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Author Topic: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.  (Read 89549 times)
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July 30, 2014, 06:34:15 PM
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I think anoni deserved to be #1, at least I used it and had no problems but I havent tried all posrt books so I can't say there arent any better than anonibet.
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July 30, 2014, 06:43:19 PM
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I think anoni deserved to be #1, at least I used it and had no problems but I havent tried all posrt books so I can't say there arent any better than anonibet.

Only Nitrogen deserve number spot for now, only that book who don't have much complaint except some downtime because of maintenance,
Peeps gave Anonibet top spot just only 1 reason because they are oldest book, and I don't understand why he is using this criteria, I am playing on sports book last  7-8 years but never saw this kind of stupid rating that book will be on top because they are oldest.

It can be one of the some criteria points but not only points to be rated top.

Peeps just show me one rating where only this rule applying for giving rating.

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July 30, 2014, 08:39:48 PM
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I think anoni deserved to be #1, at least I used it and had no problems but I havent tried all posrt books so I can't say there arent any better than anonibet.

Only Nitrogen deserve number spot for now, only that book who don't have much complaint except some downtime because of maintenance,
Peeps gave Anonibet top spot just only 1 reason because they are oldest book, and I don't understand why he is using this criteria, I am playing on sports book last  7-8 years but never saw this kind of stupid rating that book will be on top because they are oldest.

It can be one of the some criteria points but not only points to be rated top.

Peeps just show me one rating where only this rule applying for giving rating.
I wasn't the one that suggested putting a time table on ratings. Someone else suggested it and I thought it was a good idea after seeing some of what most thought were good books, such as Blockbet and Bit365 go under.

I do appreciate your input and that from others as this can always be changed.

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July 30, 2014, 08:50:45 PM
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Deadley- If you have been gambling 7 or 8 years then you know the percentage of books that have gone under without lasting a year. Most of them go under or are complete scams. This goes for fiat as well as bitcoin. Pinnacle, 5 Dimes and CRIS have been around a long time.

All of the other rating sites had some of their top books go under. It's better to be cautious. The credibility of the ratings is ruined when top books go under. "B-" and above are recommended.

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July 30, 2014, 08:55:41 PM
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Wow, wtf happened to this thread?
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July 30, 2014, 08:57:34 PM
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Is there a way to lock this thread or make it self moderated. I want to start a self moderated thread in which only books would be moderated.

Yes! I really think you should restart it as a moderated thread so visitors don't need to wade through literally tens of pages of posts from Directbet.
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July 30, 2014, 08:59:27 PM
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Deadley- If you have been gambling 7 or 8 years then you know the percentage of books that have gone under without lasting a year. Most of them go under or are complete scams. This goes for fiat as well as bitcoin. Pinnacle, 5 Dimes and CRIS have been around a long time.

All of the other rating sites had some of their top books go under. It's better to be cautious. The credibility of the ratings is ruined when top books go under. "B-" and above are recommended.

Peeps Place that is why I said time frame is one of the criteria for rate a book but not alone criteria for rate a book, then why anyone need to see your rating, they will just see which book is oldest book, they will gamble there.

Your rating need really update, or make some points to rate a book.

Then I don't think other people will have problem of your rating. They have problem because you made criteria like this because you want Anonibet will be on top.

Just make Some points Criteria and let's we all help to grow Bitcoin Sports Gambling.

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After making Points list if Anonibet will be on top, I will be the first to support you. But only with timeframe criteria I am sorry I can't support you.

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July 30, 2014, 09:42:42 PM
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Your rating need really update, or make some points to rate a book.

At the beginning, when this ratings thread started, there was a list of criteria that was used to determine the rating of each sportsbook. We were given a rating of B and Anonibet were the top rated sportsbook with a rating of A.

I went over the list of criteria, one by one, and proved that in each and every category we are as good or better than Anonibet. And so I asked Peeps why we are rated lower ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.msg6137493#msg6137493

Just a few hours later the ratings criteria have suddenly changed !!! now the only criteria used to determine the rating is the book opening date. This was done so that Anonibet can be the only Bitcoin Sportsbook with a rating of A and they were also granted the max possible rating of A, on top of all other books. Our rating on the other hand was reduced to C.

During the following days, there have been several reports here on Anonibet retroactively canceling bets, delaying withdrawals, limiting bet sizes and bet selections and various other negative feedback. Players were saying they will never bet there again, that they do not deserve to be the top rated, but their rating remains a firm A, on top of all other sportbooks, and Peeps ignored all comments.

As a result, we claimed that this ratings guide has turned into a disguised advertising vehicle for Anonibet.

We also proved that Peeps is getting paid by Anonibet to advertise and promote them in forums :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.msg6512771#msg6512771

Peeps then "punished" us for revealing this information and for refusing to pay him for advertisement by reducing our rating to D on www.PeepsPlace.com and he then started spreading false and negative information on DirectBet.

He was advising everyone not to bet at DirectBet, but at the same time, he kept betting there himself on a regular basis to a point where he earned VIP rewards, a bonus that is reserved to our most loyal clients :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.msg7776683#msg7776683

Recently, there have been more complaints on Anonibet. Among others, they were accused of cheating in their world cup contest and in their meme contest. Still, Peeps Place left their rating unchanged, on top of all other books, claiming that "there hasn't been enough posters speaking up to warrant it", despite the fact that the forum pages here are filled with such posts.

It is clear that the purpose of this thread is to promote Anonibet, BetcoinSports and Nitrogen, the books that are paying Peeps Place to promote them in forums, at the expense of all other books that are not paying Peeps. This is done by "rating" them on top of all others.

It's time to put a stop to this practice, where hustlers are asking Bitcoin Sportsbooks for payments in order to get a good review and rating, or else they get discredited in forums along with a reduced rating.

Peeps is in a conflict of interests as he is getting paid by some Bitcoin Sportbooks to advertise them on his website and promote them in forums and therefore he does not have the authority or creditability to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks.

If you want this thread to be a true discussion on books, remove the ratings. Otherwise, at the very least put a disclaimer in the opening post that this is a paid advertisement.

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July 30, 2014, 09:58:28 PM
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Your rating need really update, or make some points to rate a book.


It's time to put a stop to this practice, where hustlers are asking Bitcoin Sportsbooks for payments in order to get a good review and rating, or else they get discredited in forums along with a reduced rating.

Peeps is in a conflict of interests as he is getting paid by some Bitcoin Sportbooks to advertise them on his website and promote them in forums and therefore he does not have the authority or creditability to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks.

If you want this thread to be a true discussion on books, remove the ratings. Otherwise, at the very least put a disclaimer in the opening post that this is a paid advertisement.


DirectBet, I don't care if he is getting paid or not to promote books here or his other forum, if rating is fair then I am good to support.

But seems rating is not fair, I also saw so many complaint about Anonibet and many times try to talked Peops Place in here or Anoni thread.

I just said him clearly, his duties not to defend Anonibet, they will defend themselves. You just need to support your supporter who follow your ratings.

Best way just lock this thread, Make new moderated thread, Clearly write Criteria points on OP.
Sports Book will not be allow to write there. If some points need people review take votes from communities member above member level.

After that I don't think there will be any problem at all.

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I like to play on DirectBet but I know they still don't deserve top place but Anonibet also don't deserve after so many contest scam accusation with some clear proof.

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July 30, 2014, 10:19:50 PM
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Deadley- If you have been gambling 7 or 8 years then you know the percentage of books that have gone under without lasting a year. Most of them go under or are complete scams. This goes for fiat as well as bitcoin. Pinnacle, 5 Dimes and CRIS have been around a long time.

All of the other rating sites had some of their top books go under. It's better to be cautious. The credibility of the ratings is ruined when top books go under. "B-" and above are recommended.

Peeps Place that is why I said time frame is one of the criteria for rate a book but not alone criteria for rate a book, then why anyone need to see your rating, they will just see which book is oldest book, they will gamble there.

Your rating need really update, or make some points to rate a book.

Then I don't think other people will have problem of your rating. They have problem because you made criteria like this because you want Anonibet will be on top.

Just make Some points Criteria and let's we all help to grow Bitcoin Sports Gambling.

P.S.

After making Points list if Anonibet will be on top, I will be the first to support you. But only with timeframe criteria I am sorry I can't support you.
In two years it won't matter how long a book is in business. Right now these books have been in business longer than 1 year that I know of.

Anonibet
Nitrogen
Betcoinsports
Casinobitcoin
SBO
Bitbm

These are the books that went out prior to one year:

Blockbet
Coinbet
Bit365
StakeBTC
Bitcoinlivebets

This thread posted warnings for the books that went under. It's also valuable for the scams and problems. No one is going to agree on the ratings. We all look at different criteria. It's a loose guide.

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July 30, 2014, 10:20:32 PM
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Is there a way to lock this thread or make it self moderated. I want to start a self moderated thread in which only books would be moderated.

Yes! I really think you should restart it as a moderated thread so visitors don't need to wade through literally tens of pages of posts from Directbet.
Will do. Thanks. Is there a way to lock this thread?

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