Flat Earth

[BADecker]

^^^ This is the third time an attempt has been made to strawman my argument regarding "angular size" with distance from the viewer to the Sun. The "Angular size" of an object is measured from the horizon vanishing point and correlates with an actual physical distance.

If you're going to argue my points with by changing subjects and putting words in my mouth i.e. strawman tactics then you should kill yourself. My proof still stands.

With regard to the horizon, there are two horizons to be considered when measuring distance. These are the exact opposite horizons from the location where one is standing. When both of these are used with each other to measure distance to the sun, the distance and angle is shown to be slightly different than between you and one of them... when you use the sextant.

If you consider the earth flat, the distances from where you are standing could be thousands of miles apart, rather than the measly few that people see regarding GE horizons... even with all the distorted perspective science that you use. This would make sun distance more accurately measurable on FE than on GE. But the distance would be far further away that you or the sextant suggest.

Using satellite or satellite/earth triangulation, or triangulation between the earth at different times of the year (with far away stars as the base for proper triangulation) blows the whole, current "theory" of FE entirely out of the water, so to speak. If the earth DOES happen to be flat, your current model is entirely wrong, or your entire model is based on a bunch of unknown and unproven science, or it is based on mysticism.

Don't kill yourself by sticking with all your faulty FE science as it dies.

[Vod]

Don't kill yourself by sticking with all your faulty FE science as it dies.

Kind of an odd comment - are you planning on killing yourself as all your creationist science dies?

[notbatman]

@Vod, how does it feel not being able to prove your claims and having to cry to authority and use intellectually dishonest argument tactics for every argument you make?

No idea.   You claim things.

I post what has been scientifically proven for a thousand years.

 

Nobody expects the inquisition, that's the beauty of it.

[Vod]

@Vod, how does it feel not being able to prove your claims and having to cry to authority and use intellectually dishonest argument tactics for every argument you make?

No idea.   You claim things.

I post what has been scientifically proven for a thousand years.

 

Nobody expects the inquisition, that's the beauty of it.

So until you get your inquisition against thousand year old facts ( ), admit you are not smarter than everyone who walks around you.  

Notaman - all you do is post comic book  frames and demand everyone believe in them.

All we ask is that you try simple experiments to prove what you are saying - and you can't.

 

[notbatman]

@Vod, how does it feel not being able to prove your claims and having to cry to authority and use intellectually dishonest argument tactics for every argument you make?

No idea.   You claim things.

I post what has been scientifically proven for a thousand years.

 

Nobody expects the inquisition, that's the beauty of it.

So until you get your inquisition against thousand year old facts ( ), admit you are not smarter than everyone who walks around you.  

Notaman - all you do is post comic book  frames and demand everyone believe in them.

All we ask is that you try simple experiments to prove what you are saying - and you can't.

 

Giordano Bruno wasn't burnt at the steak in 1600 because he went around telling the truth, he made provably false claims that the Earth was a globe and paid the price for his role in this massive conspiracy.

My proof the Earth is flat is empirical and it stands; the sextant measures angles on a plane and the Sun is 32 miles in diameter.

[sirazimuth]

Don't kill yourself by sticking with all your faulty FE science as it dies.

Kind of an odd comment - are you planning on killing yourself as all your creationist science dies?

The irony of the batty flat earther and a creationist in a pissing contest is amusing to say the least....

[presduterte]

Flat earth debunked.

[suchmoon]

Congrats on page 666.

The argument isn't about the distance to the Sun, that's calculated using trigonometry and another known distance such as that to a lighthouse. This is about the Sun's "angular size" relative to the horizon vanishing point (a visible object). It's directly measured at 32' with two readings, first you measure the angle between the bottom of the Sun and the horizon, then then the top and the difference is the angular size. One arc minute equals one nautical mile; the very definition of mile is one minute.

That's not how geometry works. Or is geometry also a giant conspiracy?

[BADecker]

@Vod, how does it feel not being able to prove your claims and having to cry to authority and use intellectually dishonest argument tactics for every argument you make?

No idea.   You claim things.

I post what has been scientifically proven for a thousand years.

 

Nobody expects the inquisition, that's the beauty of it.

So until you get your inquisition against thousand year old facts ( ), admit you are not smarter than everyone who walks around you.  

Notaman - all you do is post comic book  frames and demand everyone believe in them.

All we ask is that you try simple experiments to prove what you are saying - and you can't.

 

Giordano Bruno wasn't burnt at the steak in 1600 because he went around telling the truth, he made provably false claims that the Earth was a globe and paid the price for his role in this massive conspiracy.

My proof the Earth is flat is empirical and it stands; the sextant measures angles on a plane and the Sun is 32 miles in diameter.

LOL! He wasn't burned at the steak because of telling the truth. He was burned at the steak because people didn't want the steak to get burnt. They were hungry for steak.

 

[BADecker]

Congrats on page 666.

The argument isn't about the distance to the Sun, that's calculated using trigonometry and another known distance such as that to a lighthouse. This is about the Sun's "angular size" relative to the horizon vanishing point (a visible object). It's directly measured at 32' with two readings, first you measure the angle between the bottom of the Sun and the horizon, then then the top and the difference is the angular size. One arc minute equals one nautical mile; the very definition of mile is one minute.

That's not how geometry works. Or is geometry also a giant conspiracy?

Of course geometry is a big FE conspiracy. It works so well that all these FE people are getting a free ride in their respective funny farms.

 

[BADecker]

Don't kill yourself by sticking with all your faulty FE science as it dies.

Kind of an odd comment - are you planning on killing yourself as all your creationist science dies?

notbatman keeps on telling people to go kill themselves. So I thought I would essentially suggest to him to be careful to not commit suicide in his zeal.

I have the same wishes for you... that you would come out of your religion, into Bible religion, thereby keeping from killing yourself. At least notbatman might be a Christian, thereby saving himself amidst all his directives for others to kill themselves.

[exemplaar]

Bob Ballblaw after all this time still didn't learn anything...




Meanwhile, I found footage of vod...




and the rest of the crowd...

[Astargath]

If you think rocket launches are fake, show it. It should be easy if you think they just land after a while, show the landing. Easy peasy.

[yco]

Go to the sea and observe boats that are far away and getting closer. You will probably need binoculars. ... let us know what you came up with...

[notbatman]

Go to the sea and observe boats that are far away and getting closer. You will probably need binoculars. ... let us know what you came up with...

Who is "us"?

[af_newbie]

Go to the sea and observe boats that are far away and getting closer. You will probably need binoculars. ... let us know what you came up with...

Who is "us"?

People who are allowed to go beyond the walls of your mental institution.  

You know, the sane ones.  Or as you put it, brainwashed by the filthy Jews.

[notbatman]

Go to the sea and observe boats that are far away and getting closer. You will probably need binoculars. ... let us know what you came up with...

Why can some boats that are really far away be seen with binoculars but not with the naked eye?

You are told that boats sailing away disappear by going up, over and behind curved water three miles away yet when binoculars are used, you can see the boat that just sailed down behind the water. Are you a gullible idiot who believes bullshit or, are you a worthless sack of crap asking misleading questions to perpetrate a lie and a conspiracy?

Objects converge to a point with distance, this is the vanishing point i.e. boat gone bye-bye. The horizontal line that rises or lowers to eye level (the horizon) is an optical effect that occurs on a plane due to convergence. Perspective is the height or depth the viewer has on or below (submarine) the plane and it affects the distance to the horizon. There's atmosphere and its effects in addition to convergence and perspective, a narrow band mirage forms on top of the horizon line obscuring and mirroring objects, refraction changes the position of objects, compression squishes objects, magnification enlarges & crops objects, diffusion blurs objects.

The sextant measures angles on plane using the horizon and, distances can be calculated with trigonometry; one minute of arc is one mile. This is proof there is no curve that boats sail over, if the ocean curved the sextant would be useless for navigation and, we would all be forced to watch endless re-runs of Gilligan's Island after the Skipper plots his course. Neither the horizon or the water curves, ever!

[BADecker]

Go to the sea and observe boats that are far away and getting closer. You will probably need binoculars. ... let us know what you came up with...

Why can some boats that are really far away be seen with binoculars but not with the naked eye?

Some of them because there are things in the way, like trees, hills, mountains, other boats, the ocean, etc.

You are told that boats sailing away disappear by going up, over and behind curved water three miles away yet when binoculars are used, you can see the boat that just sailed down behind the water. Are you a gullible idiot who believes bullshit or, are you a worthless sack of crap asking misleading questions to perpetrate a lie and a conspiracy?

If you wait a little longer and look with the binoculars, you will find that the boats disappear past the point where they can can be seen even with a telescope. It's because they have passed the aberration point of the air above the water.

People are told by you, and they don't, generally, believe.

Objects converge to a point with distance, this is the vanishing point i.e. boat gone bye-bye. The horizontal line that rises or lowers to eye level (the horizon) is an optical effect that occurs on a plane due to convergence. Perspective is the height or depth the viewer has on or below (submarine) the plane and it affects the distance to the horizon. There's atmosphere and its effects in addition to convergence and perspective, a narrow band mirage forms on top of the horizon line obscuring and mirroring objects, refraction changes the position of objects, compression squishes objects, magnification enlarges & crops objects, diffusion blurs objects.

All of these things are limited, except the actual distance. Distance remains constant. Beyond a certain point, aberration and perspective don't play in, because of distance.

Get the biggest telescope in the world and point it at China. It isn't the aberration or smog that makes it so you can't see China. It's the ground in the way.

The sextant measures angles on plane using the horizon and, distances can be calculated with trigonometry; one minute of arc is one mile. This is proof there is no curve that boats sail over, if the ocean curved the sextant would be useless for navigation and, we would all be forced to watch endless re-runs of Gilligan's Island after the Skipper plots his course. Neither the horizon or the water curves, ever!

That's part of the reason why they have modern telescopes. The sextant isn't capable of handling great distances properly. Sure, it works fine to triangulate nearby locations. But for telling distances and sizes of faraway places, it just isn't accurate enough.

You still believe that Gilligan's Island was something that really happened, don't you?

[notbatman]

^^^ No, I'm saying it's something that will happen when the sextant, a tool used for measuring angles on a plane is used for plotting a course on a spherical surface.

[Astargath]

Go to the sea and observe boats that are far away and getting closer. You will probably need binoculars. ... let us know what you came up with...

Why can some boats that are really far away be seen with binoculars but not with the naked eye?

You are told that boats sailing away disappear by going up, over and behind curved water three miles away yet when binoculars are used, you can see the boat that just sailed down behind the water. Are you a gullible idiot who believes bullshit or, are you a worthless sack of crap asking misleading questions to perpetrate a lie and a conspiracy?

Objects converge to a point with distance, this is the vanishing point i.e. boat gone bye-bye. The horizontal line that rises or lowers to eye level (the horizon) is an optical effect that occurs on a plane due to convergence. Perspective is the height or depth the viewer has on or below (submarine) the plane and it affects the distance to the horizon. There's atmosphere and its effects in addition to convergence and perspective, a narrow band mirage forms on top of the horizon line obscuring and mirroring objects, refraction changes the position of objects, compression squishes objects, magnification enlarges & crops objects, diffusion blurs objects.

The sextant measures angles on plane using the horizon and, distances can be calculated with trigonometry; one minute of arc is one mile. This is proof there is no curve that boats sail over, if the ocean curved the sextant would be useless for navigation and, we would all be forced to watch endless re-runs of Gilligan's Island after the Skipper plots his course. Neither the horizon or the water curves, ever!

Already showed you quite clear videos of ships disappearing, BOTTOM FIRST. You don't seem to have good memory. Boats disappear into the distance, the problem is, why are they clearly disappearing bottom first? Even after all the possible ''effects'' or ''illusions''

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ObTd7DLMw

You can clearly see there is no effect in this video whatsoever It's literally a boat that has it's bottom half hidden by the curvature.