Flat Earth

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Appearances vs. Facts

The phenomenon of the disappearance of a ship, hull first, as it recedes from view, is caused by the same law of foreshortening as that which governs the disappearance of the rail, or causes the two rails to appear to approach each other. If we should make calculations on the basis of the appearance instead of on the basis of the fact that the rails do not approach, but only seem to, we necessarily draw false conclusions. This is precisely what the astronomers do. They conclude from appearances rather than from facts.

As one focuses further out, one focuses on more light; hence, more “objects” occupy its “field of vision” and, therefor, increase the “object-density” thereof. However, “the disappearance of” (notbatman) occurs when light from a body that was, previously, in view reaches neither the cones nor the rods of the retina (e.g., for the obstruction thereof [i.e., of that light]).

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[Philipd]

read geometry and study the movement of the sun

[u9y42]

How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is?

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Slightly off-topic, as it sort of involves you trusting a third party, but Vsauce did a video about whether the Earth is flat, late last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNqNnUJVcVs (10m30s) - it's pretty good, and informative. Also, he included a large amount of links in the video description, where you can get additional information.

[BADecker]

How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is?

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Slightly off-topic, as it sort of involves you trusting a third party, but Vsauce did a video about whether the Earth is flat, late last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNqNnUJVcVs (10m30s) - it's pretty good, and informative. Also, he included a large amount of links in the video description, where you can get additional information.

Consider that when you view things as they move away from you, perhaps they are really NOT moving away from you. Perhaps what is happening is that you and the object are actually exchanging some form of energy that causes you to actually become larger, and the object become smaller with relation to you.

When you throw a ball at the object that has moved away from you, all that you are really doing is transferring a certain kind of energy between you, the object, and the ball. As the ball moves away from you, it loses size even though we interpret it as gaining distance. With relation to the object, the ball gains size, even though to the object, the ball seems to have lost distance.

With a few twists to the concept of warp theory (yes, like Star Trek, but the real thing that Einstein and others formulated), things might be that there is virtually no distance between us and anything else. Wormholes that connect things that seem to be distant, might simply be energy transference "equations" that change the size relationships between various objects. Wormholes might be around us all the time, numbering in the millions, depending on the variety and numbers of "places" that we individually observe or are otherwise aware of.

We interpret distance. We interpret how we change distance between ourselves and other things. We calculate the amount of energy that it takes to "move things across such distances." But maybe it is all a trick of the mind, designed by God or nature to maintain order in the universe. Maybe with a little bit of the right kind of quantum math and mechanics, combined with a little change in the way that we think about things, we might be able to move between the earth, and planets that revolve around other stars, with just as much ease as we walk across the street.

Perhaps the ancients tapped into this "state of mind." Perhaps the piling up of the blocks of the Great Pyramid was accomplished through mental control of "short distance" wormholes. Perhaps the movie, Jumper, is not that far off after all.

[Alex194]

Watch this video from vsauce: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNqNnUJVcVs

Really interesting

[notbatman]

In some variants of the flat Earth theory Antarctica is a ring that surrounds the continents. Beyond the Antarctic circle is said to be other "plane-ets", an infinite number of them.

Ponder the possibility while you watch this short video shot on location in Antarctica:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oorxKzNq5WE



I ask myself why is Antarctica guarded like it's Area 51? Why do governments who can't publicly agree on anything all manage to work together to make sure that your average Joe curiosity seeker and armature scientist doesn't start wondering around unescorted?

They send the gunboats if you get too close (so I've read)...

[GingerAle]

you can see the curvature of the earth very slightly of you go to the coast. Look out into the ocean.

[BADecker]

In some variants of the flat Earth theory Antarctica is a ring that surrounds the continents. Beyond the Antarctic circle is said to be other "plane-ets", an infinite number of them.

Ponder the possibility while you watch this short video shot on location in Antarctica:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oorxKzNq5WE



I ask myself why is Antarctica guarded like it's Area 51? Why do governments who can't publicly agree on anything all manage to work together to make sure that your average Joe curiosity seeker and armature scientist doesn't start wondering around unescorted?

They send the gunboats if you get too close (so I've read)...

Antarctica is important because it has land. We would use the Arctic, if there was land under the ice. What will we use it for?

The Van Allen radiation belts are filled with strong radiation. It is so strong that it easily kills any life that goes near it. That's the reason the United States had to fake all the Apollo moon stuff rather than sending men to the moon.

The Van Allen belts are concentrated away from the poles. Governments, especially the USA, are attempting (maybe they have done it) to really go into deep space through the "holes" in the Van Allen belts that exist at the poles. Antarctica land makes a solid base from which to launch.

[Gleb Gamow]

The Earth isn't flat, its hollow!

http://www.ourhollowearth.com/

This is the reason for global warming propaganda.

The global elitists are strongly pushing the idea of global warming because, if the North Pole ice is allowed to dissipate, we all can have access to the "big hole" at the North Pole, like Admiral Byrd found. Once we intermingle with the advanced races inside, we will learn their knowledge about how to free ourselves from global domination by the global elite. We are already starting with Bitcoin. Obviously, they don't want to lose control, so they are fighting in every way that they can think of.

The reason for chemtrails is, the global elite are spraying massive amounts of powdered aluminum into the atmosphere, to hopefully reflect some of the sun's heat, in an effort to keep the polar ice caps from melting. A couple of side advantages from the aluminum are in the Alzheimer's that develops, both to keep the population "dumb," and to help people die off early so that the world population decreases, at least in its rapid expansion rate.

You are going to die young from the chemtrails. You will never find out all the riches of wisdom and knowledge of the inhabitants of the inside of the earth, because the global elitists are killing you off with chemtrails, the same chemtrails they are using to keep the polar ice caps from melting any further.

 

"Okay, Google! Why are the elitists immune to the aluminum that's dumbing us down and killing the entire population of Earth at an earlier age?"

Google: I will get back to you on that question once I'm finished fucking Siri.

[bennybong]

I wasted a lot of time and energy on this forum a few years back:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/

I couldn't believe people were that ignorant and stupid about the facts. In the end I gave up, thinking that the whole 'society' MUST be a joke. Right?

[BADecker]

I wasted a lot of time and energy on this forum a few years back:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/

I couldn't believe people were that ignorant and stupid about the facts. In the end I gave up, thinking that the whole 'society' MUST be a joke. Right?

What counts is what works. If a person believes in a flat earth in some goofy way, and that allows him to make advances in life and living conditions, I say, go for it.

If "round" earth does it for you, go for it.

If the whole thing is an illusion, and that kind of thinking makes your world work better, go for it.

Just remember one basic thing. The cemeteries are full of folks who got it wrong.

[r1f696]

from what i learn in school, the simple way is sun rise and set, if you look a boat in the se who moved away, by the time that boat will dissapeared, when the earth flat, that boat still look whenever its far from you

[Philipd]

1. Launch a balloon with your own camera attached to it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAifzh7_-cg


2. Sail around the world on your own.

3. Become an astronaut.

...but the curve is going the wrong way in that video!



The options were flat or spherical, now you've gone and complicated things by offering evidence for a concave earth.

That's because of the lens.

[notbatman]

In the debate on whether the Earth is flat or a ball some experiments have been carried out with the results not satisfying either side. The buoy experiment where buoys in the middle are lower and the mineshaft plum experiment where the plums diverge. These experiments have lead some Earth theorists to postulate that we're on the inside of a concave Earth.

An alternative to a flat Earth or concave Earth that I haven't seen discussed is the possibility of a tube Earth; That we live on the inside of a giant tube with Suns placed at intervals along the tube. The Antarctic and Arctic being frozen barriers leading to other worlds full of dinosaurs, giants and UFOs.

[BADecker]

In the debate on whether the Earth is flat or a ball some experiments have been carried out with the results not satisfying either side. The buoy experiment where buoys in the middle are lower and the mineshaft plum experiment where the plums diverge. These experiments have lead some Earth theorists to postulate that we're on the inside of a concave Earth.

An alternative to a flat Earth or concave Earth that I haven't seen discussed is the possibility of a tube Earth; That we live on the inside of a giant tube with Suns placed at intervals along the tube. The Antarctic and Arctic being frozen barriers leading to other worlds full of dinosaurs, giants and UFOs.

Maybe the earth is a "D" shaped tube flat on one side, and roundish on the other, concave for those who live on the inside, and convex for those who live on the outside. Maybe it doesn't rotate either longitudinally or latitudinally. Maybe it rotates sort of inside out, with phase shifts in time.

 

[stevegreer]

How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is?

Go to a church, ask them what they believe.  The truth is usually the opposite.

So then by your logic the earth is flat. Every church I've been to knows the earth is a sphere. Your statement is so 16th century.

[L]

How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is?

You can repeat Eratosthenes calculations:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes#Measurement_of_the_Earth.27s_circumference

[notbatman]

How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is?

You can repeat Eratosthenes calculations:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes#Measurement_of_the_Earth.27s_circumference

Eratosthenes eh,

"chief librarian at the Library of Alexandria"

"Eratosthenes knew that at local noon on the summer solstice in the Ancient Egyptian city of Swenet (known in ancient Greek as Syene, and now as Aswan) on the Tropic of Cancer, the Sun would appear at the zenith, directly overhead. He knew this because he had been told that the shadow of someone looking down a deep well in Syene would block the reflection of the Sun at noon off the water at the bottom of the well. Using a gnomon, he measured the Sun's angle of elevation at noon on the solstice in Alexandria, and found it to be 1/50th of a circle (7°12') south of the zenith."

This is a gullibility test right? The only time the Sun appears directly overhead is at 12:45 PM.

[volatilebtc]

How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is?

This question has no relevance with practical world. Earth is shaped like an egg . I f you want to do any experiment , please choose UNIVERSE as subject and tell me how vast is it and whats outside ?

[notbatman]

How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is?

This question has no relevance with practical world. Earth is shaped like an egg . I f you want to do any experiment , please choose UNIVERSE as subject and tell me how vast is it and whats outside ?

If I want to take a trek across Antarctica then I think it's relevant to know if I'll be on the same planet when I get to the other side.  What proof do you have that Earth is shaped like an egg?  What if Earth is the centre of the universe and it's vast and the Sun (32 mile diameter according to some theories), stars and galaxies are small?