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[BADecker]

Trumpism Will Need More Training If It Wants To Make America Great Again

From Tea Party members to coal miners to radio talk show hosts, the fix is in and America is as good as 'saved'… or so they think.

With what has been revealed about Trumpism thus far – much of which Americans really do want to hear – it will not save America nor make it great again.

Why? Because it fails to recognize the true enemy of our nation. The famous military strategist Sun Tsu, gave us ancient and timeless wisdom when he wrote, "Know your enemy and know yourself and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster."

Who is our thus-far unrecognized enemy? Is it a person, an organization or an ideology?

The rise of Technocracy in the world today is all three. Elitist perpetrators like John Podesta (Hillary's campaign manager and member of the Trilateral Commission), Peter Sutherland and George Soros are easily identifiable. The elite Trilateral Commission is certainly culpable with its forty year push to create a "New International Economic Order." The ideology of Technocracy (as seen in the UN's Agenda 21, Sustainable Development, Green Economy, etc.) can be clearly seen throughout the world.

Read more at https://www.technocracy.news/index.php/2016/07/22/trumpism-will-need-training-wants-make-america-great/.

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[Masha Sha]

Trumpism Will Need More Training If It Wants To Make America Great Again

From Tea Party members to coal miners to radio talk show hosts, the fix is in and America is as good as 'saved'… or so they think.

With what has been revealed about Trumpism thus far – much of which Americans really do want to hear – it will not save America nor make it great again.

Why? Because it fails to recognize the true enemy of our nation. The famous military strategist Sun Tsu, gave us ancient and timeless wisdom when he wrote, "Know your enemy and know yourself and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster."

Who is our thus-far unrecognized enemy? Is it a person, an organization or an ideology?

The rise of Technocracy in the world today is all three. Elitist perpetrators like John Podesta (Hillary's campaign manager and member of the Trilateral Commission), Peter Sutherland and George Soros are easily identifiable. The elite Trilateral Commission is certainly culpable with its forty year push to create a "New International Economic Order." The ideology of Technocracy (as seen in the UN's Agenda 21, Sustainable Development, Green Economy, etc.) can be clearly seen throughout the world.

Read more at https://www.technocracy.news/index.php/2016/07/22/trumpism-will-need-training-wants-make-america-great/.

One thing that all technocrats have in common is their love for luxury...

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Read more at https://www.technocracy.news/index.php/2016/07/22/trumpism-will-need-training-wants-make-america-great/.

Trump (if he is not a fraud) would do himself some big favors if he would start to really hammer on the importance of private property rights as a fundamental aspect of 'Americanism.'  I think this is historically and logically accurate.  It would let me know that he is clued in to the real enemy here which I think that Woods nailed.

The tough nut to crack here is that automation and the deprecation of human capital is a real thing that will not turn around.  The best strategy I can see would be to manage it though the tax code (just as we and many others have done with significant effect in other economic aspects over time.)  Philosophically this conflicts with 'free markets' which is lamentable, but everything is a compromise.  In a nutshell the idea would be to either employ people the 'old way' wherein employees benefit by being able to earn a subsistence, or taxes are raised on corporations who automate to support the displaced humans and thus lowered in other areas.  Corporations are still free(-ish) choose which way to go and it becomes kind of a win-win for society no matter which choice they make.

I myself am dubious that such a thing will work for very long because I am suspicious of who will end up with their hands on the controls.  I prefer the 'auto-pilot' mode of free markets, but absent a depopulation event I don't see it as a workable option.  I am also quite suspicious that there are a fraction of people in the Technocracy camp who would be fine with choosing genocide...or plebocide if that is a word.  It is, after all, the most efficient and expedient solution to the very real problems ahead and the Technocrats are all about efficiency.

[Spendulus]

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Read more at https://www.technocracy.news/index.php/2016/07/22/trumpism-will-need-training-wants-make-america-great/.

Trump (if he is not a fraud) would do himself some big favors if he would start to really hammer on the importance of private property rights as a fundamental aspect of 'Americanism.'  ....

I doubt if you will see him start opining on subject like this because he does not have what might be called the philosophical bent.  Doesn't mean that you and him do not totally agree on the subject, it's just a matter of where someone's thoughts are headed.  I have known people that fit this mold.

[tvbcof]

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Read more at https://www.technocracy.news/index.php/2016/07/22/trumpism-will-need-training-wants-make-america-great/.

Trump (if he is not a fraud) would do himself some big favors if he would start to really hammer on the importance of private property rights as a fundamental aspect of 'Americanism.'  ....

I doubt if you will see him start opining on subject like this because he does not have what might be called the philosophical bent.  Doesn't mean that you and him do not totally agree on the subject, it's just a matter of where someone's thoughts are headed.  I have known people that fit this mold.

In my analysis, I don't think that Trump has any problem thinking with a 'philosophical bent' on almost any level.  Where he and anyone would have a problem is translating it to a target audience.  I will say that his mastery of this is stunning and much better than my instincts.  He was also dead right and in a tiny minority (which did not include myself) who figured that he could succeed without certain support.  Especially fundy Christians and Zionists.

I don't feel comfortable that I personally understand Trump's true philosophies.  He doesn't really speak to my demographic segment although he does have surrogates who do and they are effective.  I'm not convinced that he and his surrogates are not masterfully chumping me.  The technology is such that it should have been possibly through analysis to see a the large pool that now forms Trump's support and implement a 'sleeper' to soak them (and me) up.  This remains a concern of mine and something I expend a lot of effort trying to figure out.

[BADecker]

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Read more at https://www.technocracy.news/index.php/2016/07/22/trumpism-will-need-training-wants-make-america-great/.

Trump (if he is not a fraud) would do himself some big favors if he would start to really hammer on the importance of private property rights as a fundamental aspect of 'Americanism.'  I think this is historically and logically accurate.  It would let me know that he is clued in to the real enemy here which I think that Woods nailed.

Private property.

Is your muscle your own private property? Is you brain power your own private property? If you make a deal with your employer to provide your private property for some of your employer's private property, does the private property of one or both of you suddenly become public property? How in the world did the IRS get in between the two of you?

Here's what happened. Some shrewd government people made some laws (IRS Code) that look like if you trade private property, the IRS gets a cut. The laws don't really say this, but they look like they do.

Then some ignorant-of-law employer sends a W-2 to the government saying that you made some kind of gross income. It is hearsay, but it is enough for the IRS to get their foot in the door.

Then the IRS accuses you of not paying your taxes. In the hearings and the trial, they shrewdly talk you into being within their jurisdiction. But most importantly, they talk you into stating that you made some IRS taxable income, simply because it looks like you did. But you didn't, because your name isn't found in the IRS Code anywhere. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1512214.0;all for understanding all kinds of things about this.

If Trump were honest, he would show the people how to 100% avoid income taxes. But he isn't honest. He is just as crooked as any of them. His crooked methods are simply different than those of others. He saw a potential mistake those others made, and he exploited it... ALL FOR PERSONAL GAIN. If it wasn't for personal gain, he would show everyone how to beat the IRS like Karl Lentz has.

[DooMAD]

Donald Trump says French and Germans to face 'extreme vetting' entering the US

The loon now wants to make it harder for people where any terrorist atrocities have been committed to gain entry to the US.  So rather than a blanket ban on any particular religious group (which was stupid enough), it's now targeting anyone who shares geographical borders with a terrorist attack.  He does realise the US itself has fallen victim to those, doesn't he?  Are Americans re-entering the country going to face additional vetting too?  Maybe he should expand that Mexican wall around the entire length of the US border while he's at it.

The billionaire originally sparked worldwide outrage in December when he proposed a "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States" in the wake of a terror attack in San Bernardino, California.

His suggestion was condemned as contrary to the US Constitution because it targeted an entire religion.

Mr Trump said he "cherished" the Constitution and had decided instead to focus on countries.

He said the measure was "an expansion" rather than a "rollback" of his original policy.

Mr Trump said: "People were so upset when I used the word Muslim. I'm OK with that, I'm talking territory instead of Muslim.

[Spendulus]

....make it harder for people where any terrorist atrocities have been committed to gain entry to the US....

Sounds good to me.

There's long been a 'watch list' of certain countries and the people from there got extra attention when they tried to get in the USA.

If say Germany has been inundated with people from those countries, Germany simply should get the same attention.

[bryant.coleman]

....make it harder for people where any terrorist atrocities have been committed to gain entry to the US....

Sounds good to me.

There's long been a 'watch list' of certain countries and the people from there got extra attention when they tried to get in the USA.

If say Germany has been inundated with people from those countries, Germany simply should get the same attention.

Agreed. Germany recently imported some 1.1 million people from Syria and Afghanistan. According to opinion polls, more than 20% of the population in these countries openly sympathize with the ISIS. That means at least 200,000 potential terrorists. Trump is absolutely correct. These people needs to be screened and vetted.

[Gronthaing]

....make it harder for people where any terrorist atrocities have been committed to gain entry to the US....

Sounds good to me.

There's long been a 'watch list' of certain countries and the people from there got extra attention when they tried to get in the USA.

If say Germany has been inundated with people from those countries, Germany simply should get the same attention.

Agreed. Germany recently imported some 1.1 million people from Syria and Afghanistan. According to opinion polls, more than 20% of the population in these countries openly sympathize with the ISIS. That means at least 200,000 potential terrorists. Trump is absolutely correct. These people needs to be screened and vetted.

Have a link to those polls? And isn't it a jump to go from sympathize to potential terrorist? What was the reason given for sympathizing with isis? Wouldn't surprise me if some did to an extent in syria for example because of their fighting against assad. Or for perceiving them not to be as corrupt. Etc. Sympathizing is not the same as agree with and want to join isis. But I would go further than trump's plan. Build a big wall all around america. Don't let anyone in. The rest of the world won't let anyone out.

[BADecker]

....make it harder for people where any terrorist atrocities have been committed to gain entry to the US....

Sounds good to me.

There's long been a 'watch list' of certain countries and the people from there got extra attention when they tried to get in the USA.

If say Germany has been inundated with people from those countries, Germany simply should get the same attention.

Agreed. Germany recently imported some 1.1 million people from Syria and Afghanistan. According to opinion polls, more than 20% of the population in these countries openly sympathize with the ISIS. That means at least 200,000 potential terrorists. Trump is absolutely correct. These people needs to be screened and vetted.

Have a link to those polls? And isn't it a jump to go from sympathize to potential terrorist? What was the reason given for sympathizing with isis? Wouldn't surprise me if some did to an extent in syria for example because of their fighting against assad. Or for perceiving them not to be as corrupt. Etc. Sympathizing is not the same as agree with and want to join isis. But I would go further than trump's plan. Build a big wall all around america. Don't let anyone in. The rest of the world won't let anyone out.

The problem with the wall is this.

First, not letting anyone in or out is unconstitutional regarding freedom. Second, it is against common law of the people in general... common law, the thing that is over and above the Constitution. Third, it will not work, because airplanes and missiles easily go over the wall, and tunneling can go under.

Bankers like the idea of the wall. Why? Because it will take a lot of work to build a big enough wall. Workers need to get paid. Payment comes to them through government borrowing the money to pay them. The bigger the wall the better... so that the banking Ponzi is strengthened by the creations of more new money in the form of loans to have the wall built.

Remember, the wall might be for you in some ways, but it is against you in more ways, especially as the bankers take up ownership of the planet through their Ponzi.

[BADecker]

Report: Mexico Wants To Build Trump's Wall To Stop Illegal Immigration

There is one small caveat, however. Mexicans don't want to build the wall on the U.S.-Mexico border, but rather, they want to stem the tide of immigration into their own country  by building the wall on their southern border with central America:

One of the largest newspapers along Mexico's border with Texas is calling for a border wall with Central America, similar to the one being promoted by Republican Presidential Candidate Donald J. Trump.

The editorial board of El Mañana, one of the largest newspapers in the border state of Tamaulipas,  penned a piece called "Yes to the Border Wall … but in Mexico's South." The piece praises the idea of border wall, not on the border with Mexico, but on the border with Central America.

Read more at http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/report-mexico-wants-to-build-trumps-wall-to-stop-illegal-immigration_07252016.

[Spendulus]

....Sympathizing is not the same as agree with and want to join isis. ...

Close enough for me.

[BADecker]

Vietnam Vet Shot For Being a Trump Supporter

A political discussion at a bar in Cleveland ended with a Vietnam vet being shot in the leg because of his support for Donald Trump.

60-year-old Paul Jones, Jr. was having a conversation with a friend at Winston's Place near E. 131st Street and Miles Avenue on Monday evening.

A man sitting nearby overheard the chat and immediately became aggressive.

"He butted in the conversation," Jones told WEWS from his hospital bed. "The conversation wasn't directed at him or to him."

The man continued to get more irate, going to his car to retrieve a gun before he returned and shot Jones in the thigh.

The shooter fled the scene and detectives are still searching for him.

"I'm quite sure you have a lot of people having their own opinions. But that doesn't mean you should hurt somebody because you have your own opinion," said Jones' mother Latosca.

The mainstream media has attempted to portray Donald Trump supporters as aggressive and violent for months, despite almost all the violence being directed against Trump supporters.

Just yesterday, footage emerged of a man attempting to sick a DNC protest crowd on a woman because she said she supported Donald Trump.

Read more at http://www.dcclothesline.com/2016/07/28/vietnam-vet-shot-for-being-a-trump-supporter/.

[Spendulus]

...isn't it a jump to go from sympathize to potential terrorist? What was the reason given for sympathizing with isis? Wouldn't surprise me if some did to an extent in syria for example because of their fighting against assad. Or for perceiving them not to be as corrupt. Etc. Sympathizing is not the same as agree with and want to join isis. ....

Sympathizing is enough to stamp their application "NO."

Next problem (this one is done.)

[DangerousSausage]

Wen Eastern Europe want Donald Trump because Obama and that girl which want be president was just work for big companies and make damage to Europe and also for USA because they are destroying own pupils and work for rifh pupils.

[Elwar]

What will be necessary to please the Donald once he is in charge of the world? How will one be able to gain favor so as not to be sent to the camps?

[BADecker]

^^^ Not to worry. Trump can't do most of what he is proposing. The people won't let him once they figure out what it really means.

The best benefit that Trump would be giving us is, he is making the one-worlders to have to switch their strategy. If Trump gets in, they will have to change things enough that it could set their plans back a couple of decades, and give us a little bit of a breather before they take over.

In the end, Trump will be a benefit, not by the stuff that he does, but by upsetting the one-worlder apple cart, so to speak.

[maku]

You have deal with the fact that Trump will be next POTUS. Chuck Norris officially backed him up.
With Chuck as his official supporter it is only a matter of time until President Trump will execute his masterplan.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/07/25/chuck-norris-writes-op-ed-supporting-donald-trump

[RoomBot]

^^^ Not to worry. Trump can't do most of what he is proposing. The people won't let him once they figure out what it really means.

The best benefit that Trump would be giving us is, he is making the one-worlders to have to switch their strategy. If Trump gets in, they will have to change things enough that it could set their plans back a couple of decades, and give us a little bit of a breather before they take over.

In the end, Trump will be a benefit, not by the stuff that he does, but by upsetting the one-worlder apple cart, so to speak.

I am so with you on this.  It has already leaked that Shillary will pass the TPP.

Globalist B*tch.