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April 13, 2015, 10:44:42 AM |
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You just did it in the same fucking line again!
"The verse you quoted says they have equal rights in husband-wife issue but men have higher decree than woman."
They have equal rights as couples but man have higher decree than woman. My English is not good enough to express what is in my mind. Is there anybody who understand what I am "really" saying and repharase it better to Lethn? Oh and great, yeah, forcing women to wait 3 months to divorce their husband and if they have a child they're supposed to tell everyone about it, gee wiz, that sound really tolerant and equal.
After divorcing or after death of husban, woman have to wait because if they marry another man at that time, the husband will become father of the child of previous husband. It is to solve this problem. Also, comparing religion to Bitcoin is bullshit, since Bitcoin is simply maths, I also can't fathom how you believe that anything in these books is 'open' to interpretation, it just shows that you're being dishonest and picking and choosing things you either agree with or disagree with to legitimise religion.
Comparing religion to Bitcoin? I didn't get you.
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April 13, 2015, 10:52:27 AM |
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I undertand. We(in general) both may not be able to convince each other.
Yes, a man can have a maximum of four wives. There are strict rules if one man marry more than one wife.
I will give you a simple answer for that. Milk four types of animals, say goat, cow, camel and donkey. Pour them in a pot/bucket/flask and mix them. Can you now identify which is from which? It is the same with having babies. If you have four husbands, it won't be easy to who is child's father? But this is not the case for a man.
What? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) How is that related to inequality in Islam where a man is allowed to have four wives at one time and woman are not? OMG so you meant if a women had four husband it won't be easy to tell who was the father of the child?? That's your argument for the in-equality?? This is absurd. (Oh and btw there is a thing called DNA test for that.)
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erikalui
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April 13, 2015, 10:52:55 AM |
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The men should rot in hell. These crimes are on an increase and any punishment seems less for them. I just pray that the girl lives.
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April 13, 2015, 10:57:34 AM |
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I undertand. We(in general) both may not be able to convince each other.
Yes, a man can have a maximum of four wives. There are strict rules if one man marry more than one wife.
I will give you a simple answer for that. Milk four types of animals, say goat, cow, camel and donkey. Pour them in a pot/bucket/flask and mix them. Can you now identify which is from which? It is the same with having babies. If you have four husbands, it won't be easy to who is child's father? But this is not the case for a man.
What? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) How is that related to inequality in Islam where a man is allowed to have four wives at one time and woman are not? LOL. I think he's comparing women and their babies to buckets of milk which you might get confused between them the more you have. He's just trying to bizarrely justify these things but the justification is coming from a place of complete ignorance.
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April 13, 2015, 10:58:13 AM |
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The men should rot in hell. These crimes are on an increase and any punishment seems less for them. I just pray that the girl lives.
Sad to tell you this.... but if she lives, she faces decades of humiliation and isolation. The girl is from the Yazidi community. And in those parts of the world, death is more preferable than getting raped. No one will marry a rape survivor, and most probably even the parents will disown her.
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Muhammed Zakir
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April 13, 2015, 10:58:56 AM |
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I undertand. We(in general) both may not be able to convince each other.
Yes, a man can have a maximum of four wives. There are strict rules if one man marry more than one wife.
I will give you a simple answer for that. Milk four types of animals, say goat, cow, camel and donkey. Pour them in a pot/bucket/flask and mix them. Can you now identify which is from which? It is the same with having babies. If you have four husbands, it won't be easy to who is child's father? But this is not the case for a man.
What? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) How is that related to inequality in Islam where a man is allowed to have four wives at one time and woman are not? When a woman is having sex with four husbands* in between very short time(some days), how can they know who was child's exact father? Now read what I said above. I hope noe you get it. * Not at a time. Edit: 311 answered. I know when we say, it is wrong and illogical. When others say, it is correct and logical.
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April 13, 2015, 10:59:11 AM |
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The men should rot in hell. These crimes are on an increase and any punishment seems less for them. I just pray that the girl lives.
I think the same, all the isis member should be 'judged' because they should pay for their action and after justiced (death penalty).
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GTO911
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April 13, 2015, 11:00:42 AM |
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There is a religion called sikhism, they have a book which they abide by, i have read it all and found no bullshit in it
Sikhs are having a long history of bloodshed and warfare, most of it against the Muslims. To their credit, they were the ones who stopped the complete Islamization of Punjab. To the best of my knowledge, they saved the hindus from forced conversion to islam
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April 13, 2015, 11:01:07 AM |
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I wouldn't expect any great arguments from someone who makes these sorts of statements: Somebody needs to drop an atom bomb on them
Whats the problem killing a lot of terrorists concentrated in a single place? Unfortunately there are plenty of non-terrorist people around them.
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April 13, 2015, 11:03:32 AM |
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There is a religion called sikhism, they have a book which they abide by, i have read it all and found no bullshit in it
Sikhs are having a long history of bloodshed and warfare, most of it against the Muslims. To their credit, they were the ones who stopped the complete Islamization of Punjab. To the best of my knowledge, they saved the hindus from forced conversion to islam We should blame ISIS not Islam (itself). Because I think you know they are not real muslims, and their abominable actions does not represent the real Islam.
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April 13, 2015, 11:04:04 AM |
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I undertand. We(in general) both may not be able to convince each other.
Yes, a man can have a maximum of four wives. There are strict rules if one man marry more than one wife.
I will give you a simple answer for that. Milk four types of animals, say goat, cow, camel and donkey. Pour them in a pot/bucket/flask and mix them. Can you now identify which is from which? It is the same with having babies. If you have four husbands, it won't be easy to who is child's father? But this is not the case for a man.
What? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) How is that related to inequality in Islam where a man is allowed to have four wives at one time and woman are not? When a woman is having sex with four husbands* in between very short time(some days), how can they know who was child's exact father? Now read what I said above. I hope noe you get it. * Not at a time. Edit: 311 answered. I know when we say, it is wrong and illogical. When others say, it is correct and logical. I did get it, read my edit above. But I still don't understand how is this an argument to the in-equality in Islam where men are given more power over women. Women's right should be the same, if a man is allowed to have 4 wives at the same time and fuck with them, than the women should also be allowed to have 4 husbands and fuck with all of them, if that is what they prefer.
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April 13, 2015, 11:05:09 AM |
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I undertand. We(in general) both may not be able to convince each other.
Yes, a man can have a maximum of four wives. There are strict rules if one man marry more than one wife.
I will give you a simple answer for that. Milk four types of animals, say goat, cow, camel and donkey. Pour them in a pot/bucket/flask and mix them. Can you now identify which is from which? It is the same with having babies. If you have four husbands, it won't be easy to who is child's father? But this is not the case for a man.
What? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) How is that related to inequality in Islam where a man is allowed to have four wives at one time and woman are not? When a woman is having sex with four husbands* in between very short time(some days), how can they know who was child's exact father? Now read what I said above. I hope noe you get it. * Not at a time. Edit: 311 answered. I know when we say, it is wrong and illogical. When others say, it is correct and logical. I did get it, read my edit above. But I still don't understand how is this an argument to the in-equality in Islam where men are given more power over women. Women's right should be the same, if a man is allowed to have 4 wives at the same time and fuck with them, than the women should also be allowed to have 4 husbands and fuck with all of them, if that is what they prefer. +1
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April 13, 2015, 11:06:21 AM |
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The men should rot in hell. These crimes are on an increase and any punishment seems less for them. I just pray that the girl lives.
Sad to tell you this.... but if she lives, she faces decades of humiliation and isolation. The girl is from the Yazidi community. And in those parts of the world, death is more preferable than getting raped. No one will marry a rape survivor, and most probably even the parents will disown her. Death is not a solution for the small girl. Just because the society will ill treat her, she should die? She does not even know what has happened to her and what the meaning of "rape." She has a whole life with her. I can understand that people prefer to die rather than live in such situations but if prayers do work, I will pray that she lives a peaceful life as she deserves it. Death is only for those who have committed a sin. I have known about rape victims who have managed to lead a peaceful life and leave behind those scars. The men should rot in hell. These crimes are on an increase and any punishment seems less for them. I just pray that the girl lives.
I think the same, all the isis member should be 'judged' because they should pay for their action and after justiced (death penalty). I want them to be physically tortured and then die a miserable death. This would teach a lesson to the others and they will shiver before thinking about committing such a crime.
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April 13, 2015, 11:11:19 AM |
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all religion contains this kind of bullshit,
No, all of them not Prove it then. All of them do except buddhism. It has some rules that i wouldn't agree with but the key is reaching the nirvana ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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April 13, 2015, 11:18:10 AM |
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Death is not a solution for the small girl. Just because the society will ill treat her, she should die? She does not even know what has happened to her and what the meaning of "rape." She has a whole life with her. I can understand that people prefer to die rather than live in such situations but if prayers do work, I will pray that she lives a peaceful life as she deserves it. Death is only for those who have committed a sin.
The only hope for her is a life in the Western world. If some EU nation or the United States grant her asylum status, then she might be able to live a peaceful life. If that does not happen, then I am pessimistic. Sikhs are having a long history of bloodshed and warfare, most of it against the Muslims. To their credit, they were the ones who stopped the complete Islamization of Punjab. To the best of my knowledge, they saved the hindus from forced conversion to islam That is a popular myth. Why convert to another religion when you have to save your original religion (Hinduism)? Sikhism evolved as an independent sect within the Hinduism. The divide between mainstream Hinduism and Sikhism was artificially created after the mid-20th century, to serve some vested interests. Earlier, Sikh gurudwaras used to contain sections for Hindu idols. These idols were removed, after radical anti-Hindu Sikhs succeeded in controlling the Akhal Takht. Originally, Sikhism was just a Hindu sect, just like the Swaminarayans (BAPS) or the Hare Krishna (ISKCON).
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April 13, 2015, 11:24:16 AM |
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.... The men should rot in hell. These crimes are on an increase and any punishment seems less for them. I just pray that the girl lives.
I think the same, all the isis member should be 'judged' because they should pay for their action and after justiced (death penalty). I want them to be physically tortured and then die a miserable death. This would teach a lesson to the others and they will shiver before thinking about committing such a crime. Yes this is also another valid option for them, they have not the right to 'live' after all those things that they did in those place and especially to those people.
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April 13, 2015, 11:55:13 AM |
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But I still don't understand how is this an argument to the in-equality in Islam where men are given more power over women.
Women's right should be the same, if a man is allowed to have 4 wives at the same time and fuck with them, than the women should also be allowed to have 4 husbands and fuck with all of them, if that is what they prefer.
Because there is no equality and men make the rules to suit their own perversions and desires. Men are jealous and possessive creatures and wouldn't be able to handle If a women was to have multiple partners and if they did they would call them sluts and shame them, but of course it's ok for men to do this because that's what they desire. Always double standards in religions.
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April 13, 2015, 12:23:57 PM |
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pretty sure mohammed fucked a 9 year old as well
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Be radical, have principles, be absolute, be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, don't accept what they call ‘the reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of ‘life', never abandon the principle of struggle.
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April 13, 2015, 12:26:04 PM |
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pretty sure mohammed fucked a 9 year old as well
Can you post the proofs?
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