to do without any second thoughts, because if you were to care about the forum or the knowledge served in here, you wouldn't have been wandering in Off-topic section for all this time.

And, congratulations! You just successfully got one more post to get one more activity point towards your race of reaching 30 and then becoming a Jr. member. Keep going on this path and all you are gonna get is a negative trust for being a spammer.

That is not true. Some ICO tokens get to gain above 100% growth when they hit the market if they have a pretty strong base - which means if their project is attractive and their ICO has been actually successful but not faked, then they are likely to get a rise when they are listed in exchanges. So people buy the tokens in ICO phase to get profits when the token is listed in the markets and gets to a higher price than they bought them in.

Thank You.


Exactly. If you wear a signature and you are not a Member yet, you will not be able to post anything outside the Bounties (Altcoins) section. Now, no signature campaign would pay anyone for just posting in that section, even better, campaigns don't pay for posts in Bounty threads. So that can also be the end of a very large signature spamming army.


That is the point. These bots that are posting off-topic replies in every section these days only to get activity points and reach Jr. member would not be able to do it anymore. Even if they manage to reach Jr. member by posting in Bounties (Altcoins) section, that won't be of use as they would not be able to post outside if they join a Signature Campaign.

Let me know if this has already been suggested or discussed and I will lock the thread immediately.

We all know that a very large number of spam in every section of the forum comes from users below Member rank, and the reason for that is mainly because they are participating in Signature Campaigns and they need to reach the threshold offered by the campaign to get their payment.
To reduce that, I suggest that any user, below Member rank, should be restricted from posting outsite the Bounties (Altcoins) sections if they are wearing a signature. They can still post freely in any section they want if they are not wearing a signature on them.
This would not bother any user with a low rank but constructive thoughts as they can still share their opinions with the community without any problem, and if they want to join a signature campaign, they will have to earn at least 10 Merits to reach Member rank and then they can wear a signature and post constructively to get paid for it.

Let me know your thoughts on this.

I think people do visit that board quite often if not usually, but you can get your audience if the thing you start discussing is interesting.


Just a token? Or a project backed up by its own token like the most of them these days? I'm not that much knowledgeable about these stuff but I think people creating ERC20 tokens mostly do it with a project to attract real world investors for their token. And they get quite the attention if what their projects offers is unique and is a thing in demand for the public.

What is Service Discussion for? I thought it is the board for discussing new/old projects relating anyhow to Bitcoin. Can't someone use that board for discussing a new project idea with the community?


Exactly. Start with a moderated thread in the Service Discussion section and keep it the way you want it. Don't let it go anywhere outside the boundries of your idea.

Banning account trades in the forum might finish the deals happening in public, like in Auctions or Digital Goods sections, but they will start doing it in private like how they trade Merits right now, in Telegram groups or other places where the buyer contacts the seller and fix the deal and then picks up the supply from the forum.

No. It is not the system that needs improvements, but it is the posts that are being made and are getting no Merits require improvements.
And, we don't need more Merit sources to solve that problem, but we need more quality posters to reduce the quantity of such Meritless accounts.
It is not only the sources who can give Merits to a post, but any regular user carrying sMerits can do that if the post he is looking at deserves that. So it is pointless to complain about less Merit sources just because useless posters are not getting Merits.

Thank you for this. And I received the payment.
Cheers.

Me too, it is just that I couldn't help but have a look at his post history, and I find him having some issues himself which he needs to see first before offering help or suggestions to others. The biggest thing I noticed was that most of the times he quotes a lot of nested replies to just reply to the last one of them, which usually newbies do when they start posting. He, being a Hero member, should at least know that is not appropriate. Other than that, he seems to get into a lot of mega spam threads, mainly in Gambling section, which is what spammers do to increase their post count for signature campaigns.

So only because he is still connected to the power grid he has to pay taxes even if he is not using any of the power provided by the grid but in fact he is giving back more power to the grid. This is totally absurd!
It is just like a hotel where you stay, but you eat food from the outside. And, you still have to pay for the food that is served to everyone else three times a day.

That would only make sense if you are using Bitcoins for doing things, and the prices of those things aren't changing with the BTC/USD price chart which happens all the time as the prices of even the things being sold for Bitcoin depend on the BTC/USD price chart itself. But if you are not using Bitcoins but are converting them to fiat for using them, then you do need to worry about the price as you will get only a half of $6000 for selling a Bitcoin if it drops to $3000, and that makes a really big difference.
Other than that, if you are not gonna use your Bitcoins very soon, then of course you don't need to worry just yet.

I can do the front-end. I don't have any knowledge of back-end development yet, so I won't be doing any of that. I will only design your website from the front and any functionality to be added will have to be done by someone else.
Let me know if you are still looking for someone and we can discuss this further.
Regards.

No decentralized cryptocurrency can ever replace FIAT because of their volatility. Their worth keep changing in minutes, or seconds sometimes. And that would not be an ideal scenario for very big economical exchanges between countries. The value of goods bought using the currency can either go down or go up according to the movement of the currency used for it, and in case it is a cryptocurrency, it can either boost up the economy of the country or bring it down in a blink of an eye. So I don't think it would really work, as long as they (cryptocurrencies) keep changing values, which is their nature and unchangeable, I guess.

To be precise, it cannot be called a punishment, but it is more of a warning for others not to trust the person for anything in future. And that works, if people are careful when doing things involving money.


The trust system is for the users of this forum to be safe from frauds or scams as it represents the reputation of a user that is involved in something in this forum, or has an account in the forum but doing something bad outside it and is caught. A user cannot get back to doing something again in the forum with the same account if it is marked red, obviously. If they do it outside the forum, then it is your responsibility not to trust someone just like that.


Of course it is your responsibility if you deal with someone having negative trust and get scammed. When you see a board saying "Danger ahead" and you still go there, it is you who is responsible for what happens.


It is enough. Banning someone for only being untrustworthy is not how this forum works. So this generation or any upcoming generations will have to learn to understand warnings.


You should learn not to blindly trust anyone, no matter how good others say they are. Someone in the DT is not supposed to be an angel, or to be trusted with anything, because they are included in DT if someone already in DT gives them a positive trust rating, and that does not mean they cannot do wrong things, except from some of them.

It has been discussed before as well. Check the topic below.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4854032.0

You can find tons of these newly created accounts posting regular off-topic replies in almost every section in the forum, mainly Bitcoin Discussion.
Their motive is still non-understandable. They are not doing this in announcement threads so that we could think this is some Bumping Service in action. All they can get by doing this is activity points and negative trust ratings both of which are not going to benefit them in any way.
Maybe this is some kind of reactive instinct within the people who got hurt by the Merit system and now they want to annoy every last one of us that are on a brighter side or have different thinking perspectives from them.